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Hi all,
I just recently upgraded a number of PCs from OL2003 (connecting to Exchange - not cached mode) to Outlook 2007 w/ Business Contact Manager (oviously cached mode as this is required). The BCM database is on a shared PC using the BCM database tool. I had experimented with one PC taking it off the cached mode and it had made things speedy again, but I can't keep it like that due to the need for BCM. Any clue what is going on here? Is it cached mode or BCM causing the issue? The speed issues range from starting an email reply and having to wait for what you type to catch up, to slow response if you click on another folder in your mailbox. It's just hurting the Outlook 2007 experience because performance is horrible. Please help! Thanks, Mike |
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We are experiencing the same thing. We are using a shared database on the
server, set up with the BCM database tool. It always happens when you are typing in an email, it will freeze for anywhere from 30 secs to a few minutes. This may or not be related: none of our computers have been able to install the service pack 2 for MS SQL Server 2005 Express edition. Fails every time, the error codes are different every time, and none of them link to a helpful answer on the MS website. All other updates are current, including SP3 for xp, we are not on vista. I hope someone from MS is reading this, we will be forced to dump BCM if this cannot be fixed very shortly, Outlook is nearly unusable now. "Mike" wrote: Hi all, I just recently upgraded a number of PCs from OL2003 (connecting to Exchange - not cached mode) to Outlook 2007 w/ Business Contact Manager (oviously cached mode as this is required). The BCM database is on a shared PC using the BCM database tool. I had experimented with one PC taking it off the cached mode and it had made things speedy again, but I can't keep it like that due to the need for BCM. Any clue what is going on here? Is it cached mode or BCM causing the issue? The speed issues range from starting an email reply and having to wait for what you type to catch up, to slow response if you click on another folder in your mailbox. It's just hurting the Outlook 2007 experience because performance is horrible. Please help! Thanks, Mike |
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On Jun 11, 3:21*pm, sdurman wrote:
We are experiencing the same thing. We are using a shared database on the server, set up with the BCM database tool. It always happens when you are typing in an email, it will freeze for anywhere from 30 secs to a few minutes. This may or not be related: none of our computers have been able to install the service pack 2 for MS SQL Server 2005 Express edition. Fails every time, the error codes are different every time, and none of them link to a helpful answer on the MS website. All other updates are current, including SP3 for xp, we are not on vista. I hope someone from MS is reading this, we will be forced to dump BCM if this cannot be fixed very shortly, Outlook is nearly unusable now. "Mike" wrote: Hi all, I just recently upgraded a number of PCs from OL2003 (connecting to Exchange - not cached mode) to Outlook 2007 w/ Business Contact Manager (oviously cached mode as this is required). The BCM database is on a shared PC using the BCM database tool. I had experimented with one PC taking it off the cached mode and it had made things speedy again, but I can't keep it like that due to the need for BCM. Any clue what is going on here? *Is it cached mode or BCM causing the issue? The speed issues range from starting an email reply and having to wait for what you type to catch up, to slow response if you click on another folder in your mailbox. *It's just hurting the Outlook 2007 experience because performance is horrible. *Please help! Thanks, Mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have a machine with Outlook/Exchange, but no BCM, that experiences similar slow downs with the connection to Exchange cache mode. I notice similar slowdowns when I open or start editing Tasks and Calendar. Does having BCM in the profile make the slowness when editing emails even slower? |
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Same problem. It is definitely a problem between the cached copy of BCM and
the server copy. Our Outlook / Exchange combination works well with cached mode and will even work over GPRS connections. BCM is a different matter. O work at home over an ADSL connection a lot of the time. If I have BCM off-line then performance of Outlook is fine - but I cannot manage some critical activities such as email auto-linking. If I am on-line then BCM exchanges approximately 100Mbytes of data with the server every hour! Needles to say everything grinds to a halt and I experience the freezes referred to above. THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED "Luther" wrote: On Jun 11, 3:21 pm, sdurman wrote: We are experiencing the same thing. We are using a shared database on the server, set up with the BCM database tool. It always happens when you are typing in an email, it will freeze for anywhere from 30 secs to a few minutes. This may or not be related: none of our computers have been able to install the service pack 2 for MS SQL Server 2005 Express edition. Fails every time, the error codes are different every time, and none of them link to a helpful answer on the MS website. All other updates are current, including SP3 for xp, we are not on vista. I hope someone from MS is reading this, we will be forced to dump BCM if this cannot be fixed very shortly, Outlook is nearly unusable now. "Mike" wrote: Hi all, I just recently upgraded a number of PCs from OL2003 (connecting to Exchange - not cached mode) to Outlook 2007 w/ Business Contact Manager (oviously cached mode as this is required). The BCM database is on a shared PC using the BCM database tool. I had experimented with one PC taking it off the cached mode and it had made things speedy again, but I can't keep it like that due to the need for BCM. Any clue what is going on here? Is it cached mode or BCM causing the issue? The speed issues range from starting an email reply and having to wait for what you type to catch up, to slow response if you click on another folder in your mailbox. It's just hurting the Outlook 2007 experience because performance is horrible. Please help! Thanks, Mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have a machine with Outlook/Exchange, but no BCM, that experiences similar slow downs with the connection to Exchange cache mode. I notice similar slowdowns when I open or start editing Tasks and Calendar. Does having BCM in the profile make the slowness when editing emails even slower? |
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On Jun 20, 3:07*pm, dmailer wrote:
Same problem. *It is definitely a problem between the cached copy of BCM and the server copy. *Our Outlook / Exchange combination works well with cached mode and will even work over GPRS connections. *BCM is a different matter. *O work at home over an ADSL connection a lot of the time. *If I have BCM off-line then performance of Outlook is fine - but I cannot manage some critical activities such as email auto-linking. *If I am on-line then BCM exchanges approximately 100Mbytes of data with the server every hour! * Needles to say everything grinds to a halt and I experience the freezes referred to above. * THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED "Luther" wrote: On Jun 11, 3:21 pm, sdurman wrote: We are experiencing the same thing. We are using a shared database on the server, set up with the BCM database tool. It always happens when you are typing in an email, it will freeze for anywhere from 30 secs to a few minutes. This may or not be related: none of our computers have been able to install the service pack 2 for MS SQL Server 2005 Express edition. Fails every time, the error codes are different every time, and none of them link to a helpful answer on the MS website. All other updates are current, including SP3 for xp, we are not on vista. I hope someone from MS is reading this, we will be forced to dump BCM if this cannot be fixed very shortly, Outlook is nearly unusable now. "Mike" wrote: Hi all, I just recently upgraded a number of PCs from OL2003 (connecting to Exchange - not cached mode) to Outlook 2007 w/ Business Contact Manager (oviously cached mode as this is required). The BCM database is on a shared PC using the BCM database tool. I had experimented with one PC taking it off the cached mode and it had made things speedy again, but I can't keep it like that due to the need for BCM. Any clue what is going on here? *Is it cached mode or BCM causing the issue? The speed issues range from starting an email reply and having to wait for what you type to catch up, to slow response if you click on another folder in your mailbox. *It's just hurting the Outlook 2007 experience because performance is horrible. *Please help! Thanks, Mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have a machine with Outlook/Exchange, but no BCM, that experiences similar slow downs with the connection to Exchange cache mode. I notice similar slowdowns when I open or start editing Tasks and Calendar. Does having BCM in the profile make the slowness when editing emails even slower?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BCM is designed to be responsive to changes on shared databases, so that if one user changes an item, the other machines refresh themselves--fetch data from the database. That works well on a LAN with a server that responds immediately. If you have high network latency, then you could consider using an offline database and manually syncing with the shared databases when required. |
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Working off-line is all very well but there are a couple of serious
deficiencies in BCM that make this prblematic. 1. When creating a new user it is not possible to set email auto-link whilst off-line. I need BCM to set email-autolink for all users at all times so that we do not lose any history. 2. We often get emails sent to two or more users at once. If working off-line we do not knowe whether the other user has created a contact. So we end up with multiple contacts. BCM does not seem to offer any tools to find and consolidate multiple instances of ther same contact. "Luther" wrote: On Jun 20, 3:07 pm, dmailer wrote: Same problem. It is definitely a problem between the cached copy of BCM and the server copy. Our Outlook / Exchange combination works well with cached mode and will even work over GPRS connections. BCM is a different matter. O work at home over an ADSL connection a lot of the time. If I have BCM off-line then performance of Outlook is fine - but I cannot manage some critical activities such as email auto-linking. If I am on-line then BCM exchanges approximately 100Mbytes of data with the server every hour! Needles to say everything grinds to a halt and I experience the freezes referred to above. THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED "Luther" wrote: On Jun 11, 3:21 pm, sdurman wrote: We are experiencing the same thing. We are using a shared database on the server, set up with the BCM database tool. It always happens when you are typing in an email, it will freeze for anywhere from 30 secs to a few minutes. This may or not be related: none of our computers have been able to install the service pack 2 for MS SQL Server 2005 Express edition. Fails every time, the error codes are different every time, and none of them link to a helpful answer on the MS website. All other updates are current, including SP3 for xp, we are not on vista. I hope someone from MS is reading this, we will be forced to dump BCM if this cannot be fixed very shortly, Outlook is nearly unusable now. "Mike" wrote: Hi all, I just recently upgraded a number of PCs from OL2003 (connecting to Exchange - not cached mode) to Outlook 2007 w/ Business Contact Manager (oviously cached mode as this is required). The BCM database is on a shared PC using the BCM database tool. I had experimented with one PC taking it off the cached mode and it had made things speedy again, but I can't keep it like that due to the need for BCM. Any clue what is going on here? Is it cached mode or BCM causing the issue? The speed issues range from starting an email reply and having to wait for what you type to catch up, to slow response if you click on another folder in your mailbox. It's just hurting the Outlook 2007 experience because performance is horrible. Please help! Thanks, Mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have a machine with Outlook/Exchange, but no BCM, that experiences similar slow downs with the connection to Exchange cache mode. I notice similar slowdowns when I open or start editing Tasks and Calendar. Does having BCM in the profile make the slowness when editing emails even slower?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BCM is designed to be responsive to changes on shared databases, so that if one user changes an item, the other machines refresh themselves--fetch data from the database. That works well on a LAN with a server that responds immediately. If you have high network latency, then you could consider using an offline database and manually syncing with the shared databases when required. |
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Luther, I disagree. BCM is not responsive on our gigabit LAN. The symptoms
described by the other users in this thread match ours precisely. Even when working locally, connected at gigabit speeds, our BCM is TERRIBLY slow! The entire BCM database slows outlook down to a crawl. It just took me about 20 minutes to compose a fairly simple e-mail that should have taken me 3-5 minutes. However, ever few words that I type, outlook stops responding and I have to sit and wait. If I click anywhere else in my desktop, it loses all of the typed words that occurred after outlook froze. So I am forced to sit here and wait or try to catch it when it's unfrozen. sqlserver is approximately 380MB, and is running my CPU at a very consistent 44-50% at all times. In other versions of SQL, you can throttle the memory useage but in this version of mysql, you can't. How could Microsoft have released this product with such terrible performance?! "dmailer" wrote: Working off-line is all very well but there are a couple of serious deficiencies in BCM that make this prblematic. 1. When creating a new user it is not possible to set email auto-link whilst off-line. I need BCM to set email-autolink for all users at all times so that we do not lose any history. 2. We often get emails sent to two or more users at once. If working off-line we do not knowe whether the other user has created a contact. So we end up with multiple contacts. BCM does not seem to offer any tools to find and consolidate multiple instances of ther same contact. "Luther" wrote: On Jun 20, 3:07 pm, dmailer wrote: Same problem. It is definitely a problem between the cached copy of BCM and the server copy. Our Outlook / Exchange combination works well with cached mode and will even work over GPRS connections. BCM is a different matter. O work at home over an ADSL connection a lot of the time. If I have BCM off-line then performance of Outlook is fine - but I cannot manage some critical activities such as email auto-linking. If I am on-line then BCM exchanges approximately 100Mbytes of data with the server every hour! Needles to say everything grinds to a halt and I experience the freezes referred to above. THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED "Luther" wrote: On Jun 11, 3:21 pm, sdurman wrote: We are experiencing the same thing. We are using a shared database on the server, set up with the BCM database tool. It always happens when you are typing in an email, it will freeze for anywhere from 30 secs to a few minutes. This may or not be related: none of our computers have been able to install the service pack 2 for MS SQL Server 2005 Express edition. Fails every time, the error codes are different every time, and none of them link to a helpful answer on the MS website. All other updates are current, including SP3 for xp, we are not on vista. I hope someone from MS is reading this, we will be forced to dump BCM if this cannot be fixed very shortly, Outlook is nearly unusable now. "Mike" wrote: Hi all, I just recently upgraded a number of PCs from OL2003 (connecting to Exchange - not cached mode) to Outlook 2007 w/ Business Contact Manager (oviously cached mode as this is required). The BCM database is on a shared PC using the BCM database tool. I had experimented with one PC taking it off the cached mode and it had made things speedy again, but I can't keep it like that due to the need for BCM. Any clue what is going on here? Is it cached mode or BCM causing the issue? The speed issues range from starting an email reply and having to wait for what you type to catch up, to slow response if you click on another folder in your mailbox. It's just hurting the Outlook 2007 experience because performance is horrible. Please help! Thanks, Mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have a machine with Outlook/Exchange, but no BCM, that experiences similar slow downs with the connection to Exchange cache mode. I notice similar slowdowns when I open or start editing Tasks and Calendar. Does having BCM in the profile make the slowness when editing emails even slower?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BCM is designed to be responsive to changes on shared databases, so that if one user changes an item, the other machines refresh themselves--fetch data from the database. That works well on a LAN with a server that responds immediately. If you have high network latency, then you could consider using an offline database and manually syncing with the shared databases when required. |
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I and my 20 users are having the same problem. We just "Upgraded" to Outlook
2007 with BCM and solved the problem of the "...Outlook has encountered a problem and must close" issue but now have the latency issue. "Luther" wrote: On Jun 20, 3:07 pm, dmailer wrote: Same problem. It is definitely a problem between the cached copy of BCM and the server copy. Our Outlook / Exchange combination works well with cached mode and will even work over GPRS connections. BCM is a different matter. O work at home over an ADSL connection a lot of the time. If I have BCM off-line then performance of Outlook is fine - but I cannot manage some critical activities such as email auto-linking. If I am on-line then BCM exchanges approximately 100Mbytes of data with the server every hour! Needles to say everything grinds to a halt and I experience the freezes referred to above. THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED "Luther" wrote: On Jun 11, 3:21 pm, sdurman wrote: We are experiencing the same thing. We are using a shared database on the server, set up with the BCM database tool. It always happens when you are typing in an email, it will freeze for anywhere from 30 secs to a few minutes. This may or not be related: none of our computers have been able to install the service pack 2 for MS SQL Server 2005 Express edition. Fails every time, the error codes are different every time, and none of them link to a helpful answer on the MS website. All other updates are current, including SP3 for xp, we are not on vista. I hope someone from MS is reading this, we will be forced to dump BCM if this cannot be fixed very shortly, Outlook is nearly unusable now. "Mike" wrote: Hi all, I just recently upgraded a number of PCs from OL2003 (connecting to Exchange - not cached mode) to Outlook 2007 w/ Business Contact Manager (oviously cached mode as this is required). The BCM database is on a shared PC using the BCM database tool. I had experimented with one PC taking it off the cached mode and it had made things speedy again, but I can't keep it like that due to the need for BCM. Any clue what is going on here? Is it cached mode or BCM causing the issue? The speed issues range from starting an email reply and having to wait for what you type to catch up, to slow response if you click on another folder in your mailbox. It's just hurting the Outlook 2007 experience because performance is horrible. Please help! Thanks, Mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have a machine with Outlook/Exchange, but no BCM, that experiences similar slow downs with the connection to Exchange cache mode. I notice similar slowdowns when I open or start editing Tasks and Calendar. Does having BCM in the profile make the slowness when editing emails even slower?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BCM is designed to be responsive to changes on shared databases, so that if one user changes an item, the other machines refresh themselves--fetch data from the database. That works well on a LAN with a server that responds immediately. If you have high network latency, then you could consider using an offline database and manually syncing with the shared databases when required. |
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On Jun 27, 10:08*am, sschmautz
wrote: Luther, I disagree. *BCM is not responsive on our gigabit LAN. *The symptoms described by the other users in this thread match ours precisely. *Even when working locally, connected at gigabit speeds, our BCM is TERRIBLY slow! *The entire BCM database slows outlook down to a crawl. *It just took me about 20 minutes to compose a fairly simple e-mail that should have taken me 3-5 minutes. *However, ever few words that I type, outlook stops responding and I have to sit and wait. *If I click anywhere else in my desktop, it loses all of the typed words that occurred after outlook froze. *So I am forced to sit here and wait or try to catch it when it's unfrozen. *sqlserver is approximately 380MB, and is running my CPU at a very consistent 44-50% at all times. *In other versions of SQL, you can throttle the memory useage but in this version of mysql, you can't. How could Microsoft have released this product with such terrible performance?! "dmailer" wrote: Working off-line is all very well but there are a couple of serious deficiencies in BCM that make this prblematic. 1. When creating a new user it is not possible to set email auto-link whilst off-line. *I need BCM to set email-autolink for all users at all times so that we do not lose any history. 2. We often get emails sent to two or more users at once. *If working off-line we do not knowe whether the other user has created a contact. *So we end up with multiple contacts. *BCM does not seem to offer any tools to find and consolidate multiple instances of ther same contact. "Luther" wrote: On Jun 20, 3:07 pm, dmailer wrote: Same problem. *It is definitely a problem between the cached copy of BCM and the server copy. *Our Outlook / Exchange combination works well with cached mode and will even work over GPRS connections. *BCM is a different matter. *O work at home over an ADSL connection a lot of the time. *If I have BCM off-line then performance of Outlook is fine - but I cannot manage some critical activities such as email auto-linking. *If I am on-line then BCM exchanges approximately 100Mbytes of data with the server every hour! * Needles to say everything grinds to a halt and I experience the freezes referred to above. * THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED "Luther" wrote: On Jun 11, 3:21 pm, sdurman wrote: We are experiencing the same thing. We are using a shared database on the server, set up with the BCM database tool. It always happens when you are typing in an email, it will freeze for anywhere from 30 secs to a few minutes. This may or not be related: none of our computers have been able to install the service pack 2 for MS SQL Server 2005 Express edition. Fails every time, the error codes are different every time, and none of them link to a helpful answer on the MS website. All other updates are current, including SP3 for xp, we are not on vista. I hope someone from MS is reading this, we will be forced to dump BCM if this cannot be fixed very shortly, Outlook is nearly unusable now. "Mike" wrote: Hi all, I just recently upgraded a number of PCs from OL2003 (connecting to Exchange - not cached mode) to Outlook 2007 w/ Business Contact Manager (oviously cached mode as this is required). The BCM database is on a shared PC using the BCM database tool. I had experimented with one PC taking it off the cached mode and it had made things speedy again, but I can't keep it like that due to the need for BCM. Any clue what is going on here? *Is it cached mode or BCM causing the issue? The speed issues range from starting an email reply and having to wait for what you type to catch up, to slow response if you click on another folder in your mailbox. *It's just hurting the Outlook 2007 experience because performance is horrible. *Please help! Thanks, Mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have a machine with Outlook/Exchange, but no BCM, that experiences similar slow downs with the connection to Exchange cache mode. I notice similar slowdowns when I open or start editing Tasks and Calendar. Does having BCM in the profile make the slowness when editing emails even slower?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BCM is designed to be responsive to changes on shared databases, so that if one user changes an item, the other machines refresh themselves--fetch data from the database. That works well on a LAN with a server that responds immediately. If you have high network latency, then you could consider using an offline database and manually syncing with the shared databases when required.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Typing an email involves Outlook and Word (which Outlook uses as an editor). I have no idea why having BCM installed would slow down composing email. I don't notice a difference composing emails in Outlook with and without BCM. I have heard that improved performance is the #1 goal in the next version of Outlook. |
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On Jun 11, 10:44*am, "Mike" wrote:
Hi all, I just recently upgraded a number of PCs from OL2003 (connecting to Exchange - not cached mode) to Outlook 2007 w/ Business Contact Manager (oviously cached mode as this is required). The BCM database is on a shared PC using the BCM database tool. I had experimented with one PC taking it off the cached mode and it had made things speedy again, but I can't keep it like that due to the need for BCM. Any clue what is going on here? *Is it cached mode or BCM causing the issue? The speed issues range from starting an email reply and having to wait for what you type to catch up, to slow response if you click on another folder in your mailbox. *It's just hurting the Outlook 2007 experience because performance is horrible. *Please help! We're having the exact same problem. The symptoms you've described sound exactly like what my company is experiencing. We installed BCM to improve productivity, but it's having the opposite effect. It's very frustrating to try to access, read, or write email, to the point where we may be better off sticking with our old contact management system so that we can use email again. Like the others here, I'd like to know why no one from Microsoft has posted here to offer any advice on what's causing the problem and how to fix it. I'd really like to use BCM, as it would be a much cleaner and much more powerful system than Janna Contact, but if this continues to be an issue, then the conversion seems unlikely. |
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