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John Mc,
All you need is to get one GMAIL acct, for now. Read the info on this webpage, it will give you instructions on setting GMAIL acct in Outlook. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=75291 , then Go to www.gmail.com create an email acct. Make sure that you set up the acct to use POP forwarding so you can download your GMAIL into you Outlook Inbox, and be able to utilize Outlook rules process. Then use the GMAIL outgoing server settings in your Each of your Verizon accts, this is for Outlook2003, other versions run similar procedures. 1. When you open each Verizon email settings in Outlook Leave the pop.verizon.net setting alone BUT change smtp.verizon.net TO smtp.gmail.com in the Outgoing server box. Leave the Verizon Logon Username/Password alone, on this page/window. 2. Then Press More settings button Server tab Check box, My outgoing server requires Authenication. 3. Select "Log on using..." , Put your GMAIL Username & password in the appropriate boxes. 4. On the Advance for each of your Verizon accts, you can leave Port:110 for the incoming server. And Do Not check the box for encrypted (SSL) connection. 5. Change the outgoing mail server Port Setting to Port: 465, as the page instructs you. And check the box for encrypted (SSL) connection. 6. You can also increase the timeout setting, if necessary. Once you -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate "John Mc" wrote in message ... I am retired, and this notebook computer goes with us to various places on short-term vacations. So, unfortunately, I have no known "work ISP" at our varying destinations. Therefore, it seems that my practical options are your suggestions 3a (which I will pursue), 3b (which I'm now doing, clumsily), and 3c(1). I want nothing to do with AOL. I know nothing about Gmail. Are you suggesting (1) using Gmail accounts INSTEAD of Verizon (which I would think would cause a lot of problems "replying to" or "forwarding" emails received on the Verizon accounts, just as using the Verizon webmail site does), or (2) simply copying the port setting from a new Gmail account to modify my existing Verizon outgoing port number. Can you give me a URL for Gmail? Thanks again Rich/rerat" wrote: John Mc, 1. So you are saying that it works fine when at Home, and connected to Verizon, but will not work from WORK? 2. Is this a notebook that you take from Home to Work, and back again? If your Work ISP is not Verizon, or a different type of Verizon service. Verizon may be blocking access to their outgoing mail servers, since you are not connected to your Home service. 3. Which leaves you with the following solutions: a. See if there is a setting for travelers from Verizon. b. Use their webmail interface when not at Home. c. Set up a Gmail account, and try using their Outgoing Mail server settings in Verizon Accts. 1. You might consider getting 4 new GMAIL accts to replace those 4 Verizon accts, I don't know the limitations of how many accts you can have. 2. AOL offers free email accts, (you can have multiple ones), utilizing either POP3 or IMAP accts. Plus access to their outgoing mail servers using alternate PORTS. d. Create Dummy Verizon accts, using your Work place's ISP Outgoing server setting. You will need to remember to select those accts before sending email from Work, to appear that you are sending from your Verizon acct. You will need to set these accts to "Send Only". You may run into a problem with Items #3c & #3d, if you send out a lot of emails through those Verizon accounts. Gmail (or alternate email service) or your Work ISP Mail service, may block because of excessive bandwidth use. I hate to be a kill joy, but if your accts are contracted out to MSN from Verizon. There has been instances where MSN/HotMail mail servers that download to Outlook Express, Outlook, or other email applications, have been out of commission for up to a week, or more. And the only thing that you could do is use the webmail interface for those accts, to view or send messages from those accts. Until they fixed the problem. -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate "John Mc" wrote in message ... Rich, the answer to #1 is yes, at home Outlook sends messages just fine. And since I've changed nothing regarding anti-virus software or toolbars since it worked at home, I would think #3 and #4 do not apply (but thanks for considering these possibilities). Than leaves #2, and the possibility of server problems. But I've had this problem for over a week, and I don't think Verizon would be "down" for that long. I asked them about other port numbers, and they say they do not have any ports except 110 incoming and 25 outgoing. I will try their customer service dept rather than tech support to ask about settings for travelers. Thanks "Rich/rerat" wrote: John Mc, 1. Have you ever been able to send message through your Verizon from Outlook? Your original settings might have been okay, but Verizon may have had server problems. The past few days. 2. Are you connected to Verizon's ISP when trying to send email? If you are using another ISP for your Internet connection, Verizon may block access to their outgoing servers. You will need to contact them, see if they have settings for vacationers, or traveling businessmen. 3. If you have a Antivirus program checking incoming/outgoing email, you should turn off this feature. Some of these antivirus programs, will require that you actually uninstall the program first. Then when you reinstall it, choose the Custom Installation feature, and make sure that you do not select Email scanning. 4. Also if you have a toolbar, such as Google or Yahoo, make sure that it is not blocking Verizon, I personally don't use them, so you will need to find the feature to allow sites. As I stated earlier, when looking at Verizon's website, it seems that they use multiple email services to provide email function to their customers. You need to contact them, and see what email service is handling your acct(s), and the settings that are required. If they say that they only provide settings for Outlook Express, they are the same as Outlook. -- Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate |
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John Mc wrote:
I couldn't tell from your reply, whether or not you saw MY description of a problem identical to AMuglach's; You didn't describe anything. Your message included AMuglach's message and nothing else. -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] |
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John Mc wrote:
I am retired, and this notebook computer goes with us to various places on short-term vacations. So, unfortunately, I have no known "work ISP" at our varying destinations. Therefore, it seems that my practical options are your suggestions 3a (which I will pursue), 3b (which I'm now doing, clumsily), and 3c(1). I want nothing to do with AOL. If you are traveling with your PC and connect to different ISPs, then you must either change your account to use the SMTP server of the ISP to which you connect, or you must properly authenticate to your own server. Many ISPs do not like to transmit messages on their networks that appear to come from another network. -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] |
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Rich,
I really appreciate you sticking with me this far. I see that you're trying to have me do an "end-around" the Verzon outgoing server. I tried everything you said below, and everything with Gmail worked as you said (I even got Gmail's welcoming message in my Outlook Inbox), except that (again) checking the outgoing SSL box produced an error message that the server doesn't support SSL. The furthest I got was with a Gmail-modified Outlook account that (a) requires SMTP authentication and logging onto my new Gmail account, and (b) has been set in Advanced to an incoming port of 995 and an outgoing port of 465, with both SSL boxes unchecked. This attempt did not trip over an unknown server, or SSL, but it timed out after 5 minutes for a trivial outgoing email. Do you think there's any point in further pursuing this line of workaround? You might notice that another person (whose name and posting I cannot see at this time) responded to my previous message that I need to determine and coordinate with whatever ISP I'm hooked up with down here in Phoenix. I looked in the business white pages, and Verizon shows virtually no land-line (meaning DSL) presence here, so I'm obviously with a different ISP. "Rich/rerat" wrote: John Mc, All you need is to get one GMAIL acct, for now. Read the info on this webpage, it will give you instructions on setting GMAIL acct in Outlook. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=75291 , then Go to www.gmail.com create an email acct. Make sure that you set up the acct to use POP forwarding so you can download your GMAIL into you Outlook Inbox, and be able to utilize Outlook rules process. Then use the GMAIL outgoing server settings in your Each of your Verizon accts, this is for Outlook2003, other versions run similar procedures. 1. When you open each Verizon email settings in Outlook Leave the pop.verizon.net setting alone BUT change smtp.verizon.net TO smtp.gmail.com in the Outgoing server box. Leave the Verizon Logon Username/Password alone, on this page/window. 2. Then Press More settings button Server tab Check box, My outgoing server requires Authenication. 3. Select "Log on using..." , Put your GMAIL Username & password in the appropriate boxes. 4. On the Advance for each of your Verizon accts, you can leave Port:110 for the incoming server. And Do Not check the box for encrypted (SSL) connection. 5. Change the outgoing mail server Port Setting to Port: 465, as the page instructs you. And check the box for encrypted (SSL) connection. 6. You can also increase the timeout setting, if necessary. Once you -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate "John Mc" wrote in message ... I am retired, and this notebook computer goes with us to various places on short-term vacations. So, unfortunately, I have no known "work ISP" at our varying destinations. Therefore, it seems that my practical options are your suggestions 3a (which I will pursue), 3b (which I'm now doing, clumsily), and 3c(1). I want nothing to do with AOL. I know nothing about Gmail. Are you suggesting (1) using Gmail accounts INSTEAD of Verizon (which I would think would cause a lot of problems "replying to" or "forwarding" emails received on the Verizon accounts, just as using the Verizon webmail site does), or (2) simply copying the port setting from a new Gmail account to modify my existing Verizon outgoing port number. Can you give me a URL for Gmail? Thanks again Rich/rerat" wrote: John Mc, 1. So you are saying that it works fine when at Home, and connected to Verizon, but will not work from WORK? 2. Is this a notebook that you take from Home to Work, and back again? If your Work ISP is not Verizon, or a different type of Verizon service. Verizon may be blocking access to their outgoing mail servers, since you are not connected to your Home service. 3. Which leaves you with the following solutions: a. See if there is a setting for travelers from Verizon. b. Use their webmail interface when not at Home. c. Set up a Gmail account, and try using their Outgoing Mail server settings in Verizon Accts. 1. You might consider getting 4 new GMAIL accts to replace those 4 Verizon accts, I don't know the limitations of how many accts you can have. 2. AOL offers free email accts, (you can have multiple ones), utilizing either POP3 or IMAP accts. Plus access to their outgoing mail servers using alternate PORTS. d. Create Dummy Verizon accts, using your Work place's ISP Outgoing server setting. You will need to remember to select those accts before sending email from Work, to appear that you are sending from your Verizon acct. You will need to set these accts to "Send Only". You may run into a problem with Items #3c & #3d, if you send out a lot of emails through those Verizon accounts. Gmail (or alternate email service) or your Work ISP Mail service, may block because of excessive bandwidth use. I hate to be a kill joy, but if your accts are contracted out to MSN from Verizon. There has been instances where MSN/HotMail mail servers that download to Outlook Express, Outlook, or other email applications, have been out of commission for up to a week, or more. And the only thing that you could do is use the webmail interface for those accts, to view or send messages from those accts. Until they fixed the problem. -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate "John Mc" wrote in message ... Rich, the answer to #1 is yes, at home Outlook sends messages just fine. And since I've changed nothing regarding anti-virus software or toolbars since it worked at home, I would think #3 and #4 do not apply (but thanks for considering these possibilities). Than leaves #2, and the possibility of server problems. But I've had this problem for over a week, and I don't think Verizon would be "down" for that long. I asked them about other port numbers, and they say they do not have any ports except 110 incoming and 25 outgoing. I will try their customer service dept rather than tech support to ask about settings for travelers. Thanks "Rich/rerat" wrote: John Mc, 1. Have you ever been able to send message through your Verizon from Outlook? Your original settings might have been okay, but Verizon may have had server problems. The past few days. 2. Are you connected to Verizon's ISP when trying to send email? If you are using another ISP for your Internet connection, Verizon may block access to their outgoing servers. You will need to contact them, see if they have settings for vacationers, or traveling businessmen. 3. If you have a Antivirus program checking incoming/outgoing email, you should turn off this feature. Some of these antivirus programs, will require that you actually uninstall the program first. Then when you reinstall it, choose the Custom Installation feature, and make sure that you do not select Email scanning. 4. Also if you have a toolbar, such as Google or Yahoo, make sure that it is not blocking Verizon, I personally don't use them, so you will need to find the feature to allow sites. As I stated earlier, when looking at Verizon's website, it seems that they use multiple email services to provide email function to their customers. You need to contact them, and see what email service is handling your acct(s), and the settings that are required. If they say that they only provide settings for Outlook Express, they are the same as Outlook. -- Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate |
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Brian, thank you for getting into this problem.
By "properly authenticate to your own server", I presume you mean checking "My outgoing server (SMTP) requires authentication" in the Outgoing Server tab after clicking More Settings in Outlook 2003 account setup. If you mean something else (or more), please explain. My email accounts have always been set up with this option turned ON. Why might this not suffice (as you imply it should)? Also, can you tell me how to identify the ISP I'm connected to when I'm travelling to various vacation spots? Here in Scottsdale, AZ, I am connected to a non-secure condominium wi-fi network, but I can also connect hardwire to a Cox cable modem. I have no problem receiving emails or getting Internet access on either of these connections. But is there any generic way, online, to identify a wi-fi ISP and get its outgoing port numbers and any other required settings? Thanks for any help help you can give me. "Brian Tillman" wrote: John Mc wrote: I am retired, and this notebook computer goes with us to various places on short-term vacations. So, unfortunately, I have no known "work ISP" at our varying destinations. Therefore, it seems that my practical options are your suggestions 3a (which I will pursue), 3b (which I'm now doing, clumsily), and 3c(1). I want nothing to do with AOL. If you are traveling with your PC and connect to different ISPs, then you must either change your account to use the SMTP server of the ISP to which you connect, or you must properly authenticate to your own server. Many ISPs do not like to transmit messages on their networks that appear to come from another network. -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] |
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John Mc wrote:
By "properly authenticate to your own server", I presume you mean checking "My outgoing server (SMTP) requires authentication" in the Outgoing Server tab after clicking More Settings in Outlook 2003 account setup. If you mean something else (or more), please explain. My email accounts have always been set up with this option turned ON. Why might this not suffice (as you imply it should)? That's what I mean. That's typically the way you make sure you can send no matter what network you're on. The domain of the outgoing server should match the domain of the sending address, as well, but I assume that's already true. Also, can you tell me how to identify the ISP I'm connected to when I'm travelling to various vacation spots? Here in Scottsdale, AZ, I am connected to a non-secure condominium wi-fi network, but I can also connect hardwire to a Cox cable modem. I have no problem receiving emails or getting Internet access on either of these connections. But is there any generic way, online, to identify a wi-fi ISP and get its outgoing port numbers and any other required settings? I don't know of any generic way. -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] |
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John Mc,
I read more on the internet about this, you are in a Catch-22 situation with Verizon, as your Home ISP/DSL service. Is it possible to get another HiSpeed Internet service in your area? It seems what I read, Verizon offers very little customer service, and not a flexible Internet/Mail service. But that is just my opinion. This is what I have figured out, about your problem with Verizon. I know it may seem that I am stating the obvious to you. 1. While connected to them at "Home" you cannot send email through another company's outgoing mail server. a. On the non-Verizon mail accts you need to put the verizon outgoing server name and settings, if you want to send mail through those accts while connected to Verizon.. 2. While away from Home, your Verizon email accts cannot send through the Verizon outgoing email server, while connected through another service. a. So the GMAIL by-pass will only work if you are not connected to Verizon DSL. 3. Since you are a verizon customer, and they seem to allow AOL Mail on their service, I know you don't want to hear this. You might try creating a single AOL Mail acct like you did Gmail. After getting an AOL acct. a. In Outlook2003 TOOLS Email Accts Add New Acct Select POP3 acct Use the following server information. Incoming Server: pop.aol.com Outgoing Server: smtp.aol.com On the Advance tab under more settings. Incoming Mail Server Port:110 No checkmark for SSL connection. Outgoing Mail Server Port:587 Checkmark for SSL connection. b. You might consider setting your server timeout to the MAX, 10 mins. If you have not deleted your GMail acct from Outlook, you might try increasing the timeout setting to 10 mins, and see if you can send through that acct. c. See if you can send test messages from the AOL acct. If you can, then you might be able add the Outgoing Mail server settings to your Verizon accts. This may or may not work. 4. Or wait just wait, until you are away from Home and the Verizon service, and try utilizing the Outgoing server settings from either GMail or AOL in your Verizon accts. I don't know what else I can offer. I know that this might not be any help to you. -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate "John Mc" wrote in message ... Rich, I really appreciate you sticking with me this far. I see that you're trying to have me do an "end-around" the Verzon outgoing server. I tried everything you said below, and everything with Gmail worked as you said (I even got Gmail's welcoming message in my Outlook Inbox), except that (again) checking the outgoing SSL box produced an error message that the server doesn't support SSL. The furthest I got was with a Gmail-modified Outlook account that (a) requires SMTP authentication and logging onto my new Gmail account, and (b) has been set in Advanced to an incoming port of 995 and an outgoing port of 465, with both SSL boxes unchecked. This attempt did not trip over an unknown server, or SSL, but it timed out after 5 minutes for a trivial outgoing email. Do you think there's any point in further pursuing this line of workaround? You might notice that another person (whose name and posting I cannot see at this time) responded to my previous message that I need to determine and coordinate with whatever ISP I'm hooked up with down here in Phoenix. I looked in the business white pages, and Verizon shows virtually no land-line (meaning DSL) presence here, so I'm obviously with a different ISP. "Rich/rerat" wrote: John Mc, All you need is to get one GMAIL acct, for now. Read the info on this webpage, it will give you instructions on setting GMAIL acct in Outlook. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=75291 , then Go to www.gmail.com create an email acct. Make sure that you set up the acct to use POP forwarding so you can download your GMAIL into you Outlook Inbox, and be able to utilize Outlook rules process. Then use the GMAIL outgoing server settings in your Each of your Verizon accts, this is for Outlook2003, other versions run similar procedures. 1. When you open each Verizon email settings in Outlook Leave the pop.verizon.net setting alone BUT change smtp.verizon.net TO smtp.gmail.com in the Outgoing server box. Leave the Verizon Logon Username/Password alone, on this page/window. 2. Then Press More settings button Server tab Check box, My outgoing server requires Authenication. 3. Select "Log on using..." , Put your GMAIL Username & password in the appropriate boxes. 4. On the Advance for each of your Verizon accts, you can leave Port:110 for the incoming server. And Do Not check the box for encrypted (SSL) connection. 5. Change the outgoing mail server Port Setting to Port: 465, as the page instructs you. And check the box for encrypted (SSL) connection. 6. You can also increase the timeout setting, if necessary. Once you -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate |
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I'm having the same problem on a laptop & desktop all of a sudden. Only
difference is my accounts are with comcast not verizon so I don't think that's the issue. Comcast says it's a MS issue and from research it appears that 2002 had the same problem and recommends setting up a new e-mail account. Anybody come up with a better answer?? "Rich/rerat" wrote: John Mc, 1. Have you ever been able to send message through your Verizon from Outlook? Your original settings might have been okay, but Verizon may have had server problems. The past few days. 2. Are you connected to Verizon's ISP when trying to send email? If you are using another ISP for your Internet connection, Verizon may block access to their outgoing servers. You will need to contact them, see if they have settings for vacationers, or traveling businessmen. 3. If you have a Antivirus program checking incoming/outgoing email, you should turn off this feature. Some of these antivirus programs, will require that you actually uninstall the program first. Then when you reinstall it, choose the Custom Installation feature, and make sure that you do not select Email scanning. 4. Also if you have a toolbar, such as Google or Yahoo, make sure that it is not blocking Verizon, I personally don't use them, so you will need to find the feature to allow sites. As I stated earlier, when looking at Verizon's website, it seems that they use multiple email services to provide email function to their customers. You need to contact them, and see what email service is handling your acct(s), and the settings that are required. If they say that they only provide settings for Outlook Express, they are the same as Outlook. -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate "John Mc" wrote in message ... Thanks for trying to help, Rich. I tried all three other port settings WITHOUT checking the SSL box, and I got the same error message. When I tried the four ports (including #25) with that box checked, I got a different error message: "Task 'John and Beth - Sending' reported error (0x800CCC7D) : 'Your outgoing (SMTP) server does not support SSL-secured connections. If SSL-secured connections have worked in the past, contact your server administrator or Internet service provider (ISP)." I've never checked that box in the past. Any further suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. "Rich/rerat" wrote: John Mc, I was replying to AMuglach, the OP of the thread, I failed to see that I was replying to your posting, in the thread, your message or question was not part of the posting. I do not have a verizon acct, and couldn't go to far into their Help pages, but a glimpse through their website, it appears that have multiple mail services handling their customers email accts. Such as Yahoo, MSN, Hotmail, AOL, etc... What you might need to do is change the Outgoing Server port settings from the default Port:25, in your Outlook application. If you PC is behind a router or has a firewall/security program installed. Make sure that the router or firewall/security program is not set to block the below listed Ports. In Outlook 2003 Tools Email Accrs Change or View Email accts Select a Verizon acct one by one Change button More Settings Button Advance Tab Change Outgoing Server Port setting to one of the following common Port settings, it will be trial an error. Port: 465 Port: 587 Port: 995 I would also increase the timeout setting a minute or two. Also make sure the box is "checked" for just the outgoing server: "This server requires an encrypted connection (SSL). Then test and see if you can send an email message. If you can't try another port setting. If it works then, change the setting for each of your other Verizon Accts. If that fails, you need check their website for your particular mail service, or call Verizon, and ask assistance in setting up their email accts. Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate "John Mc" wrote in message ... Rich, I couldn't tell from your reply, whether or not you saw MY description of a problem identical to AMuglach's; I gave a lot more detail about the error messages. The SMTP server I have always specified (successfully) for Verizon is: "outgoing.verizon.net". Are you suggesting something diffferent? By the way, two additional facts I forgot to mention: (1) I removed and reinstalled Outlook 2003, in case my software had become corrupted; that made no difference. (2) I CAN send emails using Verizon's website, from the same 4 email addresses I use with Outlook. It's just much clumsier: only one account (address) at a time, and (worst of all) NO address-book capability that I know of. I have to copy/paste each address from my Outlook address book. Thanks for any help you can give me. |
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![]() "Brian Tillman" wrote: John Mc wrote: I couldn't tell from your reply, whether or not you saw MY description of a problem identical to AMuglach's; You didn't describe anything. Your message included AMuglach's message and nothing else. -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] I am now having the same problem with Comcast. It started just a few days ago. I called Comcast. They have checked everything and I can also receive emails but not send them. I can send emails from the Comcast site, but not from Outlook. They also recommended contacting Microsoft. Can anyone help? |
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tb-moore wrote:
I am now having the same problem with Comcast. It started just a few days ago. I called Comcast. They have checked everything and I can also receive emails but not send them. I can send emails from the Comcast site, but not from Outlook. They also recommended contacting Microsoft. Can anyone help? And you, too, have included no details of any kind. -- Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] |
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