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HangedMan October 29th 07 06:14 PM

Outlook 2007 Copy/Paste address information problems
 
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the address to go into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a 411.com listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if I click on the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the info are in the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set to Canada but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone know the rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the right fields and how
to set the country?

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] October 29th 07 09:47 PM

Outlook 2007 Copy/Paste address information problems
 
Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address directly into a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse the address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the address to go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a 411.com listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if I click on the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the info are in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set to Canada but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone know the rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the right fields and
how
to set the country?



HangedMan October 29th 07 11:51 PM

Outlook 2007 Copy/Paste address information problems
 
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it would be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual question. I guess the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about 3.6 MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address directly into a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse the address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the address to go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a 411.com listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if I click on the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the info are in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set to Canada but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone know the rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the right fields and
how
to set the country?



Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] October 30th 07 05:40 PM

Outlook 2007 Copy/Paste address information problems
 
So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a derived field? That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it would be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual question. I guess the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about 3.6 MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address directly into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse the address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the address to go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a 411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if I click on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the info are in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set to Canada
but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone know the rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the right fields and
how
to set the country?




HangedMan October 31st 07 10:44 PM

Outlook 2007 Copy/Paste address information problems
 
OK that's fine but does anyone know the rules for parsing or where I could
look them up? That was really my (perhaps mistated) question if you refer to
the last sentence of my original post.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a derived field? That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it would be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual question. I guess the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about 3.6 MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address directly into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse the address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the address to go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a 411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if I click on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the info are in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set to Canada
but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone know the rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the right fields and
how
to set the country?



Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] November 1st 07 10:10 AM

Outlook 2007 Copy/Paste address information problems
 
What do you mean by "rules for parsing?" There are no rules. Place the
individual address elements into their respective fields. Outlook cannot
parse address information by itself when you place HTML code into a derived
field.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
OK that's fine but does anyone know the rules for parsing or where I could
look them up? That was really my (perhaps mistated) question if you refer
to
the last sentence of my original post.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a derived field? That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it would be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual question. I guess
the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about 3.6 MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address directly
into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse the address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the address to
go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a 411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if I click
on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the info are
in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set to
Canada
but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone know the
rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the right fields
and
how
to set the country?




HangedMan November 1st 07 09:49 PM

Outlook 2007 Copy/Paste address information problems
 
Hello Russ.
I’m not sure I can follow the ”There are no rules” idea. This idea “Outlook
cannot parse address information by itself when…” seems to be a rule, one of
those rules I’m trying to understand.
Anyway clearly Outlook is consistent in how it formats an address. It has
never simply put all of the information in the first field. To me, there is
some “logic” that is being done to determine which info goes in which field
so I continued testing.
I took that same address from that same website and copied it to a text
document first so now all that was left was plain text. I copied it from
there and still the exact same placement of text within the address fields...
Anyway after lots of testing, I noticed that I could copy/paste that address
directly from the website to the address in the contact if I added the
country to it after (well, specifically a CR and then the country). That
address only worked when the country was Canada, not United States of
America, so I guess the logic for zip codes (being all numbers in the US
instead of letter/number/letter/space/number/letter/number in Canada made the
difference.
I made a new clip in case my babbling on is confusing to anyone. This one is
a bit smaller.
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr2.avi

I noticed a few other things with the formatting behavior;
If there are no CRs (address all on one line) the address starts in the city
field.
If there are multiple CRs, all except what comes after the last one will be
in the street address field.
I guess I answered my own questions about the formatting but I hope that
helps anyone else. I guess it’s less of a problem in the US since the default
country is the US.
My last question is does anyone know how to make Canada the default country
(for a new Outlook contact)?


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

What do you mean by "rules for parsing?" There are no rules. Place the
individual address elements into their respective fields. Outlook cannot
parse address information by itself when you place HTML code into a derived
field.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
OK that's fine but does anyone know the rules for parsing or where I could
look them up? That was really my (perhaps mistated) question if you refer
to
the last sentence of my original post.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a derived field? That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it would be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual question. I guess
the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about 3.6 MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address directly
into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse the address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the address to
go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a 411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if I click
on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the info are
in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set to
Canada
but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone know the
rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the right fields
and
how
to set the country?




Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] November 2nd 07 12:06 AM

Outlook 2007 Copy/Paste address information problems
 
It has never been a good idea to paste address information into a derived
field like the address block. When you do so, you force Outlook to parse the
data instead of doing it yourself. Outlook may or may not get it right. You
will.

Outlook relies on your operating system settings to set your default
country. State how you set that.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Russ.
I’m not sure I can follow the ”There are no rules” idea. This idea
“Outlook
cannot parse address information by itself when…” seems to be a rule, one
of
those rules I’m trying to understand.
Anyway clearly Outlook is consistent in how it formats an address. It has
never simply put all of the information in the first field. To me, there
is
some “logic” that is being done to determine which info goes in which
field
so I continued testing.
I took that same address from that same website and copied it to a text
document first so now all that was left was plain text. I copied it from
there and still the exact same placement of text within the address
fields...
Anyway after lots of testing, I noticed that I could copy/paste that
address
directly from the website to the address in the contact if I added the
country to it after (well, specifically a CR and then the country). That
address only worked when the country was Canada, not United States of
America, so I guess the logic for zip codes (being all numbers in the US
instead of letter/number/letter/space/number/letter/number in Canada made
the
difference.
I made a new clip in case my babbling on is confusing to anyone. This one
is
a bit smaller.
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr2.avi

I noticed a few other things with the formatting behavior;
If there are no CRs (address all on one line) the address starts in the
city
field.
If there are multiple CRs, all except what comes after the last one will
be
in the street address field.
I guess I answered my own questions about the formatting but I hope that
helps anyone else. I guess it’s less of a problem in the US since the
default
country is the US.
My last question is does anyone know how to make Canada the default
country
(for a new Outlook contact)?


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

What do you mean by "rules for parsing?" There are no rules. Place the
individual address elements into their respective fields. Outlook cannot
parse address information by itself when you place HTML code into a
derived
field.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
OK that's fine but does anyone know the rules for parsing or where I
could
look them up? That was really my (perhaps mistated) question if you
refer
to
the last sentence of my original post.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a derived field?
That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it would be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual question. I
guess
the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about 3.6 MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address directly
into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse the
address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the address
to
go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a 411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if I
click
on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the info
are
in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set to
Canada
but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone know the
rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the right
fields
and
how
to set the country?





HangedMan November 2nd 07 12:25 AM

Outlook 2007 Copy/Paste address information problems
 
Well, it shouldn't be a big deal for Outlook's address block to parse address
information. I've got no problem "forcing" Outlook to do it. I rather think
of "doing it myself" as the instead part, as in instead of letting Outlook do
it for me. Anyway I'm pretty sure I understand how to make sure Outlook gets
it right now.

I expected Outlook to use the OS setting since I couldn't find any option in
Outlook (but I could be wrong) so that's where I looked to make sure I had it
set to Canada as I mentioned, in the regional and language options as my
location.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

It has never been a good idea to paste address information into a derived
field like the address block. When you do so, you force Outlook to parse the
data instead of doing it yourself. Outlook may or may not get it right. You
will.

Outlook relies on your operating system settings to set your default
country. State how you set that.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Russ.
I’m not sure I can follow the ”There are no rules” idea. This idea
“Outlook
cannot parse address information by itself when…” seems to be a rule, one
of
those rules I’m trying to understand.
Anyway clearly Outlook is consistent in how it formats an address. It has
never simply put all of the information in the first field. To me, there
is
some “logic” that is being done to determine which info goes in which
field
so I continued testing.
I took that same address from that same website and copied it to a text
document first so now all that was left was plain text. I copied it from
there and still the exact same placement of text within the address
fields...
Anyway after lots of testing, I noticed that I could copy/paste that
address
directly from the website to the address in the contact if I added the
country to it after (well, specifically a CR and then the country). That
address only worked when the country was Canada, not United States of
America, so I guess the logic for zip codes (being all numbers in the US
instead of letter/number/letter/space/number/letter/number in Canada made
the
difference.
I made a new clip in case my babbling on is confusing to anyone. This one
is
a bit smaller.
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr2.avi

I noticed a few other things with the formatting behavior;
If there are no CRs (address all on one line) the address starts in the
city
field.
If there are multiple CRs, all except what comes after the last one will
be
in the street address field.
I guess I answered my own questions about the formatting but I hope that
helps anyone else. I guess it’s less of a problem in the US since the
default
country is the US.
My last question is does anyone know how to make Canada the default
country
(for a new Outlook contact)?


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

What do you mean by "rules for parsing?" There are no rules. Place the
individual address elements into their respective fields. Outlook cannot
parse address information by itself when you place HTML code into a
derived
field.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
OK that's fine but does anyone know the rules for parsing or where I
could
look them up? That was really my (perhaps mistated) question if you
refer
to
the last sentence of my original post.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a derived field?
That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it would be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual question. I
guess
the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about 3.6 MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address directly
into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse the
address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the address
to
go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a 411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if I
click
on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the info
are
in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set to
Canada
but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone know the
rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the right
fields
and
how
to set the country?





Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] November 2nd 07 01:47 AM

Outlook 2007 Copy/Paste address information problems
 
Can't repro your problem. I don't see where you answered my question.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Well, it shouldn't be a big deal for Outlook's address block to parse
address
information. I've got no problem "forcing" Outlook to do it. I rather
think
of "doing it myself" as the instead part, as in instead of letting Outlook
do
it for me. Anyway I'm pretty sure I understand how to make sure Outlook
gets
it right now.

I expected Outlook to use the OS setting since I couldn't find any option
in
Outlook (but I could be wrong) so that's where I looked to make sure I had
it
set to Canada as I mentioned, in the regional and language options as my
location.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

It has never been a good idea to paste address information into a derived
field like the address block. When you do so, you force Outlook to parse
the
data instead of doing it yourself. Outlook may or may not get it right.
You
will.

Outlook relies on your operating system settings to set your default
country. State how you set that.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Russ.
I’m not sure I can follow the ”There are no rules” idea. This idea
“Outlook
cannot parse address information by itself when…” seems to be a rule,
one
of
those rules I’m trying to understand.
Anyway clearly Outlook is consistent in how it formats an address. It
has
never simply put all of the information in the first field. To me,
there
is
some “logic” that is being done to determine which info goes in which
field
so I continued testing.
I took that same address from that same website and copied it to a text
document first so now all that was left was plain text. I copied it
from
there and still the exact same placement of text within the address
fields...
Anyway after lots of testing, I noticed that I could copy/paste that
address
directly from the website to the address in the contact if I added the
country to it after (well, specifically a CR and then the country).
That
address only worked when the country was Canada, not United States of
America, so I guess the logic for zip codes (being all numbers in the
US
instead of letter/number/letter/space/number/letter/number in Canada
made
the
difference.
I made a new clip in case my babbling on is confusing to anyone. This
one
is
a bit smaller.
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr2.avi

I noticed a few other things with the formatting behavior;
If there are no CRs (address all on one line) the address starts in the
city
field.
If there are multiple CRs, all except what comes after the last one
will
be
in the street address field.
I guess I answered my own questions about the formatting but I hope
that
helps anyone else. I guess it’s less of a problem in the US since the
default
country is the US.
My last question is does anyone know how to make Canada the default
country
(for a new Outlook contact)?


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

What do you mean by "rules for parsing?" There are no rules. Place the
individual address elements into their respective fields. Outlook
cannot
parse address information by itself when you place HTML code into a
derived
field.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
OK that's fine but does anyone know the rules for parsing or where I
could
look them up? That was really my (perhaps mistated) question if you
refer
to
the last sentence of my original post.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

So you're copying and pasting from a Web page into a derived field?
That
will have mixed results at best depending on the HTML code.
As I said, I'd parse the address elements yourself.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in message
...
Hello Russ,

I guess that didn't mean much by itself, but I thought it would
be
understood with the rest of the info and the actual question. I
guess
the
best way to explain is with a short video clip. It's about 3.6
MBs
http://www.favron.com/images/posted/outlookaddr.avi



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Provide clearer information, please. "Just copy an address
directly
into
a
Contact" tells us nothing. That could mean anything. Parse the
address
elements yourself.
Clarify how you set your location and in what operating system.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"HangedMan" wrote in
message
...
I don't seem to be able to get the different parts of the
address
to
go
into
the intended fields if I just copy an address, say from a
411.com
listing
directly into a contact. The information looks right but if I
click
on
the
address button to open the check address dialog most of the
info
are
in
the
wrong fields.

Also I have my location in regional and laguage options set to
Canada
but
always end up with the county/region as US. Does anyone know
the
rules
(commas / spaces or whatever) to match the data to the right
fields
and
how
to set the country?







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