Sue,

I'm not familiar with the adding the Message Class property to a view and I
can't seem to find anything in the online help. Can you give me a push in
the right direction?

Thanks,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Your eyeballs are better than mine, since you know what fields are supposed
to be there.

I bet the problem items in the other folder are using a different form. Add
the Message Class property to the view to confirm that.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
I took your advice and changed the version number of the form and
re-published it. I can see that both directories are using the same form
version.

I can add records to both folders and fill in all the fields so I don't
believe there are any missing fields. Is there a better way to check
this?

Yes, when I look at the properties of the folder, on the Forms tab there
is
a section called: "Allow these forms in this folder." and it is set to
"Only
forms listsed above."

But no change in the behavior.
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
One or the other folder probably might not have all the field definitions
based on your description. Also, is it restricted to a particular form?

Be sure when you publish that you increment the version number on the
(Properties) page. That makes it infinitely easier to know which version
of
the form is in use.

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Ok, I think I've isolated my problem.
Here's what I did:
1.) Created a custom form with user defined fields and created views to
go
along with it.
2.) Applied these new forms and views to a subfolder of the original.
3.) Added some records based on this form to the original folder.
4.) Modified the custom form, adding a new value to a drop down list of a
custom field.
5.) Published this to both folders.
6.) Added more records to the original folder based on the updated form.

Now I find that if I want to move or copy records from the original
folder
to the subfolder that only the newest records, based on the current form
design, will move or copy. If I try to copy the other records, based on
the
original form design, I get an error message about the how the operation
can't be completed that the original record may have been moved or
deleted.

Question is then, is this normal? Should I expect to basically orphan
the
original records? Is there any kind of work around? Am I barking up the
wrong tree? Should this have been posted in a new thread?

Thanks much,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
File | Folder | Copy Folder Design. It doesn't copy custom field
definitions, though. Do them manually.

Or just copy the entire folder.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using OL 2003 with an Exchange backend. We are using public folders
and
I created custom views and forms for a calendar folder. Now I'd like to
create another folder similar to this other one but I'd like to save
myself
some time. I can easily use the forms I created for the original folder
but
I can't seem to figure out how to import the custom views. Any
suggestions?
Is this possible?

Thanks in advance,
Linn

To add any field to a table view, right-click the column headings at the top, choose Field Chooser. Use the All * Fields list for that type of folder. Drag the Message Class field to the column headings.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message ...
Sue,

I'm not familiar with the adding the Message Class property to a view and I
can't seem to find anything in the online help. Can you give me a push in
the right direction?

Thanks,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Your eyeballs are better than mine, since you know what fields are supposed
to be there.

I bet the problem items in the other folder are using a different form. Add
the Message Class property to the view to confirm that.


"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
I took your advice and changed the version number of the form and
re-published it. I can see that both directories are using the same form
version.

I can add records to both folders and fill in all the fields so I don't
believe there are any missing fields. Is there a better way to check
this?

Yes, when I look at the properties of the folder, on the Forms tab there
is
a section called: "Allow these forms in this folder." and it is set to
"Only
forms listsed above."

But no change in the behavior.
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
One or the other folder probably might not have all the field definitions
based on your description. Also, is it restricted to a particular form?

Be sure when you publish that you increment the version number on the
(Properties) page. That makes it infinitely easier to know which version
of
the form is in use.

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Ok, I think I've isolated my problem.
Here's what I did:
1.) Created a custom form with user defined fields and created views to
go
along with it.
2.) Applied these new forms and views to a subfolder of the original.
3.) Added some records based on this form to the original folder.
4.) Modified the custom form, adding a new value to a drop down list of a
custom field.
5.) Published this to both folders.
6.) Added more records to the original folder based on the updated form.

Now I find that if I want to move or copy records from the original
folder
to the subfolder that only the newest records, based on the current form
design, will move or copy. If I try to copy the other records, based on
the
original form design, I get an error message about the how the operation
can't be completed that the original record may have been moved or
deleted.

Question is then, is this normal? Should I expect to basically orphan
the
original records? Is there any kind of work around? Am I barking up the
wrong tree? Should this have been posted in a new thread?

Thanks much,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
File | Folder | Copy Folder Design. It doesn't copy custom field
definitions, though. Do them manually.

Or just copy the entire folder.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using OL 2003 with an Exchange backend. We are using public folders
and
I created custom views and forms for a calendar folder. Now I'd like to
create another folder similar to this other one but I'd like to save
myself
some time. I can easily use the forms I created for the original folder
but
I can't seem to figure out how to import the custom views. Any
suggestions?
Is this possible?

Thanks in advance,
Linn

Pickups is a subfolder of Deliveries? Use the Folders collection again:

Set pickupFolder = objName.GetDefaultFolder(olPublicFoldersAllPublicF olders).Folders("Deliveries").Folders("Pickups")

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message ...
Not sure where I look for the scoping that you reference. When I go into
the custom view organizer it shows all my views as "Can Be Used On: This
Folder" and "View Type: Table". Is that what you mean?

I was thinking about possible data corruption when I made the comment about
"integrity".

I'm trying to write the macro that you suggest but I'm having trouble
figuring out how to reference a subfolder. Here is how I reference the
parent folder:
objName.GetDefaultFolder(olPublicFoldersAllPublicF olders).Folders("Deliveries")

The subfolder is called "Pickups" but the sytax just isn't coming to me.

Thanks,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
My guess is that the view either isn't correctly scoped to the folder ("on
this folder, visible to everyone") or that it's been modified and what's
getting copied is the user's cached copy. It's a good idea to write a little
VBA macro that sets View.LockUserChanges = True.

Custom field definitions never copy. Add them manually or write code to
create an item in the folder and add them to the item.

I don't know what you mean by "integrity."

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Thanks Sue,

I'm trying to correct a problem with my public folders. I tried copying
the
entire folder but the problem just moved to the new folder too. If I try
simply creating a new calendar type folder, copying records seems to work
but I don't get my customized layout or the custom field definitions. It
definately looks like a problem with my custom view or form I created.

It's odd though, it was working just fine until this week Monday. The
only
changes I've made were to add a new item to a drop down list on the form
and
I installed a new server on the network. It's not an Exchange server
either.

Is there any way I can test the integrity of my custom fields or the view?
Wonder if something is corrupted.

Sue,

Great tip, I added the Message Class field and that showed which form
version was used to add each record. Then it occured to me that I just
needed to re-associate the older form with the folders and now we can move
or copy records at will.

Thanks much,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
To add any field to a table view, right-click the column headings at the
top, choose Field Chooser. Use the All * Fields list for that type of
folder. Drag the Message Class field to the column headings.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Sue,

I'm not familiar with the adding the Message Class property to a view and
I
can't seem to find anything in the online help. Can you give me a push in
the right direction?

Thanks,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Your eyeballs are better than mine, since you know what fields are
supposed
to be there.

I bet the problem items in the other folder are using a different form.
Add
the Message Class property to the view to confirm that.


"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
I took your advice and changed the version number of the form and
re-published it. I can see that both directories are using the same form
version.

I can add records to both folders and fill in all the fields so I don't
believe there are any missing fields. Is there a better way to check
this?

Yes, when I look at the properties of the folder, on the Forms tab there
is
a section called: "Allow these forms in this folder." and it is set to
"Only
forms listsed above."

But no change in the behavior.
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
One or the other folder probably might not have all the field definitions
based on your description. Also, is it restricted to a particular form?

Be sure when you publish that you increment the version number on the
(Properties) page. That makes it infinitely easier to know which version
of
the form is in use.

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Ok, I think I've isolated my problem.
Here's what I did:
1.) Created a custom form with user defined fields and created views to
go
along with it.
2.) Applied these new forms and views to a subfolder of the original.
3.) Added some records based on this form to the original folder.
4.) Modified the custom form, adding a new value to a drop down list of
a
custom field.
5.) Published this to both folders.
6.) Added more records to the original folder based on the updated form.

Now I find that if I want to move or copy records from the original
folder
to the subfolder that only the newest records, based on the current form
design, will move or copy. If I try to copy the other records, based on
the
original form design, I get an error message about the how the operation
can't be completed that the original record may have been moved or
deleted.

Question is then, is this normal? Should I expect to basically orphan
the
original records? Is there any kind of work around? Am I barking up
the
wrong tree? Should this have been posted in a new thread?

Thanks much,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
File | Folder | Copy Folder Design. It doesn't copy custom field
definitions, though. Do them manually.

Or just copy the entire folder.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using OL 2003 with an Exchange backend. We are using public
folders
and
I created custom views and forms for a calendar folder. Now I'd like
to
create another folder similar to this other one but I'd like to save
myself
some time. I can easily use the forms I created for the original
folder
but
I can't seem to figure out how to import the custom views. Any
suggestions?
Is this possible?

Thanks in advance,
Linn