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Old May 17th 07, 09:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_addins
coastaldata
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Default Outlook 2007: Get Full Message Source

Hello, I've tried the Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting tool, but I still prefer
to use SpamCop.net for spam submissions, because it is a more technical
service that has a lot of connectivity (to blackhole lists and the like).

What I can't figure out is why MS insists that it should be so darn
difficult to extract the *full un-modified source* of a message! It gets
harder and harder to do with each version.

In Outlook 2003, I used an add-in called "OLSpamCop", which is free, but not
longer works with 2007.

I would like to find or build an addin for Outlook 2007 which VERY SIMPLY
opens notepad with the FULL MESSAGE SOURCE for any selected message. This
should include headers, encoded attachments, and the message body.

Does anybody know of such a plugin already in existence, or have any tips
for code samples to help me on my way?

This should be so simple and obvious, I just can't imagine why MS does not
already provide this capability.

Thanks in advance,

--CoDE
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Old May 17th 07, 10:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_addins
Dmitry Streblechenko
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Default Outlook 2007: Get Full Message Source

Because Outlook itself (unlike OE) never uses the MIME source and it would
be a waste of space to store both the original data and the MAPI properties
created by parsing the MIME message.
And if a message is sent between two Exchange mailboxes, a mesage would
never even be converted to the MIME format.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

"coastaldata" wrote in message
...
Hello, I've tried the Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting tool, but I still
prefer
to use SpamCop.net for spam submissions, because it is a more technical
service that has a lot of connectivity (to blackhole lists and the like).

What I can't figure out is why MS insists that it should be so darn
difficult to extract the *full un-modified source* of a message! It gets
harder and harder to do with each version.

In Outlook 2003, I used an add-in called "OLSpamCop", which is free, but
not
longer works with 2007.

I would like to find or build an addin for Outlook 2007 which VERY SIMPLY
opens notepad with the FULL MESSAGE SOURCE for any selected message. This
should include headers, encoded attachments, and the message body.

Does anybody know of such a plugin already in existence, or have any tips
for code samples to help me on my way?

This should be so simple and obvious, I just can't imagine why MS does not
already provide this capability.

Thanks in advance,

--CoDE



  #3  
Old May 17th 07, 10:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_addins
coastaldata
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Default Outlook 2007: Get Full Message Source

Interesting... If I understand correctly, you're saying that the original
message source is not saved?

Some how, some way, there MUST be a way to extract all of this information
in one fell swoop!

It is simply too unthinkable that MS would back a product, in this day and
age of mega-spam, that is not more friendly to spam reduction tools and
techniques.

Is the plugin that I suggest still creatable? Or is Outlook in the "end game"?



"Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:

Because Outlook itself (unlike OE) never uses the MIME source and it would
be a waste of space to store both the original data and the MAPI properties
created by parsing the MIME message.
And if a message is sent between two Exchange mailboxes, a mesage would
never even be converted to the MIME format.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

"coastaldata" wrote in message
...
Hello, I've tried the Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting tool, but I still
prefer
to use SpamCop.net for spam submissions, because it is a more technical
service that has a lot of connectivity (to blackhole lists and the like).

What I can't figure out is why MS insists that it should be so darn
difficult to extract the *full un-modified source* of a message! It gets
harder and harder to do with each version.

In Outlook 2003, I used an add-in called "OLSpamCop", which is free, but
not
longer works with 2007.

I would like to find or build an addin for Outlook 2007 which VERY SIMPLY
opens notepad with the FULL MESSAGE SOURCE for any selected message. This
should include headers, encoded attachments, and the message body.

Does anybody know of such a plugin already in existence, or have any tips
for code samples to help me on my way?

This should be so simple and obvious, I just can't imagine why MS does not
already provide this capability.

Thanks in advance,

--CoDE




  #4  
Old May 17th 07, 11:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_addins
Dmitry Streblechenko
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Posts: 2,116
Default Outlook 2007: Get Full Message Source

Correct, this is exactly what I am saying - the original MIME source is not
normally saved because that would bring no benefits to an end user and will
at least double the size of the message. And no user will appreciate that.
There is a registry entry that will force Outlook to save the complete
source, but it is only used by debug purposes and is not set out of the box.
Outlook does save the *headers* portion of the MIME message in the
PR_TRANSPORT_MESSAGE_HEADERS property.
You can of course re-create a MIME message from a MAPI message, but while it
will look exactly the same to an end user, on the binary level, it will not
be exactly the same as the original message.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

"coastaldata" wrote in message
...
Interesting... If I understand correctly, you're saying that the original
message source is not saved?

Some how, some way, there MUST be a way to extract all of this information
in one fell swoop!

It is simply too unthinkable that MS would back a product, in this day and
age of mega-spam, that is not more friendly to spam reduction tools and
techniques.

Is the plugin that I suggest still creatable? Or is Outlook in the "end
game"?



"Dmitry Streblechenko" wrote:

Because Outlook itself (unlike OE) never uses the MIME source and it
would
be a waste of space to store both the original data and the MAPI
properties
created by parsing the MIME message.
And if a message is sent between two Exchange mailboxes, a mesage would
never even be converted to the MIME format.

Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool

"coastaldata" wrote in message
...
Hello, I've tried the Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting tool, but I still
prefer
to use SpamCop.net for spam submissions, because it is a more technical
service that has a lot of connectivity (to blackhole lists and the
like).

What I can't figure out is why MS insists that it should be so darn
difficult to extract the *full un-modified source* of a message! It
gets
harder and harder to do with each version.

In Outlook 2003, I used an add-in called "OLSpamCop", which is free,
but
not
longer works with 2007.

I would like to find or build an addin for Outlook 2007 which VERY
SIMPLY
opens notepad with the FULL MESSAGE SOURCE for any selected message.
This
should include headers, encoded attachments, and the message body.

Does anybody know of such a plugin already in existence, or have any
tips
for code samples to help me on my way?

This should be so simple and obvious, I just can't imagine why MS does
not
already provide this capability.

Thanks in advance,

--CoDE






 




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