There is a major problem with the handling of time zones on All Day Events.
The people representing Microsoft claim it be "intuitive." What it is is
costly. Outlooks handling of this has completly ruined my calendar more than
once forcing me to completely delete. I would estimate costing me and my
company thousands of dollars due to missed appointments.

Microsoft Outlook handles time zone changes for all day events incorrectly.
It is time for MS to stop claiming it operates the way it is supposed to and
admit they made a mistake - AND FIX IT!!!!!

It is my understanding that other major calendar applications handle this
correctly. Unless Microsoft can get on board with what their users need, and
not be to proud to admit the current system is wrong... I suggest everyone
find other systems that actually work.

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What version of Outlook are you using? Are you changing the computer's
clock/time zone when you change to the other time zone?

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
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http://www.officeforlawyers.com
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http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q



"Clint" wrote in message
:

There is a major problem with the handling of time zones on All Day Events.
The people representing Microsoft claim it be "intuitive." What it is is
costly. Outlooks handling of this has completly ruined my calendar more than
once forcing me to completely delete. I would estimate costing me and my
company thousands of dollars due to missed appointments.

Microsoft Outlook handles time zone changes for all day events incorrectly.
It is time for MS to stop claiming it operates the way it is supposed to and
admit they made a mistake - AND FIX IT!!!!!

It is my understanding that other major calendar applications handle this
correctly. Unless Microsoft can get on board with what their users need, and
not be to proud to admit the current system is wrong... I suggest everyone
find other systems that actually work.

----------------
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suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

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It shouldn't matter... this is what Microsoft does not seem to understand.
All day is just that all day. People do not make all day events on their
calendar to represent a 24 hour event, but rather events without specified
times. Anniversaries - Birthdays - Etc. I happen to use all day events alot
because my business requires a number of things be completed on certain days,
but not a specific times.


"Ben M. Schorr - MVP" wrote:

What version of Outlook are you using? Are you changing the computer's
clock/time zone when you change to the other time zone?

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q



"Clint" wrote in message
:

There is a major problem with the handling of time zones on All Day Events.
The people representing Microsoft claim it be "intuitive." What it is is
costly. Outlooks handling of this has completly ruined my calendar more than
once forcing me to completely delete. I would estimate costing me and my
company thousands of dollars due to missed appointments.

Microsoft Outlook handles time zone changes for all day events incorrectly.
It is time for MS to stop claiming it operates the way it is supposed to and
admit they made a mistake - AND FIX IT!!!!!

It is my understanding that other major calendar applications handle this
correctly. Unless Microsoft can get on board with what their users need, and
not be to proud to admit the current system is wrong... I suggest everyone
find other systems that actually work.

----------------
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suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm....calendari ng

Have you considered using tasks rather than the calendar for those
things?

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q



"Clint" wrote in message
:

It shouldn't matter... this is what Microsoft does not seem to understand.
All day is just that all day. People do not make all day events on their
calendar to represent a 24 hour event, but rather events without specified
times. Anniversaries - Birthdays - Etc. I happen to use all day events alot
because my business requires a number of things be completed on certain days,
but not a specific times.


"Ben M. Schorr - MVP" wrote:


What version of Outlook are you using? Are you changing the computer's
clock/time zone when you change to the other time zone?

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q



"Clint" wrote in message
:


There is a major problem with the handling of time zones on All Day Events.
The people representing Microsoft claim it be "intuitive." What it is is
costly. Outlooks handling of this has completly ruined my calendar more than
once forcing me to completely delete. I would estimate costing me and my
company thousands of dollars due to missed appointments.

Microsoft Outlook handles time zone changes for all day events incorrectly.
It is time for MS to stop claiming it operates the way it is supposed to and
admit they made a mistake - AND FIX IT!!!!!

It is my understanding that other major calendar applications handle this
correctly. Unless Microsoft can get on board with what their users need, and
not be to proud to admit the current system is wrong... I suggest everyone
find other systems that actually work.

----------------
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suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm....calendari ng

Myelf and I think most people use the tasks as a ToDo list. If this were a
paper system - would you write someones birthday on your ToDo list or your
calendar? Wodl you write something that you have to do every other Thursday
on your ToDo list or your calendar?

If I write my friends birthday on my paper calendar. Then I go two time
zones west. I don't rewrite my friend's birthday on the calendar on an
additional day.

"Ben M. Schorr - MVP" wrote:

Have you considered using tasks rather than the calendar for those
things?

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q



"Clint" wrote in message
:

It shouldn't matter... this is what Microsoft does not seem to understand.
All day is just that all day. People do not make all day events on their
calendar to represent a 24 hour event, but rather events without specified
times. Anniversaries - Birthdays - Etc. I happen to use all day events alot
because my business requires a number of things be completed on certain days,
but not a specific times.


"Ben M. Schorr - MVP" wrote:


What version of Outlook are you using? Are you changing the computer's
clock/time zone when you change to the other time zone?

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q



"Clint" wrote in message
:


There is a major problem with the handling of time zones on All Day Events.
The people representing Microsoft claim it be "intuitive." What it is is
costly. Outlooks handling of this has completly ruined my calendar more than
once forcing me to completely delete. I would estimate costing me and my
company thousands of dollars due to missed appointments.

Microsoft Outlook handles time zone changes for all day events incorrectly.
It is time for MS to stop claiming it operates the way it is supposed to and
admit they made a mistake - AND FIX IT!!!!!

It is my understanding that other major calendar applications handle this
correctly. Unless Microsoft can get on board with what their users need, and
not be to proud to admit the current system is wrong... I suggest everyone
find other systems that actually work.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm....calendari ng

You just said that the issue was that you have things that need to be
completed on a certain day. Things that need to be completed are,
pretty much by definition, "To Do"s.

You don't need to complete your friend's birthday (I assume their mom
did that for them). You might need to send your friend a birthday wish,
but that's a ToDo.

Your paper calendar doesn't suffer the same problem because you have to
do the time zone adjustments in your head - you don't change the time
zone on the calendar. If you're in L.A. and he's in NYC then you just
have to know that even though the paper calendar says his birthday
doesn't start until tomorrow, that at 9PM your time it's officially his
birthday.

You can get the same result from Outlook if you simply don't change the
time zone on your computer when you travel.

And yes, I agree that it's a workaround and I am hopeful that it will be
improved in a future version. Unfortunately it's not a simple fix.

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q



"Clint" wrote in message
:

Myelf and I think most people use the tasks as a ToDo list. If this were a
paper system - would you write someones birthday on your ToDo list or your
calendar? Wodl you write something that you have to do every other Thursday
on your ToDo list or your calendar?

If I write my friends birthday on my paper calendar. Then I go two time
zones west. I don't rewrite my friend's birthday on the calendar on an
additional day.

"Ben M. Schorr - MVP" wrote:


Have you considered using tasks rather than the calendar for those
things?

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q



"Clint" wrote in message
:


It shouldn't matter... this is what Microsoft does not seem to understand.
All day is just that all day. People do not make all day events on their
calendar to represent a 24 hour event, but rather events without specified
times. Anniversaries - Birthdays - Etc. I happen to use all day events alot
because my business requires a number of things be completed on certain days,
but not a specific times.


"Ben M. Schorr - MVP" wrote:



What version of Outlook are you using? Are you changing the computer's
clock/time zone when you change to the other time zone?

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q



"Clint" wrote in message
:



There is a major problem with the handling of time zones on All Day Events.
The people representing Microsoft claim it be "intuitive." What it is is
costly. Outlooks handling of this has completly ruined my calendar more than
once forcing me to completely delete. I would estimate costing me and my
company thousands of dollars due to missed appointments.

Microsoft Outlook handles time zone changes for all day events incorrectly.
It is time for MS to stop claiming it operates the way it is supposed to and
admit they made a mistake - AND FIX IT!!!!!

It is my understanding that other major calendar applications handle this
correctly. Unless Microsoft can get on board with what their users need, and
not be to proud to admit the current system is wrong... I suggest everyone
find other systems that actually work.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm....calendari ng

"Clint" wrote in message
...

It shouldn't matter... this is what Microsoft does not seem to understand.
All day is just that all day. People do not make all day events on their
calendar to represent a 24 hour event, but rather events without specified
times. Anniversaries - Birthdays - Etc. I happen to use all day events
alot
because my business requires a number of things be completed on certain
days,
but not a specific times.

While all day events may not work as you want them to, they do work correctly.
Isn't "all-day" and "24 hours" exactly the same thing? Anywhere you go on the
earth, a day is 24 hours long. If you're in New York at noon on December 24
and call your friend in Canberra, it _is_ appropriate to wish him "Merry
Christmas" because for him, it IS Christmas. His "all-day event" is NOT the
same as yours. All-day events ARE 24 hour time slots, whether you like that
or not.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

But I am not looking at my friends calendar I am looking at mine. Most
people do not schedule and all day event on the calendar to represent a 24
hour event. They use it to represent an event that occurs or needs to occur
that day but without a set time.

I've read through these boards and you seem to be the only one who think it
works correctly. Is there anyone else out there who thinks it is fine the
way it is. Or do people think Microsoft needs to make a change?

"Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

"Clint" wrote in message
...

It shouldn't matter... this is what Microsoft does not seem to understand.
All day is just that all day. People do not make all day events on their
calendar to represent a 24 hour event, but rather events without specified
times. Anniversaries - Birthdays - Etc. I happen to use all day events
alot
because my business requires a number of things be completed on certain
days,
but not a specific times.

While all day events may not work as you want them to, they do work correctly.
Isn't "all-day" and "24 hours" exactly the same thing? Anywhere you go on the
earth, a day is 24 hours long. If you're in New York at noon on December 24
and call your friend in Canberra, it _is_ appropriate to wish him "Merry
Christmas" because for him, it IS Christmas. His "all-day event" is NOT the
same as yours. All-day events ARE 24 hour time slots, whether you like that
or not.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

"Clint" wrote in message
...

But I am not looking at my friends calendar I am looking at mine. Most
people do not schedule and all day event on the calendar to represent a 24
hour event. They use it to represent an event that occurs or needs to occur
that day but without a set time.

Paper calendars have no connection with time zones. Outlook's Calendar,
however, is inextricably linked with time zones. It ALWAYS operates un UTC
internally and then uses the local time zone to present a picture to you.
When you move your PC to a different time zone, you're the one modifying the
24 hour period a day represents. Outlook doesn't do it, you do. Outlook's
behavior is based on real-world calednar behavior, not your sliding time zone
personal assumptions.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

"Clint" wrote in message
...

Microsoft Outlook handles time zone changes for all day events incorrectly.
It is time for MS to stop claiming it operates the way it is supposed to and
admit they made a mistake - AND FIX IT!!!!!

What do you consider to be incorrect?
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]