I am having a problem getting the message size to display properly when
connecting to certain usenet servers. The operation is acceptable in all
other aspects.

news:news.cadsoft.de (free access) group 'eagle.suggest.eng' (for example)
is reading initially with message size of zero until the message is opened.
Then the size updates to a correct number.

news:news.teranews.com (needs name and password) group
'alt.binaries.schematics.electronic' (for example) seems to read message
size only as the main article, not including the size of any attachments
(reads 1K even for a message with a 50K attachment).

news:news.microsoft.com group
'microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlook express' does read message
size properly.

XP Pro SP2.



Is there anything I can do locally to resolve this issue? Tech service at
Teranews claims that they are able to correctly read the message size.

Thank You,
Oppie

Go to View | Columns and choose Lines. That is a better estimate of size
than the Size field.

steve

"Oppie" wrote in message
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I am having a problem getting the message size to display properly when
connecting to certain usenet servers. The operation is acceptable in all
other aspects.

news:news.cadsoft.de (free access) group 'eagle.suggest.eng' (for example)
is reading initially with message size of zero until the message is
opened. Then the size updates to a correct number.

news:news.teranews.com (needs name and password) group
'alt.binaries.schematics.electronic' (for example) seems to read message
size only as the main article, not including the size of any attachments
(reads 1K even for a message with a 50K attachment).

news:news.microsoft.com group
'microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlook express' does read
message size properly.

XP Pro SP2.



Is there anything I can do locally to resolve this issue? Tech service at
Teranews claims that they are able to correctly read the message size.

Thank You,
Oppie

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I am having a problem getting the message size to display properly
when connecting to certain usenet servers. The operation is
acceptable in all other aspects.

news:news.cadsoft.de (free access) group 'eagle.suggest.eng' (for
example) is reading initially with message size of zero until the
message is opened. Then the size updates to a correct number.

news:news.teranews.com (needs name and password) group
'alt.binaries.schematics.electronic' (for example) seems to read
message size only as the main article, not including the size of any
attachments (reads 1K even for a message with a 50K attachment).

news:news.microsoft.com group
'microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlook express' does read
message size properly.

XP Pro SP2.



Is there anything I can do locally to resolve this issue? Tech
service at Teranews claims that they are able to correctly read the
message size.
Thank You,
Oppie

I'll start with I have no idea...

Does the message size correct itself after you've downloaded the message? In
other words - if it looked like it was 1kb and it turned out to be 52kb then
after you have highlighted the message and it has downloaded does it then
appear to be a full 52kb in the size field? I figure that might help someone
else debug it because I don't recall actually seeing that before?

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"At present I am, as you know, fairly busy, but I propose to devote my
declining years to the composition of a textbook which shall focus the
whole art of detection into one volume." - Sherlock Holmes

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In ,
Oppie had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

I am having a problem getting the message size to display properly
when connecting to certain usenet servers. The operation is
acceptable in all other aspects.

news:news.cadsoft.de (free access) group 'eagle.suggest.eng' (for
example) is reading initially with message size of zero until the
message is opened. Then the size updates to a correct number.

news:news.teranews.com (needs name and password) group
'alt.binaries.schematics.electronic' (for example) seems to read
message size only as the main article, not including the size of any
attachments (reads 1K even for a message with a 50K attachment).

news:news.microsoft.com group
'microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlook express' does read
message size properly.

XP Pro SP2.



Is there anything I can do locally to resolve this issue? Tech
service at Teranews claims that they are able to correctly read the
message size.
Thank You,
Oppie

I'll start with I have no idea...

Does the message size correct itself after you've downloaded the message?
In other words - if it looked like it was 1kb and it turned out to be 52kb
then after you have highlighted the message and it has downloaded does it
then appear to be a full 52kb in the size field? I figure that might help
someone else debug it because I don't recall actually seeing that before?


Steve,

Yes, Changing from the size (which appears to be computed) to lines (which
is embedded in the header directly) gives me back the functionality I
needed. Good quick fix - thanks

Galen,

The only server that I saw the size go from zero to a valid size was on
cadsoft.de
On Teranews (which I subscribe to since my office ISP does not support
usenet) this is my primary usenet server and is not supporting correct
message size since a 'server upgrade' last year. We have been a polite
finger pointing mode for a while now.

Thanks all,
Oppie

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In ,
Oppie had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

I am having a problem getting the message size to display properly
when connecting to certain usenet servers. The operation is
acceptable in all other aspects.

news:news.cadsoft.de (free access) group 'eagle.suggest.eng' (for
example) is reading initially with message size of zero until the
message is opened. Then the size updates to a correct number.

news:news.teranews.com (needs name and password) group
'alt.binaries.schematics.electronic' (for example) seems to read
message size only as the main article, not including the size of any
attachments (reads 1K even for a message with a 50K attachment).

news:news.microsoft.com group
'microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlook express' does read
message size properly.

XP Pro SP2.



Is there anything I can do locally to resolve this issue? Tech
service at Teranews claims that they are able to correctly read the
message size.
Thank You,
Oppie

I'll start with I have no idea...

Does the message size correct itself after you've downloaded the message?
In other words - if it looked like it was 1kb and it turned out to be 52kb
then after you have highlighted the message and it has downloaded does it
then appear to be a full 52kb in the size field? I figure that might help
someone else debug it because I don't recall actually seeing that before?


Can you tell me what information OE uses to calculate the 'Size' of the
message? I would like to see if the message size discrepancy with teranews
can still be fixed. Until then, I'm going to use message lines as an
indicator of message size.

TIA - Oppie

In ,
Oppie had this to say:

Can you tell me what information OE uses to calculate the 'Size' of
the message? I would like to see if the message size discrepancy with
teranews can still be fixed. Until then, I'm going to use message
lines as an indicator of message size.

TIA - Oppie

That'd be better directed towards Steve. My understanding is that it's a
calculation of the message itself and any attachments but that's just, well,
wrong... I'm guessing there is far more to it as it may even be telling you
the size it will take on disk for instance. If you've ever been bored (it
happens to me a lot so I'm guessing you might have been as well) you'll find
emails with a 12k attachment, a few k of text, and a dozen lines of headers
and OE will claim it's 35 kb in size. So, how it reaches that figure is
beyond me.

I don't know what server software is being used by the NNTP server you speak
of but it could be a bug involved in that easily enough. I did a quick check
on LocalNet's NNTP service and SpamCop's and didn't find any differences.
The sizes show up (with the size column) here without any problems and
appears to be generally correct.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"At present I am, as you know, fairly busy, but I propose to devote my
declining years to the composition of a textbook which shall focus the
whole art of detection into one volume." - Sherlock Holmes

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Can you tell me what information OE uses to calculate the 'Size' of
the message? I would like to see if the message size discrepancy with
teranews can still be fixed. Until then, I'm going to use message
lines as an indicator of message size.

TIA - Oppie

OE just reports the information the server supplies. The fault is at the
server, not on your machine. Lines will be more accurate.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
"Anyone who prefers security over freedom deserves neither."