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  #21  
Old May 30th 06, 01:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
dirtycar74
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Posts: 21
Default I'm an iD10T, I know, but now I need to recover from it...

In this message I see no attached note from Mr. Cochran - should I be looking
elsewhere, such as in my E-mail?

-Dusty


"Jim Pickering" wrote:

That was a typo on my part. I meant to type DBXpress which is what you said
you had purchased. I'm attaching a note from Steve Cochran for your added
info, so please review his recommendations.

--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.

"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
I used the Disk Management console (again, a screen capture is viewable at
the URL below) and deleted the Logical drive that used to be labeled as
"H:\".

I purchased DBXpress, as stated above, Not DBXtract. They are, in fact,
separate programs.

This seems to be turning into a tail-chase for me. So far none of the
answers are complete enough to use from start-to-finish, and/or make
reference to separate programs entirely, which, in turn, are separate
purchases. I don't want yet another cost added to this. IF retrieval of
the
data can't be done, simply say so, as I am willing to "bite the bullet"
and
start with a fresh DBX store, but only if it absolutely cannot be done in
any
other way.

Please don't think I doubt your technical prowess in this matter, but it
does get confusing when you switch between referencing one program to
another
mid-stream.

-Dusty
dirtycar74@hotmail

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  #22  
Old May 30th 06, 03:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Jim Pickering
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Posts: 653
Default I'm an iD10T, I know, but now I need to recover from it...

Here is the information sent as text from the headers of his message. If
you need further clarification, the email address below is the correct one
to contact him at for help.

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To: "dirtycar74"
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Subject: I'm an iD10T, I know, but now I need to recover from it...
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Hi,

You need to repartition the space and format it and assign it a drive letter
so Windows can recognize it with WinExplorer. Then run the extract from
disk function on that drive. Don't check the recover mode option and set
the output to a different drive letter.

cheers,

steve

--
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https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
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"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
In this message I see no attached note from Mr. Cochran - should I be
looking
elsewhere, such as in my E-mail?

-Dusty


"Jim Pickering" wrote:

That was a typo on my part. I meant to type DBXpress which is what you
said
you had purchased. I'm attaching a note from Steve Cochran for your
added
info, so please review his recommendations.

--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.

"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
I used the Disk Management console (again, a screen capture is viewable
at
the URL below) and deleted the Logical drive that used to be labeled as
"H:\".

I purchased DBXpress, as stated above, Not DBXtract. They are, in
fact,
separate programs.

This seems to be turning into a tail-chase for me. So far none of the
answers are complete enough to use from start-to-finish, and/or make
reference to separate programs entirely, which, in turn, are separate
purchases. I don't want yet another cost added to this. IF retrieval
of
the
data can't be done, simply say so, as I am willing to "bite the bullet"
and
start with a fresh DBX store, but only if it absolutely cannot be done
in
any
other way.

Please don't think I doubt your technical prowess in this matter, but
it
does get confusing when you switch between referencing one program to
another
mid-stream.

-Dusty
dirtycar74@hotmail


  #23  
Old May 30th 06, 03:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
databaseben
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Posts: 2
Default I'm an iD10T, I know, but now I need to recover from it...

yeh, if you had originally formatted the drive using NTFS, recovery is highly
probable, even when you reinstall windows over it. WHen I had to reinstall
windows, i was able to gain access to the restore feature, where i then
restored that drive to a functional state i had. ALso, I used a program
called Acronis to recover a lost partition that had many valuable letters and
pictures. Fortunately, it worked. The problem I had was that I used
Partition Commander. Eventhough I had used it a number of times in the past,
it was uncompatible with my new pentium 4 and the damn program made a
disaster of my harddrive, partitions and my backup drive too.

"dirtycar74" wrote:

I know I'm an iD10T but that's neither here nor there... I was working late
the other night moving things around, making archives and deleting old stuff
and accidentally deleted the wrong logical drive; the one that housed my OE
store folders... Major OOOPS! Of course, now I can't even get OE6 to load
up so I can just start with a new store folder(s). I need help please -
where do I go from here? I don't think I can "un-delete" the logical drive,
but in case someone out there has a miracle, I haven't re-created a new
logical drive yet (left it unallocated for now in hopes it is some how
recoverable). I'm running XP Pro w/ SP2 and the latest updates. My machine
may be older, but it works darn it! I'd like to keep it that way, so only
serious replies please. Thanks!

  #24  
Old May 30th 06, 03:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
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Posts: 2,353
Default I'm an iD10T, I know, but now I need to recover from it...

Sorry, I replied via the fake email address in a link Jim sent me and not
via the NGs.

Any discussion of DBXpress by clients should be restricted to email between
me and the client, as this NG is not for support of 3rd party programs.

But as I indicated, you need to repartition the space where the dbx files
were (you don' t need to try and recovery the partition, just repartition
the space). Then format it and assign a drive letter. Then run DBXpress in
its extract from disk function and select that drive letter and do NOT check
recover mode. Then set the output to a different drive and click extract.
You should recover most if not all of the messages that were lost.

If you have further issues, then email me directly rather than posting here.

cheers,

steve

"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
In this message I see no attached note from Mr. Cochran - should I be
looking
elsewhere, such as in my E-mail?

-Dusty


"Jim Pickering" wrote:

That was a typo on my part. I meant to type DBXpress which is what you
said
you had purchased. I'm attaching a note from Steve Cochran for your
added
info, so please review his recommendations.

--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.

"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
I used the Disk Management console (again, a screen capture is viewable
at
the URL below) and deleted the Logical drive that used to be labeled as
"H:\".

I purchased DBXpress, as stated above, Not DBXtract. They are, in
fact,
separate programs.

This seems to be turning into a tail-chase for me. So far none of the
answers are complete enough to use from start-to-finish, and/or make
reference to separate programs entirely, which, in turn, are separate
purchases. I don't want yet another cost added to this. IF retrieval
of
the
data can't be done, simply say so, as I am willing to "bite the bullet"
and
start with a fresh DBX store, but only if it absolutely cannot be done
in
any
other way.

Please don't think I doubt your technical prowess in this matter, but
it
does get confusing when you switch between referencing one program to
another
mid-stream.

-Dusty
dirtycar74@hotmail


  #25  
Old May 30th 06, 03:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
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Posts: 2,353
Default I'm an iD10T, I know, but now I need to recover from it...

One of the wrinkles is that it screws up the time zone when its installed.
G

steve

"antioch" wrote in message
...
Hello Frank
Its nice to be able to help and return a favour to an MVP.
Vista - on a test machine I hope??????????????
If you have any probs don't forget there is a special newsgroup to
trouble-shoot ;-) ;-). No posting in this group please.
Hope you enjoy testing it. Give it hell so that all the wrinkles are
found by the time its offered to us 'clods' out here.
Rgds
Antioch


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message
...
"antioch" wrote in message
...
Hello Frank
I think your clock/date is a out a bit :-o
28/05/2006 22:36
Antioch


Thanks. I just installed Vista on that machine a few days ago and didn't
notice that the date was wrong.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
"Anyone who prefers security over freedom deserves neither."





  #26  
Old May 30th 06, 06:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
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Posts: 2,353
Default I'm an iD10T, I know, but now I need to recover from it...

You can format and remove partitions and DBXpress will still find the
messages, if the partitions are restored and reformatted.

steve

"databaseben" wrote in message
...
yeh, if you had originally formatted the drive using NTFS, recovery is
highly
probable, even when you reinstall windows over it. WHen I had to
reinstall
windows, i was able to gain access to the restore feature, where i then
restored that drive to a functional state i had. ALso, I used a program
called Acronis to recover a lost partition that had many valuable letters
and
pictures. Fortunately, it worked. The problem I had was that I used
Partition Commander. Eventhough I had used it a number of times in the
past,
it was uncompatible with my new pentium 4 and the damn program made a
disaster of my harddrive, partitions and my backup drive too.

"dirtycar74" wrote:

I know I'm an iD10T but that's neither here nor there... I was working
late
the other night moving things around, making archives and deleting old
stuff
and accidentally deleted the wrong logical drive; the one that housed my
OE
store folders... Major OOOPS! Of course, now I can't even get OE6 to
load
up so I can just start with a new store folder(s). I need help please -
where do I go from here? I don't think I can "un-delete" the logical
drive,
but in case someone out there has a miracle, I haven't re-created a new
logical drive yet (left it unallocated for now in hopes it is some how
recoverable). I'm running XP Pro w/ SP2 and the latest updates. My
machine
may be older, but it works darn it! I'd like to keep it that way, so
only
serious replies please. Thanks!


  #27  
Old May 31st 06, 01:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
dirtycar74
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 21
Default I'm an iD10T, I know, but now I need to recover from it...

As you probably recall, you have responded to my Internet Newsgroup thread
regarding my recent stupid mistake and my OE store folders and the loss of
functionality of my MSOE.

You stated that I should pursue further help direct from you via e-mail,
well here it is.

I did the following since last post to said thread:

1.) I re-created and formatted partition "H:\" as NTFS, as it was before;

2.) I ran the DBXpress tool, set to retrieve from Drive with input being
"H:\" and output being "Z:\EMAIL-TEMP", and did NOT select the "Recover Mode
for Deleted Items". The program ran and ran all night.

3.) Upon awakening this morning I go to check on it and it states that it is
finished. However, to my disbelief, there are no files in either location
that I can see, and I have (always have) set my view options to show all
files, whether they have hidden or system attributes.

4.) I made a screen-capture of the program and it is available for viewing
online at this URL:
http://tinyurl.com/mbegn
(of course, it is a capture of AFTER it is completed, and the program now
shows "File" as being the input, although I don't know why it would revert to
that, since, as stated before, I ran it with the option of "Drive"). I
notice the status window stating the results, but I have yet to see those
files anywhere; am I missing something here?

I am still somewhat afraid to attempt opening Outlook Express for fears that
any attempt to do so may further exasperate the problem at hand, if not
simply wipe out any chances I may still yet have at retrieval of this data.
I am grateful for your continued guidance and patience in this matter, and
now I think I simply just need to know where to go from here. I am using the
web-interface for HoTMaiL, so that I can still send and receive
communications, but as I believe I have stated before, most of my
communications have been in OE and some of the stored information is more
than five years old and data from that time-period is not replaceable. Your
answer to this e-mail is going to determine my next step(s). Thank you in
advance; you have already given me a glimmer of hope back in this
disaster-like situation.

Sincerely yours truly,

Dustin "Dusty" Studebaker
© 1974 - 2006 dirtycar74

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Sorry, I replied via the fake email address in a link Jim sent me and not
via the NGs.

Any discussion of DBXpress by clients should be restricted to email between
me and the client, as this NG is not for support of 3rd party programs.

But as I indicated, you need to repartition the space where the dbx files
were (you don' t need to try and recovery the partition, just repartition
the space). Then format it and assign a drive letter. Then run DBXpress in
its extract from disk function and select that drive letter and do NOT check
recover mode. Then set the output to a different drive and click extract.
You should recover most if not all of the messages that were lost.

If you have further issues, then email me directly rather than posting here.

cheers,

steve

"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
In this message I see no attached note from Mr. Cochran - should I be
looking
elsewhere, such as in my E-mail?

-Dusty


"Jim Pickering" wrote:

That was a typo on my part. I meant to type DBXpress which is what you
said
you had purchased. I'm attaching a note from Steve Cochran for your
added
info, so please review his recommendations.

--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.

"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
I used the Disk Management console (again, a screen capture is viewable
at
the URL below) and deleted the Logical drive that used to be labeled as
"H:\".

I purchased DBXpress, as stated above, Not DBXtract. They are, in
fact,
separate programs.

This seems to be turning into a tail-chase for me. So far none of the
answers are complete enough to use from start-to-finish, and/or make
reference to separate programs entirely, which, in turn, are separate
purchases. I don't want yet another cost added to this. IF retrieval
of
the
data can't be done, simply say so, as I am willing to "bite the bullet"
and
start with a fresh DBX store, but only if it absolutely cannot be done
in
any
other way.

Please don't think I doubt your technical prowess in this matter, but
it
does get confusing when you switch between referencing one program to
another
mid-stream.

-Dusty
dirtycar74@hotmail


  #28  
Old May 31st 06, 01:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
dirtycar74
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Posts: 21
Default I'm an iD10T, I know, but now I need to recover from it...

I'm doing this so that others in similar situation can be aware of what I had
to do to resolve it...
--
From: "Steve Cochran"
To: "Dusty Studebaker"
Subject: I am not sure how to continue...
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 13:31:38 -0400
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Hi Dusty,

It looks like you stuck the drive in the file path instead of having checked
the Drive mode, but maybe that's a bug. Check the directory where
DBXpress.exe is and see if perhaps the messages got stuck in there. Its says
it found some. Also check H and maybe it put them there, although it
shouldn't.

Also, replace your current exe with the attached after unzipping it and try
running it again. That's the newest version I'm working on.

Make sure you check Drive and select H.

cheers,

steve

--
(Steve sent an attachment with a new verson of th DBXpress.exe that is still
in development)

"dirtycar74" wrote:

As you probably recall, you have responded to my Internet Newsgroup thread
regarding my recent stupid mistake and my OE store folders and the loss of
functionality of my MSOE.

You stated that I should pursue further help direct from you via e-mail,
well here it is.

I did the following since last post to said thread:

1.) I re-created and formatted partition "H:\" as NTFS, as it was before;

2.) I ran the DBXpress tool, set to retrieve from Drive with input being
"H:\" and output being "Z:\EMAIL-TEMP", and did NOT select the "Recover Mode
for Deleted Items". The program ran and ran all night.

3.) Upon awakening this morning I go to check on it and it states that it is
finished. However, to my disbelief, there are no files in either location
that I can see, and I have (always have) set my view options to show all
files, whether they have hidden or system attributes.

4.) I made a screen-capture of the program and it is available for viewing
online at this URL:
http://tinyurl.com/mbegn
(of course, it is a capture of AFTER it is completed, and the program now
shows "File" as being the input, although I don't know why it would revert to
that, since, as stated before, I ran it with the option of "Drive"). I
notice the status window stating the results, but I have yet to see those
files anywhere; am I missing something here?

I am still somewhat afraid to attempt opening Outlook Express for fears that
any attempt to do so may further exasperate the problem at hand, if not
simply wipe out any chances I may still yet have at retrieval of this data.
I am grateful for your continued guidance and patience in this matter, and
now I think I simply just need to know where to go from here. I am using the
web-interface for HoTMaiL, so that I can still send and receive
communications, but as I believe I have stated before, most of my
communications have been in OE and some of the stored information is more
than five years old and data from that time-period is not replaceable. Your
answer to this e-mail is going to determine my next step(s). Thank you in
advance; you have already given me a glimmer of hope back in this
disaster-like situation.

Sincerely yours truly,

Dustin "Dusty" Studebaker
© 1974 - 2006 dirtycar74

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Sorry, I replied via the fake email address in a link Jim sent me and not
via the NGs.

Any discussion of DBXpress by clients should be restricted to email between
me and the client, as this NG is not for support of 3rd party programs.

But as I indicated, you need to repartition the space where the dbx files
were (you don' t need to try and recovery the partition, just repartition
the space). Then format it and assign a drive letter. Then run DBXpress in
its extract from disk function and select that drive letter and do NOT check
recover mode. Then set the output to a different drive and click extract.
You should recover most if not all of the messages that were lost.

If you have further issues, then email me directly rather than posting here.

cheers,

steve

"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
In this message I see no attached note from Mr. Cochran - should I be
looking
elsewhere, such as in my E-mail?

-Dusty


"Jim Pickering" wrote:

That was a typo on my part. I meant to type DBXpress which is what you
said
you had purchased. I'm attaching a note from Steve Cochran for your
added
info, so please review his recommendations.

--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.

"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
I used the Disk Management console (again, a screen capture is viewable
at
the URL below) and deleted the Logical drive that used to be labeled as
"H:\".

I purchased DBXpress, as stated above, Not DBXtract. They are, in
fact,
separate programs.

This seems to be turning into a tail-chase for me. So far none of the
answers are complete enough to use from start-to-finish, and/or make
reference to separate programs entirely, which, in turn, are separate
purchases. I don't want yet another cost added to this. IF retrieval
of
the
data can't be done, simply say so, as I am willing to "bite the bullet"
and
start with a fresh DBX store, but only if it absolutely cannot be done
in
any
other way.

Please don't think I doubt your technical prowess in this matter, but
it
does get confusing when you switch between referencing one program to
another
mid-stream.

-Dusty
dirtycar74@hotmail


  #29  
Old May 31st 06, 01:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
dirtycar74
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Posts: 21
Default I'm an iD10T, I know, but now I need to recover from it...

Here's the rest of the e-mail correspondence that leads to the resolution:



Hey, you're a GENIUS - Messages are in the DBXpress folder -
%SYSTEMROOT%\Program%20Files\DBXpress\ !!! That was going to be my next step
if I hadn't heard from you - to search for all *.eml files to see if perhpas
they went somewhere they weren't supposed to... Thank You!!!

*bows* - I'm not worthy!

Thanks ever so much for putting up with me. It was WELL worth the USD$24 if
these can be re-integrated into OE. - Any pointers on how best to do THAT?

Sincerely yours truly,

Dustin "Dusty" Studebaker
© 1974 - 2006 dirtycar74

**To make a very long story short(er), I had to refer to the DBXpress help
file to see that all I had yet to do was use Windows Explorer and OE,
basically dragging the recovered messages into a new OE folder and voila!
they started importing... Mind you, some of the files were a bit fragged
(messed up and unuseable), but thankfully, nothing that I was really relying
on was destroyed, just minor junk...

To recap, if you ever run into this situation, DO NOT PANIC, let the answers
come to you as they may. I was fortunate enough to get over 95% of my items
without much hassle, once I found out the proper method(s) to do it. If Mr.
Cochran continues development with his tool (DBXpress), I highly recommend it
as a first-line of recovery. With some more development, it will,
undoubtedly, be unparallelled (sp?), and Microsoft could learn a thing or two
from the methods he has employed for other data recovery tools that could be
designed into the Windows OS itself.

This issue is now CLOSED with SUCCESS. THank you to everyone who responded,
with a gracious thanks to both Mr. Pickering and Mr. Cochran. They truly
deserve more than a simple "MVP" badge.

-Dusty

Sacramento, CA.

"dirtycar74" wrote:

I'm doing this so that others in similar situation can be aware of what I had
to do to resolve it...
--
From: "Steve Cochran"
To: "Dusty Studebaker"
Subject: I am not sure how to continue...
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 13:31:38 -0400
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Hi Dusty,

It looks like you stuck the drive in the file path instead of having checked
the Drive mode, but maybe that's a bug. Check the directory where
DBXpress.exe is and see if perhaps the messages got stuck in there. Its says
it found some. Also check H and maybe it put them there, although it
shouldn't.

Also, replace your current exe with the attached after unzipping it and try
running it again. That's the newest version I'm working on.

Make sure you check Drive and select H.

cheers,

steve

--
(Steve sent an attachment with a new verson of th DBXpress.exe that is still
in development)

"dirtycar74" wrote:

As you probably recall, you have responded to my Internet Newsgroup thread
regarding my recent stupid mistake and my OE store folders and the loss of
functionality of my MSOE.

You stated that I should pursue further help direct from you via e-mail,
well here it is.

I did the following since last post to said thread:

1.) I re-created and formatted partition "H:\" as NTFS, as it was before;

2.) I ran the DBXpress tool, set to retrieve from Drive with input being
"H:\" and output being "Z:\EMAIL-TEMP", and did NOT select the "Recover Mode
for Deleted Items". The program ran and ran all night.

3.) Upon awakening this morning I go to check on it and it states that it is
finished. However, to my disbelief, there are no files in either location
that I can see, and I have (always have) set my view options to show all
files, whether they have hidden or system attributes.

4.) I made a screen-capture of the program and it is available for viewing
online at this URL:
http://tinyurl.com/mbegn
(of course, it is a capture of AFTER it is completed, and the program now
shows "File" as being the input, although I don't know why it would revert to
that, since, as stated before, I ran it with the option of "Drive"). I
notice the status window stating the results, but I have yet to see those
files anywhere; am I missing something here?

I am still somewhat afraid to attempt opening Outlook Express for fears that
any attempt to do so may further exasperate the problem at hand, if not
simply wipe out any chances I may still yet have at retrieval of this data.
I am grateful for your continued guidance and patience in this matter, and
now I think I simply just need to know where to go from here. I am using the
web-interface for HoTMaiL, so that I can still send and receive
communications, but as I believe I have stated before, most of my
communications have been in OE and some of the stored information is more
than five years old and data from that time-period is not replaceable. Your
answer to this e-mail is going to determine my next step(s). Thank you in
advance; you have already given me a glimmer of hope back in this
disaster-like situation.

Sincerely yours truly,

Dustin "Dusty" Studebaker
© 1974 - 2006 dirtycar74

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Sorry, I replied via the fake email address in a link Jim sent me and not
via the NGs.

Any discussion of DBXpress by clients should be restricted to email between
me and the client, as this NG is not for support of 3rd party programs.

But as I indicated, you need to repartition the space where the dbx files
were (you don' t need to try and recovery the partition, just repartition
the space). Then format it and assign a drive letter. Then run DBXpress in
its extract from disk function and select that drive letter and do NOT check
recover mode. Then set the output to a different drive and click extract.
You should recover most if not all of the messages that were lost.

If you have further issues, then email me directly rather than posting here.

cheers,

steve

"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
In this message I see no attached note from Mr. Cochran - should I be
looking
elsewhere, such as in my E-mail?

-Dusty


"Jim Pickering" wrote:

That was a typo on my part. I meant to type DBXpress which is what you
said
you had purchased. I'm attaching a note from Steve Cochran for your
added
info, so please review his recommendations.

--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.

"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
I used the Disk Management console (again, a screen capture is viewable
at
the URL below) and deleted the Logical drive that used to be labeled as
"H:\".

I purchased DBXpress, as stated above, Not DBXtract. They are, in
fact,
separate programs.

This seems to be turning into a tail-chase for me. So far none of the
answers are complete enough to use from start-to-finish, and/or make
reference to separate programs entirely, which, in turn, are separate
purchases. I don't want yet another cost added to this. IF retrieval
of
the
data can't be done, simply say so, as I am willing to "bite the bullet"
and
start with a fresh DBX store, but only if it absolutely cannot be done
in
any
other way.

Please don't think I doubt your technical prowess in this matter, but
it
does get confusing when you switch between referencing one program to
another
mid-stream.

-Dusty
dirtycar74@hotmail

  #30  
Old May 31st 06, 03:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Jim Pickering
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 653
Default I'm an iD10T, I know, but now I need to recover from it...

Select the desired .eml files and drag/drop them into whatever folder you've
created in Outlook Express to store them. Please do not drag/drop them to
the Inbox, but create as many new local folders as you desire to contain
them within Outlook Express. Nice to hear that all worked.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.


"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
Here's the rest of the e-mail correspondence that leads to the resolution:



Hey, you're a GENIUS - Messages are in the DBXpress folder -
%SYSTEMROOT%\Program%20Files\DBXpress\ !!! That was going to be my next
step
if I hadn't heard from you - to search for all *.eml files to see if
perhpas
they went somewhere they weren't supposed to... Thank You!!!

*bows* - I'm not worthy!

Thanks ever so much for putting up with me. It was WELL worth the USD$24
if
these can be re-integrated into OE. - Any pointers on how best to do THAT?

Sincerely yours truly,

Dustin "Dusty" Studebaker
© 1974 - 2006 dirtycar74

**To make a very long story short(er), I had to refer to the DBXpress help
file to see that all I had yet to do was use Windows Explorer and OE,
basically dragging the recovered messages into a new OE folder and voila!
they started importing... Mind you, some of the files were a bit fragged
(messed up and unuseable), but thankfully, nothing that I was really
relying
on was destroyed, just minor junk...

To recap, if you ever run into this situation, DO NOT PANIC, let the
answers
come to you as they may. I was fortunate enough to get over 95% of my
items
without much hassle, once I found out the proper method(s) to do it. If
Mr.
Cochran continues development with his tool (DBXpress), I highly recommend
it
as a first-line of recovery. With some more development, it will,
undoubtedly, be unparallelled (sp?), and Microsoft could learn a thing or
two
from the methods he has employed for other data recovery tools that could
be
designed into the Windows OS itself.

This issue is now CLOSED with SUCCESS. THank you to everyone who
responded,
with a gracious thanks to both Mr. Pickering and Mr. Cochran. They truly
deserve more than a simple "MVP" badge.

-Dusty

Sacramento, CA.

"dirtycar74" wrote:

I'm doing this so that others in similar situation can be aware of what I
had
to do to resolve it...
--
From: "Steve Cochran"
To: "Dusty Studebaker"
Subject: I am not sure how to continue...
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 13:31:38 -0400
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Hi Dusty,

It looks like you stuck the drive in the file path instead of having
checked
the Drive mode, but maybe that's a bug. Check the directory where
DBXpress.exe is and see if perhaps the messages got stuck in there. Its
says
it found some. Also check H and maybe it put them there, although it
shouldn't.

Also, replace your current exe with the attached after unzipping it and
try
running it again. That's the newest version I'm working on.

Make sure you check Drive and select H.

cheers,

steve

--
(Steve sent an attachment with a new verson of th DBXpress.exe that is
still
in development)

"dirtycar74" wrote:

As you probably recall, you have responded to my Internet Newsgroup
thread
regarding my recent stupid mistake and my OE store folders and the loss
of
functionality of my MSOE.

You stated that I should pursue further help direct from you via
e-mail,
well here it is.

I did the following since last post to said thread:

1.) I re-created and formatted partition "H:\" as NTFS, as it was
before;

2.) I ran the DBXpress tool, set to retrieve from Drive with input
being
"H:\" and output being "Z:\EMAIL-TEMP", and did NOT select the "Recover
Mode
for Deleted Items". The program ran and ran all night.

3.) Upon awakening this morning I go to check on it and it states that
it is
finished. However, to my disbelief, there are no files in either
location
that I can see, and I have (always have) set my view options to show
all
files, whether they have hidden or system attributes.

4.) I made a screen-capture of the program and it is available for
viewing
online at this URL:
http://tinyurl.com/mbegn
(of course, it is a capture of AFTER it is completed, and the program
now
shows "File" as being the input, although I don't know why it would
revert to
that, since, as stated before, I ran it with the option of "Drive"). I
notice the status window stating the results, but I have yet to see
those
files anywhere; am I missing something here?

I am still somewhat afraid to attempt opening Outlook Express for fears
that
any attempt to do so may further exasperate the problem at hand, if not
simply wipe out any chances I may still yet have at retrieval of this
data.
I am grateful for your continued guidance and patience in this matter,
and
now I think I simply just need to know where to go from here. I am
using the
web-interface for HoTMaiL, so that I can still send and receive
communications, but as I believe I have stated before, most of my
communications have been in OE and some of the stored information is
more
than five years old and data from that time-period is not replaceable.
Your
answer to this e-mail is going to determine my next step(s). Thank you
in
advance; you have already given me a glimmer of hope back in this
disaster-like situation.

Sincerely yours truly,

Dustin "Dusty" Studebaker
© 1974 - 2006 dirtycar74

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Sorry, I replied via the fake email address in a link Jim sent me and
not
via the NGs.

Any discussion of DBXpress by clients should be restricted to email
between
me and the client, as this NG is not for support of 3rd party
programs.

But as I indicated, you need to repartition the space where the dbx
files
were (you don' t need to try and recovery the partition, just
repartition
the space). Then format it and assign a drive letter. Then run
DBXpress in
its extract from disk function and select that drive letter and do
NOT check
recover mode. Then set the output to a different drive and click
extract.
You should recover most if not all of the messages that were lost.

If you have further issues, then email me directly rather than
posting here.

cheers,

steve

"dirtycar74" wrote in message
...
In this message I see no attached note from Mr. Cochran - should I
be
looking
elsewhere, such as in my E-mail?

-Dusty


"Jim Pickering" wrote:

That was a typo on my part. I meant to type DBXpress which is
what you
said
you had purchased. I'm attaching a note from Steve Cochran for
your
added
info, so please review his recommendations.

--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
helped.

"dirtycar74" wrote in
message
...
I used the Disk Management console (again, a screen capture is
viewable
at
the URL below) and deleted the Logical drive that used to be
labeled as
"H:\".

I purchased DBXpress, as stated above, Not DBXtract. They are,
in
fact,
separate programs.

This seems to be turning into a tail-chase for me. So far none
of the
answers are complete enough to use from start-to-finish, and/or
make
reference to separate programs entirely, which, in turn, are
separate
purchases. I don't want yet another cost added to this. IF
retrieval
of
the
data can't be done, simply say so, as I am willing to "bite the
bullet"
and
start with a fresh DBX store, but only if it absolutely cannot
be done
in
any
other way.

Please don't think I doubt your technical prowess in this
matter, but
it
does get confusing when you switch between referencing one
program to
another
mid-stream.

-Dusty
dirtycar74@hotmail


 




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