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More new info... the other user has informed me that just before things
started to go wrong, OE compacted the files/folders. "Kuay Tim" wrote: Hi Curly, What is the size of the missing folder DBX file? It should be larger than about 137KB -- much larger if there are any number of messages included. Indications are the old folder.dbx file may be empty. If the missing folder.dbx files are of appropriate size you could try importing the folders by first moving the folder.dbx files and a copy of Folders.dbx to a desktop folder (Mail Backup). Do not leave a copy of the folder.dbx files in the OE message store folder. Instead of using search the store folder can be opened directly. Each identity has its own store folder. a.. In Outlook Express click on Tools, Options, Maintenance tab...Store Folder. b.. Place the cursor at the left of the text of the path to the folder. c.. Drag the cursor to the right until the text scrolls to the end. d.. Right-click on the text and choose Copy. e.. In the Start, Run box right-click Paste. Click OK to open the store folder. f.. Close Outlook Express before working with the message store files. Using Keyboard Shortcuts for Transfer of the Folder Path Courtesy of: Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express An even easier method when opening that page is to use the Tab to highlight the folder location, then Ctrl+C and close OE, then use Start/Run and Ctrl+V. Same caveat about hidden files applies but can be easily modified in Explorer by using Tools/Folder Options. Also see: OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express Data http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;270670 -- Tim K. aka Kuay Tim MS-MVP - Outlook Express Lynnwood, WA * "Curly" wrote in message ... Ok - tried that, but no luck. I copied a message from the Inbox into the new "duplicate" folder and verified it was in there. When I copied the old .dbx file over the new one, the new folder "lost" the message and was empty. (I only have the one identity, so that isn't an issue.) What next? "Bruce Hagen" wrote: 1: Make sure you didn't switch to another identity. 2: Since you understand the Message Store, try this: In Windows Explorer, click on the file and drag it to the Desktop. Open OE and create a folder with the *exact* same name as the one on your desktop. ***Copy a message from any folder to the new one. You MUST do this.*** Close OE. Go back to Windows Explorer and Click Desktop and drag the file from the Desktop to the OE store folder that you clicked on to reveal the .dbx files. Prompt - "Do you want to overwrite......."? Click Yes. What you may have been lacking in your attempts, was the *dummy* message that had to be in the newly created folder. -- Bruce Hagen MS MVP - Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Curly" wrote in message ... I'm not sure what happened, but I cannot access several of my local folders. They are not listed on the left side of OE under folders anymore. However, they are still in the Store Folder. I have tried to create new folders in the same names and then copy the existing folders into them, but it does not work. The folder is listed on the lefthand side, but is empty. Somehow, OE is not "seeing" what is in the Store Folder. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. |
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"Curly" wrote in message
... More new info... the other user has informed me that just before things started to go wrong, OE compacted the files/folders. Go to Help | About. What is the version number for directdb.dll? (e.g. 6.00.2900.2869) -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM Please reply in newsgroup. |
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Hi Curly,
Here is something to try. Create a new "Test" folder in Outlook Express Drag one message into the folder Close and reopen OE Next... Create another (temporary) desktop folder -- it might be named Mail Test. Copy (from the OE message store folder) the files "Test.dbx" and "Folders.dbx". Try importing the selected "Test" folder. Are there now two copies of the message in the OE Test folder? If successful... Move a copy of DBX file you're trying to restore into the Mail Test folder. Delete the Test.dbx file Rename the file you want restored to Test.dbx Try importing to see if the messages go to the OE Test folder. -- Tim K. aka Kuay Tim MS-MVP - Outlook Express Lynnwood, WA * "Curly" wrote in message ... More new info... the other user has informed me that just before things started to go wrong, OE compacted the files/folders. "Kuay Tim" wrote: Hi Curly, What is the size of the missing folder DBX file? It should be larger than about 137KB -- much larger if there are any number of messages included. Indications are the old folder.dbx file may be empty. If the missing folder.dbx files are of appropriate size you could try importing the folders by first moving the folder.dbx files and a copy of Folders.dbx to a desktop folder (Mail Backup). Do not leave a copy of the folder.dbx files in the OE message store folder. Instead of using search the store folder can be opened directly. Each identity has its own store folder. a.. In Outlook Express click on Tools, Options, Maintenance tab...Store Folder. b.. Place the cursor at the left of the text of the path to the folder. c.. Drag the cursor to the right until the text scrolls to the end. d.. Right-click on the text and choose Copy. e.. In the Start, Run box right-click Paste. Click OK to open the store folder. f.. Close Outlook Express before working with the message store files. Using Keyboard Shortcuts for Transfer of the Folder Path Courtesy of: Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express An even easier method when opening that page is to use the Tab to highlight the folder location, then Ctrl+C and close OE, then use Start/Run and Ctrl+V. Same caveat about hidden files applies but can be easily modified in Explorer by using Tools/Folder Options. Also see: OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express Data http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;270670 -- Tim K. aka Kuay Tim MS-MVP - Outlook Express Lynnwood, WA * "Curly" wrote in message ... Ok - tried that, but no luck. I copied a message from the Inbox into the new "duplicate" folder and verified it was in there. When I copied the old .dbx file over the new one, the new folder "lost" the message and was empty. (I only have the one identity, so that isn't an issue.) What next? "Bruce Hagen" wrote: 1: Make sure you didn't switch to another identity. 2: Since you understand the Message Store, try this: In Windows Explorer, click on the file and drag it to the Desktop. Open OE and create a folder with the *exact* same name as the one on your desktop. ***Copy a message from any folder to the new one. You MUST do this.*** Close OE. Go back to Windows Explorer and Click Desktop and drag the file from the Desktop to the OE store folder that you clicked on to reveal the .dbx files. Prompt - "Do you want to overwrite......."? Click Yes. What you may have been lacking in your attempts, was the *dummy* message that had to be in the newly created folder. -- Bruce Hagen MS MVP - Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Curly" wrote in message ... I'm not sure what happened, but I cannot access several of my local folders. They are not listed on the left side of OE under folders anymore. However, they are still in the Store Folder. I have tried to create new folders in the same names and then copy the existing folders into them, but it does not work. The folder is listed on the lefthand side, but is empty. Somehow, OE is not "seeing" what is in the Store Folder. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. |
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If this happened while compacting was in progress, DBXpress run in disk mod
is your only chance of recovery. *Canned* reply for this problem: The two most common reasons for what you describe is disruption of the compacting process, (never touch anything until it's finished), and bloated folders. More on that below. Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?: http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact Why Mail Disappears: http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone About File Corruption: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx Recovery tool: DBXpress run in Disk Mode is the best chance to recover messages: http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx And see: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4 A general warning if you don't want to lose your messages in the futu Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible. And backup often. Backup and Resto http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/ http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx -- Bruce Hagen MS MVP - Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Curly" wrote in message ... More new info... the other user has informed me that just before things started to go wrong, OE compacted the files/folders. "Kuay Tim" wrote: Hi Curly, What is the size of the missing folder DBX file? It should be larger than about 137KB -- much larger if there are any number of messages included. Indications are the old folder.dbx file may be empty. If the missing folder.dbx files are of appropriate size you could try importing the folders by first moving the folder.dbx files and a copy of Folders.dbx to a desktop folder (Mail Backup). Do not leave a copy of the folder.dbx files in the OE message store folder. Instead of using search the store folder can be opened directly. Each identity has its own store folder. a.. In Outlook Express click on Tools, Options, Maintenance tab...Store Folder. b.. Place the cursor at the left of the text of the path to the folder. c.. Drag the cursor to the right until the text scrolls to the end. d.. Right-click on the text and choose Copy. e.. In the Start, Run box right-click Paste. Click OK to open the store folder. f.. Close Outlook Express before working with the message store files. Using Keyboard Shortcuts for Transfer of the Folder Path Courtesy of: Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express An even easier method when opening that page is to use the Tab to highlight the folder location, then Ctrl+C and close OE, then use Start/Run and Ctrl+V. Same caveat about hidden files applies but can be easily modified in Explorer by using Tools/Folder Options. Also see: OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express Data http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;270670 -- Tim K. aka Kuay Tim MS-MVP - Outlook Express Lynnwood, WA * "Curly" wrote in message ... Ok - tried that, but no luck. I copied a message from the Inbox into the new "duplicate" folder and verified it was in there. When I copied the old .dbx file over the new one, the new folder "lost" the message and was empty. (I only have the one identity, so that isn't an issue.) What next? "Bruce Hagen" wrote: 1: Make sure you didn't switch to another identity. 2: Since you understand the Message Store, try this: In Windows Explorer, click on the file and drag it to the Desktop. Open OE and create a folder with the *exact* same name as the one on your desktop. ***Copy a message from any folder to the new one. You MUST do this.*** Close OE. Go back to Windows Explorer and Click Desktop and drag the file from the Desktop to the OE store folder that you clicked on to reveal the .dbx files. Prompt - "Do you want to overwrite......."? Click Yes. What you may have been lacking in your attempts, was the *dummy* message that had to be in the newly created folder. -- Bruce Hagen MS MVP - Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "Curly" wrote in message ... I'm not sure what happened, but I cannot access several of my local folders. They are not listed on the left side of OE under folders anymore. However, they are still in the Store Folder. I have tried to create new folders in the same names and then copy the existing folders into them, but it does not work. The folder is listed on the lefthand side, but is empty. Somehow, OE is not "seeing" what is in the Store Folder. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. |
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"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
... If this happened while compacting was in progress, DBXpress run in disk mod is your only chance of recovery. With the latest update for OE (which you have), before compacting a folder it copies it to the Recycle Bin with a BAK extension. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM Please reply in newsgroup. |
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![]() "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM" wrote in message ... "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... If this happened while compacting was in progress, DBXpress run in disk mod is your only chance of recovery. With the latest update for OE (which you have), before compacting a folder it copies it to the Recycle Bin with a BAK extension. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM Please reply in newsgroup. Darn. Gotta get used to that! Has MS released any articles on the correct way to restore from the Bin? -- Bruce Hagen MS MVP - Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ |
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"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
... "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM" wrote in message ... With the latest update for OE (which you have), before compacting a folder it copies it to the Recycle Bin with a BAK extension. Darn. Gotta get used to that! Has MS released any articles on the correct way to restore from the Bin? -- Bruce Hagen MS MVP - Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ I don't think so, but I see several ways: 1. The easiest way is to close OE, go to the message store and delete the DBX file for that folder. Then go to the Recycle Bin and restore the BAK file. Go bact to the message store and rename the BAK file to a DBX file. Then open OE. 2. If the folder has new messages that you want to keep, close OE. Restore the BAK file. Go to the store folder and move the new DBX file to an empty Windows folder. Rename the BAK file to a DBX file. Run DBXtract on the moved DBX file, Open OE and drag the restored EML files from the Windows folder to the restored folder in the Folder List. I'm sure you can think of three or four other approaches. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM Please reply in newsgroup. |
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Thanks for all of your input. After trying all of your suggestions and
coming up empty (literally), I resorted to DBXpress. It went through its extracting process and indicated there were 391 messages that were sent to their new output directories. However, those directories were empty when I went to transfer the contents back into OE. Any more suggestions? "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM" wrote: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM" wrote in message ... With the latest update for OE (which you have), before compacting a folder it copies it to the Recycle Bin with a BAK extension. Darn. Gotta get used to that! Has MS released any articles on the correct way to restore from the Bin? -- Bruce Hagen MS MVP - Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ I don't think so, but I see several ways: 1. The easiest way is to close OE, go to the message store and delete the DBX file for that folder. Then go to the Recycle Bin and restore the BAK file. Go bact to the message store and rename the BAK file to a DBX file. Then open OE. 2. If the folder has new messages that you want to keep, close OE. Restore the BAK file. Go to the store folder and move the new DBX file to an empty Windows folder. Rename the BAK file to a DBX file. Run DBXtract on the moved DBX file, Open OE and drag the restored EML files from the Windows folder to the restored folder in the Folder List. I'm sure you can think of three or four other approaches. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM Please reply in newsgroup. |
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It doesn't put them in OE. It puts them in the output directory you chose
on the first page. I suggest making a new, empty Windows folder (directory) for the output. The messages can be dragged from a Windows folder back into a folder in OE's Folder List. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM "Anyone who prefers security over freedom deserves neither." "Curly" wrote in message ... Thanks for all of your input. After trying all of your suggestions and coming up empty (literally), I resorted to DBXpress. It went through its extracting process and indicated there were 391 messages that were sent to their new output directories. However, those directories were empty when I went to transfer the contents back into OE. Any more suggestions? "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM" wrote: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM" wrote in message ... With the latest update for OE (which you have), before compacting a folder it copies it to the Recycle Bin with a BAK extension. Darn. Gotta get used to that! Has MS released any articles on the correct way to restore from the Bin? -- Bruce Hagen MS MVP - Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ I don't think so, but I see several ways: 1. The easiest way is to close OE, go to the message store and delete the DBX file for that folder. Then go to the Recycle Bin and restore the BAK file. Go bact to the message store and rename the BAK file to a DBX file. Then open OE. 2. If the folder has new messages that you want to keep, close OE. Restore the BAK file. Go to the store folder and move the new DBX file to an empty Windows folder. Rename the BAK file to a DBX file. Run DBXtract on the moved DBX file, Open OE and drag the restored EML files from the Windows folder to the restored folder in the Folder List. I'm sure you can think of three or four other approaches. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM Please reply in newsgroup. It doesn't put them in OE. It puts them in the output directory you chose on the first page. I suggest making a new, empty Windows folder (directory) for the output. The messages can be dragged from a Windows folder back into a folder in OE's Folder List. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM "Anyone who prefers security over freedom deserves neither." |
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Search for *.eml if you can't find them.
I suspect your message store got wiped. If the bak files are in the Recycle bin then move them to an empty directory. Then you can run DBXpress and point to that directory and check the All Files checkbox to let it list the bak files. Then run it on the bak files. steve "Curly" wrote in message ... Thanks for all of your input. After trying all of your suggestions and coming up empty (literally), I resorted to DBXpress. It went through its extracting process and indicated there were 391 messages that were sent to their new output directories. However, those directories were empty when I went to transfer the contents back into OE. Any more suggestions? "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM" wrote: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM" wrote in message ... With the latest update for OE (which you have), before compacting a folder it copies it to the Recycle Bin with a BAK extension. Darn. Gotta get used to that! Has MS released any articles on the correct way to restore from the Bin? -- Bruce Hagen MS MVP - Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ I don't think so, but I see several ways: 1. The easiest way is to close OE, go to the message store and delete the DBX file for that folder. Then go to the Recycle Bin and restore the BAK file. Go bact to the message store and rename the BAK file to a DBX file. Then open OE. 2. If the folder has new messages that you want to keep, close OE. Restore the BAK file. Go to the store folder and move the new DBX file to an empty Windows folder. Rename the BAK file to a DBX file. Run DBXtract on the moved DBX file, Open OE and drag the restored EML files from the Windows folder to the restored folder in the Folder List. I'm sure you can think of three or four other approaches. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM Please reply in newsgroup. |
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