I've installed this patch, as well as the REG file generously provided by
Freudi, and all seems to be working well. I especially like the patch's
functions to copy the OE folders to the Recycle Bin as BAK files, and the
resetting of the compact count to zero - I checked to make sure that was
working.
I do have a question though.
I compact daily, and backup OE weekly. If you right click on the BAK files
after compacting you have a "restore" option. If I were to move these
elswhere, then after the following day's compacting delete them and move the
new ones (so that during compacting I would have one set of BAK files),
would this set serve as a backup should a problem occur during compacting?
The reason I am considering this is that it would be more current than my
weekly backup - not to suggest it would replace backing up.
Thanks
Terry

If you click the Restore operation in the Recycle Bin, the BAK files will be
copied to your existing message store folder. And they are the files that
were existing before the compact begins, so they are probably bloated in
size. You can copy all the *.BAK files moved to the message store folder to
a folder for safekeeping but their main intent is to provide the ability to
recover from a problem, if one should occur during a compacting operation.

If that were to happen, you would copy all of the *.bak files from the
message store folder to a new folder, then rename them all to have a *.dbx
extension. Then open Outlook Express, selecting File/Import/Messages and
selecting "From a Message Store folder" and pointing the wizard to the
folder in which you placed the renamed *.bak files.

They are not a substitute for regular backup procedures.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.


"Terry Haeber" Terry wrote in message
...
I've installed this patch, as well as the REG file generously provided by
Freudi, and all seems to be working well. I especially like the patch's
functions to copy the OE folders to the Recycle Bin as BAK files, and the
resetting of the compact count to zero - I checked to make sure that was
working.
I do have a question though.
I compact daily, and backup OE weekly. If you right click on the BAK files
after compacting you have a "restore" option. If I were to move these
elswhere, then after the following day's compacting delete them and move
the new ones (so that during compacting I would have one set of BAK
files), would this set serve as a backup should a problem occur during
compacting?
The reason I am considering this is that it would be more current than my
weekly backup - not to suggest it would replace backing up.
Thanks
Terry

Thanks for your reply, Jim.
I wasn't suggesting or intending to use this as a substitute for backing up,
rather as a known, good, and current copy (between back ups) should a
problem occur during compacting.
Terry

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
If you click the Restore operation in the Recycle Bin, the BAK files will
be copied to your existing message store folder. And they are the files
that were existing before the compact begins, so they are probably bloated
in size. You can copy all the *.BAK files moved to the message store
folder to a folder for safekeeping but their main intent is to provide the
ability to recover from a problem, if one should occur during a compacting
operation.

If that were to happen, you would copy all of the *.bak files from the
message store folder to a new folder, then rename them all to have a *.dbx
extension. Then open Outlook Express, selecting File/Import/Messages and
selecting "From a Message Store folder" and pointing the wizard to the
folder in which you placed the renamed *.bak files.

They are not a substitute for regular backup procedures.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.


"Terry Haeber" Terry wrote in message
...
I've installed this patch, as well as the REG file generously provided by
Freudi, and all seems to be working well. I especially like the patch's
functions to copy the OE folders to the Recycle Bin as BAK files, and the
resetting of the compact count to zero - I checked to make sure that was
working.
I do have a question though.
I compact daily, and backup OE weekly. If you right click on the BAK
files after compacting you have a "restore" option. If I were to move
these elswhere, then after the following day's compacting delete them and
move the new ones (so that during compacting I would have one set of BAK
files), would this set serve as a backup should a problem occur during
compacting?
The reason I am considering this is that it would be more current than my
weekly backup - not to suggest it would replace backing up.
Thanks
Terry

Why not just leave them in the Recycle Bin until needed? Seems pretty
simple to do and they'll be there if a problem rears its ugly head. g

It just seems that a weekly backup (after successful compacting) of all the
DBX files in the message store folder to a CD, DVD, or even another folder
created for the purpose on the hard drive, only takes moments to do and is
cheap insurance. Good luck and thanks for the feedback.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.


"Terry Haeber" Terry wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply, Jim.
I wasn't suggesting or intending to use this as a substitute for backing
up, rather as a known, good, and current copy (between back ups) should a
problem occur during compacting.
Terry

"Terry Haeber" Terry schrieb:

I compact daily, and backup OE weekly.

IMHO compacting that often, isn't really needed. At least not until
you reorganize (copy, delete, move) *a lot of* the contained messages
manually on a daily basis.

If you right click on the BAK files
after compacting you have a "restore" option. If I were to move these
elswhere, then after the following day's compacting delete them and move the
new ones (so that during compacting I would have one set of BAK files),
would this set serve as a backup should a problem occur during compacting?

In case you have too much free space on your harddisc, yes - in case
you have an actual backup of the relevant registry settings too and
did not set up new mail/news accounts, rules, views and such.

Bye,
Freudi

Thanks, Freudi, and thanks again for the REG file.

Terry


"Ottmar Freudenberger" wrote in message
...
"Terry Haeber" Terry schrieb:

I compact daily, and backup OE weekly.

IMHO compacting that often, isn't really needed. At least not until
you reorganize (copy, delete, move) *a lot of* the contained messages
manually on a daily basis.

If you right click on the BAK files
after compacting you have a "restore" option. If I were to move these
elswhere, then after the following day's compacting delete them and move
the
new ones (so that during compacting I would have one set of BAK files),
would this set serve as a backup should a problem occur during
compacting?

In case you have too much free space on your harddisc, yes - in case
you have an actual backup of the relevant registry settings too and
did not set up new mail/news accounts, rules, views and such.

Bye,
Freudi

"Terry Haeber" Terry schrieb:

Thanks, Freudi, and thanks again for the REG file.

You're welcome, Terry and glad, I could help,
Freudi

"Terry Haeber" Terry wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply, Jim.
I wasn't suggesting or intending to use this as a substitute for backing
up, rather as a known, good, and current copy (between back ups) should a
problem occur during compacting.
Terry


This was the entire point of the patch, as users were (are) consistently
having problems with the compaction process. Now if it fails, you can
restore from the recycle bin.

steve




"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
If you click the Restore operation in the Recycle Bin, the BAK files will
be copied to your existing message store folder. And they are the files
that were existing before the compact begins, so they are probably
bloated in size. You can copy all the *.BAK files moved to the message
store folder to a folder for safekeeping but their main intent is to
provide the ability to recover from a problem, if one should occur during
a compacting operation.

If that were to happen, you would copy all of the *.bak files from the
message store folder to a new folder, then rename them all to have a
*.dbx extension. Then open Outlook Express, selecting
File/Import/Messages and selecting "From a Message Store folder" and
pointing the wizard to the folder in which you placed the renamed *.bak
files.

They are not a substitute for regular backup procedures.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.


"Terry Haeber" Terry wrote in message
...
I've installed this patch, as well as the REG file generously provided
by Freudi, and all seems to be working well. I especially like the
patch's functions to copy the OE folders to the Recycle Bin as BAK
files, and the resetting of the compact count to zero - I checked to
make sure that was working.
I do have a question though.
I compact daily, and backup OE weekly. If you right click on the BAK
files after compacting you have a "restore" option. If I were to move
these elswhere, then after the following day's compacting delete them
and move the new ones (so that during compacting I would have one set of
BAK files), would this set serve as a backup should a problem occur
during compacting?
The reason I am considering this is that it would be more current than
my weekly backup - not to suggest it would replace backing up.
Thanks
Terry