Hi,

How to apply a rule manually on the sent items folder?

I cannot run an automatic rule there, am i correct?

So i have to copy mails to another folder from the sent items system folder
regularly, Am i correct?

Is there some other way - please inform.

Also does this apply to all mails clients like Eudora? MS Outlook? etc or
just for Outlook Express?

Do all email clients should have minimum local folders of under 100MB and
should avoid mails in the local default folders as it might corrupt the mails
and data within?

Try to explain.

Akshay.

Hi,

Message rules are set and I have recently compacted all my folders. What I
need to know is how to set Messages Rules for Sent Items?

Or Do i have to move messages out of Sent Items manually?

Do guide.

Akshay.

"mac" wrote:


"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Local folders and rules can be created for incoming messages but what abt
a
folder like sent items where all sent messages are automatically saved?

Do we have to move them manually from the sent item folder on daily basis?

Pls guide.

Akshay.

It will depend on how you wish to sort your sent mail? By year Sent 2004,
Sent 2006 etc or To Work, To Joan? Create folders and rules then apply them
manually on a regular basis.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS]

iweb wrote:
Hi,

How to apply a rule manually on the sent items folder?

I cannot run an automatic rule there, am i correct?

So i have to copy mails to another folder from the sent items system folder
regularly, Am i correct?

No, you need to move them to another folder.

Is there some other way - please inform.

No.

Also does this apply to all mails clients like Eudora? MS Outlook? etc or
just for Outlook Express?

No.

Do all email clients should have minimum local folders of under 100MB and
should avoid mails in the local default folders as it might corrupt the mails
and data within?

No.

Try to explain.

Akshay.

If you want to use OE, that's what you've got to do. Selecting all the
sent items and moving them isn't exactly a large chore.

Alias

Hi,

Message rules are set and I have recently compacted all my folders. What I
need to know is how to set Messages Rules for Sent Items?

Or Do i have to move messages out of Sent Items manually?

Do guide.

Akshay.

"mac" wrote:

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Local folders and rules can be created for incoming messages but what abt
a
folder like sent items where all sent messages are automatically saved?

Do we have to move them manually from the sent item folder on daily basis?

Pls guide.

Akshay.
It will depend on how you wish to sort your sent mail? By year Sent 2004,
Sent 2006 etc or To Work, To Joan? Create folders and rules then apply them
manually on a regular basis.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS]

Hi,

So then is MS Outlook a better option than Outlook express? Can Outlook
accept more emails than OE?

Are corruption chances lesser with Ms Outlook than OE?

Akshay.

"Alias" wrote:

iweb wrote:
Hi,

How to apply a rule manually on the sent items folder?

I cannot run an automatic rule there, am i correct?

So i have to copy mails to another folder from the sent items system folder
regularly, Am i correct?

No, you need to move them to another folder.

Is there some other way - please inform.

No.

Also does this apply to all mails clients like Eudora? MS Outlook? etc or
just for Outlook Express?

No.

Do all email clients should have minimum local folders of under 100MB and
should avoid mails in the local default folders as it might corrupt the mails
and data within?

No.

Try to explain.

Akshay.

If you want to use OE, that's what you've got to do. Selecting all the
sent items and moving them isn't exactly a large chore.

Alias

Hi,

Message rules are set and I have recently compacted all my folders. What I
need to know is how to set Messages Rules for Sent Items?

Or Do i have to move messages out of Sent Items manually?

Do guide.

Akshay.

"mac" wrote:

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Local folders and rules can be created for incoming messages but what abt
a
folder like sent items where all sent messages are automatically saved?

Do we have to move them manually from the sent item folder on daily basis?

Pls guide.

Akshay.
It will depend on how you wish to sort your sent mail? By year Sent 2004,
Sent 2006 etc or To Work, To Joan? Create folders and rules then apply them
manually on a regular basis.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS]

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

So then is MS Outlook a better option than Outlook express? Can Outlook
accept more emails than OE?

I don't know, but how would you ever find anything in a folder that large?

Are corruption chances lesser with Ms Outlook than OE?


I think so.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM
Please reply in newsgroup.

iweb wrote:
Hi,

So then is MS Outlook a better option than Outlook express? Can Outlook
accept more emails than OE?

Are corruption chances lesser with Ms Outlook than OE?

Akshay.

I have no idea. I don't care for Outlook so I don't use it for email.

Alias

"Alias" wrote:

iweb wrote:
Hi,

How to apply a rule manually on the sent items folder?

I cannot run an automatic rule there, am i correct?

So i have to copy mails to another folder from the sent items system folder
regularly, Am i correct?
No, you need to move them to another folder.
Is there some other way - please inform.
No.
Also does this apply to all mails clients like Eudora? MS Outlook? etc or
just for Outlook Express?
No.
Do all email clients should have minimum local folders of under 100MB and
should avoid mails in the local default folders as it might corrupt the mails
and data within?
No.
Try to explain.

Akshay.
If you want to use OE, that's what you've got to do. Selecting all the
sent items and moving them isn't exactly a large chore.

Alias
Hi,

Message rules are set and I have recently compacted all my folders. What I
need to know is how to set Messages Rules for Sent Items?

Or Do i have to move messages out of Sent Items manually?

Do guide.

Akshay.

"mac" wrote:

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Local folders and rules can be created for incoming messages but what abt
a
folder like sent items where all sent messages are automatically saved?

Do we have to move them manually from the sent item folder on daily basis?

Pls guide.

Akshay.
It will depend on how you wish to sort your sent mail? By year Sent 2004,
Sent 2006 etc or To Work, To Joan? Create folders and rules then apply them
manually on a regular basis.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS]

In my experience, 8,000 to 10,0000 messages are way too many for Outlook
to handle gracefully. Having a large number of message in a folder,
especially in the Inbox, can slow operations greatly.

I use Outlook at work because I must, and OE at home, by choice. I've
never experienced data corruption with either, so I can't say anything
about the relative chances.


iweb wrote:
So then is MS Outlook a better option than Outlook express? Can Outlook
accept more emails than OE?

Are corruption chances lesser with Ms Outlook than OE?

--
Gary L. Smith
Columbus, Ohio

OE has its limitations. The really big limitation is no dbx file can exceed
2 gigabytes and when you reach that, the file gets corrupt and unreadable
and no messages can be recovered without a 3rd party extraction program.
But the problems can occur even before you get close to that size. OE in
its current manifestation was written in 1997, and no one imagined the huge
volume of emails and attachments that can bloat the message store, so when
it gets really big in a folder, that folder can easily become corrupted (one
byte change in the file can make it completely unreadable by OE).

So the guidline of 100 megs per folder began as my recommendation from
experience with testing large folders, and at that size you are likely to
have no problems. But above that size (very roughly), once can see
sluggishness of performance and an apparent greater tendency towards
corruption. So its better to parse the messages into smaller size folders.

That said, my sent items is currently 211 megs (yeah, I need to archive it
and start with an empty one), but I also backup with triple redundancy
almost daily with a single button click using OETool and OEQB (both free see
www.oehelp.com/OETool/). I also redundantly download all my mail on another
machine.

The other factors that contribute to the lack of stability of the message
store are compaction problems, which are reduced in newly released patches
(see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2) and interference from other programs such
as antivirus and antispam software that was not properly tested with OE and
is known to cause problems in functionality as well as massive message loss
(see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3).

So if you want huge folder sizes, then #1 backup frequently (which you
should do anyway to prepare for when the hard drive fails) and #2 get rid of
any 3rd party software that could interfere with OE. That should also save
you the cost of DBXpress. G

Hope that helps explain things a bit more.

steve

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

So then is MS Outlook a better option than Outlook express? Can Outlook
accept more emails than OE?

Are corruption chances lesser with Ms Outlook than OE?

Akshay.

"Alias" wrote:

iweb wrote:
Hi,

How to apply a rule manually on the sent items folder?

I cannot run an automatic rule there, am i correct?

So i have to copy mails to another folder from the sent items system
folder
regularly, Am i correct?

No, you need to move them to another folder.

Is there some other way - please inform.

No.

Also does this apply to all mails clients like Eudora? MS Outlook? etc
or
just for Outlook Express?

No.

Do all email clients should have minimum local folders of under 100MB
and
should avoid mails in the local default folders as it might corrupt the
mails
and data within?

No.

Try to explain.

Akshay.

If you want to use OE, that's what you've got to do. Selecting all the
sent items and moving them isn't exactly a large chore.

Alias

Hi,

Message rules are set and I have recently compacted all my folders.
What I
need to know is how to set Messages Rules for Sent Items?

Or Do i have to move messages out of Sent Items manually?

Do guide.

Akshay.

"mac" wrote:

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Local folders and rules can be created for incoming messages but
what abt
a
folder like sent items where all sent messages are automatically
saved?

Do we have to move them manually from the sent item folder on daily
basis?

Pls guide.

Akshay.
It will depend on how you wish to sort your sent mail? By year Sent
2004,
Sent 2006 etc or To Work, To Joan? Create folders and rules then
apply them
manually on a regular basis.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS]

Dear Steve,

Thanks for your detailed reply but I still need to know that fundamentally
should i migrate to MS Outlook as OE Cannot manage this huge data volume? or
shall I make smalled folders and stick to OE.

I am an Enteprise class user and I use OE as I love its interface better
than MS Outlook. However if size is an issue I need to migrate :-(

Your expert comments awaited.

Akshay.


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

OE has its limitations. The really big limitation is no dbx file can exceed
2 gigabytes and when you reach that, the file gets corrupt and unreadable
and no messages can be recovered without a 3rd party extraction program.
But the problems can occur even before you get close to that size. OE in
its current manifestation was written in 1997, and no one imagined the huge
volume of emails and attachments that can bloat the message store, so when
it gets really big in a folder, that folder can easily become corrupted (one
byte change in the file can make it completely unreadable by OE).

So the guidline of 100 megs per folder began as my recommendation from
experience with testing large folders, and at that size you are likely to
have no problems. But above that size (very roughly), once can see
sluggishness of performance and an apparent greater tendency towards
corruption. So its better to parse the messages into smaller size folders.

That said, my sent items is currently 211 megs (yeah, I need to archive it
and start with an empty one), but I also backup with triple redundancy
almost daily with a single button click using OETool and OEQB (both free see
www.oehelp.com/OETool/). I also redundantly download all my mail on another
machine.

The other factors that contribute to the lack of stability of the message
store are compaction problems, which are reduced in newly released patches
(see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2) and interference from other programs such
as antivirus and antispam software that was not properly tested with OE and
is known to cause problems in functionality as well as massive message loss
(see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3).

So if you want huge folder sizes, then #1 backup frequently (which you
should do anyway to prepare for when the hard drive fails) and #2 get rid of
any 3rd party software that could interfere with OE. That should also save
you the cost of DBXpress. G

Hope that helps explain things a bit more.

steve

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

So then is MS Outlook a better option than Outlook express? Can Outlook
accept more emails than OE?

Are corruption chances lesser with Ms Outlook than OE?

Akshay.

"Alias" wrote:

iweb wrote:
Hi,

How to apply a rule manually on the sent items folder?

I cannot run an automatic rule there, am i correct?

So i have to copy mails to another folder from the sent items system
folder
regularly, Am i correct?

No, you need to move them to another folder.

Is there some other way - please inform.

No.

Also does this apply to all mails clients like Eudora? MS Outlook? etc
or
just for Outlook Express?

No.

Do all email clients should have minimum local folders of under 100MB
and
should avoid mails in the local default folders as it might corrupt the
mails
and data within?

No.

Try to explain.

Akshay.

If you want to use OE, that's what you've got to do. Selecting all the
sent items and moving them isn't exactly a large chore.

Alias

Hi,

Message rules are set and I have recently compacted all my folders.
What I
need to know is how to set Messages Rules for Sent Items?

Or Do i have to move messages out of Sent Items manually?

Do guide.

Akshay.

"mac" wrote:

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Local folders and rules can be created for incoming messages but
what abt
a
folder like sent items where all sent messages are automatically
saved?

Do we have to move them manually from the sent item folder on daily
basis?

Pls guide.

Akshay.
It will depend on how you wish to sort your sent mail? By year Sent
2004,
Sent 2006 etc or To Work, To Joan? Create folders and rules then
apply them
manually on a regular basis.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS]

iweb wrote:
Dear Steve,

Thanks for your detailed reply but I still need to know that fundamentally
should i migrate to MS Outlook as OE Cannot manage this huge data volume? or
shall I make smalled folders and stick to OE.

I am an Enteprise class user and I use OE as I love its interface better
than MS Outlook. However if size is an issue I need to migrate :-(

Your expert comments awaited.

Akshay.


If you keep it backed up, what could be the problem? Make smaller .dbx
files. I don't think there's a limit to how many you can make. You could
also create a new identity and leave the old one for storage. You could
also store really old ones using "save as", especially the biggest ones
if you don't have to refer to them much and only keep them for legal or
"in case" purposes.

Alias

As long as you backup frequently, then there is no need to migrate to
Outlook. I personally don't like Outlook and use OE almost exclusively.
But I'm well aware of OE's deficiencies, so I'm very careful.

steve

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Dear Steve,

Thanks for your detailed reply but I still need to know that fundamentally
should i migrate to MS Outlook as OE Cannot manage this huge data volume?
or
shall I make smalled folders and stick to OE.

I am an Enteprise class user and I use OE as I love its interface better
than MS Outlook. However if size is an issue I need to migrate :-(

Your expert comments awaited.

Akshay.


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

OE has its limitations. The really big limitation is no dbx file can
exceed
2 gigabytes and when you reach that, the file gets corrupt and unreadable
and no messages can be recovered without a 3rd party extraction program.
But the problems can occur even before you get close to that size. OE in
its current manifestation was written in 1997, and no one imagined the
huge
volume of emails and attachments that can bloat the message store, so
when
it gets really big in a folder, that folder can easily become corrupted
(one
byte change in the file can make it completely unreadable by OE).

So the guidline of 100 megs per folder began as my recommendation from
experience with testing large folders, and at that size you are likely to
have no problems. But above that size (very roughly), once can see
sluggishness of performance and an apparent greater tendency towards
corruption. So its better to parse the messages into smaller size
folders.

That said, my sent items is currently 211 megs (yeah, I need to archive
it
and start with an empty one), but I also backup with triple redundancy
almost daily with a single button click using OETool and OEQB (both free
see
www.oehelp.com/OETool/). I also redundantly download all my mail on
another
machine.

The other factors that contribute to the lack of stability of the message
store are compaction problems, which are reduced in newly released
patches
(see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2) and interference from other programs
such
as antivirus and antispam software that was not properly tested with OE
and
is known to cause problems in functionality as well as massive message
loss
(see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3).

So if you want huge folder sizes, then #1 backup frequently (which you
should do anyway to prepare for when the hard drive fails) and #2 get rid
of
any 3rd party software that could interfere with OE. That should also
save
you the cost of DBXpress. G

Hope that helps explain things a bit more.

steve

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

So then is MS Outlook a better option than Outlook express? Can Outlook
accept more emails than OE?

Are corruption chances lesser with Ms Outlook than OE?

Akshay.

"Alias" wrote:

iweb wrote:
Hi,

How to apply a rule manually on the sent items folder?

I cannot run an automatic rule there, am i correct?

So i have to copy mails to another folder from the sent items system
folder
regularly, Am i correct?

No, you need to move them to another folder.

Is there some other way - please inform.

No.

Also does this apply to all mails clients like Eudora? MS Outlook?
etc
or
just for Outlook Express?

No.

Do all email clients should have minimum local folders of under
100MB
and
should avoid mails in the local default folders as it might corrupt
the
mails
and data within?

No.

Try to explain.

Akshay.

If you want to use OE, that's what you've got to do. Selecting all the
sent items and moving them isn't exactly a large chore.

Alias

Hi,

Message rules are set and I have recently compacted all my folders.
What I
need to know is how to set Messages Rules for Sent Items?

Or Do i have to move messages out of Sent Items manually?

Do guide.

Akshay.

"mac" wrote:

"iweb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Local folders and rules can be created for incoming messages but
what abt
a
folder like sent items where all sent messages are automatically
saved?

Do we have to move them manually from the sent item folder on
daily
basis?

Pls guide.

Akshay.
It will depend on how you wish to sort your sent mail? By year
Sent
2004,
Sent 2006 etc or To Work, To Joan? Create folders and rules then
apply them
manually on a regular basis.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS]