On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:18:37 -0500, Ken_B wrote:

In mail rules there are several "conditions" I can select, then I have
several options, one of which is to not download, or to delete from server.
But HTML ONLY is not one of them.

MS Outlook Express can only filter on the following header items useful
against spam:

Subject:
From:
To:
CC:

Using these you can delete email from the server before downloading.

MS Outlook Express can also filter on body text; but it has to download
the message from the server to do that. As you note, there is no way to
distinguish HTML only email from mixed MIME types.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:54:40 -0400, Steve Cochran wrote:

That's the problem. People want the computer to read the message and not
download it if it has certain characteristics, but how do you read it
without downloading it? G

I've seen some people claim that MailWasher can do that. They tend to
back off when I point out that, even though MW doesn't write the message
to disk (maybe; but what about the virtual swap file), it still has to
pull the message from the POP3 server and load it into memory.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

hola

"Ken_B" escribió en el mensaje
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I get tons of spam that is HTML only....no text. Virtually all legitimate
HTML e-mail contains text also.

There seems to be no option under message rules for blocking email with no
text. I would like them to not be downloaded from server. Any ideas on how
to block these?

There is a way to get partial information and not the entire message. So
one could download enough to figure out its pure HTML without having to
download the entire message. For instance, if one got the first 200 lines
one could probably determine much of the header info and also the message
type sufficient to provide greater filtering variables than what OE now
provides.

steve

"N. Miller" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:54:40 -0400, Steve Cochran wrote:

That's the problem. People want the computer to read the message and not
download it if it has certain characteristics, but how do you read it
without downloading it? G

I've seen some people claim that MailWasher can do that. They tend to
back off when I point out that, even though MW doesn't write the message
to disk (maybe; but what about the virtual swap file), it still has to
pull the message from the POP3 server and load it into memory.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

"Ken_B" wrote in message
news:s2Uog.93682$IZ2.19715@dukeread07...
I get tons of spam that is HTML only....no text. Virtually all legitimate
HTML e-mail contains text also.

There seems to be no option under message rules for blocking email with no
text. I would like them to not be downloaded from server. Any ideas on how
to block these?


Hello Ken
There are only two ways, that I am aware of, to stop HTML or the .gif type
spam emails from arriving in your in-box.
1. Use an ISP who do it for you - more and more are getting this software -
Brightmail have something to do with it
2. A very long winded method which I read in these groups and which is
reported as 'working' - use message rules to block any message that 'does
NOT contain the letter "a"'
Then work through the alphabet - yes 26 rules!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am fortunate to have an ISP that does filter ALL spam including the .gif
photo style of spam i.e. stock market and medicines and betting.
Once a week I go to my mail box and clear all the crxp out and send genuine
messages to my in box.
Hope this is of some assistance.
I think more pressure should be bought to bear on the ISPs to get their
fingers out and provide this service. It appears to me that most are still
doing very little to stop, prevent or deter spamming.
Rgds
Antioch

Hey, that a-b-c etc thing sounds like a good idea! I might try that.

The spam in question is being sent to email addresses ONLY used on eBay and
PayPal. I have no idea how those addresses wound up on spam lists.

I have made message rules to delete any mail to those accounts that do not
contain the words eBay or PayPal, and that seems to be working.

Thanks for all for the replies.

Ken




"antioch" wrote in message
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"Ken_B" wrote in message
news:s2Uog.93682$IZ2.19715@dukeread07...
I get tons of spam that is HTML only....no text. Virtually all legitimate
HTML e-mail contains text also.

There seems to be no option under message rules for blocking email with
no
text. I would like them to not be downloaded from server. Any ideas on
how to block these?


Hello Ken
There are only two ways, that I am aware of, to stop HTML or the .gif type
spam emails from arriving in your in-box.
1. Use an ISP who do it for you - more and more are getting this
software - Brightmail have something to do with it
2. A very long winded method which I read in these groups and which is
reported as 'working' - use message rules to block any message that 'does
NOT contain the letter "a"'
Then work through the alphabet - yes 26 rules!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am fortunate to have an ISP that does filter ALL spam including the .gif
photo style of spam i.e. stock market and medicines and betting.
Once a week I go to my mail box and clear all the crxp out and send
genuine messages to my in box.
Hope this is of some assistance.
I think more pressure should be bought to bear on the ISPs to get their
fingers out and provide this service. It appears to me that most are
still doing very little to stop, prevent or deter spamming.
Rgds
Antioch

"Ken_B" wrote in message
news:AOwpg.93778$IZ2.40615@dukeread07...
Hey, that a-b-c etc thing sounds like a good idea! I might try that.

The spam in question is being sent to email addresses ONLY used on eBay
and
PayPal. I have no idea how those addresses wound up on spam lists.

I have made message rules to delete any mail to those accounts that do not
contain the words eBay or PayPal, and that seems to be working.

Thanks for all for the replies.

Ken


Hi Ken
I do not use ebay or paypal - is this how you think your email address was
obtained? - my understanding is that email addresses are obtained in all
sorts of different ways.
Good luck anyway.
Rgds
Antioch

Messages from eBay and PayPal contain the email
addresses of buyers and sellers so they can contact one another.

"antioch" wrote in message
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"Ken_B" wrote in message
news:AOwpg.93778$IZ2.40615@dukeread07...
Hey, that a-b-c etc thing sounds like a good idea! I might try that.

The spam in question is being sent to email addresses ONLY used on eBay
and
PayPal. I have no idea how those addresses wound up on spam lists.

I have made message rules to delete any mail to those accounts that do
not
contain the words eBay or PayPal, and that seems to be working.

Thanks for all for the replies.

Ken


Hi Ken
I do not use ebay or paypal - is this how you think your email address was
obtained? - my understanding is that email addresses are obtained in all
sorts of different ways.
Good luck anyway.
Rgds
Antioch