OK, let's try something fairly simple (hopefully). Close Outlook Express.
Do a file search for any file ending with [ WA* ] w/o the brackets. If you
find several, double click on each one until you find one that has the
contacts you need and write down it's file location. Then open Windows
Explorer (WinKey+E) and navigate to that location and right click on the WAB
file and select Copy [to copy it to the clipboard]. Now navigate in Windows
Explorer to your root drive [ C:\ ] and right click on a blank spot in the
right hand pane of the Explorer window and select Paste. This will place a
copy of the desired address book on the root drive.

Now, still with Outlook Express closed, open the registry editor to the WAB
file path:

\HKEY_CURRENT_USER
\Software
\Microsoft
\WAB
\WAB4
\Wab File Name

and in the right hand pane, clear the existing entry and insert in its place
"C:\nameoffile.WAB" [substituting in place of nameoffile for the actual name
of the file you moved]. Exit the registry editor and reboot. Now open
Outlook Express and see if the address book is working correctly.

As for your problem with Word/Office/Outlook, if you have never installed
Microsoft Office, how did you get a copy of Word? Was it installed from
some other application program? If so, you may have to find that older CD
and run a repair installation, but to get advice concerning that, I'd
suggest posting to whatever newsgroup is appropriate for the program you
installed that gave you Word.

Good luck and let us know the results.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.

"BAZ" wrote in message
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Jim,

I hope I see that I sent you a message... but it is buried above ...
with all of the previous messages beng displayed!

BAZ

Hi Jim,

I will try your suggestion after I return home from dinner.

The only way I had word and excel was that it was installed when I
purchased my very first computer. I don't think I ever received a CD
for that. Actually, those two programs may have been installed again by
PC Warehouse when I got my second computer... I did not have to pay a
bundle for the CD. Sure wish I had one now!

I don't recall copying either executable and moving them myself (when I
got the second computer). But I may have.

Anyway, I don't recall seeing the Outlook shortcut on my desktop until
recently - and I can tell you that I used Word several times last week.
So ... who knows what happened there!

The one thing I did notice was that when I use Add/Remove programs it
is kind of a useless operation if the Outlook Express version you have
is corrupted. I went offline and was able to remove Outlook Express and
then re-install it - so the re-installed version must just be the
original version stored on my hard drive.
What I did try to do was uninstall Outlook Express and then go on-line
and reinstall Internet Explorer, SP2 - but that seemed to cause worse
problems.
At that point I was not even able to create and send messages! But that
might have been because I removed the appropriate addess book before
doing the uninstall.

I had to do a System Restore to yesterday to get back to where I now
am. I can now use Excel, but not Word. I can send/receive messages -
but I cannot access the addess book. Back to ground zero.

But still - the major problem is what happens when I shut down the
computer and remove power. All of that weird CMOS stuff comes up when I
reboot and my date is set back to 2002!
I didn't realize they still used batteries to save critical information
and I am shocked that I've had two such incidents so soon after they
installed the new CD-ROM burner, etc.
I mean - what can kill a battery so quickly?

Thanks for all of your time and suggestions.

BAZ

Jim Pickering wrote:
OK, let's try something fairly simple (hopefully). Close Outlook Express.
Do a file search for any file ending with [ WA* ] w/o the brackets. If you
find several, double click on each one until you find one that has the
contacts you need and write down it's file location. Then open Windows
Explorer (WinKey+E) and navigate to that location and right click on the WAB
file and select Copy [to copy it to the clipboard]. Now navigate in Windows
Explorer to your root drive [ C:\ ] and right click on a blank spot in the
right hand pane of the Explorer window and select Paste. This will place a
copy of the desired address book on the root drive.

Now, still with Outlook Express closed, open the registry editor to the WAB
file path:

\HKEY_CURRENT_USER
\Software
\Microsoft
\WAB
\WAB4
\Wab File Name

and in the right hand pane, clear the existing entry and insert in its place
"C:\nameoffile.WAB" [substituting in place of nameoffile for the actual name
of the file you moved]. Exit the registry editor and reboot. Now open
Outlook Express and see if the address book is working correctly.

As for your problem with Word/Office/Outlook, if you have never installed
Microsoft Office, how did you get a copy of Word? Was it installed from
some other application program? If so, you may have to find that older CD
and run a repair installation, but to get advice concerning that, I'd
suggest posting to whatever newsgroup is appropriate for the program you
installed that gave you Word.

Good luck and let us know the results.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.

"BAZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
Jim,

I hope I see that I sent you a message... but it is buried above ...
with all of the previous messages beng displayed!

BAZ

If the computer is more than a year or so old, the CMOS errors are
indicative of a failed or failing battery. If you feel comfortable opening
the computer case, it's not that difficult to find and replace the battery
which in most cases resembles a large hearing aid type battery, i.e., flat
and about the size of a dime.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.


"BAZ" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi Jim,

I will try your suggestion after I return home from dinner.

The only way I had word and excel was that it was installed when I
purchased my very first computer. I don't think I ever received a CD
for that. Actually, those two programs may have been installed again by
PC Warehouse when I got my second computer... I did not have to pay a
bundle for the CD. Sure wish I had one now!

I don't recall copying either executable and moving them myself (when I
got the second computer). But I may have.

Anyway, I don't recall seeing the Outlook shortcut on my desktop until
recently - and I can tell you that I used Word several times last week.
So ... who knows what happened there!

The one thing I did notice was that when I use Add/Remove programs it
is kind of a useless operation if the Outlook Express version you have
is corrupted. I went offline and was able to remove Outlook Express and
then re-install it - so the re-installed version must just be the
original version stored on my hard drive.
What I did try to do was uninstall Outlook Express and then go on-line
and reinstall Internet Explorer, SP2 - but that seemed to cause worse
problems.
At that point I was not even able to create and send messages! But that
might have been because I removed the appropriate addess book before
doing the uninstall.

I had to do a System Restore to yesterday to get back to where I now
am. I can now use Excel, but not Word. I can send/receive messages -
but I cannot access the addess book. Back to ground zero.

But still - the major problem is what happens when I shut down the
computer and remove power. All of that weird CMOS stuff comes up when I
reboot and my date is set back to 2002!
I didn't realize they still used batteries to save critical information
and I am shocked that I've had two such incidents so soon after they
installed the new CD-ROM burner, etc.
I mean - what can kill a battery so quickly?

Thanks for all of your time and suggestions.

BAZ

Jim Pickering wrote:
OK, let's try something fairly simple (hopefully). Close Outlook
Express.
Do a file search for any file ending with [ WA* ] w/o the brackets. If
you
find several, double click on each one until you find one that has the
contacts you need and write down it's file location. Then open Windows
Explorer (WinKey+E) and navigate to that location and right click on the
WAB
file and select Copy [to copy it to the clipboard]. Now navigate in
Windows
Explorer to your root drive [ C:\ ] and right click on a blank spot in
the
right hand pane of the Explorer window and select Paste. This will place
a
copy of the desired address book on the root drive.

Now, still with Outlook Express closed, open the registry editor to the
WAB
file path:

\HKEY_CURRENT_USER
\Software
\Microsoft
\WAB
\WAB4
\Wab File Name

and in the right hand pane, clear the existing entry and insert in its
place
"C:\nameoffile.WAB" [substituting in place of nameoffile for the actual
name
of the file you moved]. Exit the registry editor and reboot. Now open
Outlook Express and see if the address book is working correctly.

As for your problem with Word/Office/Outlook, if you have never installed
Microsoft Office, how did you get a copy of Word? Was it installed from
some other application program? If so, you may have to find that older
CD
and run a repair installation, but to get advice concerning that, I'd
suggest posting to whatever newsgroup is appropriate for the program you
installed that gave you Word.

Good luck and let us know the results.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.

"BAZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
Jim,

I hope I see that I sent you a message... but it is buried above ...
with all of the previous messages beng displayed!

BAZ

I did exactly what you said. Closed down Outlook Express. Found the
..wab file. Copied it to C:\.
BTW, when I double clicked on the found .wab file I had to specify that
I wanted to use notepad to open the file ... and I could see my
contacts therein.

I then opened the registry and made the modification. I had to specify
modify - then I modified only the data... which now looks like
C:\BONNIE.wab (not .wab~). I then exited the registry editor and
rebooted.

Before opening Outlook Expess, I actually did another regedit and
confirmed that the right address was there.

I finally opened Outlook Express and nothing had changed.

Surprise - I then went back and did another regedit and the entry had
reverted to what was there originally: C:\Documents and
Settings\BONNIE.USER-blahblah\Application Data\Microsoft\Address
Book\BONNIE.wab.
MAGIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You haven't commented about the fact that my Outlook Express Import
file (the address where another .wab file is located were I to execute
the import - which I DID NOT) is another location... the same as the
above .wab address but with Bonnie instead of BONNIE.USER-blahblah
after Documents and Settings.

I am pretty sure my computer guy was trying to save stuff - like my
address book when reloading XP from scratch (to fix the previous
problem).

But - it is the Registry that dictates which address book is used,
right?

I am pretty convinced that it is Outlook Express that is corrupted, not
the address file.

As I said in a previous mail, the Add/Remove program under Control
Panel seems useless because I can uninstall and then re-install Outlook
Express while working off-line. That seems to me that I am just
re-installing the same corrupted version of Outlook Express?!?!?

It seems that the best idea is to uninstall Outlook Express (and
Internet Explorer) and then re-install from the microsoft site.
When I read this article you sent:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q318378

and then clicked on the XP SP2 install:

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...p/default.mspx

all it seemed to do is check for any updates which I didn't already
have... and these were two updates that I seem to have downloaded
previously. There is no attempt to download Internet Explorer (and
therefore Outlook Express).

When I am trying to do is to simply download Internet Explorer after
removing it (using Add/Remove Programs).

Nothing seems easy.

BAZ





Jim Pickering wrote:
OK, let's try something fairly simple (hopefully). Close Outlook Express.
Do a file search for any file ending with [ WA* ] w/o the brackets. If you
find several, double click on each one until you find one that has the
contacts you need and write down it's file location. Then open Windows
Explorer (WinKey+E) and navigate to that location and right click on the WAB
file and select Copy [to copy it to the clipboard]. Now navigate in Windows
Explorer to your root drive [ C:\ ] and right click on a blank spot in the
right hand pane of the Explorer window and select Paste. This will place a
copy of the desired address book on the root drive.

Now, still with Outlook Express closed, open the registry editor to the WAB
file path:

\HKEY_CURRENT_USER
\Software
\Microsoft
\WAB
\WAB4
\Wab File Name

and in the right hand pane, clear the existing entry and insert in its place
"C:\nameoffile.WAB" [substituting in place of nameoffile for the actual name
of the file you moved]. Exit the registry editor and reboot. Now open
Outlook Express and see if the address book is working correctly.

As for your problem with Word/Office/Outlook, if you have never installed
Microsoft Office, how did you get a copy of Word? Was it installed from
some other application program? If so, you may have to find that older CD
and run a repair installation, but to get advice concerning that, I'd
suggest posting to whatever newsgroup is appropriate for the program you
installed that gave you Word.

Good luck and let us know the results.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.

"BAZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
Jim,

I hope I see that I sent you a message... but it is buried above ...
with all of the previous messages beng displayed!

BAZ

Dear Jim,

I'm not comfortable doing this - (and yes, the computer is 4 years
old... remember it keeps reverting back to 2002 if I remove power?)...
but the important question to me is why the battery went ka-pooey twice
shortly after this guy installed a new CD-ROM burner and DVD reader
combo?

Is there something that can stress the battery?

Dumb question.

Apparently, I have to return to him for the battery replacement - but
you'd think I could get Outlook Express to work!

Thanks again,

BAZ
Jim Pickering wrote:
If the computer is more than a year or so old, the CMOS errors are
indicative of a failed or failing battery. If you feel comfortable opening
the computer case, it's not that difficult to find and replace the battery
which in most cases resembles a large hearing aid type battery, i.e., flat
and about the size of a dime.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.


"BAZ" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi Jim,

I will try your suggestion after I return home from dinner.

The only way I had word and excel was that it was installed when I
purchased my very first computer. I don't think I ever received a CD
for that. Actually, those two programs may have been installed again by
PC Warehouse when I got my second computer... I did not have to pay a
bundle for the CD. Sure wish I had one now!

I don't recall copying either executable and moving them myself (when I
got the second computer). But I may have.

Anyway, I don't recall seeing the Outlook shortcut on my desktop until
recently - and I can tell you that I used Word several times last week.
So ... who knows what happened there!

The one thing I did notice was that when I use Add/Remove programs it
is kind of a useless operation if the Outlook Express version you have
is corrupted. I went offline and was able to remove Outlook Express and
then re-install it - so the re-installed version must just be the
original version stored on my hard drive.
What I did try to do was uninstall Outlook Express and then go on-line
and reinstall Internet Explorer, SP2 - but that seemed to cause worse
problems.
At that point I was not even able to create and send messages! But that
might have been because I removed the appropriate addess book before
doing the uninstall.

I had to do a System Restore to yesterday to get back to where I now
am. I can now use Excel, but not Word. I can send/receive messages -
but I cannot access the addess book. Back to ground zero.

But still - the major problem is what happens when I shut down the
computer and remove power. All of that weird CMOS stuff comes up when I
reboot and my date is set back to 2002!
I didn't realize they still used batteries to save critical information
and I am shocked that I've had two such incidents so soon after they
installed the new CD-ROM burner, etc.
I mean - what can kill a battery so quickly?

Thanks for all of your time and suggestions.

BAZ

Jim Pickering wrote:
OK, let's try something fairly simple (hopefully). Close Outlook
Express.
Do a file search for any file ending with [ WA* ] w/o the brackets. If
you
find several, double click on each one until you find one that has the
contacts you need and write down it's file location. Then open Windows
Explorer (WinKey+E) and navigate to that location and right click on the
WAB
file and select Copy [to copy it to the clipboard]. Now navigate in
Windows
Explorer to your root drive [ C:\ ] and right click on a blank spot in
the
right hand pane of the Explorer window and select Paste. This will place
a
copy of the desired address book on the root drive.

Now, still with Outlook Express closed, open the registry editor to the
WAB
file path:

\HKEY_CURRENT_USER
\Software
\Microsoft
\WAB
\WAB4
\Wab File Name

and in the right hand pane, clear the existing entry and insert in its
place
"C:\nameoffile.WAB" [substituting in place of nameoffile for the actual
name
of the file you moved]. Exit the registry editor and reboot. Now open
Outlook Express and see if the address book is working correctly.

As for your problem with Word/Office/Outlook, if you have never installed
Microsoft Office, how did you get a copy of Word? Was it installed from
some other application program? If so, you may have to find that older
CD
and run a repair installation, but to get advice concerning that, I'd
suggest posting to whatever newsgroup is appropriate for the program you
installed that gave you Word.

Good luck and let us know the results.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.

"BAZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
Jim,

I hope I see that I sent you a message... but it is buried above ...
with all of the previous messages beng displayed!

BAZ

Hey Jim!

I just went back to look at some of my old Sysem Restore points and I
see activity I don't understand. Starting in June, I have been having
periodic (at all hours) Software Distribution Service 2.0.
installations?!?!? On July 20, it happened twice, once at 1:12 AM and
once again at 4:21 AM. Believe me, I am an early to bed person - but
not quite so early to rise. Apparently, it also happened twice on
Friday and twice on Saturday and twice today ... mostly at hours when I
would be sound asleep.

I then googled and found this article:

I woke up yesterday morning and was unable to access either my Hotmail or Yahoo Mail accounts. I'm able to get to the login page for both, but when I enter my login/pass I get the "Page Cannot Be Displayed" message. Otherwise, I seem to be able to access all other sites.
I checked system restore and noticed that a "Software Distribution
Service 2.0" had been installed at 3:00 am the previous night. I did a
SR to before its installation and everything seemed to work fine. I was
able to login to Hotmail and Yahoo Mail perfectly.

However, it is happening every night at 3:00 am. The same update is
being installed and the same problem occurs the next morning. I'd like
to find a fix for this that doesn't involve doing a SR every
morning.

I don't know what I will lose, but I may try to go back and to another
system restore - before the first June Software Distribution Service
2.0.

I also see that on July 16th, it was PC Warehouse that installed
Microsoft Office 2000 Premium - the last thing I needed!

Wish me luck with my latest SR.

And someone suggested to turn off the automatic updates if this Sotware
Distribution Service 2.0 is indeed causing me problems!

BAZ






BAZ wrote:
Dear Jim,

I'm not comfortable doing this - (and yes, the computer is 4 years
old... remember it keeps reverting back to 2002 if I remove power?)...
but the important question to me is why the battery went ka-pooey twice
shortly after this guy installed a new CD-ROM burner and DVD reader
combo?

Is there something that can stress the battery?

Dumb question.

Apparently, I have to return to him for the battery replacement - but
you'd think I could get Outlook Express to work!

Thanks again,

BAZ
Jim Pickering wrote:
If the computer is more than a year or so old, the CMOS errors are
indicative of a failed or failing battery. If you feel comfortable opening
the computer case, it's not that difficult to find and replace the battery
which in most cases resembles a large hearing aid type battery, i.e., flat
and about the size of a dime.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.


"BAZ" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi Jim,

I will try your suggestion after I return home from dinner.

The only way I had word and excel was that it was installed when I
purchased my very first computer. I don't think I ever received a CD
for that. Actually, those two programs may have been installed again by
PC Warehouse when I got my second computer... I did not have to pay a
bundle for the CD. Sure wish I had one now!

I don't recall copying either executable and moving them myself (when I
got the second computer). But I may have.

Anyway, I don't recall seeing the Outlook shortcut on my desktop until
recently - and I can tell you that I used Word several times last week.
So ... who knows what happened there!

The one thing I did notice was that when I use Add/Remove programs it
is kind of a useless operation if the Outlook Express version you have
is corrupted. I went offline and was able to remove Outlook Express and
then re-install it - so the re-installed version must just be the
original version stored on my hard drive.
What I did try to do was uninstall Outlook Express and then go on-line
and reinstall Internet Explorer, SP2 - but that seemed to cause worse
problems.
At that point I was not even able to create and send messages! But that
might have been because I removed the appropriate addess book before
doing the uninstall.

I had to do a System Restore to yesterday to get back to where I now
am. I can now use Excel, but not Word. I can send/receive messages -
but I cannot access the addess book. Back to ground zero.

But still - the major problem is what happens when I shut down the
computer and remove power. All of that weird CMOS stuff comes up when I
reboot and my date is set back to 2002!
I didn't realize they still used batteries to save critical information
and I am shocked that I've had two such incidents so soon after they
installed the new CD-ROM burner, etc.
I mean - what can kill a battery so quickly?

Thanks for all of your time and suggestions.

BAZ

Jim Pickering wrote:
OK, let's try something fairly simple (hopefully). Close Outlook
Express.
Do a file search for any file ending with [ WA* ] w/o the brackets. If
you
find several, double click on each one until you find one that has the
contacts you need and write down it's file location. Then open Windows
Explorer (WinKey+E) and navigate to that location and right click on the
WAB
file and select Copy [to copy it to the clipboard]. Now navigate in
Windows
Explorer to your root drive [ C:\ ] and right click on a blank spot in
the
right hand pane of the Explorer window and select Paste. This will place
a
copy of the desired address book on the root drive.

Now, still with Outlook Express closed, open the registry editor to the
WAB
file path:

\HKEY_CURRENT_USER
\Software
\Microsoft
\WAB
\WAB4
\Wab File Name

and in the right hand pane, clear the existing entry and insert in its
place
"C:\nameoffile.WAB" [substituting in place of nameoffile for the actual
name
of the file you moved]. Exit the registry editor and reboot. Now open
Outlook Express and see if the address book is working correctly.

As for your problem with Word/Office/Outlook, if you have never installed
Microsoft Office, how did you get a copy of Word? Was it installed from
some other application program? If so, you may have to find that older
CD
and run a repair installation, but to get advice concerning that, I'd
suggest posting to whatever newsgroup is appropriate for the program you
installed that gave you Word.

Good luck and let us know the results.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.

"BAZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
Jim,

I hope I see that I sent you a message... but it is buried above ...
with all of the previous messages beng displayed!

BAZ

It's really pretty hard to know what may have happened when you had the
computer serviced. CMOS batteries can wear out in a very short period of
time for some users and can last for years for others. Since there is no
way of knowing how long the battery may have been sitting on a shelf
somewhere before it found its way to your computer, you can't predict how
long it will last.

Some computer shops install software that may/may not be completely legal.
They often do this for diagnosis and then fail to properly remove the
"rogue" software they've installed. I really think I'd either try to find a
reputable computer shop that has a good rating with your local Better
Business Bureau or else consider investing in a new computer from any
outlet. Best Buy, Circuit City, Staples and other office supply changes
have pretty capable machines for approximately $300 so depending on what
your "repair" tech charges, a new computer may pay for itself. And at 4
years of age, it's probably earned a retirement since newer processors and
increased RAM can make any new machine seem like a speed demon. It's your
choice, but I think I know which side of the camp I'd go for. Good luck.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.


"BAZ" wrote in message
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Dear Jim,

I'm not comfortable doing this - (and yes, the computer is 4 years
old... remember it keeps reverting back to 2002 if I remove power?)...
but the important question to me is why the battery went ka-pooey twice
shortly after this guy installed a new CD-ROM burner and DVD reader
combo?

Is there something that can stress the battery?

Dumb question.

Apparently, I have to return to him for the battery replacement - but
you'd think I could get Outlook Express to work!

Thanks again,

BAZ
Jim Pickering wrote:
If the computer is more than a year or so old, the CMOS errors are
indicative of a failed or failing battery. If you feel comfortable
opening
the computer case, it's not that difficult to find and replace the
battery
which in most cases resembles a large hearing aid type battery, i.e.,
flat
and about the size of a dime.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.


"BAZ" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi Jim,

I will try your suggestion after I return home from dinner.

The only way I had word and excel was that it was installed when I
purchased my very first computer. I don't think I ever received a CD
for that. Actually, those two programs may have been installed again by
PC Warehouse when I got my second computer... I did not have to pay a
bundle for the CD. Sure wish I had one now!

I don't recall copying either executable and moving them myself (when I
got the second computer). But I may have.

Anyway, I don't recall seeing the Outlook shortcut on my desktop until
recently - and I can tell you that I used Word several times last week.
So ... who knows what happened there!

The one thing I did notice was that when I use Add/Remove programs it
is kind of a useless operation if the Outlook Express version you have
is corrupted. I went offline and was able to remove Outlook Express and
then re-install it - so the re-installed version must just be the
original version stored on my hard drive.
What I did try to do was uninstall Outlook Express and then go on-line
and reinstall Internet Explorer, SP2 - but that seemed to cause worse
problems.
At that point I was not even able to create and send messages! But that
might have been because I removed the appropriate addess book before
doing the uninstall.

I had to do a System Restore to yesterday to get back to where I now
am. I can now use Excel, but not Word. I can send/receive messages -
but I cannot access the addess book. Back to ground zero.

But still - the major problem is what happens when I shut down the
computer and remove power. All of that weird CMOS stuff comes up when I
reboot and my date is set back to 2002!
I didn't realize they still used batteries to save critical information
and I am shocked that I've had two such incidents so soon after they
installed the new CD-ROM burner, etc.
I mean - what can kill a battery so quickly?

Thanks for all of your time and suggestions.

BAZ

Jim Pickering wrote:
OK, let's try something fairly simple (hopefully). Close Outlook
Express.
Do a file search for any file ending with [ WA* ] w/o the brackets.
If
you
find several, double click on each one until you find one that has the
contacts you need and write down it's file location. Then open
Windows
Explorer (WinKey+E) and navigate to that location and right click on
the
WAB
file and select Copy [to copy it to the clipboard]. Now navigate in
Windows
Explorer to your root drive [ C:\ ] and right click on a blank spot in
the
right hand pane of the Explorer window and select Paste. This will
place
a
copy of the desired address book on the root drive.

Now, still with Outlook Express closed, open the registry editor to
the
WAB
file path:

\HKEY_CURRENT_USER
\Software
\Microsoft
\WAB
\WAB4
\Wab File Name

and in the right hand pane, clear the existing entry and insert in its
place
"C:\nameoffile.WAB" [substituting in place of nameoffile for the
actual
name
of the file you moved]. Exit the registry editor and reboot. Now
open
Outlook Express and see if the address book is working correctly.

As for your problem with Word/Office/Outlook, if you have never
installed
Microsoft Office, how did you get a copy of Word? Was it installed
from
some other application program? If so, you may have to find that
older
CD
and run a repair installation, but to get advice concerning that, I'd
suggest posting to whatever newsgroup is appropriate for the program
you
installed that gave you Word.

Good luck and let us know the results.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.

"BAZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
Jim,

I hope I see that I sent you a message... but it is buried above ...
with all of the previous messages beng displayed!

BAZ

Although my computer is 4 years old, it's pretty speedy (1.8 Ghz
Pentium IV) with 256 MB of Ram and a 40 GB Hard Drive. I've also
invested in a graphic card (since their on board card wasn't fast
enough for me). I figured the computer had another good year in it!
The owner of PC Warehouse also felt the same way. She could easily have
pushed a new faster PC on me.

I found the article about the 3 AM automatic updates that I sent to you
to be very interesting - and may indeed have caused the problem I
experienced with Outlook Express. It sounds like too much of a
coincidence to me!

Again - I don't know why the computer repairman at PC Warehouse
installed Office 2000 when I don't have a disc. But he is good and will
fix the problem at no charge.


Jim Pickering wrote:
It's really pretty hard to know what may have happened when you had the
computer serviced. CMOS batteries can wear out in a very short period of
time for some users and can last for years for others. Since there is no
way of knowing how long the battery may have been sitting on a shelf
somewhere before it found its way to your computer, you can't predict how
long it will last.

Some computer shops install software that may/may not be completely legal.
They often do this for diagnosis and then fail to properly remove the
"rogue" software they've installed. I really think I'd either try to find a
reputable computer shop that has a good rating with your local Better
Business Bureau or else consider investing in a new computer from any
outlet. Best Buy, Circuit City, Staples and other office supply changes
have pretty capable machines for approximately $300 so depending on what
your "repair" tech charges, a new computer may pay for itself. And at 4
years of age, it's probably earned a retirement since newer processors and
increased RAM can make any new machine seem like a speed demon. It's your
choice, but I think I know which side of the camp I'd go for. Good luck.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.


"BAZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
Dear Jim,

I'm not comfortable doing this - (and yes, the computer is 4 years
old... remember it keeps reverting back to 2002 if I remove power?)...
but the important question to me is why the battery went ka-pooey twice
shortly after this guy installed a new CD-ROM burner and DVD reader
combo?

Is there something that can stress the battery?

Dumb question.

Apparently, I have to return to him for the battery replacement - but
you'd think I could get Outlook Express to work!

Thanks again,

BAZ
Jim Pickering wrote:
If the computer is more than a year or so old, the CMOS errors are
indicative of a failed or failing battery. If you feel comfortable
opening
the computer case, it's not that difficult to find and replace the
battery
which in most cases resembles a large hearing aid type battery, i.e.,
flat
and about the size of a dime.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.


"BAZ" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi Jim,

I will try your suggestion after I return home from dinner.

The only way I had word and excel was that it was installed when I
purchased my very first computer. I don't think I ever received a CD
for that. Actually, those two programs may have been installed again by
PC Warehouse when I got my second computer... I did not have to pay a
bundle for the CD. Sure wish I had one now!

I don't recall copying either executable and moving them myself (when I
got the second computer). But I may have.

Anyway, I don't recall seeing the Outlook shortcut on my desktop until
recently - and I can tell you that I used Word several times last week.
So ... who knows what happened there!

The one thing I did notice was that when I use Add/Remove programs it
is kind of a useless operation if the Outlook Express version you have
is corrupted. I went offline and was able to remove Outlook Express and
then re-install it - so the re-installed version must just be the
original version stored on my hard drive.
What I did try to do was uninstall Outlook Express and then go on-line
and reinstall Internet Explorer, SP2 - but that seemed to cause worse
problems.
At that point I was not even able to create and send messages! But that
might have been because I removed the appropriate addess book before
doing the uninstall.

I had to do a System Restore to yesterday to get back to where I now
am. I can now use Excel, but not Word. I can send/receive messages -
but I cannot access the addess book. Back to ground zero.

But still - the major problem is what happens when I shut down the
computer and remove power. All of that weird CMOS stuff comes up when I
reboot and my date is set back to 2002!
I didn't realize they still used batteries to save critical information
and I am shocked that I've had two such incidents so soon after they
installed the new CD-ROM burner, etc.
I mean - what can kill a battery so quickly?

Thanks for all of your time and suggestions.

BAZ

Jim Pickering wrote:
OK, let's try something fairly simple (hopefully). Close Outlook
Express.
Do a file search for any file ending with [ WA* ] w/o the brackets.
If
you
find several, double click on each one until you find one that has the
contacts you need and write down it's file location. Then open
Windows
Explorer (WinKey+E) and navigate to that location and right click on
the
WAB
file and select Copy [to copy it to the clipboard]. Now navigate in
Windows
Explorer to your root drive [ C:\ ] and right click on a blank spot in
the
right hand pane of the Explorer window and select Paste. This will
place
a
copy of the desired address book on the root drive.

Now, still with Outlook Express closed, open the registry editor to
the
WAB
file path:

\HKEY_CURRENT_USER
\Software
\Microsoft
\WAB
\WAB4
\Wab File Name

and in the right hand pane, clear the existing entry and insert in its
place
"C:\nameoffile.WAB" [substituting in place of nameoffile for the
actual
name
of the file you moved]. Exit the registry editor and reboot. Now
open
Outlook Express and see if the address book is working correctly.

As for your problem with Word/Office/Outlook, if you have never
installed
Microsoft Office, how did you get a copy of Word? Was it installed
from
some other application program? If so, you may have to find that
older
CD
and run a repair installation, but to get advice concerning that, I'd
suggest posting to whatever newsgroup is appropriate for the program
you
installed that gave you Word.

Good luck and let us know the results.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.

"BAZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
Jim,

I hope I see that I sent you a message... but it is buried above ...
with all of the previous messages beng displayed!

BAZ

Thanks for the update and good luck with it. I suspect your tech may remove
Office 2000 to make the computer "legal" again since you've not paid for a
copy, but I don't know that for certain. Post back if you continue to have
problems after the repair is complete.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail



"BAZ" wrote in message
ups.com...
Although my computer is 4 years old, it's pretty speedy (1.8 Ghz
Pentium IV) with 256 MB of Ram and a 40 GB Hard Drive. I've also
invested in a graphic card (since their on board card wasn't fast
enough for me). I figured the computer had another good year in it!
The owner of PC Warehouse also felt the same way. She could easily have
pushed a new faster PC on me.

I found the article about the 3 AM automatic updates that I sent to you
to be very interesting - and may indeed have caused the problem I
experienced with Outlook Express. It sounds like too much of a
coincidence to me!

Again - I don't know why the computer repairman at PC Warehouse
installed Office 2000 when I don't have a disc. But he is good and will
fix the problem at no charge.


Jim Pickering wrote:
It's really pretty hard to know what may have happened when you had the
computer serviced. CMOS batteries can wear out in a very short period of
time for some users and can last for years for others. Since there is no
way of knowing how long the battery may have been sitting on a shelf
somewhere before it found its way to your computer, you can't predict how
long it will last.

Some computer shops install software that may/may not be completely
legal.
They often do this for diagnosis and then fail to properly remove the
"rogue" software they've installed. I really think I'd either try to
find a
reputable computer shop that has a good rating with your local Better
Business Bureau or else consider investing in a new computer from any
outlet. Best Buy, Circuit City, Staples and other office supply changes
have pretty capable machines for approximately $300 so depending on what
your "repair" tech charges, a new computer may pay for itself. And at 4
years of age, it's probably earned a retirement since newer processors
and
increased RAM can make any new machine seem like a speed demon. It's
your
choice, but I think I know which side of the camp I'd go for. Good luck.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.


"BAZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
Dear Jim,

I'm not comfortable doing this - (and yes, the computer is 4 years
old... remember it keeps reverting back to 2002 if I remove power?)...
but the important question to me is why the battery went ka-pooey twice
shortly after this guy installed a new CD-ROM burner and DVD reader
combo?

Is there something that can stress the battery?

Dumb question.

Apparently, I have to return to him for the battery replacement - but
you'd think I could get Outlook Express to work!

Thanks again,

BAZ
Jim Pickering wrote:
If the computer is more than a year or so old, the CMOS errors are
indicative of a failed or failing battery. If you feel comfortable
opening
the computer case, it's not that difficult to find and replace the
battery
which in most cases resembles a large hearing aid type battery, i.e.,
flat
and about the size of a dime.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with your
feedback.


"BAZ" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi Jim,

I will try your suggestion after I return home from dinner.

The only way I had word and excel was that it was installed when I
purchased my very first computer. I don't think I ever received a CD
for that. Actually, those two programs may have been installed again
by
PC Warehouse when I got my second computer... I did not have to pay
a
bundle for the CD. Sure wish I had one now!

I don't recall copying either executable and moving them myself
(when I
got the second computer). But I may have.

Anyway, I don't recall seeing the Outlook shortcut on my desktop
until
recently - and I can tell you that I used Word several times last
week.
So ... who knows what happened there!

The one thing I did notice was that when I use Add/Remove programs
it
is kind of a useless operation if the Outlook Express version you
have
is corrupted. I went offline and was able to remove Outlook Express
and
then re-install it - so the re-installed version must just be the
original version stored on my hard drive.
What I did try to do was uninstall Outlook Express and then go
on-line
and reinstall Internet Explorer, SP2 - but that seemed to cause
worse
problems.
At that point I was not even able to create and send messages! But
that
might have been because I removed the appropriate addess book before
doing the uninstall.

I had to do a System Restore to yesterday to get back to where I now
am. I can now use Excel, but not Word. I can send/receive messages -
but I cannot access the addess book. Back to ground zero.

But still - the major problem is what happens when I shut down the
computer and remove power. All of that weird CMOS stuff comes up
when I
reboot and my date is set back to 2002!
I didn't realize they still used batteries to save critical
information
and I am shocked that I've had two such incidents so soon after they
installed the new CD-ROM burner, etc.
I mean - what can kill a battery so quickly?

Thanks for all of your time and suggestions.

BAZ

Jim Pickering wrote:
OK, let's try something fairly simple (hopefully). Close Outlook
Express.
Do a file search for any file ending with [ WA* ] w/o the brackets.
If
you
find several, double click on each one until you find one that has
the
contacts you need and write down it's file location. Then open
Windows
Explorer (WinKey+E) and navigate to that location and right click
on
the
WAB
file and select Copy [to copy it to the clipboard]. Now navigate
in
Windows
Explorer to your root drive [ C:\ ] and right click on a blank spot
in
the
right hand pane of the Explorer window and select Paste. This will
place
a
copy of the desired address book on the root drive.

Now, still with Outlook Express closed, open the registry editor to
the
WAB
file path:

\HKEY_CURRENT_USER
\Software
\Microsoft
\WAB
\WAB4
\Wab File Name

and in the right hand pane, clear the existing entry and insert in
its
place
"C:\nameoffile.WAB" [substituting in place of nameoffile for the
actual
name
of the file you moved]. Exit the registry editor and reboot. Now
open
Outlook Express and see if the address book is working correctly.

As for your problem with Word/Office/Outlook, if you have never
installed
Microsoft Office, how did you get a copy of Word? Was it installed
from
some other application program? If so, you may have to find that
older
CD
and run a repair installation, but to get advice concerning that,
I'd
suggest posting to whatever newsgroup is appropriate for the
program
you
installed that gave you Word.

Good luck and let us know the results.
--
Jim Pickering
MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only so that others may be helped with
your
feedback.

"BAZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
Jim,

I hope I see that I sent you a message... but it is buried above
...
with all of the previous messages beng displayed!

BAZ

"BAZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hey Jim!

I just went back to look at some of my old Sysem Restore points and I
see activity I don't understand. Starting in June, I have been having
periodic (at all hours) Software Distribution Service 2.0.
installations?!?!? On July 20, it happened twice, once at 1:12 AM and
once again at 4:21 AM. Believe me, I am an early to bed person - but
not quite so early to rise. Apparently, it also happened twice on
Friday and twice on Saturday and twice today ... mostly at hours when I
would be sound asleep.


Sounds like Windows Defender beta is installed.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
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