"Sarah" wrote in message
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My own outgoing messages have irregular line breaks, no matter where I set
my wrap. Lines are of varying lengths for no apparent reason. If I edit
the outgoing message to get rid of ridiculously short lines, by hitting
delete to get rid of what would be hard or soft returns in word
processing, the same or a different stupid line break gets in.

I just had two message go out looking just awful, with no logic to the
right "margin" at all. (I'd copy them but the subject matter is not one I
am inclined to share, since it involves other people's financial matters.)

Is there anything I can do to force OE to wrap correctly?

Sarah
Setting a line length (at 78 or less - down to 72) will keep each line from
wrapping, and leaving one or two words on the next line - yes, BUT -

There seems to be a "paragraph limit" that also causes a wrap, of sorts.
When composing a letter, pause and close it... You will be asked if you want
to save it. Say yes and you will find it in the DRAFTS folder. Open it again
and it will be shown just as if it had been sent - lines wrapped - and
paragraphs wrapped (chopped off just as a line would be)

This can be done multiple times, while you re-word or rearrange sentences by
hand for formatting... a real pain - but I have not been able to find
another way around this...

Ah, yes, that's what I do - it can be done from Outgoing, too, not just
Drafts - but it is a major PITA. I was hoping OE could be told to do what
the line wrap setting seems to imply it will do. If Word and Word Perfect
can do it, why can't OE?

The problem is either worse in the recent past or I am finding it more
annoying. I am not sure which!

Sarah

Phants wrote:
When composing a letter, pause and close it... You will be asked if you
want to save it. Say yes and you will find it in the DRAFTS folder. Open
it again and it will be shown just as if it had been sent - lines
wrapped - and paragraphs wrapped (chopped off just as a line would be)

This can be done multiple times, while you re-word or rearrange sentences
by hand for formatting... a real pain - but I have not been able to find
another way around this...

It is very annoying to see one of my posts all out of whack.
This seems to have been going on for a long time. 4,5 and 6.
What also annoys me is when someone don't use the return
key and one long line appears.

"Sarah" wrote in message
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Ah, yes, that's what I do - it can be done from Outgoing, too, not
just
Drafts - but it is a major PITA. I was hoping OE could be told to do
what
the line wrap setting seems to imply it will do. If Word and Word
Perfect
can do it, why can't OE?

The problem is either worse in the recent past or I am finding it more
annoying. I am not sure which!

Sarah

Phants wrote:
When composing a letter, pause and close it... You will be asked if
you
want to save it. Say yes and you will find it in the DRAFTS folder.
Open
it again and it will be shown just as if it had been sent - lines
wrapped - and paragraphs wrapped (chopped off just as a line would
be)

This can be done multiple times, while you re-word or rearrange
sentences
by hand for formatting... a real pain - but I have not been able to
find
another way around this...

For new messages, press ENTER only at the end of a paragraph. OE does
not apply wrapping as you type but rather as the message is written to
the outbox or drafts folder.

If you go back and edit a saved message, the wrapping will get screwed
up if you insert or delete text. The only way to fix that is to put
back together the rest of the paragraph but deleting the carriage
returns at the end of each line after the insert/delete point to the end
of the paragraph.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Sarah" wrote in message
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My own outgoing messages have irregular line breaks, no matter where I
set my wrap. Lines are of varying lengths for no apparent reason.
If I edit the outgoing message to get rid of ridiculously short lines,
by hitting delete to get rid of what would be hard or soft returns in
word processing, the same or a different stupid line break gets in.

I just had two message go out looking just awful, with no logic to the
right "margin" at all. (I'd copy them but the subject matter is not
one I am inclined to share, since it involves other people's financial
matters.)

Is there anything I can do to force OE to wrap correctly?

Sarah

"Sarah" wrote in message
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My own outgoing messages have irregular line breaks, no
matter where I set my wrap. Lines are of varying lengths
for no apparent reason.


Tip: before pressing Send, maximize your composition window
in order to expose the presence of any truncated lines.
E.g. when you use a specific linesize you must ensure that all
your paragraphs flow continuously; otherwise the lines written
in Drafts or the Outbox will be short.



If I edit the outgoing message to
get rid of ridiculously short lines, by hitting delete to
get rid of what would be hard or soft returns in word
processing, the same or a different stupid line break gets
in.


Are you reflowing the whole paragraph that those lines are in?
If not and if you want those words left where you put them
you would have to increase your linesize.
Unfortunately, the way the linesize setting works you have
to change it *before* opening the composition window.



I just had two message go out looking just awful, with no
logic to the right "margin" at all. (I'd copy them but the
subject matter is not one I am inclined to share, since it
involves other people's financial matters.)

Is there anything I can do to force OE to wrap correctly?


Provided you always flow your paragraphs and are content
with what your linesize implies how they will be formatted
I think that OE *does* wrap "correctly." The problem is
that we don't always like looking at that formatting.


HTH

Robert
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"Frank" wrote in message
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Is this line break problem in my configuration or the posters?
If mine how do I correct. _See the carats_.


Yours. The problem is that your linesize is less than the poster's.
And if you look at the original post's headers you won't find this header

X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original

(which I just extracted from *your* post. w)

If that header was in the other post you might have different results
even though your linesize is smaller than the original post's linesize.

Unfortunately, it may not be as simple as that either.
E.g. I suspect that, in addition to that header, in order to reflow
the quoted material there has to be a trailing blank on each line.
However, you may be able to force such a reflow by ensuring
that each quoted line you wish to reflow had a trailing blank
and adding one if necessary. (E.g. press End on each line
and press Space if there isn't already a space after the last
character in the line.)

In fact, that is why I have a problem with Format=Flowed.
You see, I still use linesize=132 (the max) and do my own formatting.
Here is an excerpt of something I previously wrote about that:

excerpt
the Format=Flowed feature with *my* line length would have
reformatted my quotes from *your* short lines into my *long* lines
*after* I sent my reply. In order to deal with this I have to consistently
examine the Properties of each reply in my Outbox, checking if the above
header is present. When I find it I have to reopen the message and
replace the unwanted formatting with what I originally wrote.
This happens often enough that I have developed a regular procedure
when posting online: Ctrl-a,Ctrl-c,Alt-F,W,Alt-S. Provided I don't
accidentally change the contents of my Clipboard before finding
that I need to fix the reply I can do that easily by opening it,
selecting it all, and pasting the old contents over the selected.
E.g. Ctrl-a,Ctrl-v. Fortunately, the Format=Flowed; Response
header then changes into a Format=Flowed; Original header
and my formatting is thus left alone.
/excerpt

BTW Roland has a zap to registry available if you would
like to try avoiding Format=Flowed altogether
but then you would be back to the old problem of always
having to have a larger linesize than your original poster's.
eg


FYI

Robert Aldwinckle
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Back again now ready to put my personal files and settings on the
second
^^^^^^^^^


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"Robert Aldwinckle" schrieb:

BTW Roland has a zap to registry available if you would
like to try avoiding Format=Flowed altogether
but then you would be back to the old problem of always
having to have a larger linesize than your original poster's.
eg

An easily resolved problem with a linesize of 132! As opposed to checking
each message's properties ere replying, I should think. g

OE-Quotefix is the easiest solution available, especially for users who
might not want to go editing the registry. But those who want to can disable
F=F here for all users:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express: "Disable RFC2646
Wrapping"=dword:00000001
Or in HKCU for the current user.

Thanks for elaborating on the context, Robert, I was avoiding this
cumbersome task in English which I already dread to exercise in German. ;-)

Saludos
Roland
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Vista 5472 Ultimate x86 German - clean install