Actually, that message looked better than many that go out.
I had set my news Send wrap to 60, since at 76 some lines
were so much longer than others.
My email Send options are set at 76 at the moment, so the
differences in line length are greater than this - but this
is bad enough. In order for the line lengths as shown in
Bruce's message to stay longer than 60, I just put my news
Send back to 76.

As it appears in my Sent folder, (hoping it stays that way
when it gets to the group!)the word "get" at the beginning
of the 5th line could have been at the end of the fourth
line.

My own outgoing messages have irregular line breaks, no
matter where I set my wrap. Lines are of varying lengths
for no apparent reason. If I edit the outgoing message to
get rid of ridiculously short lines, by hitting delete to
get rid of what would be hard or soft returns in word
processing, the same or a different stupid line break gets
in.

As it appeared in Bruce's reply, the line breaks are still
goofy:

My own outgoing messages have irregular line breaks, no
matter where I set my wrap. Lines are of varying lengths
for no apparent reason. If I edit the outgoing message to
get rid of ridiculously short lines, by hitting delete to
get rid of what would be hard or soft returns in word
processing, the same or a different stupid line break gets
in.

In the message as it got to the group, there is no reason
the word "the" on the third line could not have been at the
end of the second line. Same story for the word "delete" in
the fourth line - why isn't it at the end of the third line?
Well, except I notice now that the first line is much longer
than 60! How does a message I send at 60 get changed by the
recipient's setting?

And, back to my original problem - is there any way to
encourage OE to wrap correctly?

Sarah

Ah, it didn't work. The line breaks in Bruce's copy of my paragraph are in
totally different places than they appear in my message, even though I used
copy and paste to get his copy into my message. The line breaks are bad in
all versions, however.

Sarah

OE-QuoteFix:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Sarah" wrote in message
...
Actually, that message looked better than many that go out. I had set my
news Send wrap to 60, since at 76 some lines were so much longer than
others.
My email Send options are set at 76 at the moment, so the differences in
line length are greater than this - but this is bad enough. In order for
the line lengths as shown in Bruce's message to stay longer than 60, I
just put my news Send back to 76.

As it appears in my Sent folder, (hoping it stays that way when it gets to
the group!)the word "get" at the beginning of the 5th line could have been
at the end of the fourth line.

My own outgoing messages have irregular line breaks, no
matter where I set my wrap. Lines are of varying lengths
for no apparent reason. If I edit the outgoing message to
get rid of ridiculously short lines, by hitting delete to
get rid of what would be hard or soft returns in word
processing, the same or a different stupid line break gets
in.

As it appeared in Bruce's reply, the line breaks are still goofy:

My own outgoing messages have irregular line breaks, no matter where I
set my wrap. Lines are of varying lengths for no apparent reason. If I
edit the outgoing message to get rid of ridiculously short lines, by
hitting delete to get rid of what would be hard or soft returns in word
processing, the same or a different stupid line break gets in.

In the message as it got to the group, there is no reason the word "the"
on the third line could not have been at the end of the second line. Same
story for the word "delete" in the fourth line - why isn't it at the end
of the third line? Well, except I notice now that the first line is much
longer than 60! How does a message I send at 60 get changed by the
recipient's setting?

And, back to my original problem - is there any way to encourage OE to
wrap correctly?

Sarah

Bruce suggested I read about OE-QuoteFix:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

That information is helpful, but my main problem is not in the changes that
quoting causes. That just happened to occur in this series of messages.
Normally, I do not include entire old messages in my outgoing messages. In
fact, I do not permit it in an email group I run.

My problem is in my own original outgoing email messages. My new messages
that I send to others have greatly varying line lengths, no matter where
I've set my wrap length. It makes me crazy to have to edit the line breaks
repeatedly or else appalls me when I see how others receive my messages if I
don't take that time to edit over and over again.

Sarah

Are you only sending plain text messages?
Line length settings only apply to plain text messages.

What font are you using to compose your messages?

Do you copy and paste or do all new typing?

Have you ever tried Quoted Printable? Tools, Options, Send, Mail, Plain
text settings, Message sending format.
--
Ron Sommer

"Sarah" wrote in message
...
Bruce suggested I read about OE-QuoteFix:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

That information is helpful, but my main problem is not in the changes
that
quoting causes. That just happened to occur in this series of messages.
Normally, I do not include entire old messages in my outgoing messages.
In
fact, I do not permit it in an email group I run.

My problem is in my own original outgoing email messages. My new messages
that I send to others have greatly varying line lengths, no matter where
I've set my wrap length. It makes me crazy to have to edit the line
breaks
repeatedly or else appalls me when I see how others receive my messages if
I
don't take that time to edit over and over again.

Sarah

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Are you only sending plain text messages?
Yes

Line length settings only apply to plain text messages.
72

What font are you using to compose your messages?
9

Do you copy and paste or do all new typing?
Rarely paste

Have you ever tried Quoted Printable? Tools, Options, Send, Mail,
Plain
Was using uuencode. Now trying quoted printable.

text settings, Message sending format.
I use all text. Read and sending

--
Ron Sommer

"Sarah" wrote in message
...
Bruce suggested I read about OE-QuoteFix:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

That information is helpful, but my main problem is not in the
changes
that
quoting causes. That just happened to occur in this series of
messages.
Normally, I do not include entire old messages in my outgoing
messages.
In
fact, I do not permit it in an email group I run.

My problem is in my own original outgoing email messages. My new
messages
that I send to others have greatly varying line lengths, no matter
where
I've set my wrap length. It makes me crazy to have to edit the line
breaks
repeatedly or else appalls me when I see how others receive my
messages if
I
don't take that time to edit over and over again.

Sarah

"Frank" wrote in message
...
:
: "Ron Sommer" wrote in message
: ...
: Are you only sending plain text messages?
: Yes
:
: Line length settings only apply to plain text messages.
: 72
:
: What font are you using to compose your messages?
: 9

What is the name of the font?

:
: Do you copy and paste or do all new typing?
: Rarely paste
:
: Have you ever tried Quoted Printable? Tools, Options, Send, Mail,
: Plain
: Was using uuencode. Now trying quoted printable.
:
: text settings, Message sending format.
: I use all text. Read and sending
:
: --
: Ron Sommer
:
: "Sarah" wrote in message
: ...
: Bruce suggested I read about OE-QuoteFix:
: http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
:
: That information is helpful, but my main problem is not in the
: changes
: that
: quoting causes. That just happened to occur in this series of
: messages.
: Normally, I do not include entire old messages in my outgoing
: messages.
: In
: fact, I do not permit it in an email group I run.
:
: My problem is in my own original outgoing email messages. My new
: messages
: that I send to others have greatly varying line lengths, no matter
: where
: I've set my wrap length. It makes me crazy to have to edit the line
: breaks
: repeatedly or else appalls me when I see how others receive my
: messages if
: I
: don't take that time to edit over and over again.
:
: Sarah
:
:
:
:
:
:

Buenas tardes: *Frank* escribió:
"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...

Have you ever tried Quoted Printable? Tools, Options, Send, Mail,
Plain

Was using uuencode. Now trying quoted printable.

I would not recommend using quoted-printable because of this:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#replychars

Best use MIME with Textencoding:None. Should not have any influence on
wrapping, anyways.

Saludos
Roland
--
Probleme mit OE? Hier gibt es die Lösungen: http://oe-faq.de!
"Diejenigen, die zu klug sind, um sich in der Politik zu engagieren, werden
dadurch bestraft, daß sie von Leuten regiert werden, die dümmer sind als sie."
(Platon)

What does quoted text have to do with quoted printable?
Quoted printable does not use wrapping. The text fills the width of the
window.

"Roland Bierlein" wrote in message
...
: Buenas tardes: *Frank* escribió:
: "Ron Sommer" wrote in message
: ...
:
: Have you ever tried Quoted Printable? Tools, Options, Send, Mail,
: Plain
:
: Was using uuencode. Now trying quoted printable.
:
: I would not recommend using quoted-printable because of this:
: http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#replychars
:
: Best use MIME with Textencoding:None. Should not have any influence on
: wrapping, anyways.
:
: Saludos
: Roland
: --
: Probleme mit OE? Hier gibt es die Lösungen: http://oe-faq.de!
: "Diejenigen, die zu klug sind, um sich in der Politik zu engagieren,
werden
: dadurch bestraft, daß sie von Leuten regiert werden, die dümmer sind als
sie."
:
(Platon)

OEQuoteFix doesn't get the job done either.

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
OE-QuoteFix:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Sarah" wrote in message
...
Actually, that message looked better than many that go out. I had set
my news Send wrap to 60, since at 76 some lines were so much longer
than others.
My email Send options are set at 76 at the moment, so the differences
in line length are greater than this - but this is bad enough. In
order for the line lengths as shown in Bruce's message to stay longer
than 60, I just put my news Send back to 76.

As it appears in my Sent folder, (hoping it stays that way when it
gets to the group!)the word "get" at the beginning of the 5th line
could have been at the end of the fourth line.

My own outgoing messages have irregular line breaks, no
matter where I set my wrap. Lines are of varying lengths
for no apparent reason. If I edit the outgoing message to
get rid of ridiculously short lines, by hitting delete to
get rid of what would be hard or soft returns in word
processing, the same or a different stupid line break gets
in.

As it appeared in Bruce's reply, the line breaks are still goofy:

My own outgoing messages have irregular line breaks, no matter where
I set my wrap. Lines are of varying lengths for no apparent
reason. If I edit the outgoing message to get rid of ridiculously
short lines, by hitting delete to get rid of what would be hard or
soft returns in word processing, the same or a different stupid line
break gets in.

In the message as it got to the group, there is no reason the word
"the" on the third line could not have been at the end of the second
line. Same story for the word "delete" in the fourth line - why
isn't it at the end of the third line? Well, except I notice now that
the first line is much longer than 60! How does a message I send at
60 get changed by the recipient's setting?

And, back to my original problem - is there any way to encourage OE
to wrap correctly?

Sarah