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Old September 3rd 06, 11:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Denis Leveille
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Default How to stop OE from compacting messages?

For the last few weeks, every time I stop OE it asks if I want to compact
messages. How can I stop OE from always asking me this question?


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Old September 3rd 06, 11:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
DGuess
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Default How to stop OE from compacting messages?

"Denis Leveille" wrote in message
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For the last few weeks, every time I stop OE it asks if I want to compact
messages. How can I stop OE from always asking me this question?



OE will compact every 100 times.
Go get the OETool, from http://www.oehelp.com and reset the compact check
count via that method insteadof having to edit the setting in the registry.
A whole lot easier.


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Old September 3rd 06, 11:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear
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Default How to stop OE from compacting messages?

You can't (without uninstalling SP2). See this recent thread in this newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...fb79043c6d4eb6
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~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
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Denis Leveille wrote:

For the last few weeks, every time I stop OE it asks if I want to compact
messages. How can I stop OE from always asking me this question?
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Old September 4th 06, 03:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
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Default How to stop OE from compacting messages?

See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2 There is an update for the compaction
issue. Install the update and then compact the folders manually and then OE
won't ask again until 100 closings of OE. Compaction is important to
minimize file size and to keep the message store stable and efficient. It
doesn't "compress", it just frees up empty space in the file.

steve

"Denis Leveille" wrote in message
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For the last few weeks, every time I stop OE it asks if I want to compact
messages. How can I stop OE from always asking me this question?


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Old September 5th 06, 01:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Ursula
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Default How do I recover msgs deleted when compacting messages?


Hi,
I'm new to the forum, and I'm sorry I can't figure out how to initiate a new
msg.
My question has to do with compaction. I authorized compaction when I shut
down last night, and it deleted all of the msgs in my inbox since March.
My inbox is full, and I have been cleaning it up, but it has deleted
important msgs related to dog rescue, so I would really like to have them
back.
Has anyone else dealt with this? I do not have it set to delete when
compacting.
Thank you, Ursula


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2 There is an update for the compaction
issue. Install the update and then compact the folders manually and then OE
won't ask again until 100 closings of OE. Compaction is important to
minimize file size and to keep the message store stable and efficient. It
doesn't "compress", it just frees up empty space in the file.

steve

"Denis Leveille" wrote in message
...
For the last few weeks, every time I stop OE it asks if I want to compact
messages. How can I stop OE from always asking me this question?


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Old September 5th 06, 10:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
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Default How do I recover msgs deleted when compacting messages?

"Ursula" wrote in message
...

Hi,
I'm new to the forum, and I'm sorry I can't figure out how to initiate a
new
msg.
My question has to do with compaction. I authorized compaction when I shut
down last night, and it deleted all of the msgs in my inbox since March.
My inbox is full, and I have been cleaning it up, but it has deleted
important msgs related to dog rescue, so I would really like to have them
back.
Has anyone else dealt with this? I do not have it set to delete when
compacting.
Thank you, Ursula



If you authorized compaction and shut down the computer without waiting for
the compaction to complete that caused message loss.

Compacting of folders is necessary or they will become corrupted or else so
large that they can no longer be used. Deleting a message does not reclaim
the space. The message is marked as deleted but is still there until the
folder is compacted. That is why programs such as DBXtract work.

If a user closes compacting while compacting is in progress data loss will
probably occur.

Don't store messages in the default OE folders. Move them to user created
folders as soon as possible.

Open OE and close it and let it compact the messages. After doing this it
won't ask again until you have closed OE 100 times.

If you have WinXP SP2 you will want this update:
There are two articles, KB918766 and KB918651, but the latter is not
currently available. The download link is
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

It places the backup in Recycled, overwriting any earlier backup of the
same folder(s). To use it, copy it to the store folder, delete the one you
want to replace and then rename the BAK file to DBX. (It's a bit more
complicated if the messed up DBX file isn't there or contains messages that
are hew that you want to keep.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"


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Old September 6th 06, 08:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Ursula
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Default How do I recover msgs deleted when compacting messages?

Hi Frank,
Thank you for the information for the future. I'll make sure to put msgs
into my "own" folders, and will look at those updates.
However, I did not shut down the computer while it was compacting. I don't
shut down this computer because the switch is fickle. I only close the mail
program.
And, I still need to know how to retrieve those emails for my rescue work.
Has anyone been successful in doing that, and how?
Thank you, Ursula

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote:

"Ursula" wrote in message
...

Hi,
I'm new to the forum, and I'm sorry I can't figure out how to initiate a
new
msg.
My question has to do with compaction. I authorized compaction when I shut
down last night, and it deleted all of the msgs in my inbox since March.
My inbox is full, and I have been cleaning it up, but it has deleted
important msgs related to dog rescue, so I would really like to have them
back.
Has anyone else dealt with this? I do not have it set to delete when
compacting.
Thank you, Ursula



If you authorized compaction and shut down the computer without waiting for
the compaction to complete that caused message loss.

Compacting of folders is necessary or they will become corrupted or else so
large that they can no longer be used. Deleting a message does not reclaim
the space. The message is marked as deleted but is still there until the
folder is compacted. That is why programs such as DBXtract work.

If a user closes compacting while compacting is in progress data loss will
probably occur.

Don't store messages in the default OE folders. Move them to user created
folders as soon as possible.

Open OE and close it and let it compact the messages. After doing this it
won't ask again until you have closed OE 100 times.

If you have WinXP SP2 you will want this update:
There are two articles, KB918766 and KB918651, but the latter is not
currently available. The download link is
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

It places the backup in Recycled, overwriting any earlier backup of the
same folder(s). To use it, copy it to the store folder, delete the one you
want to replace and then rename the BAK file to DBX. (It's a bit more
complicated if the messed up DBX file isn't there or contains messages that
are hew that you want to keep.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"



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Old September 6th 06, 12:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
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Default How do I recover msgs deleted when compacting messages?

You might be able to recover them with DBXpress's extract from disk function
(www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/).

Also see points 2, 3, and 4 he www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx

steve

"Ursula" wrote in message
...
Hi Frank,
Thank you for the information for the future. I'll make sure to put msgs
into my "own" folders, and will look at those updates.
However, I did not shut down the computer while it was compacting. I don't
shut down this computer because the switch is fickle. I only close the
mail
program.
And, I still need to know how to retrieve those emails for my rescue work.
Has anyone been successful in doing that, and how?
Thank you, Ursula

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote:

"Ursula" wrote in message
...

Hi,
I'm new to the forum, and I'm sorry I can't figure out how to initiate
a
new
msg.
My question has to do with compaction. I authorized compaction when I
shut
down last night, and it deleted all of the msgs in my inbox since
March.
My inbox is full, and I have been cleaning it up, but it has deleted
important msgs related to dog rescue, so I would really like to have
them
back.
Has anyone else dealt with this? I do not have it set to delete when
compacting.
Thank you, Ursula



If you authorized compaction and shut down the computer without waiting
for
the compaction to complete that caused message loss.

Compacting of folders is necessary or they will become corrupted or else
so
large that they can no longer be used. Deleting a message does not
reclaim
the space. The message is marked as deleted but is still there until the
folder is compacted. That is why programs such as DBXtract work.

If a user closes compacting while compacting is in progress data loss
will
probably occur.

Don't store messages in the default OE folders. Move them to user
created
folders as soon as possible.

Open OE and close it and let it compact the messages. After doing this
it
won't ask again until you have closed OE 100 times.

If you have WinXP SP2 you will want this update:
There are two articles, KB918766 and KB918651, but the latter is not
currently available. The download link is
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

It places the backup in Recycled, overwriting any earlier backup of the
same folder(s). To use it, copy it to the store folder, delete the one
you
want to replace and then rename the BAK file to DBX. (It's a bit more
complicated if the messed up DBX file isn't there or contains messages
that
are hew that you want to keep.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve
neither liberty or security"




 




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