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  #1  
Old September 7th 06, 07:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Oppie
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Default problem resetting newsgroup list

I subscribe to several usenet providers and on some, have trouble refreshing
the list of available groups.

When connected to news.microsoft.com for instance, resetting the list
[tools - newsgroups - reset list] goes through within seconds.

When connected through news.teranews.com it can take several hours to
complete. there are something like 75000 groups on this server. OE will
start downloading the list of groups and when it gets to about 55,000 the
download stalls and the disc access light keeps flashing. Task manager shows
that msimn.exe is taking about 97% of the cpu time. Sometimes it will
complete normally and others it will keep hanging even after letting it run
overnight.

Any ideas what this is and how to keep it from hanging? The teranews server
has dropped some of its groups so I wanted to refresh the list.

TIA - Oppie


  #2  
Old September 7th 06, 08:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Michael Santovec
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Default problem resetting newsgroup list

Try doing a File, Folders, Compact ALL before doing the Reset List.

The newsgroup list is stored in the Folders.DBX file. That file may
have become bloated

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Oppie" wrote in message
...
I subscribe to several usenet providers and on some, have trouble
refreshing the list of available groups.

When connected to news.microsoft.com for instance, resetting the list
[tools - newsgroups - reset list] goes through within seconds.

When connected through news.teranews.com it can take several hours to
complete. there are something like 75000 groups on this server. OE
will start downloading the list of groups and when it gets to about
55,000 the download stalls and the disc access light keeps flashing.
Task manager shows that msimn.exe is taking about 97% of the cpu time.
Sometimes it will complete normally and others it will keep hanging
even after letting it run overnight.

Any ideas what this is and how to keep it from hanging? The teranews
server has dropped some of its groups so I wanted to refresh the list.

TIA - Oppie



  #3  
Old September 7th 06, 09:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Oppie
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Default problem resetting newsgroup list

Michael,

Did as you wrote. OE now opens faster which is nice but the reset list
hang-up is still there. I got up to 54351 groups (and most of them are bogus
which ticks me off...) and the file to file animation above the group count
freezes. Trying to do anything in OE gives Not Responding in top bar.

Any other ideas? I have seen this on other machines with Win98 and OE6 as
well as my main machine which is XP Pro, HP/Compaq D220mt.

Also another item. [tools - Options - maintenance - Clean up now] only seems
to clean up the newsgroups that I am subscribed to. Any groups browsed
without subscribing leave dbx files behind. Is there any way to
automatically clean these or must I manually delete any large dbx files?

Thanks again,
Oppie

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Try doing a File, Folders, Compact ALL before doing the Reset List.

The newsgroup list is stored in the Folders.DBX file. That file may have
become bloated

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Oppie" wrote in message
...
I subscribe to several usenet providers and on some, have trouble
refreshing the list of available groups.

When connected to news.microsoft.com for instance, resetting the list
[tools - newsgroups - reset list] goes through within seconds.

When connected through news.teranews.com it can take several hours to
complete. there are something like 75000 groups on this server. OE will
start downloading the list of groups and when it gets to about 55,000 the
download stalls and the disc access light keeps flashing. Task manager
shows that msimn.exe is taking about 97% of the cpu time. Sometimes it
will complete normally and others it will keep hanging even after letting
it run overnight.

Any ideas what this is and how to keep it from hanging? The teranews
server has dropped some of its groups so I wanted to refresh the list.

TIA - Oppie





  #4  
Old September 7th 06, 09:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Jim Pickering
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Default problem resetting newsgroup list

The problem has been around for some time with news server that host many
newsgroups. One added thing to try (if running Windows XP) is to start the
system in "Safe Mode with Networking support" which blocks many 3rd party
programs from running. Then try the reset of the newsgroup list. For added
info about the problem, see the info at this link:
http://www.insideoe.com/tips/slownews.htm
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.



"Oppie" wrote in message
...
Michael,

Did as you wrote. OE now opens faster which is nice but the reset list
hang-up is still there. I got up to 54351 groups (and most of them are
bogus which ticks me off...) and the file to file animation above the
group count freezes. Trying to do anything in OE gives Not Responding in
top bar.

Any other ideas? I have seen this on other machines with Win98 and OE6 as
well as my main machine which is XP Pro, HP/Compaq D220mt.

Also another item. [tools - Options - maintenance - Clean up now] only
seems to clean up the newsgroups that I am subscribed to. Any groups
browsed without subscribing leave dbx files behind. Is there any way to
automatically clean these or must I manually delete any large dbx files?

Thanks again,
Oppie

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Try doing a File, Folders, Compact ALL before doing the Reset List.

The newsgroup list is stored in the Folders.DBX file. That file may have
become bloated

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Oppie" wrote in message
...
I subscribe to several usenet providers and on some, have trouble
refreshing the list of available groups.

When connected to news.microsoft.com for instance, resetting the list
[tools - newsgroups - reset list] goes through within seconds.

When connected through news.teranews.com it can take several hours to
complete. there are something like 75000 groups on this server. OE will
start downloading the list of groups and when it gets to about 55,000
the download stalls and the disc access light keeps flashing. Task
manager shows that msimn.exe is taking about 97% of the cpu time.
Sometimes it will complete normally and others it will keep hanging even
after letting it run overnight.

Any ideas what this is and how to keep it from hanging? The teranews
server has dropped some of its groups so I wanted to refresh the list.

TIA - Oppie






  #5  
Old September 8th 06, 12:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Oppie
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Default problem resetting newsgroup list

Restarted XP in safe mode with network support - added benefit, Trend Micro
antivirus did not run. Still hung up though in resetting list. sigh

The insideOE link looks interesting - thanks. will read through it.

In the mean time, I'm going to leave the system trying to reset the list
overnight. Sometimes it does complete.


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The problem has been around for some time with news server that host many
newsgroups. One added thing to try (if running Windows XP) is to start
the system in "Safe Mode with Networking support" which blocks many 3rd
party programs from running. Then try the reset of the newsgroup list.
For added info about the problem, see the info at this link:
http://www.insideoe.com/tips/slownews.htm
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.



"Oppie" wrote in message
...
Michael,

Did as you wrote. OE now opens faster which is nice but the reset list
hang-up is still there. I got up to 54351 groups (and most of them are
bogus which ticks me off...) and the file to file animation above the
group count freezes. Trying to do anything in OE gives Not Responding in
top bar.

Any other ideas? I have seen this on other machines with Win98 and OE6 as
well as my main machine which is XP Pro, HP/Compaq D220mt.

Also another item. [tools - Options - maintenance - Clean up now] only
seems to clean up the newsgroups that I am subscribed to. Any groups
browsed without subscribing leave dbx files behind. Is there any way to
automatically clean these or must I manually delete any large dbx files?

Thanks again,
Oppie

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Try doing a File, Folders, Compact ALL before doing the Reset List.

The newsgroup list is stored in the Folders.DBX file. That file may
have become bloated

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Oppie" wrote in message
...
I subscribe to several usenet providers and on some, have trouble
refreshing the list of available groups.

When connected to news.microsoft.com for instance, resetting the list
[tools - newsgroups - reset list] goes through within seconds.

When connected through news.teranews.com it can take several hours to
complete. there are something like 75000 groups on this server. OE will
start downloading the list of groups and when it gets to about 55,000
the download stalls and the disc access light keeps flashing. Task
manager shows that msimn.exe is taking about 97% of the cpu time.
Sometimes it will complete normally and others it will keep hanging
even after letting it run overnight.

Any ideas what this is and how to keep it from hanging? The teranews
server has dropped some of its groups so I wanted to refresh the list.

TIA - Oppie








  #6  
Old September 8th 06, 01:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Jim Pickering
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Posts: 653
Default problem resetting newsgroup list

Let us know if you get it. Large newsgroup lists require an awful lot of
memory to download so if you let it run for an extended period, it may work
out. Let's hope so.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.




"Oppie" wrote in message
...
Restarted XP in safe mode with network support - added benefit, Trend
Micro antivirus did not run. Still hung up though in resetting list.
sigh

The insideOE link looks interesting - thanks. will read through it.

In the mean time, I'm going to leave the system trying to reset the list
overnight. Sometimes it does complete.


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The problem has been around for some time with news server that host many
newsgroups. One added thing to try (if running Windows XP) is to start
the system in "Safe Mode with Networking support" which blocks many 3rd
party programs from running. Then try the reset of the newsgroup list.
For added info about the problem, see the info at this link:
http://www.insideoe.com/tips/slownews.htm


 




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