Yes, it should be empty. But on the other hand, if there was a problem like
we have been trying to fix, at worst, the last 15 days should be repeatedly
downloaded, and not two years of messages.

That's why I feel it will most likely be an ISP issue. Those messages more
than 15 days old, shouldn't be on the server at all.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
You said to download the message after deleting the Pop3uid folder, and
there are some 16,000 messages that haven't downloaded yet. Am I correct
that if I remove the check mark from "leave messages on the server" then
after the download completes then the server should be empty. Correct?
Thanks for your help.

JCW
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
You removed the check mark to Leave a copy on the server and you still
get the messages?

I believe this will end up being an issue with your ISP. If you want, you
can try one more thing that I can think of.

You may have a damaged identity especially if it is the default Main
Identity. File | Identity | Add New Identity. Create a new one and test
it. If all is well, you can import your messages from the old identity
and delete it.

How to Create and Use Identities in Outlook Express
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=209169

Since you have been downloading and deleting so many messages, you would
be well advised to compact your folders. And since you are having
problems, I would suggest you back the message up first.

If you are not using an up-to-date version of XP/SP2:

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

If you have an up-to-date XP/SP2, download this patch. Among other
things, it will create a backup of your dbx files in your Recycle Bin
automatically when you compact.

Patch KB918766:
http://tinyurl.com/mx3r2

This patch addresses some of the issues that were caused by KB911567.

Address Book problems.
Unsent templates appearing as sent.
Manually compacting will now reset the registry counter to Zero in
WinXP/SP2 and also sends a copy of your dbx files to the recycle bin as a
temporary backup.

To complete the fix for .eml templates, a registry change is needed. See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918766

Tom Koch also has this information at his site, along with a downloadable
Zip file to do the registry change for you. See:
http://www.insideoe.com/#kb918651
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
The download started but with emails dated to Oct 05. I have delegated
the
delivery option to remove from the server after 15 days and also to
delete
from the server after deleting from the Deleted items folder. Can you
tell
me what to do to avoid all these emails short of contacting the ISP and
asking them to do it. What am I doing wrong? Thanks again...
JCW
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
If Send/Receive doesn't get them, then close and reopen OE. If you
still
don't get them, you have your backup, but send a test message to
yourself
to make sure you get that message, and only that message.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
I deleted the Pop3uidl.dbx as directed and the messages haven't
downloaded again yet, and I emptied my inbox to a separate folder. Do I
close OE and reopen it to get the new download?

JCW
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Your settings are fine, although the least amount of days is best.

I assume you didn't delete the Pop3uidl.dbx file yet since you ask
about
deleting the Inbox messages.

They should be downloaded again, but let's play it safe. Create a new
folder and move all your Inbox message to it. Assuming you get them
downloaded again, you can just delete the entire new folder. Much
easier
then deleting duplicates in the same folder.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
Thanks Bruce,

Do I delete all the messages in my INBOX or just get the duplicates
and
sort them out later. What settings should I have selected as far as
the
server goes. I indicated in my original message how I had it set up.
Thanks again...
JCW
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
The Pop3uidl.dbx file is probably corrupt. Delete it as per the
instructions below. You will get all the messages downloaded one
more
time, but it should be good after that.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the
folder location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V
will
put the location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files.
Otherwise, write the location down and navigate to it in Windows
Explorer.

In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K03, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by
default marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer,
you
must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control
Panel
| Tools | Folder Options | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools |
Folder Options | View.

With OE closed, find the DBX file in question {Pop3uidl.dbx} and
delete it. A new one will be created automatically when you open
OE.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep
user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as
is
feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders
are open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online
in
the Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
anything until the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a
redundant
layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
problems such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your
up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently.
For
more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
I keep getting messages from 2005 and early 2006 downloaded from my
server. I have checked the boxes Remove from server after 15 days
and
remove from server after deleted from deleted items folder. How can
I
stop this from happening? I have asked that messages be left on the
server for 15 days but I am getting close to 10,000 emails
downloaded
everytime I click send and receive. Thanks in advance..

JCW

Bruce,
After a couple of attempts my messages that are on the server keep stopping
and starting over. There are over 16,000 messages dating back to Oct 2005.
Do you have any suggestions? Thanks

JCW
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Yes, it should be empty. But on the other hand, if there was a problem
like we have been trying to fix, at worst, the last 15 days should be
repeatedly downloaded, and not two years of messages.

That's why I feel it will most likely be an ISP issue. Those messages more
than 15 days old, shouldn't be on the server at all.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
You said to download the message after deleting the Pop3uid folder, and
there are some 16,000 messages that haven't downloaded yet. Am I correct
that if I remove the check mark from "leave messages on the server" then
after the download completes then the server should be empty. Correct?
Thanks for your help.

JCW
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
You removed the check mark to Leave a copy on the server and you still
get the messages?

I believe this will end up being an issue with your ISP. If you want,
you can try one more thing that I can think of.

You may have a damaged identity especially if it is the default Main
Identity. File | Identity | Add New Identity. Create a new one and test
it. If all is well, you can import your messages from the old identity
and delete it.

How to Create and Use Identities in Outlook Express
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=209169

Since you have been downloading and deleting so many messages, you would
be well advised to compact your folders. And since you are having
problems, I would suggest you back the message up first.

If you are not using an up-to-date version of XP/SP2:

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

If you have an up-to-date XP/SP2, download this patch. Among other
things, it will create a backup of your dbx files in your Recycle Bin
automatically when you compact.

Patch KB918766:
http://tinyurl.com/mx3r2

This patch addresses some of the issues that were caused by KB911567.

Address Book problems.
Unsent templates appearing as sent.
Manually compacting will now reset the registry counter to Zero in
WinXP/SP2 and also sends a copy of your dbx files to the recycle bin as
a temporary backup.

To complete the fix for .eml templates, a registry change is needed.
See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918766

Tom Koch also has this information at his site, along with a
downloadable Zip file to do the registry change for you. See:
http://www.insideoe.com/#kb918651
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
The download started but with emails dated to Oct 05. I have delegated
the
delivery option to remove from the server after 15 days and also to
delete
from the server after deleting from the Deleted items folder. Can you
tell
me what to do to avoid all these emails short of contacting the ISP and
asking them to do it. What am I doing wrong? Thanks again...
JCW
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
If Send/Receive doesn't get them, then close and reopen OE. If you
still
don't get them, you have your backup, but send a test message to
yourself
to make sure you get that message, and only that message.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
I deleted the Pop3uidl.dbx as directed and the messages haven't
downloaded again yet, and I emptied my inbox to a separate folder. Do
I
close OE and reopen it to get the new download?

JCW
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Your settings are fine, although the least amount of days is best.

I assume you didn't delete the Pop3uidl.dbx file yet since you ask
about
deleting the Inbox messages.

They should be downloaded again, but let's play it safe. Create a
new
folder and move all your Inbox message to it. Assuming you get them
downloaded again, you can just delete the entire new folder. Much
easier
then deleting duplicates in the same folder.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
Thanks Bruce,

Do I delete all the messages in my INBOX or just get the duplicates
and
sort them out later. What settings should I have selected as far as
the
server goes. I indicated in my original message how I had it set
up.
Thanks again...
JCW
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
The Pop3uidl.dbx file is probably corrupt. Delete it as per the
instructions below. You will get all the messages downloaded one
more
time, but it should be good after that.

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location
of your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the
folder location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V
will
put the location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE
files.
Otherwise, write the location down and navigate to it in Windows
Explorer.

In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K03, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by
default marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer,
you
must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control
Panel
| Tools | Folder Options | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools |
Folder Options | View.

With OE closed, find the DBX file in question {Pop3uidl.dbx} and
delete it. A new one will be created automatically when you open
OE.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep
user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as
is
feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders
are open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working
Online in
the Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
anything until the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a
redundant
layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
problems such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your
up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently.
For
more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
I keep getting messages from 2005 and early 2006 downloaded from
my
server. I have checked the boxes Remove from server after 15 days
and
remove from server after deleted from deleted items folder. How
can I
stop this from happening? I have asked that messages be left on
the
server for 15 days but I am getting close to 10,000 emails
downloaded
everytime I click send and receive. Thanks in advance..

JCW

"JCW" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
After a couple of attempts my messages that are on the server keep
stopping and starting over. There are over 16,000 messages dating back to
Oct 2005. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks


Create a new Identity in OE and download the account there.
Or else go to the account's Web mail site and delete them there.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com

And what would that website be. I am using SBC?Yahoo.
JCW


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM"



wrote in message
...
"JCW" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
After a couple of attempts my messages that are on the server keep
stopping and starting over. There are over 16,000 messages dating back to
Oct 2005. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks


Create a new Identity in OE and download the account there.
Or else go to the account's Web mail site and delete them there.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com

Frank,
I did as you suggested but it does the same thing. Starts the download of
15,764 emails then stops at some point, then starts again at 1 of 15,764
meaning doubles then triples etc. Any other ideas? How can I get to the
server and have them delete the messages?

JCW
"JCW" wrote in message
...
And what would that website be. I am using SBC?Yahoo.
JCW


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM"



wrote in message
...
"JCW" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
After a couple of attempts my messages that are on the server keep
stopping and starting over. There are over 16,000 messages dating back
to Oct 2005. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks


Create a new Identity in OE and download the account there.
Or else go to the account's Web mail site and delete them there.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com

Any other suggestions. I even had a support chat session with a at&t /yahoo
person who didn't give me any help. After letting all 16,000 email download,
and made sure the settings were correct. I opened OE and the download
started all over again at 1 going to 16,000. Any other advice would be
appreciated.

JCW
"JCW" wrote in message
...
Frank,
I did as you suggested but it does the same thing. Starts the download of
15,764 emails then stops at some point, then starts again at 1 of 15,764
meaning doubles then triples etc. Any other ideas? How can I get to the
server and have them delete the messages?

JCW
"JCW" wrote in message
...
And what would that website be. I am using SBC?Yahoo.
JCW


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM"



wrote in message
...
"JCW" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
After a couple of attempts my messages that are on the server keep
stopping and starting over. There are over 16,000 messages dating back
to Oct 2005. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks


Create a new Identity in OE and download the account there.
Or else go to the account's Web mail site and delete them there.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com

I think you answered your own question in this last post. Get a new ISP!

This is the Logon site for you, but any ISP worth 2¢ could have deleted the
messages for you. Those messages should not be on the server and AT&T Yahoo
is giving you the run-around.

Logon:
http://login.yahoo.com/config/login?...sbc.yahoo.com/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
Any other suggestions. I even had a support chat session with a at&t
/yahoo person who didn't give me any help. After letting all 16,000 email
download, and made sure the settings were correct. I opened OE and the
download started all over again at 1 going to 16,000. Any other advice
would be appreciated.

JCW
"JCW" wrote in message
...
Frank,
I did as you suggested but it does the same thing. Starts the download of
15,764 emails then stops at some point, then starts again at 1 of 15,764
meaning doubles then triples etc. Any other ideas? How can I get to the
server and have them delete the messages?

JCW
"JCW" wrote in message
...
And what would that website be. I am using SBC?Yahoo.
JCW


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM"



wrote in message
...
"JCW" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
After a couple of attempts my messages that are on the server keep
stopping and starting over. There are over 16,000 messages dating back
to Oct 2005. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks


Create a new Identity in OE and download the account there.
Or else go to the account's Web mail site and delete them there.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com

When you have to deal with someone in India or wherever I guess that's what
you get. Anyway, I sent a request to AT&T and will wait for response. In the
meantime is there a way to sort these messages that have multiples? I'm not
concerned with the older ones but the more recent ones that I haven't had a
chance to go through I would like to keep. Thanks for all your help.

JCW
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I think you answered your own question in this last post. Get a new ISP!

This is the Logon site for you, but any ISP worth 2¢ could have deleted
the messages for you. Those messages should not be on the server and AT&T
Yahoo is giving you the run-around.

Logon:
http://login.yahoo.com/config/login?...sbc.yahoo.com/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
Any other suggestions. I even had a support chat session with a at&t
/yahoo person who didn't give me any help. After letting all 16,000 email
download, and made sure the settings were correct. I opened OE and the
download started all over again at 1 going to 16,000. Any other advice
would be appreciated.

JCW
"JCW" wrote in message
...
Frank,
I did as you suggested but it does the same thing. Starts the download
of 15,764 emails then stops at some point, then starts again at 1 of
15,764 meaning doubles then triples etc. Any other ideas? How can I get
to the server and have them delete the messages?

JCW
"JCW" wrote in message
...
And what would that website be. I am using SBC?Yahoo.
JCW


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM"



wrote in message
...
"JCW" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
After a couple of attempts my messages that are on the server keep
stopping and starting over. There are over 16,000 messages dating
back to Oct 2005. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks


Create a new Identity in OE and download the account there.
Or else go to the account's Web mail site and delete them there.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com

Since they are all being downloaded over and over, the only thing you can do
right now is to keep dragging new messages to another folder and deleting
the others. With News rules, you can choose only to download messages going
back a number of days, but that is not an option with Mail rules.

One other thing you can try is to delete the Inbox.dbx file with OE closed.
A new empty Inbox will be created when you open OE. It is located in the
Message Store where the Pop3uidl file was.

I doubt this will help, but it won't hurt to try.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
When you have to deal with someone in India or wherever I guess that's
what you get. Anyway, I sent a request to AT&T and will wait for response.
In the meantime is there a way to sort these messages that have multiples?
I'm not concerned with the older ones but the more recent ones that I
haven't had a chance to go through I would like to keep. Thanks for all
your help.

JCW
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I think you answered your own question in this last post. Get a new ISP!

This is the Logon site for you, but any ISP worth 2¢ could have deleted
the messages for you. Those messages should not be on the server and AT&T
Yahoo is giving you the run-around.

Logon:
http://login.yahoo.com/config/login?...sbc.yahoo.com/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
Any other suggestions. I even had a support chat session with a at&t
/yahoo person who didn't give me any help. After letting all 16,000
email download, and made sure the settings were correct. I opened OE and
the download started all over again at 1 going to 16,000. Any other
advice would be appreciated.

JCW
"JCW" wrote in message
...
Frank,
I did as you suggested but it does the same thing. Starts the download
of 15,764 emails then stops at some point, then starts again at 1 of
15,764 meaning doubles then triples etc. Any other ideas? How can I get
to the server and have them delete the messages?

JCW
"JCW" wrote in message
...
And what would that website be. I am using SBC?Yahoo.
JCW


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM"



wrote in message
...
"JCW" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
After a couple of attempts my messages that are on the server keep
stopping and starting over. There are over 16,000 messages dating
back to Oct 2005. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks


Create a new Identity in OE and download the account there.
Or else go to the account's Web mail site and delete them there.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com

Thanks!
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Since they are all being downloaded over and over, the only thing you can
do right now is to keep dragging new messages to another folder and
deleting the others. With News rules, you can choose only to download
messages going back a number of days, but that is not an option with Mail
rules.

One other thing you can try is to delete the Inbox.dbx file with OE
closed. A new empty Inbox will be created when you open OE. It is located
in the Message Store where the Pop3uidl file was.

I doubt this will help, but it won't hurt to try.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
When you have to deal with someone in India or wherever I guess that's
what you get. Anyway, I sent a request to AT&T and will wait for
response. In the meantime is there a way to sort these messages that have
multiples? I'm not concerned with the older ones but the more recent ones
that I haven't had a chance to go through I would like to keep. Thanks
for all your help.

JCW
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I think you answered your own question in this last post. Get a new ISP!

This is the Logon site for you, but any ISP worth 2¢ could have deleted
the messages for you. Those messages should not be on the server and
AT&T Yahoo is giving you the run-around.

Logon:
http://login.yahoo.com/config/login?...sbc.yahoo.com/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"JCW" wrote in message
...
Any other suggestions. I even had a support chat session with a at&t
/yahoo person who didn't give me any help. After letting all 16,000
email download, and made sure the settings were correct. I opened OE
and the download started all over again at 1 going to 16,000. Any other
advice would be appreciated.

JCW
"JCW" wrote in message
...
Frank,
I did as you suggested but it does the same thing. Starts the download
of 15,764 emails then stops at some point, then starts again at 1 of
15,764 meaning doubles then triples etc. Any other ideas? How can I
get to the server and have them delete the messages?

JCW
"JCW" wrote in message
...
And what would that website be. I am using SBC?Yahoo.
JCW


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM"



wrote in message
...
"JCW" wrote in message
...
Bruce,
After a couple of attempts my messages that are on the server keep
stopping and starting over. There are over 16,000 messages dating
back to Oct 2005. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks


Create a new Identity in OE and download the account there.
Or else go to the account's Web mail site and delete them there.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com