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September 13th 06, 08:31 PM
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Message rule doesn't work
Hello,
I get approximately 6.23 x 10^23 spams every day with the word "PHARMACY" in the body text, so being a smart guy, I created a message rule to kick those messages into the Delete folder. Problem is, it hasn't been working. To make matters more mysterious, when I send MYSELF a test message with the word "pharmacy" in the body text, it winds up in the delete folder as it should. Anybody know what gives? Thanks, Roy 
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September 13th 06, 08:39 PM
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Message rule doesn't work
If the word is in an HTML section of the message, the rule won't see it.
That is the spams that look like a small poster rather than just ordinary text. Some Message Rule Ideas: http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm Some tips: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm Message Rules not working?: http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "C. Roy Blye" wrote in message . .. Hello, I get approximately 6.23 x 10^23 spams every day with the word "PHARMACY" in the body text, so being a smart guy, I created a message rule to kick those messages into the Delete folder. Problem is, it hasn't been working. To make matters more mysterious, when I send MYSELF a test message with the word "pharmacy" in the body text, it winds up in the delete folder as it should. Anybody know what gives? Thanks, Roy
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September 13th 06, 09:09 PM
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Message rule doesn't work
Thanks Bruce - Looks like I need to do a little "homework." I will say,
though, that the offending messages look exactly like ordinary text to me. Is there another way to tell if the word is in an HTML section? Roy "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... If the word is in an HTML section of the message, the rule won't see it. That is the spams that look like a small poster rather than just ordinary text. Some Message Rule Ideas: http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm Some tips: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm Message Rules not working?: http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "C. Roy Blye" wrote in message . .. Hello, I get approximately 6.23 x 10^23 spams every day with the word "PHARMACY" in the body text, so being a smart guy, I created a message rule to kick those messages into the Delete folder. Problem is, it hasn't been working. To make matters more mysterious, when I send MYSELF a test message with the word "pharmacy" in the body text, it winds up in the delete folder as it should. Anybody know what gives? Thanks, Roy
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September 13th 06, 09:23 PM
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Message rule doesn't work
Ctrl+F3 will show you the message source. You'll have to search a bit. This
is from a message I had that was Mult-part containing HTML and regular text. Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HTML xmlns:eXclaimer=3D"http://www.exclaimer.co.uk" = xmlns:msxsl=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:xslt" = xmlns:exc=3D"http://www.exclaimer.co.uk/rtf" HEAD META http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3DUTF-16" You should see a similar view. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "C. Roy Blye" wrote in message . .. Thanks Bruce - Looks like I need to do a little "homework." I will say, though, that the offending messages look exactly like ordinary text to me. Is there another way to tell if the word is in an HTML section? Roy "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... If the word is in an HTML section of the message, the rule won't see it. That is the spams that look like a small poster rather than just ordinary text. Some Message Rule Ideas: http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm Some tips: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm Message Rules not working?: http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "C. Roy Blye" wrote in message . .. Hello, I get approximately 6.23 x 10^23 spams every day with the word "PHARMACY" in the body text, so being a smart guy, I created a message rule to kick those messages into the Delete folder. Problem is, it hasn't been working. To make matters more mysterious, when I send MYSELF a test message with the word "pharmacy" in the body text, it winds up in the delete folder as it should. Anybody know what gives? Thanks, Roy
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September 14th 06, 12:42 AM
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Message rule doesn't work
Bruce,
Here's a cut & paste of an actual spam message containing the word "PHARMACY". Note the nonsense letters on the right. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi QUIT O l VERPA o YIN j G FOR YO o UR PH e ARM z AC h Y S x AV n E up z to 5 i 0 % wi p th http://www.stoaswiu.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now here's what came up on the message source. It appears the letters on the right were actually interspersed with the original message to mung it up, and then disassociated from the message to yield a "clean" copy by using some clever style sheet antics. If you've seen this tactic before, I apologize for repeating it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6D730.22D62760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi =20 QUIT O l VERPA o YIN j G FOR YO o UR PH e ARM z AC h Y =20 S x AV n E up z to 5 i 0 % wi p th http://www.stoaswiu.com ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6D730.22D62760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii" META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff DIVHi/DIV DIV /DIV DIVQUIT Ospan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " l = /spanVERPAspan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " o = /spanYINspan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " j /spanG = FOR YOspan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " o /spanUR = PHspan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " e /spanARMspan = STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " z /spanACspan STYLE = =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " h /spanY/DIV DIV /DIV DIVSspan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " x = /spanAVspan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " n /spanE = up span STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " z /spanto 5span = STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " i /span0 % wispan STYLE = =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " p /spanth A = href=3D"http://www.stoaswiu.com"http://www.stoaswiu.com/A/DIV/BODY= /HTML ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6D730.22D62760-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Interesting. Diabolical. F***ing B*st*rds! Roy "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... Ctrl+F3 will show you the message source. You'll have to search a bit. This is from a message I had that was Mult-part containing HTML and regular text. Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HTML xmlns:eXclaimer=3D"http://www.exclaimer.co.uk" = xmlns:msxsl=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:xslt" = xmlns:exc=3D"http://www.exclaimer.co.uk/rtf" HEAD META http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3DUTF-16" You should see a similar view. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "C. Roy Blye" wrote in message . .. Thanks Bruce - Looks like I need to do a little "homework." I will say, though, that the offending messages look exactly like ordinary text to me. Is there another way to tell if the word is in an HTML section? Roy "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... If the word is in an HTML section of the message, the rule won't see it. That is the spams that look like a small poster rather than just ordinary text. Some Message Rule Ideas: http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm Some tips: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm Message Rules not working?: http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "C. Roy Blye" wrote in message . .. Hello, I get approximately 6.23 x 10^23 spams every day with the word "PHARMACY" in the body text, so being a smart guy, I created a message rule to kick those messages into the Delete folder. Problem is, it hasn't been working. To make matters more mysterious, when I send MYSELF a test message with the word "pharmacy" in the body text, it winds up in the delete folder as it should. Anybody know what gives? Thanks, Roy
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September 14th 06, 01:01 AM
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Message rule doesn't work
Bruce,
It seems my cut & paste of the message somehow got "re-munged" on its way to the message board! So here's a re-typing of the original message so you can see what it looked like when I received it: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, QUIT OVERPAYING FOR YOUR PHARMACY hzeojol SAVE up to 50% with http://www.stoaswiu.com piznx ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roy "C. Roy Blye" wrote in message . .. Bruce, Here's a cut & paste of an actual spam message containing the word "PHARMACY". Note the nonsense letters on the right. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi QUIT O l VERPA o YIN j G FOR YO o UR PH e ARM z AC h Y S x AV n E up z to 5 i 0 % wi p th http://www.stoaswiu.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now here's what came up on the message source. It appears the letters on the right were actually interspersed with the original message to mung it up, and then disassociated from the message to yield a "clean" copy by using some clever style sheet antics. If you've seen this tactic before, I apologize for repeating it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6D730.22D62760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi =20 QUIT O l VERPA o YIN j G FOR YO o UR PH e ARM z AC h Y =20 S x AV n E up z to 5 i 0 % wi p th http://www.stoaswiu.com ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6D730.22D62760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii" META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff DIVHi/DIV DIV /DIV DIVQUIT Ospan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " l = /spanVERPAspan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " o = /spanYINspan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " j /spanG = FOR YOspan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " o /spanUR = PHspan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " e /spanARMspan = STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " z /spanACspan STYLE = =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " h /spanY/DIV DIV /DIV DIVSspan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " x = /spanAVspan STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " n /spanE = up span STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " z /spanto 5span = STYLE =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " i /span0 % wispan STYLE = =3D"border: 0px; float : right ; " p /spanth A = href=3D"http://www.stoaswiu.com"http://www.stoaswiu.com/A/DIV/BODY= /HTML ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6D730.22D62760-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Interesting. Diabolical. F***ing B*st*rds! Roy "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... Ctrl+F3 will show you the message source. You'll have to search a bit. This is from a message I had that was Mult-part containing HTML and regular text. Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HTML xmlns:eXclaimer=3D"http://www.exclaimer.co.uk" = xmlns:msxsl=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:xslt" = xmlns:exc=3D"http://www.exclaimer.co.uk/rtf" HEAD META http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3DUTF-16" You should see a similar view. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "C. Roy Blye" wrote in message . .. Thanks Bruce - Looks like I need to do a little "homework." I will say, though, that the offending messages look exactly like ordinary text to me. Is there another way to tell if the word is in an HTML section? Roy "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... If the word is in an HTML section of the message, the rule won't see it. That is the spams that look like a small poster rather than just ordinary text. Some Message Rule Ideas: http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm Some tips: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm Message Rules not working?: http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~ "C. Roy Blye" wrote in message . .. Hello, I get approximately 6.23 x 10^23 spams every day with the word "PHARMACY" in the body text, so being a smart guy, I created a message rule to kick those messages into the Delete folder. Problem is, it hasn't been working. To make matters more mysterious, when I send MYSELF a test message with the word "pharmacy" in the body text, it winds up in the delete folder as it should. Anybody know what gives? Thanks, Roy
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September 14th 06, 01:29 AM
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Message rule doesn't work
"C. Roy Blye" wrote in message . .. Hello, I get approximately 6.23 x 10^23 spams every day with the word "PHARMACY" in the body text, so being a smart guy, I created a message rule to kick those messages into the Delete folder. Problem is, it hasn't been working. To make matters more mysterious, when I send MYSELF a test message with the word "pharmacy" in the body text, it winds up in the delete folder as it should. Anybody know what gives? Thanks, Roy Hi Roy These .gif type spams are like a picture and so message rules cannot read any text in them. Most come with a coloured background and coloured lettering. See if your ISP can stop these for you in your Mail Box. ISPs are slowly starting to offer spam blocking, but not all can block these ..gif type. If they do you may need to go into the Mail Box every 7 days or so and check that there are no genuine emails caught in there. Most ISPs that provide this service, auto-delete on a 7 day cycle. There is a very long winded message rule that I have read does stop them - what you do is set the message rule to block anything that does NOT contain a letter of the alphabet i.e. 26 rules. ;-( Rgds Antioch
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September 14th 06, 09:53 AM
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 00:29:13 +0100, antioch wrote:
These .gif type spams are like a picture and so message rules cannot read any text in them. Except that his example is a message with HTML content, not a .gif image. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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September 14th 06, 04:28 PM
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Hi Antioch,
Scroll back through my dialog with Bruce Hagen, and you will see that in this case it is an HTML spam, not a .gif spam. What is interesting is that the spammer apparently used a technique in which the text portion of the multi-part message is munged (thus camouflaging the text and avoiding detection by my message rule), and then "un-munged" using some fancy style applications in the HTML portion. So, for example, what looks like the word "PHARMACY" to the reader of the spam message, looks something like "PnHfARdMvACwY" to the message rule detector program. Dirty tricks! And they think I'm gonna actually BUY something from them?? Roy "antioch" wrote in message ... "C. Roy Blye" wrote in message . .. Hello, I get approximately 6.23 x 10^23 spams every day with the word "PHARMACY" in the body text, so being a smart guy, I created a message rule to kick those messages into the Delete folder. Problem is, it hasn't been working. To make matters more mysterious, when I send MYSELF a test message with the word "pharmacy" in the body text, it winds up in the delete folder as it should. Anybody know what gives? Thanks, Roy Hi Roy These .gif type spams are like a picture and so message rules cannot read any text in them. Most come with a coloured background and coloured lettering. See if your ISP can stop these for you in your Mail Box. ISPs are slowly starting to offer spam blocking, but not all can block these .gif type. If they do you may need to go into the Mail Box every 7 days or so and check that there are no genuine emails caught in there. Most ISPs that provide this service, auto-delete on a 7 day cycle. There is a very long winded message rule that I have read does stop them - what you do is set the message rule to block anything that does NOT contain a letter of the alphabet i.e. 26 rules. ;-( Rgds Antioch
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September 14th 06, 08:57 PM
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Message rule doesn't work
Sorry - yes -jumped to a conclusion - but I have not, as yet, had the type I
think you are describing - all my pharmacy have been in 'gif style - coloured text on coloured background. The same with the 'stock' ones. What will those 'barstewards' think of next in their spams. Antioch "C. Roy Blye" wrote in message ... Hi Antioch, Scroll back through my dialog with Bruce Hagen, and you will see that in this case it is an HTML spam, not a .gif spam. What is interesting is that the spammer apparently used a technique in which the text portion of the multi-part message is munged (thus camouflaging the text and avoiding detection by my message rule), and then "un-munged" using some fancy style applications in the HTML portion. So, for example, what looks like the word "PHARMACY" to the reader of the spam message, looks something like "PnHfARdMvACwY" to the message rule detector program. Dirty tricks! And they think I'm gonna actually BUY something from them?? Roy "antioch" wrote in message ... "C. Roy Blye" wrote in message . .. Hello, I get approximately 6.23 x 10^23 spams every day with the word "PHARMACY" in the body text, so being a smart guy, I created a message rule to kick those messages into the Delete folder. Problem is, it hasn't been working. To make matters more mysterious, when I send MYSELF a test message with the word "pharmacy" in the body text, it winds up in the delete folder as it should. Anybody know what gives? Thanks, Roy Hi Roy These .gif type spams are like a picture and so message rules cannot read any text in them. Most come with a coloured background and coloured lettering. See if your ISP can stop these for you in your Mail Box. ISPs are slowly starting to offer spam blocking, but not all can block these .gif type. If they do you may need to go into the Mail Box every 7 days or so and check that there are no genuine emails caught in there. Most ISPs that provide this service, auto-delete on a 7 day cycle. There is a very long winded message rule that I have read does stop them - what you do is set the message rule to block anything that does NOT contain a letter of the alphabet i.e. 26 rules. ;-( Rgds Antioch
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