Hello all,
Ran into a very weird problem with newsgroup posts. I am a frequent responder,
and an occaisional poster myself.

Setup:
I created a New newsgroup post, but was unable to finish the post at that time.
So, I did a Save of the post, and it was placed in my Drafts folder automatically.
Later I returned to complete the post, and then Sent it.

Problem:
The post (for me) never showed up on the newsgroup. All others in the newsgroup
could see my post, but I couldn't. Some folks responded, but I could not see any of their
responses.

It's as though I had manually Deleted my own post. (I'm sure I didn't... I never even
saw it to delete it)

Also.. I couldn't see it via OE, but I could see it through Google Groups.

Is there an issue with "saving" a partial "newsgroup" post in Drafts, and then Sending
that completed post at a later time?

Thanks,
Al Camp

Make sure your View settings for the particular news group are set to
View/Current View/Show All Messages and that no other items are checked.
See if that fixes it.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.




"Al Campagna" wrote in message
...
Hello all,
Ran into a very weird problem with newsgroup posts. I am a frequent
responder,
and an occaisional poster myself.

Setup:
I created a New newsgroup post, but was unable to finish the post at
that time.
So, I did a Save of the post, and it was placed in my Drafts folder
automatically.
Later I returned to complete the post, and then Sent it.

Problem:
The post (for me) never showed up on the newsgroup. All others in the
newsgroup
could see my post, but I couldn't. Some folks responded, but I could not
see any of their responses.

It's as though I had manually Deleted my own post. (I'm sure I
didn't... I never even saw it to delete it)

Also.. I couldn't see it via OE, but I could see it through Google
Groups.

Is there an issue with "saving" a partial "newsgroup" post in Drafts,
and then Sending that completed post at a later time?

Thanks,
Al Camp

Hi Jim,
I think we "typed" together before on another OE problem I had quite some months ago.

View = All Messages (and has always been set that way)
Synchronization = All Messages (and has always been set that way)

Jim, this is really a bizarre... and rare... event. I help folks on the MSAccess
newsgroups, and post about 1000 responses a year.
I often "Save" a draft, then return later to finsh and post.

If nothing "obviously" comes to your mind as to what might have happened, I don't want
to press the issue because it's very infrequent.

The only thing I can hang my hat on is that the bug "acts" as though I had seen my post
on the NG, and then deleted it.
(I know I didn't...)
I did use another "Identity" in OE, and did see my post, just like everyone else could.

** Is there any way I can retrive a deleted post on my regular Identity?

Thanks for your help and your quick reply,
Al Campagna
Candia Computer Consulting - Candia NH
http://home.comcast.net/~cccsolutions




"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Make sure your View settings for the particular news group are set to View/Current
View/Show All Messages and that no other items are checked. See if that fixes it.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.




"Al Campagna" wrote in message
...
Hello all,
Ran into a very weird problem with newsgroup posts. I am a frequent responder,
and an occaisional poster myself.

Setup:
I created a New newsgroup post, but was unable to finish the post at that time.
So, I did a Save of the post, and it was placed in my Drafts folder automatically.
Later I returned to complete the post, and then Sent it.

Problem:
The post (for me) never showed up on the newsgroup. All others in the newsgroup
could see my post, but I couldn't. Some folks responded, but I could not see any of
their responses.

It's as though I had manually Deleted my own post. (I'm sure I didn't... I never
even saw it to delete it)

Also.. I couldn't see it via OE, but I could see it through Google Groups.

Is there an issue with "saving" a partial "newsgroup" post in Drafts, and then
Sending that completed post at a later time?

Thanks,
Al Camp

"Al Campagna" wrote in message
...
Hi Jim,
** Is there any way I can retrive a deleted post on my regular Identity?

Thanks for your help and your quick reply,
Al Campagna

Hi Al:

The only way to do that would be to right click on the newsgroup having the
problem and under Properties, select Reset and then redownload all the
messages involved. If you have the View set to Show All and are not
"hiding" read messages, it should appear. Any chance you could have clicked
on "Catch Up" at some time after posting and before reading the message?
Or, are you reading the newsgroup on Comcast's news provider vs. using the
msnews.microsoft.com server? Not all servers hosting the groups maintain
older messages for the same period of time as Microsoft does.

I would assume the post appears correctly in your Sent Items folder?
--
Jim Pickering

Jim,
Well, I really thought that Reset might just do it... Thanks for that tip.
I Reset, saw the posts disappear, and then reloaded the last 1000 headers, but still
only see my second post and replies.
Not the original... that is still missing. Maybe a "server" type problem?

So I did a bit of expirementing. I deleted someone else's recent NG post from the
group, Reset the group, and re-downloaded.
That deleted post returned! Hmmm... had I "inadvertently" deleted the missing post in
the first place to cause this problem... as you say...it should have come back on Reset.

"Cue the theramin music!" :-D

I never use Comcast mail. I always use OE for all my mail and newgroup work.

To the best of my knowledge, I didn't use the Catch Up option. I've never been really
sure what that does, so I don't ever use it.
I just keep all my NGs on "Synch All Messages", and Options for "1000 at a time."

But, I will be more aware of that CatchUp possibility, in case this might occur again.

Thanks a lot Jim. As I say it's not a critical issue, so we can let it go for now.
I'll be glad to try anything you might want to try, but I don't want to tie you up any
more on a very rare and un-reproducable bug.

Thanks a lot, and take care Jim
Al Campagna
Candia Computer Consulting - Candia NH
http://home.comcast.net/~cccsolutions

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
"Al Campagna" wrote in message
...
Hi Jim,
** Is there any way I can retrive a deleted post on my regular Identity?

Thanks for your help and your quick reply,
Al Campagna

Hi Al:

The only way to do that would be to right click on the newsgroup having the problem and
under Properties, select Reset and then redownload all the messages involved. If you
have the View set to Show All and are not "hiding" read messages, it should appear. Any
chance you could have clicked on "Catch Up" at some time after posting and before
reading the message? Or, are you reading the newsgroup on Comcast's news provider vs.
using the msnews.microsoft.com server? Not all servers hosting the groups maintain
older messages for the same period of time as Microsoft does.

I would assume the post appears correctly in your Sent Items folder?
--
Jim Pickering

"Al Campagna" wrote in message
...

"Cue the theramin music!" :-D


Strange, but then Outlook Express often works in "mysterious" ways. Ask any
of the thousands of user who've lost stored messages just by shutting down
while a compacting operation is taking place. Wish I had some better ideas
and really don't understand why the message would not "re-appear" on a
reset. If you want to try something, open another computer to the newsgroup
and see if you can find the "message-id" of the problem message and forward
it here along with the name of the newsgroup to which it was posted and I'll
see if it can be retrieved.

Just highlight the message, click Ctrl+F3 and copy/paste the following 2
lines from the header (which will have different info):

Message-ID:
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
--
Jim Pickering

Jim,
I'm now in OE as a different Identity, so I can see the missing post,
just like everyone else. So it can't be a server type problem...

It's in
microsoft.public.access.formscoding
on 10/4/06 @ 10:50 am
Lost Post:
Message-ID:
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.access.formscoding

Thanks Jim,
Al Campagna

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
"Al Campagna" wrote in message
...

"Cue the theramin music!" :-D


Strange, but then Outlook Express often works in "mysterious" ways. Ask
any of the thousands of user who've lost stored messages just by shutting
down while a compacting operation is taking place. Wish I had some better
ideas and really don't understand why the message would not "re-appear" on
a reset. If you want to try something, open another computer to the
newsgroup and see if you can find the "message-id" of the problem message
and forward it here along with the name of the newsgroup to which it was
posted and I'll see if it can be retrieved.

Just highlight the message, click Ctrl+F3 and copy/paste the following 2
lines from the header (which will have different info):

Message-ID:
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
--
Jim Pickering

Got it. Must be this one:
======================================

I'm parsing down through many records using DAO loop , examining values
as I go.
If a certain condition is met, I need to Update one or more records that
were previously
accessed via the loop, and set those values to 0.
Thought I could insert an Update query to accomplish that, and then
continue on to the
next DAO record.

PreviousLocationScore = DSum("[RawScore]", "qryDefectsGraphedScoring",
"GraphedID " & rst("GraphedID") & " And DefectLocation = " &
rst("DefectLocation"))
' *** PreviousLocationScore returns correct result
If rst("DefectLength") = 1000 Then
rst.Edit
rst("FinalScore") = rst("RawScore")
rst("ScoreCode") = " D/LS " & rst("DefectLocation") & " = " &
LastLocation
rst.Update
' *** Update those previous records (RollNo text, Location Integer,
GraphedID long)
DoCmd.RunSQL "UPDATE tblDefectsGraphed SET
tblDefectsGraphed.FinalScore = 0 " & _
"WHERE (((tblDefectsGraphed.RollNo) = rst('RollNo') AND
((tblDefectsGraphed.DefectLocation) = rst('DefectLocation') AND
((tblDefectsGraphed.GraphedID) rst('[GraphedID]')));"
GoTo DoneScoring
End If

The RunSQL code does not work. No Errors, no Update warning mesage.
Perhaps the DAO needs to be closed and re-opened?
Perhaps the query can not "see" the rst values?
Could I accomplish the Update using DAO?

Any help appreciated... couldn't figure out what to search the Access
groups with
to find an answer.

Thanks,
Al Campagna
---------------------------------------------------------------

And if the different identity works correctly, then you might be having a
problem with some registry corruption in the older identity. You can import
your old mail messages from that identity, but newsgroup messages,
unfortunately, will not import. Your choice.

And hope you got an answer, but my exposure to SQL only persuaded me to go
back to something I know something about and that works, however unreliably.
VBG SQL is as frustrating as working with DBX files.

--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express





"AC" wrote in message
...
Jim,
I'm now in OE as a different Identity, so I can see the missing post,
just like everyone else. So it can't be a server type problem...

It's in
microsoft.public.access.formscoding
on 10/4/06 @ 10:50 am
Lost Post:
Message-ID:
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.access.formscoding

Thanks Jim,
Al Campagna

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
"Al Campagna" wrote in message
...

"Cue the theramin music!" :-D


Strange, but then Outlook Express often works in "mysterious" ways. Ask
any of the thousands of user who've lost stored messages just by shutting
down while a compacting operation is taking place. Wish I had some
better ideas and really don't understand why the message would not
"re-appear" on a reset. If you want to try something, open another
computer to the newsgroup and see if you can find the "message-id" of the
problem message and forward it here along with the name of the newsgroup
to which it was posted and I'll see if it can be retrieved.

Just highlight the message, click Ctrl+F3 and copy/paste the following 2
lines from the header (which will have different info):

Message-ID:
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
--
Jim Pickering

"AC" wrote in message
...
Jim,
I'm now in OE as a different Identity, so I can see the missing post,
just like everyone else. So it can't be a server type problem...

It's in
microsoft.public.access.formscoding
on 10/4/06 @ 10:50 am
Lost Post:
Message-ID:
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.access.formscoding

Thanks Jim,
Al Campagna

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
"Al Campagna" wrote in message
...

"Cue the theramin music!" :-D


Strange, but then Outlook Express often works in "mysterious" ways. Ask
any of the thousands of user who've lost stored messages just by shutting
down while a compacting operation is taking place. Wish I had some
better ideas and really don't understand why the message would not
"re-appear" on a reset. If you want to try something, open another
computer to the newsgroup and see if you can find the "message-id" of the
problem message and forward it here along with the name of the newsgroup
to which it was posted and I'll see if it can be retrieved.

Just highlight the message, click Ctrl+F3 and copy/paste the following 2
lines from the header (which will have different info):

Message-ID:
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
--
Jim Pickering



The problem is probably (Download ### headers at a time" which is sometimes
rather flaky. Uncheck that option.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
"AC" wrote in message
...
Jim,
I'm now in OE as a different Identity, so I can see the missing post, just like
everyone else. So it can't be a server type problem...

It's in
microsoft.public.access.formscoding
on 10/4/06 @ 10:50 am
Lost Post:
Message-ID:
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.access.formscoding

Thanks Jim,
Al Campagna

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
"Al Campagna" wrote in message
...

"Cue the theramin music!" :-D


Strange, but then Outlook Express often works in "mysterious" ways. Ask any of the
thousands of user who've lost stored messages just by shutting down while a compacting
operation is taking place. Wish I had some better ideas and really don't understand
why the message would not "re-appear" on a reset. If you want to try something, open
another computer to the newsgroup and see if you can find the "message-id" of the
problem message and forward it here along with the name of the newsgroup to which it
was posted and I'll see if it can be retrieved.

Just highlight the message, click Ctrl+F3 and copy/paste the following 2 lines from
the header (which will have different info):

Message-ID:
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
--
Jim Pickering



The problem is probably (Download ### headers at a time" which is sometimes rather
flaky. Uncheck that option.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

Frank,
I unchecked the "1000 at a time" option, reset the NG, and downloaded all 6000 or so
headers.
Still can't see the post, so... as Jim seems to feel, it's some kind of
"registry/voodoo/alien abduction" kind of thing.
Thanks for your help,
Al Campagna
Candia Computer Consulting - Candia NH
http://home.comcast.net/~cccsolutions