Rather than hijack a thread, I figured I'd make a new one. The quote comes
from sent message diasppeared on 10/13/06 sent 09:49.

Bruce Hagen wrote:

I'm not disagreeing with ANYthing because I'm sure the information is
accurate but I am asking a question for clarification:
....
Keep
user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
feasible.
....

Is it really 100 MB? Reason I ask is because I've downloaded attachments in
excess of 100M fairly often and without problems. They were ckt card
artworks, from Japan, for those who want to know. They never lived long in
the "Japan | Artwork" folder as they'd usually be saved to disk the same day
or next day latest, and there were never any problems. I never deleted the
mails with attachments though, until I was sure the artworks had made it to
archive, so it might have stretched to a few days over a weekend, say, plus
a day or two.
OTOH, the ones I Sent would sit in the Sent folder for a long time too.
So I had multiple OE 6 folders (XP & win2k) that routinely went beyond the
100 Meg, without any losses or corruption I ever noticed.
I'm retired now so there's no way I can test my claims using the same
setups (at work), so I figured it couldn't hurt to ask instead. Hell, with
this VZ connection, I can't even send out a 10 Meg file let alone 100 Meg.

I'm assuming there has to be a quantity of email entries or something else
related to this 100Meg, right?

There's nothing important or earth shaing in my question that I need the
answer for; it's mostly a curiousity and a bit of research, if you will. I
DO know that you can indeed corrupt the folders with quantities of emails
over time, but the size limit I can't seem to verify.
Somehow I think age has something to do with it too, but I've never been
able to prove it or find any credible evidence of that. Yes, I have a "test
bed" on a laptop that I play with.

Regards,

Pop`

Hi Pop:

OE folders technically have a 2GB limit. But you have been around this
newsgroup long enough to see that people have problems, especially losing
messages, long before 2GB is reached.

100 MB is basically a random number that most of us agree on to be on the
safe side. Will you have problems if it goes up to 200 MB? Probably not, but
better safe than sorry is how we feel.

The most important thing is to move messages out of the default folders as
soon as you can. The default folders are more vulnerable to corruption
because they are accessed the most. Saving those pix to folders outside of
OE is definitely the right thing to do.

Compacting your folders often is important as well. The folder size is not
reduced until you do even though you deleted messages.

Since you are using XP/SP2, I highly recommend you download this patch. It
will be part of a cumulative update in the future, but you can get it now.
It hasn't been released yet because they are still working on other language
versions.

Among other things, as you will see, it creates a temporary backup of your
dbx files when you compact. Should anything go wrong, the saved message can
easily be replaced without having to purchase a recovery tool.

Patch KB918766:
http://tinyurl.com/mx3r2

This patch addresses some of the issues that were caused by KB911567.

Address Book problems.
Unsent templates appearing as sent.
Manually compacting will now reset the registry counter to Zero in WinXP/SP2
and also sends a copy of your dbx files to the recycle bin as a temporary
backup.

To complete the fix for .eml templates, a registry change is needed. See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918766

Tom Koch also has this information at his site, along with a downloadable
Zip file to do the registry change for you. See:
http://www.insideoe.com/#kb918651
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Pop`" wrote in message
...
Rather than hijack a thread, I figured I'd make a new one. The quote
comes from sent message diasppeared on 10/13/06 sent 09:49.

Bruce Hagen wrote:

I'm not disagreeing with ANYthing because I'm sure the information is
accurate but I am asking a question for clarification:
...
Keep
user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
feasible.
...

Is it really 100 MB? Reason I ask is because I've downloaded attachments
in excess of 100M fairly often and without problems. They were ckt card
artworks, from Japan, for those who want to know. They never lived long
in the "Japan | Artwork" folder as they'd usually be saved to disk the
same day or next day latest, and there were never any problems. I never
deleted the mails with attachments though, until I was sure the artworks
had made it to archive, so it might have stretched to a few days over a
weekend, say, plus a day or two.
OTOH, the ones I Sent would sit in the Sent folder for a long time too.
So I had multiple OE 6 folders (XP & win2k) that routinely went beyond the
100 Meg, without any losses or corruption I ever noticed.
I'm retired now so there's no way I can test my claims using the same
setups (at work), so I figured it couldn't hurt to ask instead. Hell,
with this VZ connection, I can't even send out a 10 Meg file let alone 100
Meg.

I'm assuming there has to be a quantity of email entries or something else
related to this 100Meg, right?

There's nothing important or earth shaing in my question that I need the
answer for; it's mostly a curiousity and a bit of research, if you will.
I DO know that you can indeed corrupt the folders with quantities of
emails over time, but the size limit I can't seem to verify.
Somehow I think age has something to do with it too, but I've never been
able to prove it or find any credible evidence of that. Yes, I have a
"test bed" on a laptop that I play with.

Regards,

Pop`

Thank you Bruce; that's a very clear and concise response and much
appreciated. I don't think I've heard of that patch too but never had a KB
article to go with it, so that's great too.
Just in case you've repeated yourself hereg I thought I'd mention that
I'm a concussion victim as of about 5 years ago and I'm just now getting
back to the point where I'm not considered "learning disabled" by the docs;
so sometimes I see things I don't immediately realize are important to me
and then when I Search of course, I can't find them again. I know everything
I knew before the accident, but anything since then's been "interesting"
shall I say?
You've done a great job of making what might have been a "huh" in
passing into something I know is useful.

Thanks & Regards,

Pop`


Bruce Hagen wrote:
Hi Pop:

OE folders technically have a 2GB limit. But you have been around this
newsgroup long enough to see that people have problems, especially
losing messages, long before 2GB is reached.

100 MB is basically a random number that most of us agree on to be on
the safe side. Will you have problems if it goes up to 200 MB?
Probably not, but better safe than sorry is how we feel.

The most important thing is to move messages out of the default
folders as soon as you can. The default folders are more vulnerable
to corruption because they are accessed the most. Saving those pix to
folders outside of OE is definitely the right thing to do.

Compacting your folders often is important as well. The folder size
is not reduced until you do even though you deleted messages.

Since you are using XP/SP2, I highly recommend you download this
patch. It will be part of a cumulative update in the future, but you
can get it now. It hasn't been released yet because they are still
working on other language versions.

Among other things, as you will see, it creates a temporary backup of
your dbx files when you compact. Should anything go wrong, the saved
message can easily be replaced without having to purchase a recovery
tool.
Patch KB918766:
http://tinyurl.com/mx3r2

This patch addresses some of the issues that were caused by KB911567.

Address Book problems.
Unsent templates appearing as sent.
Manually compacting will now reset the registry counter to Zero in
WinXP/SP2 and also sends a copy of your dbx files to the recycle bin
as a temporary backup.

To complete the fix for .eml templates, a registry change is needed.
See: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918766

Tom Koch also has this information at his site, along with a
downloadable Zip file to do the registry change for you. See:
http://www.insideoe.com/#kb918651

"Pop`" wrote in message
...
Rather than hijack a thread, I figured I'd make a new one. The quote
comes from sent message diasppeared on 10/13/06 sent 09:49.

Bruce Hagen wrote:

I'm not disagreeing with ANYthing because I'm sure the information is
accurate but I am asking a question for clarification:
...
Keep
user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
feasible.
...

Is it really 100 MB? Reason I ask is because I've downloaded
attachments in excess of 100M fairly often and without problems. They
were ckt card artworks, from Japan, for those who want to know.
They never lived long in the "Japan | Artwork" folder as they'd
usually be saved to disk the same day or next day latest, and there
were never any problems. I never deleted the mails with attachments
though, until I was sure the artworks had made it to archive, so it
might have stretched to a few days over a weekend, say, plus a day
or two. OTOH, the ones I Sent would sit in the Sent folder for a
long time too. So I had multiple OE 6 folders (XP & win2k) that
routinely went beyond the 100 Meg, without any losses or corruption
I ever noticed. I'm retired now so there's no way I can test my
claims using the same setups (at work), so I figured it couldn't
hurt to ask instead. Hell, with this VZ connection, I can't even
send out a 10 Meg file let alone 100 Meg.

I'm assuming there has to be a quantity of email entries or
something else related to this 100Meg, right?

There's nothing important or earth shaing in my question that I need
the answer for; it's mostly a curiousity and a bit of research, if
you will. I DO know that you can indeed corrupt the folders with
quantities of emails over time, but the size limit I can't seem to
verify. Somehow I think age has something to do with it too, but
I've never been able to prove it or find any credible evidence of
that. Yes, I have a "test bed" on a laptop that I play with.

Regards,

Pop`

You're welcome. A slow healing process for you. Hope it continues.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Pop`" wrote in message
...
Thank you Bruce; that's a very clear and concise response and much
appreciated. I don't think I've heard of that patch too but never had a
KB article to go with it, so that's great too.
Just in case you've repeated yourself hereg I thought I'd mention that
I'm a concussion victim as of about 5 years ago and I'm just now getting
back to the point where I'm not considered "learning disabled" by the
docs; so sometimes I see things I don't immediately realize are important
to me and then when I Search of course, I can't find them again. I know
everything I knew before the accident, but anything since then's been
"interesting" shall I say?
You've done a great job of making what might have been a "huh" in
passing into something I know is useful.

Thanks & Regards,

Pop`


Bruce Hagen wrote:
Hi Pop:

OE folders technically have a 2GB limit. But you have been around this
newsgroup long enough to see that people have problems, especially
losing messages, long before 2GB is reached.

100 MB is basically a random number that most of us agree on to be on
the safe side. Will you have problems if it goes up to 200 MB?
Probably not, but better safe than sorry is how we feel.

The most important thing is to move messages out of the default
folders as soon as you can. The default folders are more vulnerable
to corruption because they are accessed the most. Saving those pix to
folders outside of OE is definitely the right thing to do.

Compacting your folders often is important as well. The folder size
is not reduced until you do even though you deleted messages.

Since you are using XP/SP2, I highly recommend you download this
patch. It will be part of a cumulative update in the future, but you
can get it now. It hasn't been released yet because they are still
working on other language versions.

Among other things, as you will see, it creates a temporary backup of
your dbx files when you compact. Should anything go wrong, the saved
message can easily be replaced without having to purchase a recovery
tool.
Patch KB918766:
http://tinyurl.com/mx3r2

This patch addresses some of the issues that were caused by KB911567.

Address Book problems.
Unsent templates appearing as sent.
Manually compacting will now reset the registry counter to Zero in
WinXP/SP2 and also sends a copy of your dbx files to the recycle bin
as a temporary backup.

To complete the fix for .eml templates, a registry change is needed.
See: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918766

Tom Koch also has this information at his site, along with a
downloadable Zip file to do the registry change for you. See:
http://www.insideoe.com/#kb918651

"Pop`" wrote in message
...
Rather than hijack a thread, I figured I'd make a new one. The quote
comes from sent message diasppeared on 10/13/06 sent 09:49.

Bruce Hagen wrote:

I'm not disagreeing with ANYthing because I'm sure the information is
accurate but I am asking a question for clarification:
...
Keep
user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
feasible.
...

Is it really 100 MB? Reason I ask is because I've downloaded
attachments in excess of 100M fairly often and without problems. They
were ckt card artworks, from Japan, for those who want to know.
They never lived long in the "Japan | Artwork" folder as they'd
usually be saved to disk the same day or next day latest, and there
were never any problems. I never deleted the mails with attachments
though, until I was sure the artworks had made it to archive, so it
might have stretched to a few days over a weekend, say, plus a day
or two. OTOH, the ones I Sent would sit in the Sent folder for a
long time too. So I had multiple OE 6 folders (XP & win2k) that
routinely went beyond the 100 Meg, without any losses or corruption
I ever noticed. I'm retired now so there's no way I can test my
claims using the same setups (at work), so I figured it couldn't
hurt to ask instead. Hell, with this VZ connection, I can't even
send out a 10 Meg file let alone 100 Meg.

I'm assuming there has to be a quantity of email entries or
something else related to this 100Meg, right?

There's nothing important or earth shaing in my question that I need
the answer for; it's mostly a curiousity and a bit of research, if
you will. I DO know that you can indeed corrupt the folders with
quantities of emails over time, but the size limit I can't seem to
verify. Somehow I think age has something to do with it too, but
I've never been able to prove it or find any credible evidence of
that. Yes, I have a "test bed" on a laptop that I play with.

Regards,

Pop`