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Old January 4th 07, 05:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Oppie
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Default YENC support?

What are the options for dealing with yenc encoding in messages?

I was using yenc32 which worked ok when I was using IE6. With this, if you
quickly do a 'save as' immediately after the message appears, you can
usually get a save before it gets bound up looking for links. (then get not
responding)

Now that I have IE7, it seems to go searching for links immediately and goes
out to lunch.

I have the IE7 with OE6 on an XP Pro machine. Is there a new version of OE
that is to be released?

tia - Oppie


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Old January 4th 07, 08:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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Default YENC support?

"Oppie" wrote

What are the options for dealing with yenc encoding in messages?


You have exactly one option: Get a yEnc-savvy newsreader.

OE is not the best choice for serious downloading of multipart binaries in
any case and I assume WinMail won't be either. I don't expect to see a
yEnc-supporting MS product until a proper yEnc standard is written. In the
meantime, I use Newsrover. Xnews is a passable freebie alternative.

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Old January 4th 07, 09:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Michael Santovec
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Default YENC support?

I'm surprised that you haven't seen the problem before. It's nothing
new to IE7.

There will be no new version of OE. And it's unlikely any Microsoft
program will ever support yEnc.

You can reduce the problem if you turn off the Preview Pane (View,
Layout) to avoid the delays with OE searching for hyperlinks. You can
add a button to the tool bar for this.

However, you'll still run into the problem after OE completes the
combine and presents the completed message. That's because OE doesn't
support yEnc and treats it as simple text. In that case, OE searches
for hyperlinks in the text and for a large message that can take a while
(several minutes). It you are patient, it will eventually finish and
you can proceed with a manual decoder for yEnc.

To avoid the problem, use a yEnc decoder that runs as a proxy server.
That converts the yEnc before OE sees it (typically to Uuencode) and
avoids the hyperlink searching in the combined message. You still need
to turn off the preview pane to avoid the problem for partial messages
before combining.

For some additional information, see the yEnc section of:
Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/decode.htm


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"Oppie" wrote in message
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What are the options for dealing with yenc encoding in messages?

I was using yenc32 which worked ok when I was using IE6. With this, if
you quickly do a 'save as' immediately after the message appears, you
can usually get a save before it gets bound up looking for links.
(then get not responding)

Now that I have IE7, it seems to go searching for links immediately
and goes out to lunch.

I have the IE7 with OE6 on an XP Pro machine. Is there a new version
of OE that is to be released?

tia - Oppie



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Old January 4th 07, 10:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Pappion
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Default YENC support?

What is that "animal," please????

"N. Miller" wrote in message
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On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:02:22 -0500, Oppie wrote:

What are the options for dealing with yenc encoding in messages?


Google on yEnc proxies. That is all you will be able to use with MS
Outlook
Express 6.

I was using yenc32 which worked ok when I was using IE6. With this, if
you
quickly do a 'save as' immediately after the message appears, you can
usually get a save before it gets bound up looking for links. (then get
not
responding)

Now that I have IE7, it seems to go searching for links immediately and
goes
out to lunch.

I have the IE7 with OE6 on an XP Pro machine. Is there a new version of
OE
that is to be released?


No. There will be "Windows Mail" in Windows Vista. There is "Windows Live
Mail Desktop (Beta)" for Windows XP. There is MS Outlook Express for every
other version of Windows.

I didn't see any obvious menu items for yEnc in Windows Live Mail Desktop
(Beta).

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Norman
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~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.



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Old January 5th 07, 08:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Pappion
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Default YENC support?

YENC is new to me. ;-)

"N. Miller" wrote in message
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On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:46:30 -0600, Pappion wrote:

What is that "animal," please????


Uh, which "animal"?

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.



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Old January 6th 07, 01:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Pappion
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Default YENC support?

Merci b'coup... Happy New Year
"N. Miller" wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:30:11 -0600, Pappion wrote:

YENC is new to me. ;-)


It is some kind of binary encoding protocol; experimental so far. Or maybe
just not submitted to some standards committee, or other, at this point.

|
http://www.google.com/search?client=...utf-8&oe=utf-8

Because it is not recognized as an Internet standard, either by
publication
as an RFC, or some other source (e.g., IETF), Microsoft has chosen to
ignore
it when coding their mail and news clients.

Because yEnc _is_ widely used by binary afficiandos, they tend to get a
little perturbed with Micorsoft for ignoring it.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.



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Old January 6th 07, 03:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Pappion
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Default YENC support? Norman Miller

Are your sig lines written by Yuki Kaijura?

"N. Miller" wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:30:11 -0600, Pappion wrote:

YENC is new to me. ;-)


It is some kind of binary encoding protocol; experimental so far. Or maybe
just not submitted to some standards committee, or other, at this point.

|
http://www.google.com/search?client=...utf-8&oe=utf-8

Because it is not recognized as an Internet standard, either by
publication
as an RFC, or some other source (e.g., IETF), Microsoft has chosen to
ignore
it when coding their mail and news clients.

Because yEnc _is_ widely used by binary afficiandos, they tend to get a
little perturbed with Micorsoft for ignoring it.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.



 




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