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Old January 21st 07, 03:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Krzysztof Żelechowski
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Default Avoiding bad headers

My name, as included in From field, includes characters from the extended
character set. This causes problems with posting to newsgroups. The
moderators get the following warning:

X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Non-encoded 8-bit data (char F8 hex) in message
header 'From'

The workaround is to persuade Outlook Express to encode extended characters
as MIME and not as UUEncode, which is the default. The default is wrong,
every newsreader supports MIME now and only MIME allows encoding headers.
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Old January 21st 07, 03:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
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Default Avoiding bad headers

No bad header here. We always suggest using MIME/None when using a
newsreader such as Outlook Express. I don't know how it is affected using
the Web Interface, which is, IMHO, pathetic.

Have you considered using OE as a newsreader?

Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader for MSNews:
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm
And:
http://www.insideoe.com/resources/co...tm#setupmsnews

Your headers:

Thread-Topic: Avoiding bad headers
thread-index: Acc9ACNxoJ3X+jURTMGhEwOhSpKKGA==
X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 217.153.167.3
From: =?Utf-8?B?S3J6eXN6dG9mIMW7ZWxlY2hvd3NraQ==?=

Subject: Avoiding bad headers
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:02:00 -0800
Lines: 10
Message-ID:
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="Utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
Importance: normal
Priority: normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2757
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftibfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.149
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress:328190
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Krzysztof Żelechowski" wrote in message
...
My name, as included in From field, includes characters from the extended
character set. This causes problems with posting to newsgroups. The
moderators get the following warning:

X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Non-encoded 8-bit data (char F8 hex) in message
header 'From'

The workaround is to persuade Outlook Express to encode extended
characters
as MIME and not as UUEncode, which is the default. The default is wrong,
every newsreader supports MIME now and only MIME allows encoding headers.


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Old January 21st 07, 03:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Krzysztof Żelechowski
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Default Avoiding bad headers



"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

No bad header here. We always suggest using MIME/None when using a
newsreader such as Outlook Express. I don't know how it is affected using
the Web Interface, which is, IMHO, pathetic.

Have you considered using OE as a newsreader?


The bad header appears when I post from Outlook Express.

Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader for MSNews:
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm
And:
http://www.insideoe.com/resources/co...tm#setupmsnews


MIME is not mentioned there.

Your headers:


Posted using the Microsoft Web interface, irrelevant.


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Old January 21st 07, 04:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
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Default Avoiding bad headers

What I have posted is for msnews. If you have a problem with other
newsgroups, then I'm not sure of the problem.

Can you post to this newsgroup using OE? MIME/None is not mentioned in the
links. That is why I mentioned it, but that is for posting to MS newsgroups.
Others may work better with a different setting, but I can't imagine why.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Krzysztof Żelechowski" wrote in message
...


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

No bad header here. We always suggest using MIME/None when using a
newsreader such as Outlook Express. I don't know how it is affected using
the Web Interface, which is, IMHO, pathetic.

Have you considered using OE as a newsreader?


The bad header appears when I post from Outlook Express.

Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader for MSNews:
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm
And:
http://www.insideoe.com/resources/co...tm#setupmsnews


MIME is not mentioned there.

Your headers:


Posted using the Microsoft Web interface, irrelevant.



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Old January 21st 07, 04:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Krzysztof Żelechowski
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Default Avoiding bad headers



"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

What I have posted is for msnews. If you have a problem with other
newsgroups, then I'm not sure of the problem.

Can you post to this newsgroup using OE? MIME/None is not mentioned in the
links. That is why I mentioned it, but that is for posting to MS newsgroups.
Others may work better with a different setting, but I can't imagine why.


They do not work better either. That is the point.
Outlook Express should use MIME by default for posting.
It uses UUEncode unless you configure it otherwise.
And then you get your name distorted in all possible ways.
And it is really hard to find out why.
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Old January 21st 07, 04:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
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Default Avoiding bad headers


"Krzysztof Żelechowski" wrote in message
...


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

What I have posted is for msnews. If you have a problem with other
newsgroups, then I'm not sure of the problem.

Can you post to this newsgroup using OE? MIME/None is not mentioned in
the
links. That is why I mentioned it, but that is for posting to MS
newsgroups.
Others may work better with a different setting, but I can't imagine why.


They do not work better either. That is the point.
Outlook Express should use MIME by default for posting.
It uses UUEncode unless you configure it otherwise.
And then you get your name distorted in all possible ways.
And it is really hard to find out why.


Someone else is going to have to take a look at this post. I have always
used MIME/None and never had a problem. As a matter of fact, I have never
seen this question asked before.

Sorry I can't answer your question.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

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Old January 21st 07, 01:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
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Default Avoiding bad headers

"Krzysztof Żelechowski" wrote in message
...


"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

What I have posted is for msnews. If you have a problem with other
newsgroups, then I'm not sure of the problem.

Can you post to this newsgroup using OE? MIME/None is not mentioned in
the
links. That is why I mentioned it, but that is for posting to MS
newsgroups.
Others may work better with a different setting, but I can't imagine why.


They do not work better either. That is the point.
Outlook Express should use MIME by default for posting.
It uses UUEncode unless you configure it otherwise.
And then you get your name distorted in all possible ways.
And it is really hard to find out why.


That will not be corrected in OE. It is corrected in Windows Mail in Vista.
You should be aware that some newsgroups on other servers than
msnews.microsoft.com (which Bruce and I are using) do not accept MIME
encoded messages.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.


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Old January 21st 07, 07:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Frank Slootweg
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Krzysztof ?elechowski wrote:

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

What I have posted is for msnews. If you have a problem with other
newsgroups, then I'm not sure of the problem.

Can you post to this newsgroup using OE? MIME/None is not mentioned
in the links. That is why I mentioned it, but that is for posting to
MS newsgroups. Others may work better with a different setting, but
I can't imagine why.


They do not work better either. That is the point.
Outlook Express should use MIME by default for posting.
It uses UUEncode unless you configure it otherwise.
And then you get your name distorted in all possible ways.
And it is really hard to find out why.


Exactly. That's why I said similar things in my response (of today) in
the thread "OE6 Mail Sending Format Recommendation"
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