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For some months I had to use another computer for my emails. Now I am back to my usual computer and would like to import my .dbx files from my other computer to my main computer BUT without overwriting my existing .dbx files so that I have continuity. Is this possible and how? I DO have rather a complex setup with folders and subfolders for some 20 to 30 persons etc I correspond with where I drag and drop all incoming as well as sent mail so I can go to any folder and have a full history of my correspondence with that person. Somehow I don't think this will be possible but one never knows. Anybody out there with clever ideas? If I export my .dbx files from my other computer and import them to my mainstay computer, the existing .dbx files on my main computer will be overwritten for sure. Why are email files lumped all into .dbx files instead of being saved individually like word documents etc anyway? -- Jackanory |
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You do not export to move the dbx files.
The messages and folders will be added to the existing messages and folders. This is what you should do: On the other computer: In OE, Tools, Options, Maintenance tab, Store Folder button, right click, Select All, right click, copy. Close OE. Start, Run, right click, Paste. OK NOTE: in XP the dbx files may be hidden, in My Computer, Tools, Folder Options, View tab, check Show hidden files. Move the files to a new folder on the new computer. Highlight all of the files and make sure the Read Only attribute is not set. Open OE, File, Import, Messages, OE6, Message store directory, then browse to the new folder. -- Ronald Sommer "Jackanory" wrote in message o.uk... : Problem : For some months I had to use another computer for my emails. Now I am back : to my usual computer and would like to import my .dbx files from my other : computer to my main computer BUT without overwriting my existing .dbx files : so that I have continuity. Is this possible and how? : : I DO have rather a complex setup with folders and subfolders for some 20 to : 30 persons etc I correspond with where I drag and drop all incoming as well : as sent mail so I can go to any folder and have a full history of my : correspondence with that person. : : Somehow I don't think this will be possible but one never knows. Anybody out : there with clever ideas? If I export my .dbx files from my other computer : and import them to my mainstay computer, the existing .dbx files on my main : computer will be overwritten for sure. : : Why are email files lumped all into .dbx files instead of being saved : individually like word documents etc anyway? : : -- : Jackanory : : |
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Use File | Import | Messages in OE and don't try and do it manually.
See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4 and www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx steve "Jackanory" wrote in message o.uk... Problem For some months I had to use another computer for my emails. Now I am back to my usual computer and would like to import my .dbx files from my other computer to my main computer BUT without overwriting my existing .dbx files so that I have continuity. Is this possible and how? I DO have rather a complex setup with folders and subfolders for some 20 to 30 persons etc I correspond with where I drag and drop all incoming as well as sent mail so I can go to any folder and have a full history of my correspondence with that person. Somehow I don't think this will be possible but one never knows. Anybody out there with clever ideas? If I export my .dbx files from my other computer and import them to my mainstay computer, the existing .dbx files on my main computer will be overwritten for sure. Why are email files lumped all into .dbx files instead of being saved individually like word documents etc anyway? -- Jackanory |
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I get the idea. Basically it is a copy and paste job. Thanks for the info
that one cannot export and import the OE .dbx files except into MS Outlook (as opposed to OE) and MS Exchange. I wonder why not? But that is another issue! One point though.... If I already have, say, a "Jack.dbx" file on each computer it is obvious that the pasted "Jack.dbx" file will overwrite the "Jack.dbx" file on my primary computer and I will have lost the correspondence with Jack on my primary computer. Is my assumption that the ..dbx files on my primary computer will be overwritten correct? Y/N ? To overcome this problem I have thought of the following tactic. On the secondary computer I used temporarily while my main computer was out of action, I intend to rename the "Jack" sub folder to "Jack_BT" (BT for Being or Been Transferred) -- Get the idea? This should rename my "Jack.dbx" file to "Jack_BT.dbx" on my secondary computer. OK so far? Y/N ? Once I have copied and pasted the "****_BT.dbx" files from my secondary computer onto my main computer -- as per your instructions -- I will now have twice the number of subfolders to my Inbox -- in other words in addition to a "Jack" subfolder I will also have a "Jack_BT" subfolder as well. Naturally the same will happen with all the other Inbox subfolders. Once this is done, all I have to do on my primary computer is to "Select All" the emails from say my "Jack_BT" subfolder and drag them to the Jack" sub-folder and then delete the now empty Jack_BT subfolder. Naturally I will have to do this with all the other new "****_BT" subfolders now showing in the Inbox. And Bob's your uncle as they say.... There won't be any problems with my main Inbox, Outbox and Sent folders being overwritten as they are completely empty on both computers. Thus those .dbx files being overwritten are not an issue any more. Hope my assumptions are right and also that others can make a note of this procedure which they might find useful at some later date. Reading through your response once again, is the trick you propose to paste the .dbx files to another folder (to be created by me)? In this case how does OE6 go about showing all the messages (both the existing ones and the copied and pasted ones) in one seamless list in any particular folder or subfolder? (seamless being the operative word here! -- in other words I want to be able to see say past two years' correspondence with "Jack" in the Inbox "Jack" sub-folder -- remember I drag my sent messages also to the Jack sub-folder.) -- Jackanory "Ron Sommer" wrote in message ... You do not export to move the dbx files. The messages and folders will be added to the existing messages and folders. This is what you should do: On the other computer: In OE, Tools, Options, Maintenance tab, Store Folder button, right click, Select All, right click, copy. Close OE. Start, Run, right click, Paste. OK NOTE: in XP the dbx files may be hidden, in My Computer, Tools, Folder Options, View tab, check Show hidden files. Move the files to a new folder on the new computer. Highlight all of the files and make sure the Read Only attribute is not set. Open OE, File, Import, Messages, OE6, Message store directory, then browse to the new folder. -- Ronald Sommer "Jackanory" wrote in message o.uk... : Problem : For some months I had to use another computer for my emails. Now I am back : to my usual computer and would like to import my .dbx files from my other : computer to my main computer BUT without overwriting my existing .dbx files : so that I have continuity. Is this possible and how? : : I DO have rather a complex setup with folders and subfolders for some 20 to : 30 persons etc I correspond with where I drag and drop all incoming as well : as sent mail so I can go to any folder and have a full history of my : correspondence with that person. : : Somehow I don't think this will be possible but one never knows. Anybody out : there with clever ideas? If I export my .dbx files from my other computer : and import them to my mainstay computer, the existing .dbx files on my main : computer will be overwritten for sure. : : Why are email files lumped all into .dbx files instead of being saved : individually like word documents etc anyway? : : -- : Jackanory : : |
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Thanks Steve. I will have a careful look at those pages. In the meantime
have a look at what I wrote in response to Ron's reply. Basically I am trying to have the different messages on the two computers (i.e. 2 lots of identically named .dbx files MERGED into ONE .dbx file. And this I will have to do for around 30 persons I correspond with. Remember also that I drag MY sent messages to these sub-folders of the Inbox main folder so that I have a seamless record of my correspondence with these people going over a period extending back beyond 2 years. One of these days I am going to reach the limit of what OE6 can keep track of, I am sure!!!! But my system DOES come in very handy when I need to go back and see what the correspondence said say 6 months or a year ago. I gave up having rules to automatically sort out and distribute my Incoming Mail to the various subfolders around a year ago. I now prefer ALL my correspondence to land in my Inbox from where I drag and drop it to the individual's subfolder together with my reply from the Sent folder once I have replied to it. What is the limit of messages OE6 can cope with, if you know? I remember reading somewhere that there IS a limit to the number of messages OE6 can deal with. Or am I wrong? -- Jackanory "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... Use File | Import | Messages in OE and don't try and do it manually. See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4 and www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx steve "Jackanory" wrote in message o.uk... Problem For some months I had to use another computer for my emails. Now I am back to my usual computer and would like to import my .dbx files from my other computer to my main computer BUT without overwriting my existing .dbx files so that I have continuity. Is this possible and how? I DO have rather a complex setup with folders and subfolders for some 20 to 30 persons etc I correspond with where I drag and drop all incoming as well as sent mail so I can go to any folder and have a full history of my correspondence with that person. Somehow I don't think this will be possible but one never knows. Anybody out there with clever ideas? If I export my .dbx files from my other computer and import them to my mainstay computer, the existing .dbx files on my main computer will be overwritten for sure. Why are email files lumped all into .dbx files instead of being saved individually like word documents etc anyway? -- Jackanory |
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Create a new folder in My Computer or Windows Explorer.
Move the old computer dbx files into the new folder. You do not paste dbx files into an OE folder. You are going to import, so there will not be folders overwritten. "Jackanory" wrote in message .uk... :I get the idea. Basically it is a copy and paste job. Thanks for the info : that one cannot export and import the OE .dbx files except into MS Outlook : (as opposed to OE) and MS Exchange. I wonder why not? But that is another : issue! : :snipped -- : Jackanory : : "Ron Sommer" wrote in message : ... : You do not export to move the dbx files. : The messages and folders will be added to the existing messages and : folders. : : This is what you should do: : : On the other computer: : In OE, Tools, Options, Maintenance tab, Store Folder button, right click, : Select All, right click, copy. : Close OE. : Start, Run, right click, Paste. : OK : NOTE: in XP the dbx files may be hidden, in My Computer, Tools, Folder : Options, View tab, check Show hidden files. : : Move the files to a new folder *created in My Computer or Windows Explorer* on the new computer. : Highlight all of the files and make sure the Read Only attribute is not : set. : Open OE, File, Import, Messages, OE6, Message store directory, then browse : to the new folder. : -- : Ronald Sommer : : : "Jackanory" wrote in message : o.uk... : : Problem : : For some months I had to use another computer for my emails. Now I am : back : : to my usual computer and would like to import my .dbx files from my : other : : computer to my main computer BUT without overwriting my existing .dbx : files : : so that I have continuity. Is this possible and how? : : : : I DO have rather a complex setup with folders and subfolders for some : 20 : to : : 30 persons etc I correspond with where I drag and drop all incoming as : well : : as sent mail so I can go to any folder and have a full history of my : : correspondence with that person. : : : : Somehow I don't think this will be possible but one never knows. Anybody : out : : there with clever ideas? If I export my .dbx files from my other : computer : : and import them to my mainstay computer, the existing .dbx files on my : main : : computer will be overwritten for sure. : : : : Why are email files lumped all into .dbx files instead of being saved : : individually like word documents etc anyway? : : : : -- : : Jackanory : : : : : : : |
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You should not have a file much over a few hundred megabytes or so, at least
one that is often active. You should also make frequent backups of whatever you consider important, as your hard drive could die or other such things could happen and you'd lose all of it otherwise. steve "Jackanory" wrote in message .uk... Thanks Steve. I will have a careful look at those pages. In the meantime have a look at what I wrote in response to Ron's reply. Basically I am trying to have the different messages on the two computers (i.e. 2 lots of identically named .dbx files MERGED into ONE .dbx file. And this I will have to do for around 30 persons I correspond with. Remember also that I drag MY sent messages to these sub-folders of the Inbox main folder so that I have a seamless record of my correspondence with these people going over a period extending back beyond 2 years. One of these days I am going to reach the limit of what OE6 can keep track of, I am sure!!!! But my system DOES come in very handy when I need to go back and see what the correspondence said say 6 months or a year ago. I gave up having rules to automatically sort out and distribute my Incoming Mail to the various subfolders around a year ago. I now prefer ALL my correspondence to land in my Inbox from where I drag and drop it to the individual's subfolder together with my reply from the Sent folder once I have replied to it. What is the limit of messages OE6 can cope with, if you know? I remember reading somewhere that there IS a limit to the number of messages OE6 can deal with. Or am I wrong? -- Jackanory "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... Use File | Import | Messages in OE and don't try and do it manually. See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4 and www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx steve "Jackanory" wrote in message o.uk... Problem For some months I had to use another computer for my emails. Now I am back to my usual computer and would like to import my .dbx files from my other computer to my main computer BUT without overwriting my existing .dbx files so that I have continuity. Is this possible and how? I DO have rather a complex setup with folders and subfolders for some 20 to 30 persons etc I correspond with where I drag and drop all incoming as well as sent mail so I can go to any folder and have a full history of my correspondence with that person. Somehow I don't think this will be possible but one never knows. Anybody out there with clever ideas? If I export my .dbx files from my other computer and import them to my mainstay computer, the existing .dbx files on my main computer will be overwritten for sure. Why are email files lumped all into .dbx files instead of being saved individually like word documents etc anyway? -- Jackanory |
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First, thanks for your reply. The idea of creating a new folder as you
suggest obviously has its advantages particularly for periodic backing up of one's documents etc. It simplifies the backing up (or actually making identical copies rather than the standard backing up with compression) in the sense that one can easily retrieve individual documents etc. or in this case individual .dbx files. Very sensible in view of the fact that the default location of the .dbx files lie so deep within the tree structure. Now, if I specify a folder for the .dbx files I will obviously have also to configure OE6 to access and save to that particular folder/subfolders. Won't this immediately create the problem I am trying to avoid i.e. not having two lots of .dbx files in two different locations -- I am after merging the subfolders so that emails from both computers will be visible simultaneously/together and at the same moment in real time? After all OE6 can only be configured to look at a particular location for the .dbx files. But for the purpose of getting backup copies of the dbx files, I will specify another folder for OE6 .dbx files even if just to facilitate periodic backing up of the dbx files using an xcopy command at the DOS prompt. I think this is a great idea that I've been aware of for a while. I don't know why I've neglected it for so long. Incidentally, I have devised an xcopy command which works a treat for backing up or rather making identical copies of "My Documents" including all the subfolders onto an external hard disk. The command can easily be doctored for various needs and circumstances. Good old DOS commands! If anybody is interested I will post the C:\ prompt xcopy command here. (Incidentally I would never add the command to delete files on the external disk that no longer exist on the computer's internal hard disk. Yes, it helps synchronize My Documents with the backup copies on the exteernal disk BUT it IS a bit dicey if you ask me. The xcopy command I have devised is somewhat sophisticated in that it will recopy any updated files but will skip files that have not been updated. Sorry I am so verbose. People will suspect that I am used to being paid by wordage/word count!!! -- Jackanory "Ron Sommer" wrote in message ... Create a new folder in My Computer or Windows Explorer. Move the old computer dbx files into the new folder. You do not paste dbx files into an OE folder. You are going to import, so there will not be folders overwritten. "Jackanory" wrote in message .uk... :I get the idea. Basically it is a copy and paste job. Thanks for the info : that one cannot export and import the OE .dbx files except into MS Outlook : (as opposed to OE) and MS Exchange. I wonder why not? But that is another : issue! : :snipped -- : Jackanory : : "Ron Sommer" wrote in message : ... : You do not export to move the dbx files. : The messages and folders will be added to the existing messages and : folders. : : This is what you should do: : : On the other computer: : In OE, Tools, Options, Maintenance tab, Store Folder button, right click, : Select All, right click, copy. : Close OE. : Start, Run, right click, Paste. : OK : NOTE: in XP the dbx files may be hidden, in My Computer, Tools, Folder : Options, View tab, check Show hidden files. : : Move the files to a new folder *created in My Computer or Windows Explorer* on the new computer. : Highlight all of the files and make sure the Read Only attribute is not : set. : Open OE, File, Import, Messages, OE6, Message store directory, then browse : to the new folder. : -- : Ronald Sommer : : : "Jackanory" wrote in message : o.uk... : : Problem : : For some months I had to use another computer for my emails. Now I am : back : : to my usual computer and would like to import my .dbx files from my : other : : computer to my main computer BUT without overwriting my existing .dbx : files : : so that I have continuity. Is this possible and how? : : : : I DO have rather a complex setup with folders and subfolders for some : 20 : to : : 30 persons etc I correspond with where I drag and drop all incoming as : well : : as sent mail so I can go to any folder and have a full history of my : : correspondence with that person. : : : : Somehow I don't think this will be possible but one never knows. Anybody : out : : there with clever ideas? If I export my .dbx files from my other : computer : : and import them to my mainstay computer, the existing .dbx files on my : main : : computer will be overwritten for sure. : : : : Why are email files lumped all into .dbx files instead of being saved : : individually like word documents etc anyway? : : : : -- : : Jackanory : : : : : : : |
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Thanks Steve. Incidentally have a look at my response to Ron. I am toying
with the idea of getting my OE6 to save its stuff into 'My Documents'. IF it works then I can use my xcopy command at the DOS prompt to save all My Documents AS WELL AS the .dbx files in one go. But can OE6 cope with this or do the OE6 .dbx files have to be either in their default locations or either in My Computer or Windows Explorer (as suggested by Ron) for OE6 to work? Why oh why are the .dbx files so well hidden away by default?! If memory serves me right, I think once I did a search for the .dbx files, copied them and then successfully imported them. Though while importing the old .dbx files from the copies made as backups one or two very recent emails were overwritten in the process. If memory serves me right, I did this for a friend while updating from Windows ME to Windows XP after reformatting the hard disk for a clean installation and changing the formatting from FAT32 to NTFS. 'My Documents' were a breeze to put back on and though I had copies of the .dbx files, I didn't bother to import the .dbx files immediately. In the meantime my friend had received and sent a few emails Nothing important but those few days' emails were lost in the process of importing the old .dbx files when the existing small .dbx files were overwritten. And THIS is what I am trying to avoid this time as there is a lot of important communication on both computers. Don't worry, I have had a hard drive die down on me and I know what happens. I did lose a couple of months' work then. We never learn to back up at least once weekly, do we? I now use a 2.5" external hard disk with a USB connection for backing up without the need for an external power supply. Much easier than looking for the damned power supply unit and the 2.5" drive hard disks are comparatively so small and easy to handle. Or do you think we are getting too lazy? -- Jackanory "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... You should not have a file much over a few hundred megabytes or so, at least one that is often active. You should also make frequent backups of whatever you consider important, as your hard drive could die or other such things could happen and you'd lose all of it otherwise. steve "Jackanory" wrote in message .uk... Thanks Steve. I will have a careful look at those pages. In the meantime have a look at what I wrote in response to Ron's reply. Basically I am trying to have the different messages on the two computers (i.e. 2 lots of identically named .dbx files MERGED into ONE .dbx file. And this I will have to do for around 30 persons I correspond with. Remember also that I drag MY sent messages to these sub-folders of the Inbox main folder so that I have a seamless record of my correspondence with these people going over a period extending back beyond 2 years. One of these days I am going to reach the limit of what OE6 can keep track of, I am sure!!!! But my system DOES come in very handy when I need to go back and see what the correspondence said say 6 months or a year ago. I gave up having rules to automatically sort out and distribute my Incoming Mail to the various subfolders around a year ago. I now prefer ALL my correspondence to land in my Inbox from where I drag and drop it to the individual's subfolder together with my reply from the Sent folder once I have replied to it. What is the limit of messages OE6 can cope with, if you know? I remember reading somewhere that there IS a limit to the number of messages OE6 can deal with. Or am I wrong? -- Jackanory "Steve Cochran" wrote in message ... Use File | Import | Messages in OE and don't try and do it manually. See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4 and www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx steve "Jackanory" wrote in message o.uk... Problem For some months I had to use another computer for my emails. Now I am back to my usual computer and would like to import my .dbx files from my other computer to my main computer BUT without overwriting my existing .dbx files so that I have continuity. Is this possible and how? I DO have rather a complex setup with folders and subfolders for some 20 to 30 persons etc I correspond with where I drag and drop all incoming as well as sent mail so I can go to any folder and have a full history of my correspondence with that person. Somehow I don't think this will be possible but one never knows. Anybody out there with clever ideas? If I export my .dbx files from my other computer and import them to my mainstay computer, the existing .dbx files on my main computer will be overwritten for sure. Why are email files lumped all into .dbx files instead of being saved individually like word documents etc anyway? -- Jackanory |
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http://www.insideoe.com/backup/clone.htm
If you are backing up OE, you need to backup the Address Book and part of the Registry. When transferring OE messages from another computer, the purpose of creating a new folder to hold the OE files is so that I don't have to get into a discussion on what method to use to transfer the OE files. You could burn the files to a CD, use a flash drive, transfer over a network, use an external hard drive, etc.. Files on a CD are marked Read Only and OE cannot import Read Only files. The flash drive may not be large enough to hold all of the files at one time. -- Ronald Sommer "Jackanory" wrote in message o.uk... : First, thanks for your reply. The idea of creating a new folder as you : suggest obviously has its advantages particularly for periodic backing up of : one's documents etc. It simplifies the backing up (or actually making : identical copies rather than the standard backing up with compression) in : the sense that one can easily retrieve individual documents etc. or in this : case individual .dbx files. Very sensible in view of the fact that the : default location of the .dbx files lie so deep within the tree structure. : : Now, if I specify a folder for the .dbx files I will obviously have also to : configure OE6 to access and save to that particular folder/subfolders. Won't : this immediately create the problem I am trying to avoid i.e. not having : two lots of .dbx files in two different locations -- I am after merging the : subfolders so that emails from both computers will be visible : simultaneously/together and at the same moment in real time? After all OE6 : can only be configured to look at a particular location for the .dbx files. : : But for the purpose of getting backup copies of the dbx files, I will : specify another folder for OE6 .dbx files even if just to facilitate : periodic backing up of the dbx files using an xcopy command at the DOS : prompt. I think this is a great idea that I've been aware of for a while. I : don't know why I've neglected it for so long. : : Incidentally, I have devised an xcopy command which works a treat for : backing up or rather making identical copies of "My Documents" including all : the subfolders onto an external hard disk. The command can easily be : doctored for various needs and circumstances. Good old DOS commands! If : anybody is interested I will post the C:\ prompt xcopy command here. : (Incidentally I would never add the command to delete files on the external : disk that no longer exist on the computer's internal hard disk. Yes, it : helps synchronize My Documents with the backup copies on the exteernal disk : BUT it IS a bit dicey if you ask me. The xcopy command I have devised is : somewhat sophisticated in that it will recopy any updated files but will : skip files that have not been updated. : : Sorry I am so verbose. People will suspect that I am used to being paid by : wordage/word count!!! : -- : Jackanory : : : "Ron Sommer" wrote in message : ... : Create a new folder in My Computer or Windows Explorer. : Move the old computer dbx files into the new folder. : You do not paste dbx files into an OE folder. : You are going to import, so there will not be folders overwritten. : : : "Jackanory" wrote in message : .uk... : :I get the idea. Basically it is a copy and paste job. Thanks for the info : : that one cannot export and import the OE .dbx files except into MS : Outlook : : (as opposed to OE) and MS Exchange. I wonder why not? But that is : another : : issue! : : : :snipped : -- : : Jackanory : : : : "Ron Sommer" wrote in message : : ... : : You do not export to move the dbx files. : : The messages and folders will be added to the existing messages and : : folders. : : : : This is what you should do: : : : : On the other computer: : : In OE, Tools, Options, Maintenance tab, Store Folder button, right : click, : : Select All, right click, copy. : : Close OE. : : Start, Run, right click, Paste. : : OK : : NOTE: in XP the dbx files may be hidden, in My Computer, Tools, Folder : : Options, View tab, check Show hidden files. : : : : Move the files to a new folder *created in My Computer or Windows : Explorer* on the new computer. : : Highlight all of the files and make sure the Read Only attribute is : not : : set. : : Open OE, File, Import, Messages, OE6, Message store directory, then : browse : : to the new folder. : : -- : : Ronald Sommer : : : : : : "Jackanory" wrote in message : : o.uk... : : : Problem : : : For some months I had to use another computer for my emails. Now I : am : : back : : : to my usual computer and would like to import my .dbx files from my : : other : : : computer to my main computer BUT without overwriting my existing : .dbx : : files : : : so that I have continuity. Is this possible and how? : : : : : : I DO have rather a complex setup with folders and subfolders for : some : : 20 : : to : : : 30 persons etc I correspond with where I drag and drop all incoming : as : : well : : : as sent mail so I can go to any folder and have a full history of my : : : correspondence with that person. : : : : : : Somehow I don't think this will be possible but one never knows. : Anybody : : out : : : there with clever ideas? If I export my .dbx files from my other : : computer : : : and import them to my mainstay computer, the existing .dbx files on : my : : main : : : computer will be overwritten for sure. : : : : : : Why are email files lumped all into .dbx files instead of being : saved : : : individually like word documents etc anyway? : : : : : : -- : : : Jackanory : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : |
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