The issue of AVG being greyed out after email scanning has been turned off,
Gem
"PA Bear" wrote in message ...
What issue?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
"Gemma" wrote in message ...
Thanks, that solved my issue with AVG.
Gem.
"PA Bear" wrote in message ...
What I don't understand is why this is only happening with one person
receiving my e-mails. Is it possible that he also has set up to scan the
e-mails, and when both sender and recipient are doing that, things go
bananas.

Absolutely.

NB: If you disable AVG AV's Email Scanning, WinXP Security Center won't like
it and the AVG AV icon in Notification Area will remain grayed-out until you
re-enable it. The workaround would be to uninstall AVG AV (make sure you
have your key handy) and then reinstall it, selecting a Custom install and
opting-out of installing Email Scanning component.

I no longer recommend any version of AVG AV now, Ron.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


Ron Hirsch wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I will give that a try.

What I don't understand is why this is only happening with one person
receiving my e-mails. Is it possible that he also has set up to scan the
e-mails, and when both sender and recipient are doing that, things go
bananas.

It may well be related to that though, as I just installed the latest
update
to my paid version of AVG a week or so ago, and there is now a different
message at the bottom of e-mails re that.

I'll report back after I check this out.

Thanks again

Ron Hirsch

+++++++++++++++++++++++++


"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no
additional protection, it's the most likely cause of the problem, and even
Symantec says it's not necessary:

paste
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions.
/paste
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...02111812533106

Ron Hirsch wrote:
Every so often, I experience some strange happenings in Outlook Express
6.00.2900.2180

I normally work in Rich Text(HTML) mode, and I use some background
stationery, and an MS font "Comic Sans MS".

I always send and reply in HTML.

Once in a very great while, I'll get a message from someone which shows
up
in "Plain Text" mode, and the message is loaded with lots of what looks
like
HTML codes, and is a real mess. But this is very rare.

About 6 months ago, one of my friends advised me that he was getting all
the
mail I sent him, in that "messed up" mode. But all his other e-mails were
coming in fine. I checked over my system, and sent several test message
to
myself and others, but they all were fine. Suddenly after a few weeks of
this, everything returned to normal at his end - my end was normal for
receiving and sending, all through this. And things have stayed normal
since
then.

I didn't make any changes to my system or settings during all this
period,
as I couldn't find anything wrong anywhere.

Today, a different one of my very computer savvy friends reported the
same
situation. My HTML messages to him were coming through in plain text, and
had the tons of HTML garbage coding visible in the text. He also always
works in HTML mode.

He clicked on "reply", and the window that came up was in plain text.
When
he tried to switch to HTML mode, it refused to do so.

So I went to another one of my machines, generated a similar HTML
message,
with a jpg image in it, and sent it to him, and a copy to myself. This
time,
his copy and my copy both arrived fine - HTML all the way.

I'm at a loss to understand what is happening, and what the fix might be.
Right now, his machine is the only machine I've sent to which shows this
problem. But when I sent to him from a different machine - all was well.
So
obviously, there must be some setting on my main machine that's related
to
the problem - but it isn't a problem for anyone else I send to.

Does anyone have any ideas -

Ron Hirsch

open Avg Control center
click email scanner icon
properties
check Ignore status of plugin
ok out

--
-
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://www.safer-networking.org
AVG free antivirus http://free.grisoft.com/
Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Super Antispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com
Panda online AntiSpyware Scan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387
Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before
use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
_
"Gemma" wrote in message
...
The issue of AVG being greyed out after email scanning has been turned off,
Gem
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
What issue?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
"Gemma" wrote in message
...
Thanks, that solved my issue with AVG.
Gem.
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
What I don't understand is why this is only happening with one person
receiving my e-mails. Is it possible that he also has set up to scan the
e-mails, and when both sender and recipient are doing that, things go
bananas.

Absolutely.

NB: If you disable AVG AV's Email Scanning, WinXP Security Center won't
like
it and the AVG AV icon in Notification Area will remain grayed-out until
you
re-enable it. The workaround would be to uninstall AVG AV (make sure you
have your key handy) and then reinstall it, selecting a Custom install and
opting-out of installing Email Scanning component.

I no longer recommend any version of AVG AV now, Ron.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


Ron Hirsch wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I will give that a try.

What I don't understand is why this is only happening with one person
receiving my e-mails. Is it possible that he also has set up to scan the
e-mails, and when both sender and recipient are doing that, things go
bananas.

It may well be related to that though, as I just installed the latest
update
to my paid version of AVG a week or so ago, and there is now a different
message at the bottom of e-mails re that.

I'll report back after I check this out.

Thanks again

Ron Hirsch

+++++++++++++++++++++++++


"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no
additional protection, it's the most likely cause of the problem, and
even
Symantec says it's not necessary:

paste
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect
scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this.
To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you
have
the most recent virus definitions.
/paste
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...02111812533106

Ron Hirsch wrote:
Every so often, I experience some strange happenings in Outlook Express
6.00.2900.2180

I normally work in Rich Text(HTML) mode, and I use some background
stationery, and an MS font "Comic Sans MS".

I always send and reply in HTML.

Once in a very great while, I'll get a message from someone which shows
up
in "Plain Text" mode, and the message is loaded with lots of what looks
like
HTML codes, and is a real mess. But this is very rare.

About 6 months ago, one of my friends advised me that he was getting
all
the
mail I sent him, in that "messed up" mode. But all his other e-mails
were
coming in fine. I checked over my system, and sent several test message
to
myself and others, but they all were fine. Suddenly after a few weeks
of
this, everything returned to normal at his end - my end was normal for
receiving and sending, all through this. And things have stayed normal
since
then.

I didn't make any changes to my system or settings during all this
period,
as I couldn't find anything wrong anywhere.

Today, a different one of my very computer savvy friends reported the
same
situation. My HTML messages to him were coming through in plain text,
and
had the tons of HTML garbage coding visible in the text. He also always
works in HTML mode.

He clicked on "reply", and the window that came up was in plain text.
When
he tried to switch to HTML mode, it refused to do so.

So I went to another one of my machines, generated a similar HTML
message,
with a jpg image in it, and sent it to him, and a copy to myself. This
time,
his copy and my copy both arrived fine - HTML all the way.

I'm at a loss to understand what is happening, and what the fix might
be.
Right now, his machine is the only machine I've sent to which shows
this
problem. But when I sent to him from a different machine - all was
well.
So
obviously, there must be some setting on my main machine that's related
to
the problem - but it isn't a problem for anyone else I send to.

Does anyone have any ideas -

Ron Hirsch

Appreciate the input, thank you.
Gem
"AlmostBob" wrote in message ...
open Avg Control center
click email scanner icon
properties
check Ignore status of plugin
ok out

--
-
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://www.safer-networking.org
AVG free antivirus http://free.grisoft.com/
Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Super Antispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com
Panda online AntiSpyware Scan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387
Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before
use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
_
"Gemma" wrote in message
...
The issue of AVG being greyed out after email scanning has been turned off,
Gem
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
What issue?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
"Gemma" wrote in message
...
Thanks, that solved my issue with AVG.
Gem.
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
What I don't understand is why this is only happening with one person
receiving my e-mails. Is it possible that he also has set up to scan the
e-mails, and when both sender and recipient are doing that, things go
bananas.

Absolutely.

NB: If you disable AVG AV's Email Scanning, WinXP Security Center won't
like
it and the AVG AV icon in Notification Area will remain grayed-out until
you
re-enable it. The workaround would be to uninstall AVG AV (make sure you
have your key handy) and then reinstall it, selecting a Custom install and
opting-out of installing Email Scanning component.

I no longer recommend any version of AVG AV now, Ron.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


Ron Hirsch wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I will give that a try.

What I don't understand is why this is only happening with one person
receiving my e-mails. Is it possible that he also has set up to scan the
e-mails, and when both sender and recipient are doing that, things go
bananas.

It may well be related to that though, as I just installed the latest
update
to my paid version of AVG a week or so ago, and there is now a different
message at the bottom of e-mails re that.

I'll report back after I check this out.

Thanks again

Ron Hirsch

+++++++++++++++++++++++++


"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no
additional protection, it's the most likely cause of the problem, and
even
Symantec says it's not necessary:

paste
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect
scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this.
To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you
have
the most recent virus definitions.
/paste
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...02111812533106

Ron Hirsch wrote:
Every so often, I experience some strange happenings in Outlook Express
6.00.2900.2180

I normally work in Rich Text(HTML) mode, and I use some background
stationery, and an MS font "Comic Sans MS".

I always send and reply in HTML.

Once in a very great while, I'll get a message from someone which shows
up
in "Plain Text" mode, and the message is loaded with lots of what looks
like
HTML codes, and is a real mess. But this is very rare.

About 6 months ago, one of my friends advised me that he was getting
all
the
mail I sent him, in that "messed up" mode. But all his other e-mails
were
coming in fine. I checked over my system, and sent several test message
to
myself and others, but they all were fine. Suddenly after a few weeks
of
this, everything returned to normal at his end - my end was normal for
receiving and sending, all through this. And things have stayed normal
since
then.

I didn't make any changes to my system or settings during all this
period,
as I couldn't find anything wrong anywhere.

Today, a different one of my very computer savvy friends reported the
same
situation. My HTML messages to him were coming through in plain text,
and
had the tons of HTML garbage coding visible in the text. He also always
works in HTML mode.

He clicked on "reply", and the window that came up was in plain text.
When
he tried to switch to HTML mode, it refused to do so.

So I went to another one of my machines, generated a similar HTML
message,
with a jpg image in it, and sent it to him, and a copy to myself. This
time,
his copy and my copy both arrived fine - HTML all the way.

I'm at a loss to understand what is happening, and what the fix might
be.
Right now, his machine is the only machine I've sent to which shows
this
problem. But when I sent to him from a different machine - all was
well.
So
obviously, there must be some setting on my main machine that's related
to
the problem - but it isn't a problem for anyone else I send to.

Does anyone have any ideas -

Ron Hirsch

After I disabled the outgoing AVG e-mail scanning, I noticed that on my next
bootup it had reset itself to back on.

Then it dawned on me that since I installed the latest version of Spyware
Doctor a short time ago, it now was adding a tag line at the bottom of
mesages that I sent, stating that it had scanned the message also. And this
was something new - that I hadn't seen before. Unlike AVG, disabling this
inn Spyware Doctor did not get it "upset" at all.

I then sent a message off to my friend who was having all the problems with
my mail, and it went through fine.

So it seems that the problem was related to a double scan at my end, coupled
with whatever he was doing at his end.

Hopefully all is now back on track.

Thanks to all who participated in helping me with this situation.

Ron Hirsch

"Ron Hirsch" wrote in message
...
After I disabled the outgoing AVG e-mail scanning, I noticed that on my
next
bootup it had reset itself to back on.

Then it dawned on me that since I installed the latest version of Spyware
Doctor a short time ago, it now was adding a tag line at the bottom of
mesages that I sent, stating that it had scanned the message also. And
this
was something new - that I hadn't seen before. Unlike AVG, disabling this
inn Spyware Doctor did not get it "upset" at all.

I then sent a message off to my friend who was having all the problems
with
my mail, and it went through fine.

So it seems that the problem was related to a double scan at my end,
coupled
with whatever he was doing at his end.

Hopefully all is now back on track.

Thanks to all who participated in helping me with this situation.

Ron Hirsch


Spyware Doctor prevents a lot of changes to the Registry. That is why AVG
email scanning returned after a restart. Spyware Doctor did not allow AVG
to record your change in the Registry.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.

Hi Frank,

Thanks for the info. With the plethora of "security" software needed these
days to keep the *******s out there from infecting the public, it can get
difficult to keep things in order.

When I went to install a new version/update of Zone Alarm recently, I got an
error message at the start, that my version of Spyware Doctor was not
compatible with the new ZA, and that I should get the latest upgrade. I had
this upgrade, and was planning installing it next. So I then installed it
first, and the new ZA installed properly.

I wish MS would get rid of the Registry. It seems to me that each program
should keep its own "stuff" in its installation floder/tree. The Registry is
so fraught with complexities that it can get to be a real PITA, and very
difficult to keep clean and organized. If MS wants the Registry for the OS,
so be it. But for other software - who wants it? Maybe in the future, when
hybrid HD's start to flourish, the Registry will get replaced with something
better.

I do plan on going back to plain text, in my general e-mail messages, except
for those occasions when I want to include images and the like in the
message.

Thanks again -

Ron Hirsch

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
"Ron Hirsch" wrote in message
...

Spyware Doctor prevents a lot of changes to the Registry. That is why AVG
email scanning returned after a restart. Spyware Doctor did not allow AVG
to record your change in the Registry.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.