I recently compacted my folders, and now have found all the folders.bak in
the recycle bin. I assumed they were old .bak files, so did a search for the
current .bak but didn't find them.

This is the first time I noticed .bak files in the recycle bin. Is this
normal ? Do I no longer have .bak files ?

Thanks,

--



Steve Mc

DNA to SBC to respond

Those would be backup files, created during the compacting operation. They
ought to be backups of the .dbx files which you should still have.
--
David Biddulph

"Steve Mc" wrote in message
. net...
I recently compacted my folders, and now have found all the folders.bak in
the recycle bin. I assumed they were old .bak files, so did a search for
the current .bak but didn't find them.

This is the first time I noticed .bak files in the recycle bin. Is this
normal ? Do I no longer have .bak files ?

Thanks,

--

Steve Mc

This is due to a recent OE update, (KB923694). Now when you compact, a copy
of your dbx files are sent to the Recycle Bin in the event that something
should go wrong and messages, or entire folders, are lost when you are
compacting.

Many people do not back up Outlook Express on a regular basis. This new
mandatory backup is something people have been asking for quite awhile as we
spend a lot of time helping people getting their messages back, and they
have to purchase a tool to recover messages.

You can empty the Recycle Bin any time you want and the bak files will go
away until you compact again.

For more info, see the information outlined in red he
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

If you don't currently back up OE regularly, I would suggest you get this,
or a similar tool, (freeware):

This freeware tool backs up everything in OE in seconds. Disregard what is
written in red. That is referring to a different program.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Steve Mc" wrote in message
. net...
I recently compacted my folders, and now have found all the folders.bak in
the recycle bin. I assumed they were old .bak files, so did a search for
the current .bak but didn't find them.

This is the first time I noticed .bak files in the recycle bin. Is this
normal ? Do I no longer have .bak files ?

Thanks,

--



Steve Mc

DNA to SBC to respond

See http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=135065#135065; also see the Notes
section of the following KB article for an explanation of sorts:

All e-mail items may be missing when you start Outlook Express 6 Service
Pack 1
[NB: Despite what the KB article might imply, you do NOT need to install
KB918766!]
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918069

To restore a BAK file in the Recycle Bin to your store folder:

1. Tools Options Maintenance Store folder will reveal the location of
your current Identity's store
(http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain). Write it down.

[In WinXP, Win2K and Win2K03, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are marked as
hidden by default. To view these files in Windows Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders via Start Control Panel Folder Options
View.]

2a. Close OE.

2b. In Windows Explorer, navigate to your store Click on the DBX file
associated with the missing, or empty, folder (e.g., Inbox.dbx) and Move
(drag) it to your desktop for safety's sake.

3. Minimize the store folder.

4. Open OE:

- If the folder in question is missing, create a new folder with the same
name as the one you want to restore (e.g., if the file to restore is
Saved.bak, name the new folder Saved). Open the new folder (important!) and
then close OE.

- If the folder is still there (e.g., Saved.dbx) but just empty, continue to
Step 5.

5a. Close OE.

5b. Open the Recycle Bin and right-click on the BAK file you want to restore
(e.g, Saved.bak) and select Restore. Now re-open your store folder and
rename the file, replacing the BAK extension with DBX (e.g., rename
Saved.bak to Saved.dbx).

6. Close Windows Explorer, open OE and you should find your messages have
been restored to the folder in question.

7. Assuming all is well, you may now delete the DBX file that you moved to
the desktop in Step 2 above.

If, however, the folder is still empty, run this recovery tool of MVP Steve
Cochran's on the DBX file that you moved to the desktop in Step 2 above:

DBXpress
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

Also see http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and #4)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


Steve Mc wrote:
I recently compacted my folders, and now have found all the folders.bak in
the recycle bin. I assumed they were old .bak files, so did a search for
the
current .bak but didn't find them.

This is the first time I noticed .bak files in the recycle bin. Is this
normal ? Do I no longer have .bak files ?

Thanks,

Steve, to add specifics to your two questions.
1. Normal, yes
2. *.bak files ?, you didn't have them before the update that now places a copy in your recycle bin after compacting. This is a precautionary measure in case the primary files in your store become corrupted or deleted or a manual backup is not being done.

"Steve Mc" wrote in message . net...
:I recently compacted my folders, and now have found all the folders.bak in
: the recycle bin. I assumed they were old .bak files, so did a search for the
: current .bak but didn't find them.
:
: This is the first time I noticed .bak files in the recycle bin. Is this
: normal ? Do I no longer have .bak files ?
:
: Thanks,
:
: --
:
:
:
: Steve Mc
:
: DNA to SBC to respond
:
:
:

Thanks guys for all the info.
The OEQB has me interested, but I'm a bit confused in regard to the
following from http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx:
"If you have already installed previous versions of the programs, download
the newest executable file and then replace the older one.
If you have not downloaded a previous version, then download the older
install versions and the new executables and then after installation,
replace the installed exe files with the newer downloads.

Current Version: 1.3.0.6

Am I missing finding the older install version ?

Thanks,
--



Steve Mc

DNA to SBC to respond


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
This is due to a recent OE update, (KB923694). Now when you compact, a
copy of your dbx files are sent to the Recycle Bin in the event that
something should go wrong and messages, or entire folders, are lost when
you are compacting.

Many people do not back up Outlook Express on a regular basis. This new
mandatory backup is something people have been asking for quite awhile as
we spend a lot of time helping people getting their messages back, and
they have to purchase a tool to recover messages.

You can empty the Recycle Bin any time you want and the bak files will go
away until you compact again.

For more info, see the information outlined in red he
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

If you don't currently back up OE regularly, I would suggest you get this,
or a similar tool, (freeware):

This freeware tool backs up everything in OE in seconds. Disregard what is
written in red. That is referring to a different program.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Steve Mc" wrote in message
. net...
I recently compacted my folders, and now have found all the folders.bak in
the recycle bin. I assumed they were old .bak files, so did a search for
the current .bak but didn't find them.

This is the first time I noticed .bak files in the recycle bin. Is this
normal ? Do I no longer have .bak files ?

Thanks,

--



Steve Mc

DNA to SBC to respond

Have you read the OEQB Help/Instructions?
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/oeqb.htm

If you have never downloaded it before, download what is at the site.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Steve Mc" wrote in message
t...
Thanks guys for all the info.
The OEQB has me interested, but I'm a bit confused in regard to the
following from http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx:
"If you have already installed previous versions of the programs, download
the newest executable file and then replace the older one.
If you have not downloaded a previous version, then download the older
install versions and the new executables and then after installation,
replace the installed exe files with the newer downloads.

Current Version: 1.3.0.6

Am I missing finding the older install version ?

Thanks,
--



Steve Mc

DNA to SBC to respond


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
This is due to a recent OE update, (KB923694). Now when you compact, a
copy of your dbx files are sent to the Recycle Bin in the event that
something should go wrong and messages, or entire folders, are lost when
you are compacting.

Many people do not back up Outlook Express on a regular basis. This new
mandatory backup is something people have been asking for quite awhile as
we spend a lot of time helping people getting their messages back, and
they have to purchase a tool to recover messages.

You can empty the Recycle Bin any time you want and the bak files will go
away until you compact again.

For more info, see the information outlined in red he
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

If you don't currently back up OE regularly, I would suggest you get
this,
or a similar tool, (freeware):

This freeware tool backs up everything in OE in seconds. Disregard what
is written in red. That is referring to a different program.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Steve Mc" wrote in message
. net...
I recently compacted my folders, and now have found all the folders.bak
in the recycle bin. I assumed they were old .bak files, so did a search
for the current .bak but didn't find them.

This is the first time I noticed .bak files in the recycle bin. Is this
normal ? Do I no longer have .bak files ?

Thanks,

--



Steve Mc

DNA to SBC to respond

Steve,
3 possibilities is how I interpreted it.

1. Full Install if OEQB is not installed(it includes VB6 runtime)
2. Partial Install(Lite OEQB version) if Visual Basic 6 Runtime is already installed on your machine.
3. Executable only(a more current version that replaces the executable after 1 or 2 are installed)


If you like to do things separately,
VB6 has been out since 1999, VB6 SP6 has been since the spring of 2004. Iirc, if Sp2(Aug 2004) is installed the vb6 runtime may already be present.

If not ..Vb6 sp6 can be obtained here.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Once installed then item 2 and 3 are applicable.

...winston


"Steve Mc" wrote in message t...
: Thanks guys for all the info.
: The OEQB has me interested, but I'm a bit confused in regard to the
: following from http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx:
: "If you have already installed previous versions of the programs, download
: the newest executable file and then replace the older one.
: If you have not downloaded a previous version, then download the older
: install versions and the new executables and then after installation,
: replace the installed exe files with the newer downloads.
:
: Current Version: 1.3.0.6
:
: Am I missing finding the older install version ?
:
: Thanks,
: --
:
:
:
: Steve Mc
:
: DNA to SBC to respond
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: This is due to a recent OE update, (KB923694). Now when you compact, a
: copy of your dbx files are sent to the Recycle Bin in the event that
: something should go wrong and messages, or entire folders, are lost when
: you are compacting.
:
: Many people do not back up Outlook Express on a regular basis. This new
: mandatory backup is something people have been asking for quite awhile as
: we spend a lot of time helping people getting their messages back, and
: they have to purchase a tool to recover messages.
:
: You can empty the Recycle Bin any time you want and the bak files will go
: away until you compact again.
:
: For more info, see the information outlined in red he
: www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2
:
: If you don't currently back up OE regularly, I would suggest you get this,
: or a similar tool, (freeware):
:
: This freeware tool backs up everything in OE in seconds. Disregard what is
: written in red. That is referring to a different program.
:
: Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):
: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "Steve Mc" wrote in message
: . net...
: I recently compacted my folders, and now have found all the folders.bak in
: the recycle bin. I assumed they were old .bak files, so did a search for
: the current .bak but didn't find them.
:
: This is the first time I noticed .bak files in the recycle bin. Is this
: normal ? Do I no longer have .bak files ?
:
: Thanks,
:
: --
:
:
:
: Steve Mc
:
: DNA to SBC to respond
:
:
:
:
:
:

"Steve Mc" wrote in message
. net...
I recently compacted my folders, and now have found all the folders.bak in
the recycle bin. I assumed they were old .bak files, so did a search for
the current .bak but didn't find them.

This is the first time I noticed .bak files in the recycle bin. Is this
normal ? Do I no longer have .bak files ?

Thanks,

--



Steve Mc

DNA to SBC to respond