If you are a Windows XP user and are experiencing problems with Outlook
Express 6 connecting (error 10061, 0x800CCC0E) when you log on from one user
to another and do not want to uninstall your Norton software than read on.
This problem started to occur right after I did a Windows Update (4/11
security updates). The following solution worked for me and may work for you.

1. Turn off Automatic Updates located in the Security Center.
2. Do a System Restore to the date prior to when you installed the last set
of security updates. To check the date, go to Add/Remove Programs and at the
top of the page select “Show all Updates.� This will allow you to view the
date the updates were installed.
3. Disable Norton
4. Run Windows Update to reinstall all security patches
5. Enable Norton
6. Always disable Norton before downloading any future security updates
using Windows Update. To do this, turn off Automatic Updates and select the
“notify me� option. This will allow you to disable Norton before downloading
and installing any future security updates.

No one has reported, as of yet, if uninstalling the Updates and then
reinstalling them with Norton disabled will work as well. I didn’t really
feel like testing that solution. But, for someone that doesn’t have Windows
XP (System Restore), this could be a fix to the problem. Don’t know?

I find it rather strange that anyone would trash their Norton program if
they have never experienced any previous problems with OE. It has still not
been “confirmed� that Norton is “directly� to blame for this particular issue.

Personally, I find it very hard to swallow that this issue has any direct
correlation with the problems associated with Norton and OE based on many
user reports that none of the workarounds that have been suggested and used
in the past to solve such compatibly issues with Norton and OE have worked on
this “particular issue� other than uninstalling Norton all together. Wow,
that was a mouthful! Also, that there have been numerous posts on several
forums that this issue occurred right after users installed the 4/11/07
security updates.

I just don’t like what I’ve been reading lately about Windows Updates and
conflicts with third party software. To be quite honest, I’ve had more
problems with Windows Updates than with Norton, and have found more
professional articles related to security update glitches than problems with
Norton and OE. By the way, I turned off the email scanning feature when I
first installed the program.

Happy computing everyone!!!

Just so others aren't confused, doing a System Restore is not the same as
reinstalling your OS. Emailing scanning features have been proven not to be
the culprit with this incident. I did turn this feature off when installed
the program almost 2 years ago.

"N. Miller" wrote:

On Tue, 15 May 2007 16:43:02 -0700, CNS wrote:

I just donʼt like what Iʼve been reading lately about Windows Updates and
conflicts with third party software. To be quite honest, Iʼve had more
problems with Windows Updates than with Norton, and have found more
professional articles related to security update glitches than problems with
Norton and OE. By the way, I turned off the email scanning feature when I
first installed the program.

I have only had two Windows Updates that broke anything; neither required
reinstalling the OS.

Norton System Doctor royally screwed my Windows ME computer. Norton Anti
Virus email scanning has been confirmed to royally screw MS Outlook Express
email stores, and even the Symantec site confirms that email scanning in not
necessary.

| http://groups.google.com/group/micro...43622cfc 56c9

And Symantec clearly states that their Anti Virus email scanner is not
compatible with servers using SSL:

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01091807593406

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

"CNS" wrote in message
...

If you are a Windows XP user and are experiencing problems with Outlook
Express 6 connecting (error 10061, 0x800CCC0E) when you log on from one
user
to another and do not want to uninstall your Norton software than read on.
This problem started to occur right after I did a Windows Update (4/11
security updates). The following solution worked for me and may work for
you.

1. Turn off Automatic Updates located in the Security Center.
2. Do a System Restore to the date prior to when you installed the last
set
of security updates. To check the date, go to Add/Remove Programs and at
the
top of the page select “Show all Updates.� This will allow you to view
the
date the updates were installed.
3. Disable Norton
4. Run Windows Update to reinstall all security patches
5. Enable Norton
6. Always disable Norton before downloading any future security updates
using Windows Update. To do this, turn off Automatic Updates and select
the
“notify me� option. This will allow you to disable Norton before
downloading
and installing any future security updates.

No one has reported, as of yet, if uninstalling the Updates and then
reinstalling them with Norton disabled will work as well. I didn’t really
feel like testing that solution. But, for someone that doesn’t have
Windows
XP (System Restore), this could be a fix to the problem. Don’t know?

I find it rather strange that anyone would trash their Norton program if
they have never experienced any previous problems with OE. It has still
not
been “confirmed� that Norton is “directly� to blame for this particular
issue.

Personally, I find it very hard to swallow that this issue has any direct
correlation with the problems associated with Norton and OE based on many
user reports that none of the workarounds that have been suggested and
used
in the past to solve such compatibly issues with Norton and OE have worked
on
this “particular issue� other than uninstalling Norton all together. Wow,
that was a mouthful! Also, that there have been numerous posts on several
forums that this issue occurred right after users installed the 4/11/07
security updates.

I just don’t like what I’ve been reading lately about Windows Updates and
conflicts with third party software. To be quite honest, I’ve had more
problems with Windows Updates than with Norton, and have found more
professional articles related to security update glitches than problems
with
Norton and OE. By the way, I turned off the email scanning feature when I
first installed the program.

Happy computing everyone!!!


If you have anything from Norton installed the best thing you can do for
your computer.

If you have Norton on a Chinese language computer and let Norton update you
won't be able to restart Windows.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

Remember Crash Guard? G

steve

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
"CNS" wrote in message
...

If you are a Windows XP user and are experiencing problems with Outlook
Express 6 connecting (error 10061, 0x800CCC0E) when you log on from one
user
to another and do not want to uninstall your Norton software than read
on.
This problem started to occur right after I did a Windows Update (4/11
security updates). The following solution worked for me and may work for
you.

1. Turn off Automatic Updates located in the Security Center.
2. Do a System Restore to the date prior to when you installed the last
set
of security updates. To check the date, go to Add/Remove Programs and at
the
top of the page select “Show all Updates.� This will allow you to view
the
date the updates were installed.
3. Disable Norton
4. Run Windows Update to reinstall all security patches
5. Enable Norton
6. Always disable Norton before downloading any future security updates
using Windows Update. To do this, turn off Automatic Updates and select
the
“notify me� option. This will allow you to disable Norton before
downloading
and installing any future security updates.

No one has reported, as of yet, if uninstalling the Updates and then
reinstalling them with Norton disabled will work as well. I didn’t
really
feel like testing that solution. But, for someone that doesn’t have
Windows
XP (System Restore), this could be a fix to the problem. Don’t know?

I find it rather strange that anyone would trash their Norton program if
they have never experienced any previous problems with OE. It has still
not
been “confirmed� that Norton is “directly� to blame for this particular
issue.

Personally, I find it very hard to swallow that this issue has any direct
correlation with the problems associated with Norton and OE based on many
user reports that none of the workarounds that have been suggested and
used
in the past to solve such compatibly issues with Norton and OE have
worked on
this “particular issue� other than uninstalling Norton all together.
Wow,
that was a mouthful! Also, that there have been numerous posts on
several
forums that this issue occurred right after users installed the 4/11/07
security updates.

I just don’t like what I’ve been reading lately about Windows Updates and
conflicts with third party software. To be quite honest, I’ve had more
problems with Windows Updates than with Norton, and have found more
professional articles related to security update glitches than problems
with
Norton and OE. By the way, I turned off the email scanning feature when
I
first installed the program.

Happy computing everyone!!!


If you have anything from Norton installed the best thing you can do for
your computer.

If you have Norton on a Chinese language computer and let Norton update
you won't be able to restart Windows.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Remember Crash Guard? G

steve


Trying to give me nightmares?

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.

You mean Crash Maker? G

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Remember Crash Guard? G

steve

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in
message ...
"CNS" wrote in message
...

If you are a Windows XP user and are experiencing problems with
Outlook
Express 6 connecting (error 10061, 0x800CCC0E) when you log on from
one user
to another and do not want to uninstall your Norton software than
read on.
This problem started to occur right after I did a Windows Update
(4/11
security updates). The following solution worked for me and may
work for you.

1. Turn off Automatic Updates located in the Security Center.
2. Do a System Restore to the date prior to when you installed the
last set
of security updates. To check the date, go to Add/Remove Programs
and at the
top of the page select "Show all Updates." This will allow you to
view the
date the updates were installed.
3. Disable Norton
4. Run Windows Update to reinstall all security patches
5. Enable Norton
6. Always disable Norton before downloading any future security
updates
using Windows Update. To do this, turn off Automatic Updates and
select the
"notify me" option. This will allow you to disable Norton before
downloading
and installing any future security updates.

No one has reported, as of yet, if uninstalling the Updates and then
reinstalling them with Norton disabled will work as well. I didn't
really
feel like testing that solution. But, for someone that doesn't have
Windows
XP (System Restore), this could be a fix to the problem. Don't
know?

I find it rather strange that anyone would trash their Norton
program if
they have never experienced any previous problems with OE. It has
still not
been "confirmed" that Norton is "directly" to blame for this
particular issue.

Personally, I find it very hard to swallow that this issue has any
direct
correlation with the problems associated with Norton and OE based on
many
user reports that none of the workarounds that have been suggested
and used
in the past to solve such compatibly issues with Norton and OE have
worked on
this "particular issue" other than uninstalling Norton all together.
Wow,
that was a mouthful! Also, that there have been numerous posts on
several
forums that this issue occurred right after users installed the
4/11/07
security updates.

I just don't like what I've been reading lately about Windows
Updates and
conflicts with third party software. To be quite honest, I've had
more
problems with Windows Updates than with Norton, and have found more
professional articles related to security update glitches than
problems with
Norton and OE. By the way, I turned off the email scanning feature
when I
first installed the program.

Happy computing everyone!!!


If you have anything from Norton installed the best thing you can do
for your computer.

If you have Norton on a Chinese language computer and let Norton
update you won't be able to restart Windows.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

Hi guys - I've been troubled with this problem on two occassions now - first
time was on an XP pro setup with updates completely disabled, and second
time, in the last few days, with a completely clean install of XP pro with
all updates installed. The only common thread is Norton Internet Security
installed and updated on both machines....

"CNS" wrote:


If you are a Windows XP user and are experiencing problems with Outlook
Express 6 connecting (error 10061, 0x800CCC0E) when you log on from one user
to another and do not want to uninstall your Norton software than read on.
This problem started to occur right after I did a Windows Update (4/11
security updates). The following solution worked for me and may work for you.

1. Turn off Automatic Updates located in the Security Center.
2. Do a System Restore to the date prior to when you installed the last set
of security updates. To check the date, go to Add/Remove Programs and at the
top of the page select “Show all Updates.� This will allow you to view the
date the updates were installed.
3. Disable Norton
4. Run Windows Update to reinstall all security patches
5. Enable Norton
6. Always disable Norton before downloading any future security updates
using Windows Update. To do this, turn off Automatic Updates and select the
“notify me� option. This will allow you to disable Norton before downloading
and installing any future security updates.

No one has reported, as of yet, if uninstalling the Updates and then
reinstalling them with Norton disabled will work as well. I didn’t really
feel like testing that solution. But, for someone that doesn’t have Windows
XP (System Restore), this could be a fix to the problem. Don’t know?

I find it rather strange that anyone would trash their Norton program if
they have never experienced any previous problems with OE. It has still not
been “confirmed� that Norton is “directly� to blame for this particular issue.

Personally, I find it very hard to swallow that this issue has any direct
correlation with the problems associated with Norton and OE based on many
user reports that none of the workarounds that have been suggested and used
in the past to solve such compatibly issues with Norton and OE have worked on
this “particular issue� other than uninstalling Norton all together. Wow,
that was a mouthful! Also, that there have been numerous posts on several
forums that this issue occurred right after users installed the 4/11/07
security updates.

I just don’t like what I’ve been reading lately about Windows Updates and
conflicts with third party software. To be quite honest, I’ve had more
problems with Windows Updates than with Norton, and have found more
professional articles related to security update glitches than problems with
Norton and OE. By the way, I turned off the email scanning feature when I
first installed the program.

Happy computing everyone!!!

Repost (I'm sure...):

Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no
additional protection and even Symantec says it's not necessary:

paste
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions.
/paste
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...02111812533106

Troubleshooting error messages that you receive when you are using OL and OE
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=813514
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

Tallusman wrote:
Hi guys - I've been troubled with this problem on two occassions now -
first
time was on an XP pro setup with updates completely disabled, and second
time, in the last few days, with a completely clean install of XP pro with
all updates installed. The only common thread is Norton Internet Security
installed and updated on both machines....

"CNS" wrote:


If you are a Windows XP user and are experiencing problems with Outlook
Express 6 connecting (error 10061, 0x800CCC0E) when you log on from one
user
to another and do not want to uninstall your Norton software than read
on.
This problem started to occur right after I did a Windows Update (4/11
security updates). The following solution worked for me and may work for
you.

1. Turn off Automatic Updates located in the Security Center.
2. Do a System Restore to the date prior to when you installed the last
set
of security updates. To check the date, go to Add/Remove Programs and at
the
top of the page select “Show all Updates.� This will allow you to
view the
date the updates were installed.
3. Disable Norton
4. Run Windows Update to reinstall all security patches
5. Enable Norton
6. Always disable Norton before downloading any future security updates
using Windows Update. To do this, turn off Automatic Updates and select
the “notify me� option. This will allow you to disable Norton before
downloading
and installing any future security updates.

No one has reported, as of yet, if uninstalling the Updates and then
reinstalling them with Norton disabled will work as well. I didn’t
really
feel like testing that solution. But, for someone that doesn’t have
Windows
XP (System Restore), this could be a fix to the problem. Don’t know?

I find it rather strange that anyone would trash their Norton program if
they have never experienced any previous problems with OE. It has still
not
been “confirmed� that Norton is “directly� to blame for this
particular issue.

Personally, I find it very hard to swallow that this issue has any direct
correlation with the problems associated with Norton and OE based on many
user reports that none of the workarounds that have been suggested and
used
in the past to solve such compatibly issues with Norton and OE have
worked
on
this “particular issue� other than uninstalling Norton all together.
Wow,
that was a mouthful! Also, that there have been numerous posts on
several
forums that this issue occurred right after users installed the 4/11/07
security updates.

I just don’t like what I’ve been reading lately about Windows Updates
and conflicts with third party software. To be quite honest, I’ve had
more
problems with Windows Updates than with Norton, and have found more
professional articles related to security update glitches than problems
with
Norton and OE. By the way, I turned off the email scanning feature when
I
first installed the program.

Happy computing everyone!!!

Having researched this at great depth I remain confused as to the specific
cause but it is clearly an issue between MS updates and Symantecs
ccEmailproxy and can someone with big hands please bang their heads
together????????

"Tallusman" wrote:

Hi guys - I've been troubled with this problem on two occassions now - first
time was on an XP pro setup with updates completely disabled, and second
time, in the last few days, with a completely clean install of XP pro with
all updates installed. The only common thread is Norton Internet Security
installed and updated on both machines....

"CNS" wrote:


If you are a Windows XP user and are experiencing problems with Outlook
Express 6 connecting (error 10061, 0x800CCC0E) when you log on from one user
to another and do not want to uninstall your Norton software than read on.
This problem started to occur right after I did a Windows Update (4/11
security updates). The following solution worked for me and may work for you.

1. Turn off Automatic Updates located in the Security Center.
2. Do a System Restore to the date prior to when you installed the last set
of security updates. To check the date, go to Add/Remove Programs and at the
top of the page select “Show all Updates.� This will allow you to view the
date the updates were installed.
3. Disable Norton
4. Run Windows Update to reinstall all security patches
5. Enable Norton
6. Always disable Norton before downloading any future security updates
using Windows Update. To do this, turn off Automatic Updates and select the
“notify me� option. This will allow you to disable Norton before downloading
and installing any future security updates.

No one has reported, as of yet, if uninstalling the Updates and then
reinstalling them with Norton disabled will work as well. I didn’t really
feel like testing that solution. But, for someone that doesn’t have Windows
XP (System Restore), this could be a fix to the problem. Don’t know?

I find it rather strange that anyone would trash their Norton program if
they have never experienced any previous problems with OE. It has still not
been “confirmed� that Norton is “directly� to blame for this particular issue.

Personally, I find it very hard to swallow that this issue has any direct
correlation with the problems associated with Norton and OE based on many
user reports that none of the workarounds that have been suggested and used
in the past to solve such compatibly issues with Norton and OE have worked on
this “particular issue� other than uninstalling Norton all together. Wow,
that was a mouthful! Also, that there have been numerous posts on several
forums that this issue occurred right after users installed the 4/11/07
security updates.

I just don’t like what I’ve been reading lately about Windows Updates and
conflicts with third party software. To be quite honest, I’ve had more
problems with Windows Updates than with Norton, and have found more
professional articles related to security update glitches than problems with
Norton and OE. By the way, I turned off the email scanning feature when I
first installed the program.

Happy computing everyone!!!

You need at least to turn off email scanning. See
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

steve

"Tallusman" wrote in message
...
Having researched this at great depth I remain confused as to the specific
cause but it is clearly an issue between MS updates and Symantecs
ccEmailproxy and can someone with big hands please bang their heads
together????????

"Tallusman" wrote:

Hi guys - I've been troubled with this problem on two occassions now -
first
time was on an XP pro setup with updates completely disabled, and second
time, in the last few days, with a completely clean install of XP pro
with
all updates installed. The only common thread is Norton Internet Security
installed and updated on both machines....

"CNS" wrote:


If you are a Windows XP user and are experiencing problems with Outlook
Express 6 connecting (error 10061, 0x800CCC0E) when you log on from one
user
to another and do not want to uninstall your Norton software than read
on.
This problem started to occur right after I did a Windows Update (4/11
security updates). The following solution worked for me and may work
for you.

1. Turn off Automatic Updates located in the Security Center.
2. Do a System Restore to the date prior to when you installed the
last set
of security updates. To check the date, go to Add/Remove Programs and
at the
top of the page select “Show all Updates.� This will allow you to view
the
date the updates were installed.
3. Disable Norton
4. Run Windows Update to reinstall all security patches
5. Enable Norton
6. Always disable Norton before downloading any future security
updates
using Windows Update. To do this, turn off Automatic Updates and
select the
“notify me� option. This will allow you to disable Norton before
downloading
and installing any future security updates.

No one has reported, as of yet, if uninstalling the Updates and then
reinstalling them with Norton disabled will work as well. I didn’t
really
feel like testing that solution. But, for someone that doesn’t have
Windows
XP (System Restore), this could be a fix to the problem. Don’t know?

I find it rather strange that anyone would trash their Norton program
if
they have never experienced any previous problems with OE. It has
still not
been “confirmed� that Norton is “directly� to blame for this particular
issue.

Personally, I find it very hard to swallow that this issue has any
direct
correlation with the problems associated with Norton and OE based on
many
user reports that none of the workarounds that have been suggested and
used
in the past to solve such compatibly issues with Norton and OE have
worked on
this “particular issue� other than uninstalling Norton all together.
Wow,
that was a mouthful! Also, that there have been numerous posts on
several
forums that this issue occurred right after users installed the 4/11/07
security updates.

I just don’t like what I’ve been reading lately about Windows Updates
and
conflicts with third party software. To be quite honest, I’ve had more
problems with Windows Updates than with Norton, and have found more
professional articles related to security update glitches than problems
with
Norton and OE. By the way, I turned off the email scanning feature
when I
first installed the program.

Happy computing everyone!!!