Hello all,
I've just started having an odd problem with OE news postings on one
machine (this one, my laptop running XP Pro). It's got all the updates and
IE7.

I have subscribed to several newsgroups, and let's say that I open OE, go to
a newsgroup, and it downloads 300 messages - so there are 300 unread
messages. I read one, so there would be 299 unread. I might mark it as
read, or the timer might look after that. Or, from a new check, I read
none at all.

If I then go to another group, and come back, I will find that
*all* messages have been marked as read.

I've just tried moving all the group .dbx files to another folder, so that
they would be re-created and messages would be re-downloaded, but I get
exactly the same result.

This has been happening for a few days now.

I wonder if anyone would know what might be causing this?

Thanks,
Patrick Keenan

"Patrick Keenan" wrote in message
...
Hello all,
I've just started having an odd problem with OE news postings on one
machine (this one, my laptop running XP Pro). It's got all the updates
and
IE7.

I have subscribed to several newsgroups, and let's say that I open OE, go
to
a newsgroup, and it downloads 300 messages - so there are 300 unread
messages. I read one, so there would be 299 unread. I might mark it as
read, or the timer might look after that. Or, from a new check, I read
none at all.

If I then go to another group, and come back, I will find that
*all* messages have been marked as read.

I've just tried moving all the group .dbx files to another folder, so that
they would be re-created and messages would be re-downloaded, but I get
exactly the same result.

This has been happening for a few days now.

I wonder if anyone would know what might be causing this?

Thanks,
Patrick Keenan

... .and apparently, there's a handy checkbox to "mark all messages as read"
when exiting a newsgroup!

Ah well..

Tools | Options | Read. Uncheck: Mark all messages as read when exiting a
newsgroup.

IMHO, I would also uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Patrick Keenan" wrote in message
...
Hello all,
I've just started having an odd problem with OE news postings on one
machine (this one, my laptop running XP Pro). It's got all the updates
and
IE7.

I have subscribed to several newsgroups, and let's say that I open OE, go
to
a newsgroup, and it downloads 300 messages - so there are 300 unread
messages. I read one, so there would be 299 unread. I might mark it as
read, or the timer might look after that. Or, from a new check, I read
none at all.

If I then go to another group, and come back, I will find that
*all* messages have been marked as read.

I've just tried moving all the group .dbx files to another folder, so that
they would be re-created and messages would be re-downloaded, but I get
exactly the same result.

This has been happening for a few days now.

I wonder if anyone would know what might be causing this?

Thanks,
Patrick Keenan

I get the opposite. Win XP/SP2, IE7, OE6 all kept upto date.

Say when I have read all messages or even when I Select All and Mark All
Messages As Read (and they ARE actually marked as read) the Newsgroup name
still remains bold and a number in brackets indicates x number of messages
as UNREAD. This of course is a nuisance as I have no idea of how many new
messages I have to read. Even when I do a Catch Up and the News Group name
is no longer bolded, the same problem recurs when I Synchronize All.

Also why are these x number of messages are not downloaded. It says so in
the bar on the bottom of the OE screen: the current one says "1 message(s),
0 unread, 3 not downloaded". Yet I don't have any filters to stop any
messages being downloaded.

I am thinking this problem may be more to do with my ISP or is it an OE6
problem?
--
choro-nik
========
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Tools | Options | Read. Uncheck: Mark all messages as read when exiting a
newsgroup.

IMHO, I would also uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Patrick Keenan" wrote in message
...
Hello all,
I've just started having an odd problem with OE news postings on one
machine (this one, my laptop running XP Pro). It's got all the updates
and
IE7.

I have subscribed to several newsgroups, and let's say that I open OE, go
to
a newsgroup, and it downloads 300 messages - so there are 300 unread
messages. I read one, so there would be 299 unread. I might mark it
as
read, or the timer might look after that. Or, from a new check, I read
none at all.

If I then go to another group, and come back, I will find that
*all* messages have been marked as read.

I've just tried moving all the group .dbx files to another folder, so
that
they would be re-created and messages would be re-downloaded, but I get
exactly the same result.

This has been happening for a few days now.

I wonder if anyone would know what might be causing this?

Thanks,
Patrick Keenan

Do you have "Get XXX headers at a time." unchecked?
--
Ronald Sommer


"choro-nik" wrote in message
.uk...
:I get the opposite. Win XP/SP2, IE7, OE6 all kept upto date.
:
: Say when I have read all messages or even when I Select All and Mark All
: Messages As Read (and they ARE actually marked as read) the Newsgroup name
: still remains bold and a number in brackets indicates x number of
messages
: as UNREAD. This of course is a nuisance as I have no idea of how many new
: messages I have to read. Even when I do a Catch Up and the News Group name
: is no longer bolded, the same problem recurs when I Synchronize All.
:
: Also why are these x number of messages are not downloaded. It says so in
: the bar on the bottom of the OE screen: the current one says "1
message(s),
: 0 unread, 3 not downloaded". Yet I don't have any filters to stop any
: messages being downloaded.
:
: I am thinking this problem may be more to do with my ISP or is it an OE6
: problem?
: --
: choro-nik
: ========
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: Tools | Options | Read. Uncheck: Mark all messages as read when exiting
a
: newsgroup.
:
: IMHO, I would also uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time.
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "Patrick Keenan" wrote in message
: ...
: Hello all,
: I've just started having an odd problem with OE news postings on one
: machine (this one, my laptop running XP Pro). It's got all the
updates
: and
: IE7.
:
: I have subscribed to several newsgroups, and let's say that I open OE,
go
: to
: a newsgroup, and it downloads 300 messages - so there are 300 unread
: messages. I read one, so there would be 299 unread. I might mark it
: as
: read, or the timer might look after that. Or, from a new check, I
read
: none at all.
:
: If I then go to another group, and come back, I will find that
: *all* messages have been marked as read.
:
: I've just tried moving all the group .dbx files to another folder, so
: that
: they would be re-created and messages would be re-downloaded, but I get
: exactly the same result.
:
: This has been happening for a few days now.
:
: I wonder if anyone would know what might be causing this?
:
: Thanks,
: Patrick Keenan
:
:
:
:
:
:
:

That's immaterial. It still behaves that way whether "Get XXX headers at a
time.." is checked OR unchecked.
--
choro-nik
========

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Do you have "Get XXX headers at a time." unchecked?
--
Ronald Sommer


"choro-nik" wrote in message
.uk...
:I get the opposite. Win XP/SP2, IE7, OE6 all kept upto date.
:
: Say when I have read all messages or even when I Select All and Mark All
: Messages As Read (and they ARE actually marked as read) the Newsgroup
name
: still remains bold and a number in brackets indicates x number of
messages
: as UNREAD. This of course is a nuisance as I have no idea of how many
new
: messages I have to read. Even when I do a Catch Up and the News Group
name
: is no longer bolded, the same problem recurs when I Synchronize All.
:
: Also why are these x number of messages are not downloaded. It says so
in
: the bar on the bottom of the OE screen: the current one says "1
message(s),
: 0 unread, 3 not downloaded". Yet I don't have any filters to stop any
: messages being downloaded.
:
: I am thinking this problem may be more to do with my ISP or is it an OE6
: problem?
: --
: choro-nik
: ========
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: Tools | Options | Read. Uncheck: Mark all messages as read when
exiting
a
: newsgroup.
:
: IMHO, I would also uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time.
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "Patrick Keenan" wrote in message
: ...
: Hello all,
: I've just started having an odd problem with OE news postings on one
: machine (this one, my laptop running XP Pro). It's got all the
updates
: and
: IE7.
:
: I have subscribed to several newsgroups, and let's say that I open
OE,
go
: to
: a newsgroup, and it downloads 300 messages - so there are 300 unread
: messages. I read one, so there would be 299 unread. I might mark
it
: as
: read, or the timer might look after that. Or, from a new check, I
read
: none at all.
:
: If I then go to another group, and come back, I will find that
: *all* messages have been marked as read.
:
: I've just tried moving all the group .dbx files to another folder, so
: that
: they would be re-created and messages would be re-downloaded, but I
get
: exactly the same result.
:
: This has been happening for a few days now.
:
: I wonder if anyone would know what might be causing this?
:
: Thanks,
: Patrick Keenan
:
:
:
:
:
:
:

You did uncheck the option to mark messages read when leaving a newsgroup?

Tools | Accounts | News | Properties | General. Check: Include this account
when checking for messages and don't bother with Syncing.

Did you Reset the newsgroup after unchecking Get XXX headers? (Tools |
Options | Maintenance | Clean Up Now). Select the Group or Server at the top
and then do a Reset followed by a Compact.

If that doesn't do it, unsubscribe, reboot and resubscribe.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"choro-nik" wrote in message
news
That's immaterial. It still behaves that way whether "Get XXX headers at a
time.." is checked OR unchecked.
--
choro-nik
========

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Do you have "Get XXX headers at a time." unchecked?
--
Ronald Sommer


"choro-nik" wrote in message
.uk...
:I get the opposite. Win XP/SP2, IE7, OE6 all kept upto date.
:
: Say when I have read all messages or even when I Select All and Mark
All
: Messages As Read (and they ARE actually marked as read) the Newsgroup
name
: still remains bold and a number in brackets indicates x number of
messages
: as UNREAD. This of course is a nuisance as I have no idea of how many
new
: messages I have to read. Even when I do a Catch Up and the News Group
name
: is no longer bolded, the same problem recurs when I Synchronize All.
:
: Also why are these x number of messages are not downloaded. It says so
in
: the bar on the bottom of the OE screen: the current one says "1
message(s),
: 0 unread, 3 not downloaded". Yet I don't have any filters to stop any
: messages being downloaded.
:
: I am thinking this problem may be more to do with my ISP or is it an
OE6
: problem?
: --
: choro-nik
: ========
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: Tools | Options | Read. Uncheck: Mark all messages as read when
exiting
a
: newsgroup.
:
: IMHO, I would also uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time.
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "Patrick Keenan" wrote in message
: ...
: Hello all,
: I've just started having an odd problem with OE news postings on one
: machine (this one, my laptop running XP Pro). It's got all the
updates
: and
: IE7.
:
: I have subscribed to several newsgroups, and let's say that I open
OE,
go
: to
: a newsgroup, and it downloads 300 messages - so there are 300 unread
: messages. I read one, so there would be 299 unread. I might mark
it
: as
: read, or the timer might look after that. Or, from a new check, I
read
: none at all.
:
: If I then go to another group, and come back, I will find that
: *all* messages have been marked as read.
:
: I've just tried moving all the group .dbx files to another folder,
so
: that
: they would be re-created and messages would be re-downloaded, but I
get
: exactly the same result.
:
: This has been happening for a few days now.
:
: I wonder if anyone would know what might be causing this?
:
: Thanks,
: Patrick Keenan
:
:
:
:
:
:
:

Tried it all. Still no joy.

This time I experimented only with unsubscribing from a couple of NGs and
subsequently resubscribing after a restarting the computer. Next time I will
try unsubscribing from the newsserver and see what happens. But if I am not
wrong I did try even from removing the newsserver account and recreating the
account subsequently and even that didn't help.

I believe it is something to do with my newsserver (blueyonder recently
being rebranded as virgin media) since the takeover but whereas I was hoping
for some improvements after the takeover/merger, nothing seems to be
happening at all. Things are running erratically-- same as Virgin Trains as
anybody living in the UK will gladly testify.

This observation seems to apply to their binary servers whereas the text
only server doesn't seem to have this problem. They are running several
servers. I wish they were running one server and running it properly.

But thank you anyway.
--
choro-nik
========
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
You did uncheck the option to mark messages read when leaving a newsgroup?

Tools | Accounts | News | Properties | General. Check: Include this
account when checking for messages and don't bother with Syncing.

Did you Reset the newsgroup after unchecking Get XXX headers? (Tools |
Options | Maintenance | Clean Up Now). Select the Group or Server at the
top and then do a Reset followed by a Compact.

If that doesn't do it, unsubscribe, reboot and resubscribe.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"choro-nik" wrote in message
news
That's immaterial. It still behaves that way whether "Get XXX headers at
a time.." is checked OR unchecked.
--
choro-nik
========

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Do you have "Get XXX headers at a time." unchecked?
--
Ronald Sommer


"choro-nik" wrote in message
.uk...
:I get the opposite. Win XP/SP2, IE7, OE6 all kept upto date.
:
: Say when I have read all messages or even when I Select All and Mark
All
: Messages As Read (and they ARE actually marked as read) the Newsgroup
name
: still remains bold and a number in brackets indicates x number of
messages
: as UNREAD. This of course is a nuisance as I have no idea of how many
new
: messages I have to read. Even when I do a Catch Up and the News Group
name
: is no longer bolded, the same problem recurs when I Synchronize All.
:
: Also why are these x number of messages are not downloaded. It says so
in
: the bar on the bottom of the OE screen: the current one says "1
message(s),
: 0 unread, 3 not downloaded". Yet I don't have any filters to stop any
: messages being downloaded.
:
: I am thinking this problem may be more to do with my ISP or is it an
OE6
: problem?
: --
: choro-nik
: ========
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: Tools | Options | Read. Uncheck: Mark all messages as read when
exiting
a
: newsgroup.
:
: IMHO, I would also uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time.
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "Patrick Keenan" wrote in message
: ...
: Hello all,
: I've just started having an odd problem with OE news postings on
one
: machine (this one, my laptop running XP Pro). It's got all the
updates
: and
: IE7.
:
: I have subscribed to several newsgroups, and let's say that I open
OE,
go
: to
: a newsgroup, and it downloads 300 messages - so there are 300
unread
: messages. I read one, so there would be 299 unread. I might
mark it
: as
: read, or the timer might look after that. Or, from a new check, I
read
: none at all.
:
: If I then go to another group, and come back, I will find that
: *all* messages have been marked as read.
:
: I've just tried moving all the group .dbx files to another folder,
so
: that
: they would be re-created and messages would be re-downloaded, but I
get
: exactly the same result.
:
: This has been happening for a few days now.
:
: I wonder if anyone would know what might be causing this?
:
: Thanks,
: Patrick Keenan
:
:
:
:
:
:
:

I would have to think at this point it is a Sync problem between your server
and yourself. I can't think of anything else to try.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"choro-nik" wrote in message
.uk...
Tried it all. Still no joy.

This time I experimented only with unsubscribing from a couple of NGs and
subsequently resubscribing after a restarting the computer. Next time I
will try unsubscribing from the newsserver and see what happens. But if I
am not wrong I did try even from removing the newsserver account and
recreating the account subsequently and even that didn't help.

I believe it is something to do with my newsserver (blueyonder recently
being rebranded as virgin media) since the takeover but whereas I was
hoping for some improvements after the takeover/merger, nothing seems to
be happening at all. Things are running erratically-- same as Virgin
Trains as anybody living in the UK will gladly testify.

This observation seems to apply to their binary servers whereas the text
only server doesn't seem to have this problem. They are running several
servers. I wish they were running one server and running it properly.

But thank you anyway.
--
choro-nik
========
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
You did uncheck the option to mark messages read when leaving a
newsgroup?

Tools | Accounts | News | Properties | General. Check: Include this
account when checking for messages and don't bother with Syncing.

Did you Reset the newsgroup after unchecking Get XXX headers? (Tools |
Options | Maintenance | Clean Up Now). Select the Group or Server at the
top and then do a Reset followed by a Compact.

If that doesn't do it, unsubscribe, reboot and resubscribe.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"choro-nik" wrote in message
news
That's immaterial. It still behaves that way whether "Get XXX headers at
a time.." is checked OR unchecked.
--
choro-nik
========

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Do you have "Get XXX headers at a time." unchecked?
--
Ronald Sommer


"choro-nik" wrote in message
.uk...
:I get the opposite. Win XP/SP2, IE7, OE6 all kept upto date.
:
: Say when I have read all messages or even when I Select All and Mark
All
: Messages As Read (and they ARE actually marked as read) the Newsgroup
name
: still remains bold and a number in brackets indicates x number of
messages
: as UNREAD. This of course is a nuisance as I have no idea of how many
new
: messages I have to read. Even when I do a Catch Up and the News Group
name
: is no longer bolded, the same problem recurs when I Synchronize All.
:
: Also why are these x number of messages are not downloaded. It says
so in
: the bar on the bottom of the OE screen: the current one says "1
message(s),
: 0 unread, 3 not downloaded". Yet I don't have any filters to stop any
: messages being downloaded.
:
: I am thinking this problem may be more to do with my ISP or is it an
OE6
: problem?
: --
: choro-nik
: ========
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: Tools | Options | Read. Uncheck: Mark all messages as read when
exiting
a
: newsgroup.
:
: IMHO, I would also uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time.
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "Patrick Keenan" wrote in message
: ...
: Hello all,
: I've just started having an odd problem with OE news postings on
one
: machine (this one, my laptop running XP Pro). It's got all the
updates
: and
: IE7.
:
: I have subscribed to several newsgroups, and let's say that I open
OE,
go
: to
: a newsgroup, and it downloads 300 messages - so there are 300
unread
: messages. I read one, so there would be 299 unread. I might
mark it
: as
: read, or the timer might look after that. Or, from a new check,
I
read
: none at all.
:
: If I then go to another group, and come back, I will find that
: *all* messages have been marked as read.
:
: I've just tried moving all the group .dbx files to another folder,
so
: that
: they would be re-created and messages would be re-downloaded, but
I get
: exactly the same result.
:
: This has been happening for a few days now.
:
: I wonder if anyone would know what might be causing this?
:
: Thanks,
: Patrick Keenan
:
:
:
:
:
:
:

"Patrick Keenan" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
Hello all,
I've just started having an odd problem with OE news postings on one
machine (this one, my laptop running XP Pro). It's got all the updates
and
IE7.

I have subscribed to several newsgroups, and let's say that I open OE, go
to
a newsgroup, and it downloads 300 messages - so there are 300 unread
messages. I read one, so there would be 299 unread. I might mark it as
read, or the timer might look after that. Or, from a new check, I read
none at all.

If I then go to another group, and come back, I will find that
*all* messages have been marked as read.

I've just tried moving all the group .dbx files to another folder, so that
they would be re-created and messages would be re-downloaded, but I get
exactly the same result.

This has been happening for a few days now.

I wonder if anyone would know what might be causing this?

Thanks,
Patrick Keenan