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Old July 4th 07, 08:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bill Ridgeway
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Just one of the various NewsGroups I monitor regularly reports a number of
unread messages which, when I click on the NG to see what's there, is
reduced by the order of 10. This isn't a lot when the reported number of,
say, 20 is reduced to 2 but is a lot when the reported number of 300 is
reduced to just 30.

Does anyone know how this discrepancy arises and why it occurs on only one
NG please?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway


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Old July 4th 07, 10:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Gary Walker
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Don't know exactly, but I've got some suggestions to
try:

.. If not already done, I would suggest that you set the
view for unread messages only. (viewcurrent view
hide read messages.

.. Additionally, depending on your service level, and how
your NG subscriptions are organized/grouped, the
message counts can be reduced based on repetitive
posts in alternate groups. At least this is what occurs
on my system. As example, say you subscribe to
alt.toys.us and also alt.toys.world

If I, as a toy group poster, compose a post and send
it to both groups via x-posting. On your subscription
pane, you'll see 1 message for each group. However,
upon selecting either group for reading, the redundant
message(x-posted) may be detected, and the other
similar group's message count will be reduced to 0.
Usually, this count decrement occurs when you actually
select the group. I guess this is supposed to eliminate
x-posting messages that I always see folks bitching
about?

As I said, that's what happens on this system, that I've
personally witnessed but....

.. This system is fully updated.
.. I load all NG messages via a news server synchronize
rather than individual group selection.
.. I only retrieve message headers, initially.

I'm not one of the guru's present on this group, and I have
no technical article reference for information. Just an obs-
ervation from a user perspective. The reason I say that it
depends on your service level, is that I saw this change
activate a long time ago, during some early OE6 updates.


Thanks.



"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
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Just one of the various NewsGroups I monitor regularly reports a number of
unread messages which, when I click on the NG to see what's there, is
reduced by the order of 10. This isn't a lot when the reported number of,
say, 20 is reduced to 2 but is a lot when the reported number of 300 is
reduced to just 30.

Does anyone know how this discrepancy arises and why it occurs on only one
NG please?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway



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Old July 4th 07, 02:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
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"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
Just one of the various NewsGroups I monitor regularly reports a number of
unread messages which, when I click on the NG to see what's there, is
reduced by the order of 10. This isn't a lot when the reported number of,
say, 20 is reduced to 2 but is a lot when the reported number of 300 is
reduced to just 30.

Does anyone know how this discrepancy arises and why it occurs on only one
NG please?



This news server (and many others) is actually a farm of many servers. Each
message in each newsgroup on the server gets a number. OE calculates the
number not downloaded by subtracting the highest number it has for the
newsgroup from the highest number on the server for that newsgroup, When a
server gets out of synchronization with the others it can have different
message numbers, leading to the discrepancy. OE then calculates the actual
number when it actually downloads the messages and corrects the number of
unread.

I hope I got that clear, but I'm still on my first cup of coffee for the
day.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

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Old July 4th 07, 08:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bill Ridgeway
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Thanks for that Frank.

Regards.

Bill Ridgeway

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
Just one of the various NewsGroups I monitor regularly reports a number
of unread messages which, when I click on the NG to see what's there, is
reduced by the order of 10. This isn't a lot when the reported number
of, say, 20 is reduced to 2 but is a lot when the reported number of 300
is reduced to just 30.

Does anyone know how this discrepancy arises and why it occurs on only
one NG please?



This news server (and many others) is actually a farm of many servers.
Each message in each newsgroup on the server gets a number. OE calculates
the number not downloaded by subtracting the highest number it has for the
newsgroup from the highest number on the server for that newsgroup, When a
server gets out of synchronization with the others it can have different
message numbers, leading to the discrepancy. OE then calculates the
actual number when it actually downloads the messages and corrects the
number of unread.

I hope I got that clear, but I'm still on my first cup of coffee for the
day.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.



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Old July 11th 07, 07:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
bobkalk
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"Bill Ridgeway" schreef in bericht
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Thanks for that Frank.

Regards.

Bill Ridgeway

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
Just one of the various NewsGroups I monitor regularly reports a number
of unread messages which, when I click on the NG to see what's there, is
reduced by the order of 10. This isn't a lot when the reported number
of, say, 20 is reduced to 2 but is a lot when the reported number of 300
is reduced to just 30.

Does anyone know how this discrepancy arises and why it occurs on only
one NG please?



This news server (and many others) is actually a farm of many servers.
Each message in each newsgroup on the server gets a number. OE
calculates the number not downloaded by subtracting the highest number it
has for the newsgroup from the highest number on the server for that
newsgroup, When a server gets out of synchronization with the others it
can have different message numbers, leading to the discrepancy. OE then
calculates the actual number when it actually downloads the messages and
corrects the number of unread.

I hope I got that clear, but I'm still on my first cup of coffee for the
day.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.





 




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