Steve,

Unsure what you're referring to when you say "I don't understand why OETool
didn't have the same result.", but I assume you meant using OETool to open
the message Full Screen.

I'm probably overlooking something simple, but the reason I think it didn't
have the same result is that there is no way (that I can find) to Print if
using OETool to make the message Full Screen.

Regards,

John

-----------------------

From: "Steve Cochran"
Subject: How to Change OE6 Print Defaults
Date: Sunday, 22 July 2007 4:45 AM

Glad you found it useful. I don't understand why OETool didn't have the
same result.

cheers,

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Thanks a million! That is a brilliant 'workaround', and works like a
charm. Exactly what I've been looking for.

Not having the message headers is something I can live without, in most
instances at least.

Regards,

John

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Try saving the message to the desktop and then rename it from eml to mht.
Then it will open in IE and it might print okay. You won't have the
message headers though.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Again, thanks for the suggestions.

I had already tried your first idea, using Paste Special in Word 2003,
but there is only a blank area where the graphic should be; the text, as
expected, appears OK.

Think I'll go with your second option - sounds like the easiest and most
satisfactory. :-)

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Instead of WordPad, try your word processing program. You may have to
use Edit | Paste Special.

OE will always print what you mention. I say this with a smile on my
face, but use 8½ / 14 paper and cut off the header & footer with a
paper cutter.

OE was never meant to be a classy e-mail program.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for your suggestion.

Actually, I had come to the conclusion that what you proposed was the
only way I could print the message without getting the 'Page ? of ?'
header and Date footer, but I was hopeful that someone new of a way to
do it in OE and thus avoid the extra steps involved in using an
additional program.

One major problem with this suggested 'workaround', of course, is that
if there is a required graphic in the message it is not copied when
using Edit, Select All (or the equivalent keyboard shortcuts). Unless
I am missing something, only the text can be copied for use in another
program such as Wordpad.

Your help and suggestions are appreciated,

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I thought you were also referring to the original message info.
Highlight the text you want printer, (best in an open window and not
the Preview Pane and copy/paste into WordPad. The page and date will
not print.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

They are received messages.

The Page ? of ? in the upper right is what I was referring to as a
'header'; the 'footer' is the date, in the lower right.

Together they are what I would like to eliminate, but it seems from
what you have said that it's not possible.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I don't see that on my machine. Are these received messages, or
created messages?

If received, what I posted works for me.

If created, I save it to drafts and then use the Open Message
Fullscreen using this freeware tool. The only thing that prints
besides the text is Page ? of ? in the upper right, and about:blank
and the date at the bottom.

OETool:
www.oehelp.com/OETool/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for the super prompt response.

I can set the margins and print size without difficulty, but would
really like to avoid the "added" header and footer.

By "added" I mean that they're not in the message, but get added
when a message is printed. It's not a printer option, but appears
to be done automatically by OE6. Because the header and footer
aren't visible, highlighting what I want printed and choosing
Selection doesn't help; header and footer are still both added
"automatically".

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
OE uses IE's print engine and there is not much to change besides
the margins and print size.

Every printer I have ever had did allow me to do this.

Highlight only what you want printed, start the printer and
choose Selection.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Could someone please tell me if it's possible to change Outlook
Express 6 print defaults. Specifically, I would like to be able
to print email messages without a header and footer (currently
'page x of y' and 'date' respectively).

If it is possible, some simple instructions would be most
welcome.

I would also like to be able to print without my 'user name'
showing in a bold font on the output, if there is some way of
achieving it.

TIA

Regards,

John

Ctrl+P
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Unsure what you're referring to when you say "I don't understand why
OETool
didn't have the same result.", but I assume you meant using OETool to open
the message Full Screen.

I'm probably overlooking something simple, but the reason I think it
didn't
have the same result is that there is no way (that I can find) to Print if
using OETool to make the message Full Screen.

Regards,

John

-----------------------

From: "Steve Cochran"
Subject: How to Change OE6 Print Defaults
Date: Sunday, 22 July 2007 4:45 AM

Glad you found it useful. I don't understand why OETool didn't have the
same result.

cheers,

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Thanks a million! That is a brilliant 'workaround', and works like a
charm. Exactly what I've been looking for.

Not having the message headers is something I can live without, in most
instances at least.

Regards,

John

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Try saving the message to the desktop and then rename it from eml to
mht.
Then it will open in IE and it might print okay. You won't have the
message headers though.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Again, thanks for the suggestions.

I had already tried your first idea, using Paste Special in Word 2003,
but there is only a blank area where the graphic should be; the text,
as
expected, appears OK.

Think I'll go with your second option - sounds like the easiest and
most
satisfactory. :-)

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Instead of WordPad, try your word processing program. You may have to
use Edit | Paste Special.

OE will always print what you mention. I say this with a smile on my
face, but use 8½ / 14 paper and cut off the header & footer with a
paper cutter.

OE was never meant to be a classy e-mail program.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for your suggestion.

Actually, I had come to the conclusion that what you proposed was the
only way I could print the message without getting the 'Page ? of ?'
header and Date footer, but I was hopeful that someone new of a way
to
do it in OE and thus avoid the extra steps involved in using an
additional program.

One major problem with this suggested 'workaround', of course, is
that
if there is a required graphic in the message it is not copied when
using Edit, Select All (or the equivalent keyboard shortcuts).
Unless
I am missing something, only the text can be copied for use in
another
program such as Wordpad.

Your help and suggestions are appreciated,

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I thought you were also referring to the original message info.
Highlight the text you want printer, (best in an open window and not
the Preview Pane and copy/paste into WordPad. The page and date will
not print.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

They are received messages.

The Page ? of ? in the upper right is what I was referring to as a
'header'; the 'footer' is the date, in the lower right.

Together they are what I would like to eliminate, but it seems from
what you have said that it's not possible.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I don't see that on my machine. Are these received messages, or
created messages?

If received, what I posted works for me.

If created, I save it to drafts and then use the Open Message
Fullscreen using this freeware tool. The only thing that prints
besides the text is Page ? of ? in the upper right, and
about:blank
and the date at the bottom.

OETool:
www.oehelp.com/OETool/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for the super prompt response.

I can set the margins and print size without difficulty, but
would
really like to avoid the "added" header and footer.

By "added" I mean that they're not in the message, but get added
when a message is printed. It's not a printer option, but
appears
to be done automatically by OE6. Because the header and footer
aren't visible, highlighting what I want printed and choosing
Selection doesn't help; header and footer are still both added
"automatically".

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
OE uses IE's print engine and there is not much to change
besides
the margins and print size.

Every printer I have ever had did allow me to do this.

Highlight only what you want printed, start the printer and
choose Selection.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Could someone please tell me if it's possible to change Outlook
Express 6 print defaults. Specifically, I would like to be
able
to print email messages without a header and footer (currently
'page x of y' and 'date' respectively).

If it is possible, some simple instructions would be most
welcome.

I would also like to be able to print without my 'user name'
showing in a bold font on the output, if there is some way of
achieving it.

TIA

Regards,

John

Bruce,

Thanks for that. Like I said - "... overlooking something simple." :-)

Not only that, but it works like a charm, and no more 'Page ? of ?' header
and Date footer.

Thanks to both you and Steve for your help and patience; most appreciated.

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Ctrl+P
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Unsure what you're referring to when you say "I don't understand why
OETool
didn't have the same result.", but I assume you meant using OETool to
open
the message Full Screen.

I'm probably overlooking something simple, but the reason I think it
didn't
have the same result is that there is no way (that I can find) to Print
if
using OETool to make the message Full Screen.

Regards,

John

-----------------------

From: "Steve Cochran"
Subject: How to Change OE6 Print Defaults
Date: Sunday, 22 July 2007 4:45 AM

Glad you found it useful. I don't understand why OETool didn't have the
same result.

cheers,

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Thanks a million! That is a brilliant 'workaround', and works like a
charm. Exactly what I've been looking for.

Not having the message headers is something I can live without, in most
instances at least.

Regards,

John

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Try saving the message to the desktop and then rename it from eml to
mht.
Then it will open in IE and it might print okay. You won't have the
message headers though.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Again, thanks for the suggestions.

I had already tried your first idea, using Paste Special in Word 2003,
but there is only a blank area where the graphic should be; the text,
as
expected, appears OK.

Think I'll go with your second option - sounds like the easiest and
most
satisfactory. :-)

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Instead of WordPad, try your word processing program. You may have to
use Edit | Paste Special.

OE will always print what you mention. I say this with a smile on my
face, but use 8½ / 14 paper and cut off the header & footer with a
paper cutter.

OE was never meant to be a classy e-mail program.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for your suggestion.

Actually, I had come to the conclusion that what you proposed was
the
only way I could print the message without getting the 'Page ? of ?'
header and Date footer, but I was hopeful that someone new of a way
to
do it in OE and thus avoid the extra steps involved in using an
additional program.

One major problem with this suggested 'workaround', of course, is
that
if there is a required graphic in the message it is not copied when
using Edit, Select All (or the equivalent keyboard shortcuts).
Unless
I am missing something, only the text can be copied for use in
another
program such as Wordpad.

Your help and suggestions are appreciated,

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I thought you were also referring to the original message info.
Highlight the text you want printer, (best in an open window and not
the Preview Pane and copy/paste into WordPad. The page and date will
not print.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

They are received messages.

The Page ? of ? in the upper right is what I was referring to as a
'header'; the 'footer' is the date, in the lower right.

Together they are what I would like to eliminate, but it seems
from
what you have said that it's not possible.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I don't see that on my machine. Are these received messages, or
created messages?

If received, what I posted works for me.

If created, I save it to drafts and then use the Open Message
Fullscreen using this freeware tool. The only thing that prints
besides the text is Page ? of ? in the upper right, and
about:blank
and the date at the bottom.

OETool:
www.oehelp.com/OETool/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for the super prompt response.

I can set the margins and print size without difficulty, but
would
really like to avoid the "added" header and footer.

By "added" I mean that they're not in the message, but get added
when a message is printed. It's not a printer option, but
appears
to be done automatically by OE6. Because the header and footer
aren't visible, highlighting what I want printed and choosing
Selection doesn't help; header and footer are still both added
"automatically".

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
OE uses IE's print engine and there is not much to change
besides
the margins and print size.

Every printer I have ever had did allow me to do this.

Highlight only what you want printed, start the printer and
choose Selection.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Could someone please tell me if it's possible to change
Outlook
Express 6 print defaults. Specifically, I would like to be
able
to print email messages without a header and footer (currently
'page x of y' and 'date' respectively).

If it is possible, some simple instructions would be most
welcome.

I would also like to be able to print without my 'user name'
showing in a bold font on the output, if there is some way of
achieving it.

TIA

Regards,

John

You're welcome. You're doing better than me. I still get the page at the top
and the date at the bottom with OETool. That doesn't bother me as long as
all the other crap is gone. Maybe I'm overlooking something simple. grin
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for that. Like I said - "... overlooking something simple." :-)

Not only that, but it works like a charm, and no more 'Page ? of ?' header
and Date footer.

Thanks to both you and Steve for your help and patience; most appreciated.

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Ctrl+P
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Unsure what you're referring to when you say "I don't understand why
OETool
didn't have the same result.", but I assume you meant using OETool to
open
the message Full Screen.

I'm probably overlooking something simple, but the reason I think it
didn't
have the same result is that there is no way (that I can find) to Print
if
using OETool to make the message Full Screen.

Regards,

John

-----------------------

From: "Steve Cochran"
Subject: How to Change OE6 Print Defaults
Date: Sunday, 22 July 2007 4:45 AM

Glad you found it useful. I don't understand why OETool didn't have the
same result.

cheers,

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Thanks a million! That is a brilliant 'workaround', and works like a
charm. Exactly what I've been looking for.

Not having the message headers is something I can live without, in most
instances at least.

Regards,

John

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Try saving the message to the desktop and then rename it from eml to
mht.
Then it will open in IE and it might print okay. You won't have the
message headers though.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Again, thanks for the suggestions.

I had already tried your first idea, using Paste Special in Word
2003,
but there is only a blank area where the graphic should be; the text,
as
expected, appears OK.

Think I'll go with your second option - sounds like the easiest and
most
satisfactory. :-)

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Instead of WordPad, try your word processing program. You may have
to
use Edit | Paste Special.

OE will always print what you mention. I say this with a smile on my
face, but use 8½ / 14 paper and cut off the header & footer with a
paper cutter.

OE was never meant to be a classy e-mail program.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for your suggestion.

Actually, I had come to the conclusion that what you proposed was
the
only way I could print the message without getting the 'Page ? of
?'
header and Date footer, but I was hopeful that someone new of a way
to
do it in OE and thus avoid the extra steps involved in using an
additional program.

One major problem with this suggested 'workaround', of course, is
that
if there is a required graphic in the message it is not copied when
using Edit, Select All (or the equivalent keyboard shortcuts).
Unless
I am missing something, only the text can be copied for use in
another
program such as Wordpad.

Your help and suggestions are appreciated,

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I thought you were also referring to the original message info.
Highlight the text you want printer, (best in an open window and
not
the Preview Pane and copy/paste into WordPad. The page and date
will
not print.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

They are received messages.

The Page ? of ? in the upper right is what I was referring to as
a
'header'; the 'footer' is the date, in the lower right.

Together they are what I would like to eliminate, but it seems
from
what you have said that it's not possible.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I don't see that on my machine. Are these received messages, or
created messages?

If received, what I posted works for me.

If created, I save it to drafts and then use the Open Message
Fullscreen using this freeware tool. The only thing that prints
besides the text is Page ? of ? in the upper right, and
about:blank
and the date at the bottom.

OETool:
www.oehelp.com/OETool/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for the super prompt response.

I can set the margins and print size without difficulty, but
would
really like to avoid the "added" header and footer.

By "added" I mean that they're not in the message, but get
added
when a message is printed. It's not a printer option, but
appears
to be done automatically by OE6. Because the header and footer
aren't visible, highlighting what I want printed and choosing
Selection doesn't help; header and footer are still both added
"automatically".

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
OE uses IE's print engine and there is not much to change
besides
the margins and print size.

Every printer I have ever had did allow me to do this.

Highlight only what you want printed, start the printer and
choose Selection.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Could someone please tell me if it's possible to change
Outlook
Express 6 print defaults. Specifically, I would like to be
able
to print email messages without a header and footer
(currently
'page x of y' and 'date' respectively).

If it is possible, some simple instructions would be most
welcome.

I would also like to be able to print without my 'user name'
showing in a bold font on the output, if there is some way of
achieving it.

TIA

Regards,

John

Bruce,

Maybe you're overlooking something, but maybe it's not so simple (at least
until you know how, like so many things).

I'll let you in on the secret. This is what I've found, at least, after all
the help from you and Steve. If you want to print an email without the page
at the top and date at the bottom, and without your name in a bold font, and
with the message header, try the following:

1. Forward the email message to yourself.

2. Use OETool to open it Full Screen.

3. Use your Ctrl+P trick.

Voila - you should get printed output as desired. Works for me, anyway.

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
You're welcome. You're doing better than me. I still get the page at the
top and the date at the bottom with OETool. That doesn't bother me as long
as all the other crap is gone. Maybe I'm overlooking something simple.
grin
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for that. Like I said - "... overlooking something simple." :-)

Not only that, but it works like a charm, and no more 'Page ? of ?'
header and Date footer.

Thanks to both you and Steve for your help and patience; most
appreciated.

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Ctrl+P
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Unsure what you're referring to when you say "I don't understand why
OETool
didn't have the same result.", but I assume you meant using OETool to
open
the message Full Screen.

I'm probably overlooking something simple, but the reason I think it
didn't
have the same result is that there is no way (that I can find) to Print
if
using OETool to make the message Full Screen.

Regards,

John

-----------------------

From: "Steve Cochran"
Subject: How to Change OE6 Print Defaults
Date: Sunday, 22 July 2007 4:45 AM

Glad you found it useful. I don't understand why OETool didn't have
the
same result.

cheers,

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Thanks a million! That is a brilliant 'workaround', and works like a
charm. Exactly what I've been looking for.

Not having the message headers is something I can live without, in
most
instances at least.

Regards,

John

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Try saving the message to the desktop and then rename it from eml to
mht.
Then it will open in IE and it might print okay. You won't have the
message headers though.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Again, thanks for the suggestions.

I had already tried your first idea, using Paste Special in Word
2003,
but there is only a blank area where the graphic should be; the
text,
as
expected, appears OK.

Think I'll go with your second option - sounds like the easiest and
most
satisfactory. :-)

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Instead of WordPad, try your word processing program. You may have
to
use Edit | Paste Special.

OE will always print what you mention. I say this with a smile on
my
face, but use 8½ / 14 paper and cut off the header & footer with a
paper cutter.

OE was never meant to be a classy e-mail program.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for your suggestion.

Actually, I had come to the conclusion that what you proposed was
the
only way I could print the message without getting the 'Page ? of
?'
header and Date footer, but I was hopeful that someone new of a
way
to
do it in OE and thus avoid the extra steps involved in using an
additional program.

One major problem with this suggested 'workaround', of course, is
that
if there is a required graphic in the message it is not copied
when
using Edit, Select All (or the equivalent keyboard shortcuts).
Unless
I am missing something, only the text can be copied for use in
another
program such as Wordpad.

Your help and suggestions are appreciated,

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I thought you were also referring to the original message info.
Highlight the text you want printer, (best in an open window and
not
the Preview Pane and copy/paste into WordPad. The page and date
will
not print.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

They are received messages.

The Page ? of ? in the upper right is what I was referring to as
a
'header'; the 'footer' is the date, in the lower right.

Together they are what I would like to eliminate, but it seems
from
what you have said that it's not possible.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I don't see that on my machine. Are these received messages, or
created messages?

If received, what I posted works for me.

If created, I save it to drafts and then use the Open Message
Fullscreen using this freeware tool. The only thing that prints
besides the text is Page ? of ? in the upper right, and
about:blank
and the date at the bottom.

OETool:
www.oehelp.com/OETool/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for the super prompt response.

I can set the margins and print size without difficulty, but
would
really like to avoid the "added" header and footer.

By "added" I mean that they're not in the message, but get
added
when a message is printed. It's not a printer option, but
appears
to be done automatically by OE6. Because the header and
footer
aren't visible, highlighting what I want printed and choosing
Selection doesn't help; header and footer are still both added
"automatically".

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
OE uses IE's print engine and there is not much to change
besides
the margins and print size.

Every printer I have ever had did allow me to do this.

Highlight only what you want printed, start the printer and
choose Selection.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Could someone please tell me if it's possible to change
Outlook
Express 6 print defaults. Specifically, I would like to be
able
to print email messages without a header and footer
(currently
'page x of y' and 'date' respectively).

If it is possible, some simple instructions would be most
welcome.

I would also like to be able to print without my 'user name'
showing in a bold font on the output, if there is some way
of
achieving it.

TIA

Regards,

John

Thanks for the feedback, but that doesn't work for me. Forward to myself.
Open Full Screen. All I see is what I want to print, but I still get the
Page of Page top right, the date bottom right, and about:blank in the bottom
left.

*Maybe* different printers react differently? {Epson CX6000 3-in-One} here.
Never know enough not to be able to learn more.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Maybe you're overlooking something, but maybe it's not so simple (at least
until you know how, like so many things).

I'll let you in on the secret. This is what I've found, at least, after
all the help from you and Steve. If you want to print an email without
the page at the top and date at the bottom, and without your name in a
bold font, and with the message header, try the following:

1. Forward the email message to yourself.

2. Use OETool to open it Full Screen.

3. Use your Ctrl+P trick.

Voila - you should get printed output as desired. Works for me, anyway.

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
You're welcome. You're doing better than me. I still get the page at the
top and the date at the bottom with OETool. That doesn't bother me as
long as all the other crap is gone. Maybe I'm overlooking something
simple. grin
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for that. Like I said - "... overlooking something simple." :-)

Not only that, but it works like a charm, and no more 'Page ? of ?'
header and Date footer.

Thanks to both you and Steve for your help and patience; most
appreciated.

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Ctrl+P
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Unsure what you're referring to when you say "I don't understand why
OETool
didn't have the same result.", but I assume you meant using OETool to
open
the message Full Screen.

I'm probably overlooking something simple, but the reason I think it
didn't
have the same result is that there is no way (that I can find) to
Print
if
using OETool to make the message Full Screen.

Regards,

John

-----------------------

From: "Steve Cochran"
Subject: How to Change OE6 Print Defaults
Date: Sunday, 22 July 2007 4:45 AM

Glad you found it useful. I don't understand why OETool didn't have
the
same result.

cheers,

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Thanks a million! That is a brilliant 'workaround', and works like a
charm. Exactly what I've been looking for.

Not having the message headers is something I can live without, in
most
instances at least.

Regards,

John

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Try saving the message to the desktop and then rename it from eml to
mht.
Then it will open in IE and it might print okay. You won't have
the
message headers though.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Again, thanks for the suggestions.

I had already tried your first idea, using Paste Special in Word
2003,
but there is only a blank area where the graphic should be; the
text,
as
expected, appears OK.

Think I'll go with your second option - sounds like the easiest and
most
satisfactory. :-)

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Instead of WordPad, try your word processing program. You may have
to
use Edit | Paste Special.

OE will always print what you mention. I say this with a smile on
my
face, but use 8½ / 14 paper and cut off the header & footer with a
paper cutter.

OE was never meant to be a classy e-mail program.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for your suggestion.

Actually, I had come to the conclusion that what you proposed was
the
only way I could print the message without getting the 'Page ? of
?'
header and Date footer, but I was hopeful that someone new of a
way
to
do it in OE and thus avoid the extra steps involved in using an
additional program.

One major problem with this suggested 'workaround', of course, is
that
if there is a required graphic in the message it is not copied
when
using Edit, Select All (or the equivalent keyboard shortcuts).
Unless
I am missing something, only the text can be copied for use in
another
program such as Wordpad.

Your help and suggestions are appreciated,

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I thought you were also referring to the original message info.
Highlight the text you want printer, (best in an open window and
not
the Preview Pane and copy/paste into WordPad. The page and date
will
not print.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

They are received messages.

The Page ? of ? in the upper right is what I was referring to
as a
'header'; the 'footer' is the date, in the lower right.

Together they are what I would like to eliminate, but it seems
from
what you have said that it's not possible.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I don't see that on my machine. Are these received messages, or
created messages?

If received, what I posted works for me.

If created, I save it to drafts and then use the Open Message
Fullscreen using this freeware tool. The only thing that
prints
besides the text is Page ? of ? in the upper right, and
about:blank
and the date at the bottom.

OETool:
www.oehelp.com/OETool/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for the super prompt response.

I can set the margins and print size without difficulty, but
would
really like to avoid the "added" header and footer.

By "added" I mean that they're not in the message, but get
added
when a message is printed. It's not a printer option, but
appears
to be done automatically by OE6. Because the header and
footer
aren't visible, highlighting what I want printed and choosing
Selection doesn't help; header and footer are still both
added
"automatically".

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
OE uses IE's print engine and there is not much to change
besides
the margins and print size.

Every printer I have ever had did allow me to do this.

Highlight only what you want printed, start the printer and
choose Selection.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Could someone please tell me if it's possible to change
Outlook
Express 6 print defaults. Specifically, I would like to be
able
to print email messages without a header and footer
(currently
'page x of y' and 'date' respectively).

If it is possible, some simple instructions would be most
welcome.

I would also like to be able to print without my 'user
name'
showing in a bold font on the output, if there is some way
of
achieving it.

TIA

Regards,

John

I had thought you were doing that already. Glad you got it working.

OETool has been characterized as a "hack", but its one of my favorite
programs.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for that. Like I said - "... overlooking something simple." :-)

Not only that, but it works like a charm, and no more 'Page ? of ?' header
and Date footer.

Thanks to both you and Steve for your help and patience; most appreciated.

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Ctrl+P
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Unsure what you're referring to when you say "I don't understand why
OETool
didn't have the same result.", but I assume you meant using OETool to
open
the message Full Screen.

I'm probably overlooking something simple, but the reason I think it
didn't
have the same result is that there is no way (that I can find) to Print
if
using OETool to make the message Full Screen.

Regards,

John

-----------------------

From: "Steve Cochran"
Subject: How to Change OE6 Print Defaults
Date: Sunday, 22 July 2007 4:45 AM

Glad you found it useful. I don't understand why OETool didn't have the
same result.

cheers,

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Thanks a million! That is a brilliant 'workaround', and works like a
charm. Exactly what I've been looking for.

Not having the message headers is something I can live without, in most
instances at least.

Regards,

John

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Try saving the message to the desktop and then rename it from eml to
mht.
Then it will open in IE and it might print okay. You won't have the
message headers though.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Again, thanks for the suggestions.

I had already tried your first idea, using Paste Special in Word
2003,
but there is only a blank area where the graphic should be; the text,
as
expected, appears OK.

Think I'll go with your second option - sounds like the easiest and
most
satisfactory. :-)

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Instead of WordPad, try your word processing program. You may have
to
use Edit | Paste Special.

OE will always print what you mention. I say this with a smile on my
face, but use 8½ / 14 paper and cut off the header & footer with a
paper cutter.

OE was never meant to be a classy e-mail program.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for your suggestion.

Actually, I had come to the conclusion that what you proposed was
the
only way I could print the message without getting the 'Page ? of
?'
header and Date footer, but I was hopeful that someone new of a way
to
do it in OE and thus avoid the extra steps involved in using an
additional program.

One major problem with this suggested 'workaround', of course, is
that
if there is a required graphic in the message it is not copied when
using Edit, Select All (or the equivalent keyboard shortcuts).
Unless
I am missing something, only the text can be copied for use in
another
program such as Wordpad.

Your help and suggestions are appreciated,

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I thought you were also referring to the original message info.
Highlight the text you want printer, (best in an open window and
not
the Preview Pane and copy/paste into WordPad. The page and date
will
not print.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

They are received messages.

The Page ? of ? in the upper right is what I was referring to as
a
'header'; the 'footer' is the date, in the lower right.

Together they are what I would like to eliminate, but it seems
from
what you have said that it's not possible.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I don't see that on my machine. Are these received messages, or
created messages?

If received, what I posted works for me.

If created, I save it to drafts and then use the Open Message
Fullscreen using this freeware tool. The only thing that prints
besides the text is Page ? of ? in the upper right, and
about:blank
and the date at the bottom.

OETool:
www.oehelp.com/OETool/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for the super prompt response.

I can set the margins and print size without difficulty, but
would
really like to avoid the "added" header and footer.

By "added" I mean that they're not in the message, but get
added
when a message is printed. It's not a printer option, but
appears
to be done automatically by OE6. Because the header and footer
aren't visible, highlighting what I want printed and choosing
Selection doesn't help; header and footer are still both added
"automatically".

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
OE uses IE's print engine and there is not much to change
besides
the margins and print size.

Every printer I have ever had did allow me to do this.

Highlight only what you want printed, start the printer and
choose Selection.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Could someone please tell me if it's possible to change
Outlook
Express 6 print defaults. Specifically, I would like to be
able
to print email messages without a header and footer
(currently
'page x of y' and 'date' respectively).

If it is possible, some simple instructions would be most
welcome.

I would also like to be able to print without my 'user name'
showing in a bold font on the output, if there is some way of
achieving it.

TIA

Regards,

John

Steve,

One more question on this issue.

In OE the message appears in what I assume is the Arial font, and when
printed "normally" it prints in Arial.

However, if I use OETool to open Full Screen, then print (using Ctrl+P,
naturally grin), the font appears to be Times Roman (certainly not Arial,
anyway).

Is this normal, or what you experience/would expect?

Regards,

John

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
I had thought you were doing that already. Glad you got it working.

OETool has been characterized as a "hack", but its one of my favorite
programs.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for that. Like I said - "... overlooking something simple." :-)

Not only that, but it works like a charm, and no more 'Page ? of ?'
header and Date footer.

Thanks to both you and Steve for your help and patience; most
appreciated.

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Ctrl+P
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Unsure what you're referring to when you say "I don't understand why
OETool
didn't have the same result.", but I assume you meant using OETool to
open
the message Full Screen.

I'm probably overlooking something simple, but the reason I think it
didn't
have the same result is that there is no way (that I can find) to Print
if
using OETool to make the message Full Screen.

Regards,

John

-----------------------

From: "Steve Cochran"
Subject: How to Change OE6 Print Defaults
Date: Sunday, 22 July 2007 4:45 AM

Glad you found it useful. I don't understand why OETool didn't have
the
same result.

cheers,

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Thanks a million! That is a brilliant 'workaround', and works like a
charm. Exactly what I've been looking for.

Not having the message headers is something I can live without, in
most
instances at least.

Regards,

John

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Try saving the message to the desktop and then rename it from eml to
mht.
Then it will open in IE and it might print okay. You won't have the
message headers though.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Again, thanks for the suggestions.

I had already tried your first idea, using Paste Special in Word
2003,
but there is only a blank area where the graphic should be; the
text,
as
expected, appears OK.

Think I'll go with your second option - sounds like the easiest and
most
satisfactory. :-)

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Instead of WordPad, try your word processing program. You may have
to
use Edit | Paste Special.

OE will always print what you mention. I say this with a smile on
my
face, but use 8½ / 14 paper and cut off the header & footer with a
paper cutter.

OE was never meant to be a classy e-mail program.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for your suggestion.

Actually, I had come to the conclusion that what you proposed was
the
only way I could print the message without getting the 'Page ? of
?'
header and Date footer, but I was hopeful that someone new of a
way
to
do it in OE and thus avoid the extra steps involved in using an
additional program.

One major problem with this suggested 'workaround', of course, is
that
if there is a required graphic in the message it is not copied
when
using Edit, Select All (or the equivalent keyboard shortcuts).
Unless
I am missing something, only the text can be copied for use in
another
program such as Wordpad.

Your help and suggestions are appreciated,

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I thought you were also referring to the original message info.
Highlight the text you want printer, (best in an open window and
not
the Preview Pane and copy/paste into WordPad. The page and date
will
not print.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

They are received messages.

The Page ? of ? in the upper right is what I was referring to as
a
'header'; the 'footer' is the date, in the lower right.

Together they are what I would like to eliminate, but it seems
from
what you have said that it's not possible.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I don't see that on my machine. Are these received messages, or
created messages?

If received, what I posted works for me.

If created, I save it to drafts and then use the Open Message
Fullscreen using this freeware tool. The only thing that prints
besides the text is Page ? of ? in the upper right, and
about:blank
and the date at the bottom.

OETool:
www.oehelp.com/OETool/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for the super prompt response.

I can set the margins and print size without difficulty, but
would
really like to avoid the "added" header and footer.

By "added" I mean that they're not in the message, but get
added
when a message is printed. It's not a printer option, but
appears
to be done automatically by OE6. Because the header and
footer
aren't visible, highlighting what I want printed and choosing
Selection doesn't help; header and footer are still both added
"automatically".

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
OE uses IE's print engine and there is not much to change
besides
the margins and print size.

Every printer I have ever had did allow me to do this.

Highlight only what you want printed, start the printer and
choose Selection.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Could someone please tell me if it's possible to change
Outlook
Express 6 print defaults. Specifically, I would like to be
able
to print email messages without a header and footer
(currently
'page x of y' and 'date' respectively).

If it is possible, some simple instructions would be most
welcome.

I would also like to be able to print without my 'user name'
showing in a bold font on the output, if there is some way
of
achieving it.

TIA

Regards,

John

Hi John,

It might depend upon your default font for IE under Tools | Options |
General | Fonts.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

One more question on this issue.

In OE the message appears in what I assume is the Arial font, and when
printed "normally" it prints in Arial.

However, if I use OETool to open Full Screen, then print (using Ctrl+P,
naturally grin), the font appears to be Times Roman (certainly not
Arial, anyway).

Is this normal, or what you experience/would expect?

Regards,

John

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
I had thought you were doing that already. Glad you got it working.

OETool has been characterized as a "hack", but its one of my favorite
programs.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for that. Like I said - "... overlooking something simple." :-)

Not only that, but it works like a charm, and no more 'Page ? of ?'
header and Date footer.

Thanks to both you and Steve for your help and patience; most
appreciated.

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Ctrl+P
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Unsure what you're referring to when you say "I don't understand why
OETool
didn't have the same result.", but I assume you meant using OETool to
open
the message Full Screen.

I'm probably overlooking something simple, but the reason I think it
didn't
have the same result is that there is no way (that I can find) to
Print
if
using OETool to make the message Full Screen.

Regards,

John

-----------------------

From: "Steve Cochran"
Subject: How to Change OE6 Print Defaults
Date: Sunday, 22 July 2007 4:45 AM

Glad you found it useful. I don't understand why OETool didn't have
the
same result.

cheers,

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Thanks a million! That is a brilliant 'workaround', and works like a
charm. Exactly what I've been looking for.

Not having the message headers is something I can live without, in
most
instances at least.

Regards,

John

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Try saving the message to the desktop and then rename it from eml to
mht.
Then it will open in IE and it might print okay. You won't have
the
message headers though.

steve

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Again, thanks for the suggestions.

I had already tried your first idea, using Paste Special in Word
2003,
but there is only a blank area where the graphic should be; the
text,
as
expected, appears OK.

Think I'll go with your second option - sounds like the easiest and
most
satisfactory. :-)

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Instead of WordPad, try your word processing program. You may have
to
use Edit | Paste Special.

OE will always print what you mention. I say this with a smile on
my
face, but use 8½ / 14 paper and cut off the header & footer with a
paper cutter.

OE was never meant to be a classy e-mail program.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for your suggestion.

Actually, I had come to the conclusion that what you proposed was
the
only way I could print the message without getting the 'Page ? of
?'
header and Date footer, but I was hopeful that someone new of a
way
to
do it in OE and thus avoid the extra steps involved in using an
additional program.

One major problem with this suggested 'workaround', of course, is
that
if there is a required graphic in the message it is not copied
when
using Edit, Select All (or the equivalent keyboard shortcuts).
Unless
I am missing something, only the text can be copied for use in
another
program such as Wordpad.

Your help and suggestions are appreciated,

Regards,

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I thought you were also referring to the original message info.
Highlight the text you want printer, (best in an open window and
not
the Preview Pane and copy/paste into WordPad. The page and date
will
not print.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

They are received messages.

The Page ? of ? in the upper right is what I was referring to
as a
'header'; the 'footer' is the date, in the lower right.

Together they are what I would like to eliminate, but it seems
from
what you have said that it's not possible.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I don't see that on my machine. Are these received messages, or
created messages?

If received, what I posted works for me.

If created, I save it to drafts and then use the Open Message
Fullscreen using this freeware tool. The only thing that
prints
besides the text is Page ? of ? in the upper right, and
about:blank
and the date at the bottom.

OETool:
www.oehelp.com/OETool/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Bruce,

Thanks for the super prompt response.

I can set the margins and print size without difficulty, but
would
really like to avoid the "added" header and footer.

By "added" I mean that they're not in the message, but get
added
when a message is printed. It's not a printer option, but
appears
to be done automatically by OE6. Because the header and
footer
aren't visible, highlighting what I want printed and choosing
Selection doesn't help; header and footer are still both
added
"automatically".

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.

John

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
OE uses IE's print engine and there is not much to change
besides
the margins and print size.

Every printer I have ever had did allow me to do this.

Highlight only what you want printed, start the printer and
choose Selection.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"John Taylor" wrote in message
...
Could someone please tell me if it's possible to change
Outlook
Express 6 print defaults. Specifically, I would like to be
able
to print email messages without a header and footer
(currently
'page x of y' and 'date' respectively).

If it is possible, some simple instructions would be most
welcome.

I would also like to be able to print without my 'user
name'
showing in a bold font on the output, if there is some way
of
achieving it.

TIA

Regards,

John