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Old July 30th 07, 04:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
No One
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Posts: 15
Default Two problems

Sorry if I was imprecise. The email files are .dbx files. The newsgroup
files have no numbers in parenthesis. I assume that the number in
parenthesis corresponds to the folders I am maintaining past years in.
Apparently, Inbox (2).dbx does not correspond to my second year stored,
however. Importing number for year never matches up.

Anyway, have now created an identity, imported the mail account settings,
and, after paring down the Main Identity to only this year and last year's
messages, imported the messages and appear to have it working correctly. I
really, really wish WE would let me cut and paste directory listings, (or
even print them so I could manipulate them), so I could show you the
directory listings.

You mentioned a 100MB limit on the .dbx file sizes. Last year's is 435MB.
When I start importing other years I get the same problem. So is there some
limit I am running afoul of now that hasn't existed before?

Thanks!
Bill





"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
I hope I have misread your post.
Do you have Inbox(1), Inbox(2), Inbox(3), ..........?
Or do you have inbox(1).dbx, inbox(2).dbx, inbox(3).dbx..........?

Email dbx files with parenthesis and a number are an indication that the
original inbox.dbx has become corrupted.
Newgroup dbx files with parenthesis and a number can be from corruption or
having the same news account on different servers.

Corrupt dbx files will not import.
If in the new Identity, you are getting folders with a parenthesis and a
number, then you are getting corrupted folders.
--
Ronald Sommer

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
: OK, I've created several identities in various tries and her's what
happens.
:
: First, to answer Ronald's question, yes they were compacted, and in the
: usual 100 runs. The sizes of the past year files were all much greater
than
: 100MB, but that has not been a problem until recently, and has worked
for
8
: years now. These folders have been compacted and re-compacted at the
100
: run interval any number of times now since it became forced. Prior to
that
: I never compacted them.
:
: On creating a new identity and importing the account settings for mail
and
: newsgroups from the Main Identity all appears to be fine. Messages
appear
: promptly. When I begin importing messages, though, the hang-time
: re-appears. Also, when importing, say, Archive/Past Years/2002/Inbox
from
: the Main Identity I may get 2005 instead. The store directory has
: Inbox.dbx, Inbox (1).dbx, Inbox (2).dbx and so on through Inbox (9).dbx.
: Ditto for Sent Items. There are folders for each of the years
: 1999-2006.dbx, and so on. Apparently Inbox (3).dbx in Main Identity
does
: not correspond to Inbox (3) in the new Identity. Deleting the past
years
: altogether does not resolve the issue. Deleteing all but one message
from
: each year also did not resolve it.
:
: I'd have to guess there must be something in the message folders
creating
: the problem since until I start importing the problem doesn't exist.
: However, the problem re-appears no matter what folder I import. This
may
: mean all folders became corrupted in compacting, or something else
: altogether is causing it through the import routine.
:
: I've spent several hours now trying to rebuild identities and various
: imports. The ONLY way so far to avoid the problem is to start a new
: identity and import NO messages, thus abandoning the archives I been
keeping
: for 8 years. I repeat, there never was a problem before the compacting
: became mandatory after 100 runs.
:
: So I'm still stuck. I hate to lose 8 years of messages, or even THIS
years
: messages if I let the 8 go. What next?
:
: THANKS for comtinuing to look at this,
: Bill
:
:
:
:
:
:
: "Ron Sommer" wrote in message
: ...
: After you move messages to other folders, do you compact the folders?
: How often do you compact the folders?
: --
: Ronald Sommer
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: ...
: : .dbx folders are present. What I do is move the messages into an
: archive
: : folder. The messages are there with no problem. The problem I'm
having
: : with OE6 is that when I first start it up, it receives messages from
the
: : email accounts that I have, both POP3 and hotmail. When it goes to
: display
: : the FIRST message in the reading pane the system does nothing for
about
: 30
: : seconds. There is no network activity and only sporadic hard drive
: : activity. It's like the system has to think about something before
it
: : displays that first message that it just received. Once the first
: message
: : is displayed, all other messages appear in the reading pane at
proper
: : speeds.
: :
: : Thanks again,
: : Bill
: :
: :
: :
: : "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: : ...
: : I'm not sure if I am following you with the archiving. Do you have
dbx
: : files for folders that do not exist in OE's folder tree? Were they
: lost
: : after you compacted? Or did you do something?
: : --
: : Bruce Hagen
: : MS-MVP Outlook Express
: : Imperial Beach, CA
: :
: : "No One" wrote in message
: : . ..
: : I have cleaned up the temp file in IE 7 and restored my
right-click
: : options. Thank you.
: :
: : I have a huge archive of old mail dating back to 1999. Each year
is
: : archived in a separate folder, named archive/past
years/2006/inbox
: for
: : example. In addition, in the archive folder I have an inbox
folder
: for
: : the current year that I move messages into regularly from the
: everyday
: : inbox. Ditto for sent messages. So the daily inbox and sent
messages
: : folders remain small.
: :
: : This problem began after a compacting. I have copies of the
folders
: on
: : another computer, so I tried deleting all but one message from
all
: the
: : past years with no help. Up til this problem started my archive
: method
: : has been working great for 8 years. Any other ideas? Is there a
way
: to
: : have OR rebuild the indexes and so on if I copy the backup copied
of
: : inbox(1), inbox(2) and so on back into my store directory?
: :
: : Thanks again,
: : Bill
: :
: :
: : "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Problem #2:
: :
: : For IE6:
: :
: : Clear the Temporary Internet Files: In IE | Tools | Internet
Options
: |
: : Delete Files button. And check the box to Delete Offline
content.
: :
: : For IE7:
: :
: : Tools | Internet Options | General Tab | Browsing History |
Delete
: : Temporary Internet Files.
: :
: : Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
: : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978
: :
: : Problem #1. May just need some tidying up.
: :
: : General precautions for Outlook Express:
: :
: : Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
: become
: : corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail
and
: move
: : your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep
user
: : created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
: : feasible.
: :
: : After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders
manually
: while
: : working *offline* and do it often.
: :
: : Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders
: are
: : open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online
in
: the
: : Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
: anything
: : until the compacting is completed.
: :
: : Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a
: redundant
: : layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
: problems
: : such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date
A/V
: : program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more,
see:
: : http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
: :
: : In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
: background
: : and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
: :
: : And backup often.
: :
: : Backup & Resto
: : http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
: :
: : This is a great two click program:
: :
: : Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
: : http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: : --
: : Bruce Hagen
: : MS-MVP Outlook Express
: : Imperial Beach, CA
: :
: : "No One" wrote in message
: : . ..
: : Hi everyone ...
: :
: : I have two problems with OE6 on Windows XP SP2.
: :
: : For some reason, it now takes about 30 seconds to display the
first
: : message. The messages download fine, but when it gets ready to
: display
: : it the system appears to just hang for almost 30 seconds, with
no
: : network activity. Once it's displayed that first message,
other
: : messages appear quickly as they should.
: :
: : Second problem is right-click to "Save As ..." I no longer get
any
: : options except to save it as "untitled.bmp", which I can
rename,
: but
: : I'm trying to save .jpg images. If I click on the paperclip
and
: select
: : Save Attachments it presents me with the correct filename and
: extension
: : to save it to. I want to restore my right-click ability to
save
it
: as
: : named and as type.
: :
: : Thanks for any guidance here.
: :
: : Bill Stewart
: : Cape Coral, FL
: :
: :
: :
: : --
: :
: : ====================
: : JUST IN FROM MEXICO:
: :
: : President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico
will
: not
: : participate in the next Summer Olympics. He said that, "Anyone
who
: can
: : run, jump, or swim has already left the country."
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
:
:
:



  #2  
Old July 30th 07, 05:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bruce Hagen
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10,210
Default Two problems

The number in parenthesis means it is a dbx file that was created due to
some corruption in a previous one. If you hover the pointer over the file,
you can see the date it was modified.

If you have more than one Inbox, the one with the latest number should be
the one in use.

Another thing you can do for archiving is to create yet another identity and
just import the active folders. That identity should work smoothly. Keep
this identity just for the saved folders for years past. Since you won't be
getting new messages there, being fast is moot.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
news
Sorry if I was imprecise. The email files are .dbx files. The newsgroup
files have no numbers in parenthesis. I assume that the number in
parenthesis corresponds to the folders I am maintaining past years in.
Apparently, Inbox (2).dbx does not correspond to my second year stored,
however. Importing number for year never matches up.

Anyway, have now created an identity, imported the mail account settings,
and, after paring down the Main Identity to only this year and last year's
messages, imported the messages and appear to have it working correctly.
I really, really wish WE would let me cut and paste directory listings,
(or even print them so I could manipulate them), so I could show you the
directory listings.

You mentioned a 100MB limit on the .dbx file sizes. Last year's is 435MB.
When I start importing other years I get the same problem. So is there
some limit I am running afoul of now that hasn't existed before?

Thanks!
Bill





"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
I hope I have misread your post.
Do you have Inbox(1), Inbox(2), Inbox(3), ..........?
Or do you have inbox(1).dbx, inbox(2).dbx, inbox(3).dbx..........?

Email dbx files with parenthesis and a number are an indication that the
original inbox.dbx has become corrupted.
Newgroup dbx files with parenthesis and a number can be from corruption
or
having the same news account on different servers.

Corrupt dbx files will not import.
If in the new Identity, you are getting folders with a parenthesis and a
number, then you are getting corrupted folders.
--
Ronald Sommer

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
: OK, I've created several identities in various tries and her's what
happens.
:
: First, to answer Ronald's question, yes they were compacted, and in the
: usual 100 runs. The sizes of the past year files were all much greater
than
: 100MB, but that has not been a problem until recently, and has worked
for
8
: years now. These folders have been compacted and re-compacted at the
100
: run interval any number of times now since it became forced. Prior to
that
: I never compacted them.
:
: On creating a new identity and importing the account settings for mail
and
: newsgroups from the Main Identity all appears to be fine. Messages
appear
: promptly. When I begin importing messages, though, the hang-time
: re-appears. Also, when importing, say, Archive/Past Years/2002/Inbox
from
: the Main Identity I may get 2005 instead. The store directory has
: Inbox.dbx, Inbox (1).dbx, Inbox (2).dbx and so on through Inbox
(9).dbx.
: Ditto for Sent Items. There are folders for each of the years
: 1999-2006.dbx, and so on. Apparently Inbox (3).dbx in Main Identity
does
: not correspond to Inbox (3) in the new Identity. Deleting the past
years
: altogether does not resolve the issue. Deleteing all but one message
from
: each year also did not resolve it.
:
: I'd have to guess there must be something in the message folders
creating
: the problem since until I start importing the problem doesn't exist.
: However, the problem re-appears no matter what folder I import. This
may
: mean all folders became corrupted in compacting, or something else
: altogether is causing it through the import routine.
:
: I've spent several hours now trying to rebuild identities and various
: imports. The ONLY way so far to avoid the problem is to start a new
: identity and import NO messages, thus abandoning the archives I been
keeping
: for 8 years. I repeat, there never was a problem before the compacting
: became mandatory after 100 runs.
:
: So I'm still stuck. I hate to lose 8 years of messages, or even THIS
years
: messages if I let the 8 go. What next?
:
: THANKS for comtinuing to look at this,
: Bill
:
:
:
:
:
:
: "Ron Sommer" wrote in message
: ...
: After you move messages to other folders, do you compact the folders?
: How often do you compact the folders?
: --
: Ronald Sommer
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: ...
: : .dbx folders are present. What I do is move the messages into an
: archive
: : folder. The messages are there with no problem. The problem I'm
having
: : with OE6 is that when I first start it up, it receives messages
from
the
: : email accounts that I have, both POP3 and hotmail. When it goes to
: display
: : the FIRST message in the reading pane the system does nothing for
about
: 30
: : seconds. There is no network activity and only sporadic hard drive
: : activity. It's like the system has to think about something before
it
: : displays that first message that it just received. Once the first
: message
: : is displayed, all other messages appear in the reading pane at
proper
: : speeds.
: :
: : Thanks again,
: : Bill
: :
: :
: :
: : "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: : ...
: : I'm not sure if I am following you with the archiving. Do you
have
dbx
: : files for folders that do not exist in OE's folder tree? Were
they
: lost
: : after you compacted? Or did you do something?
: : --
: : Bruce Hagen
: : MS-MVP Outlook Express
: : Imperial Beach, CA
: :
: : "No One" wrote in message
: : . ..
: : I have cleaned up the temp file in IE 7 and restored my
right-click
: : options. Thank you.
: :
: : I have a huge archive of old mail dating back to 1999. Each
year
is
: : archived in a separate folder, named archive/past
years/2006/inbox
: for
: : example. In addition, in the archive folder I have an inbox
folder
: for
: : the current year that I move messages into regularly from the
: everyday
: : inbox. Ditto for sent messages. So the daily inbox and sent
messages
: : folders remain small.
: :
: : This problem began after a compacting. I have copies of the
folders
: on
: : another computer, so I tried deleting all but one message from
all
: the
: : past years with no help. Up til this problem started my archive
: method
: : has been working great for 8 years. Any other ideas? Is there
a
way
: to
: : have OR rebuild the indexes and so on if I copy the backup
copied
of
: : inbox(1), inbox(2) and so on back into my store directory?
: :
: : Thanks again,
: : Bill
: :
: :
: : "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Problem #2:
: :
: : For IE6:
: :
: : Clear the Temporary Internet Files: In IE | Tools | Internet
Options
: |
: : Delete Files button. And check the box to Delete Offline
content.
: :
: : For IE7:
: :
: : Tools | Internet Options | General Tab | Browsing History |
Delete
: : Temporary Internet Files.
: :
: : Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
: : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978
: :
: : Problem #1. May just need some tidying up.
: :
: : General precautions for Outlook Express:
: :
: : Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
: become
: : corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail
and
: move
: : your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep
user
: : created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
: : feasible.
: :
: : After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders
manually
: while
: : working *offline* and do it often.
: :
: : Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders
: are
: : open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online
in
: the
: : Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
: anything
: : until the compacting is completed.
: :
: : Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a
: redundant
: : layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
: problems
: : such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date
A/V
: : program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more,
see:
: : http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
: :
: : In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
: background
: : and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
: :
: : And backup often.
: :
: : Backup & Resto
: : http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
: :
: : This is a great two click program:
: :
: : Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
: : http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: : --
: : Bruce Hagen
: : MS-MVP Outlook Express
: : Imperial Beach, CA
: :
: : "No One" wrote in message
: : . ..
: : Hi everyone ...
: :
: : I have two problems with OE6 on Windows XP SP2.
: :
: : For some reason, it now takes about 30 seconds to display the
first
: : message. The messages download fine, but when it gets ready to
: display
: : it the system appears to just hang for almost 30 seconds, with
no
: : network activity. Once it's displayed that first message,
other
: : messages appear quickly as they should.
: :
: : Second problem is right-click to "Save As ..." I no longer
get
any
: : options except to save it as "untitled.bmp", which I can
rename,
: but
: : I'm trying to save .jpg images. If I click on the paperclip
and
: select
: : Save Attachments it presents me with the correct filename and
: extension
: : to save it to. I want to restore my right-click ability to
save
it
: as
: : named and as type.
: :
: : Thanks for any guidance here.
: :
: : Bill Stewart
: : Cape Coral, FL
: :
: :
: :
: : --
: :
: : ====================
: : JUST IN FROM MEXICO:
: :
: : President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico
will
: not
: : participate in the next Summer Olympics. He said that, "Anyone
who
: can
: : run, jump, or swim has already left the country."
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
:
:
:




 




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