I'm not sure if I am following you with the archiving. Do you have dbx files
for folders that do not exist in OE's folder tree? Were they lost after you
compacted? Or did you do something?
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
I have cleaned up the temp file in IE 7 and restored my right-click
options. Thank you.

I have a huge archive of old mail dating back to 1999. Each year is
archived in a separate folder, named archive/past years/2006/inbox for
example. In addition, in the archive folder I have an inbox folder for
the current year that I move messages into regularly from the everyday
inbox. Ditto for sent messages. So the daily inbox and sent messages
folders remain small.

This problem began after a compacting. I have copies of the folders on
another computer, so I tried deleting all but one message from all the
past years with no help. Up til this problem started my archive method
has been working great for 8 years. Any other ideas? Is there a way to
have OR rebuild the indexes and so on if I copy the backup copied of
inbox(1), inbox(2) and so on back into my store directory?

Thanks again,
Bill


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Problem #2:

For IE6:

Clear the Temporary Internet Files: In IE | Tools | Internet Options |
Delete Files button. And check the box to Delete Offline content.

For IE7:

Tools | Internet Options | General Tab | Browsing History | Delete
Temporary Internet Files.

Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978

Problem #1. May just need some tidying up.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V
program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background
and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
Hi everyone ...

I have two problems with OE6 on Windows XP SP2.

For some reason, it now takes about 30 seconds to display the first
message. The messages download fine, but when it gets ready to display
it the system appears to just hang for almost 30 seconds, with no
network activity. Once it's displayed that first message, other
messages appear quickly as they should.

Second problem is right-click to "Save As ..." I no longer get any
options except to save it as "untitled.bmp", which I can rename, but I'm
trying to save .jpg images. If I click on the paperclip and select Save
Attachments it presents me with the correct filename and extension to
save it to. I want to restore my right-click ability to save it as
named and as type.

Thanks for any guidance here.

Bill Stewart
Cape Coral, FL



--

====================
JUST IN FROM MEXICO:

President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico will not
participate in the next Summer Olympics. He said that, "Anyone who can
run, jump, or swim has already left the country."

..dbx folders are present. What I do is move the messages into an archive
folder. The messages are there with no problem. The problem I'm having
with OE6 is that when I first start it up, it receives messages from the
email accounts that I have, both POP3 and hotmail. When it goes to display
the FIRST message in the reading pane the system does nothing for about 30
seconds. There is no network activity and only sporadic hard drive
activity. It's like the system has to think about something before it
displays that first message that it just received. Once the first message
is displayed, all other messages appear in the reading pane at proper
speeds.

Thanks again,
Bill



"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure if I am following you with the archiving. Do you have dbx
files for folders that do not exist in OE's folder tree? Were they lost
after you compacted? Or did you do something?
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
I have cleaned up the temp file in IE 7 and restored my right-click
options. Thank you.

I have a huge archive of old mail dating back to 1999. Each year is
archived in a separate folder, named archive/past years/2006/inbox for
example. In addition, in the archive folder I have an inbox folder for
the current year that I move messages into regularly from the everyday
inbox. Ditto for sent messages. So the daily inbox and sent messages
folders remain small.

This problem began after a compacting. I have copies of the folders on
another computer, so I tried deleting all but one message from all the
past years with no help. Up til this problem started my archive method
has been working great for 8 years. Any other ideas? Is there a way to
have OR rebuild the indexes and so on if I copy the backup copied of
inbox(1), inbox(2) and so on back into my store directory?

Thanks again,
Bill


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Problem #2:

For IE6:

Clear the Temporary Internet Files: In IE | Tools | Internet Options |
Delete Files button. And check the box to Delete Offline content.

For IE7:

Tools | Internet Options | General Tab | Browsing History | Delete
Temporary Internet Files.

Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978

Problem #1. May just need some tidying up.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V
program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background
and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
Hi everyone ...

I have two problems with OE6 on Windows XP SP2.

For some reason, it now takes about 30 seconds to display the first
message. The messages download fine, but when it gets ready to display
it the system appears to just hang for almost 30 seconds, with no
network activity. Once it's displayed that first message, other
messages appear quickly as they should.

Second problem is right-click to "Save As ..." I no longer get any
options except to save it as "untitled.bmp", which I can rename, but
I'm trying to save .jpg images. If I click on the paperclip and select
Save Attachments it presents me with the correct filename and extension
to save it to. I want to restore my right-click ability to save it as
named and as type.

Thanks for any guidance here.

Bill Stewart
Cape Coral, FL



--

====================
JUST IN FROM MEXICO:

President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico will not
participate in the next Summer Olympics. He said that, "Anyone who can
run, jump, or swim has already left the country."

OK. The messages download as they should, but you can't see the text of the
first message without a delay?

You may have a damaged identity especially if it is the default Main
Identity. File | Identity | Add New Identity. Create a new one and test it.
If all is well, you can import your messages and Address Book from the old
identity and delete it.

How to Create and Use Identities in Outlook Express
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=209169
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
...
.dbx folders are present. What I do is move the messages into an archive
folder. The messages are there with no problem. The problem I'm having
with OE6 is that when I first start it up, it receives messages from the
email accounts that I have, both POP3 and hotmail. When it goes to
display the FIRST message in the reading pane the system does nothing for
about 30 seconds. There is no network activity and only sporadic hard
drive activity. It's like the system has to think about something before
it displays that first message that it just received. Once the first
message is displayed, all other messages appear in the reading pane at
proper speeds.

Thanks again,
Bill



"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure if I am following you with the archiving. Do you have dbx
files for folders that do not exist in OE's folder tree? Were they lost
after you compacted? Or did you do something?
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
I have cleaned up the temp file in IE 7 and restored my right-click
options. Thank you.

I have a huge archive of old mail dating back to 1999. Each year is
archived in a separate folder, named archive/past years/2006/inbox for
example. In addition, in the archive folder I have an inbox folder for
the current year that I move messages into regularly from the everyday
inbox. Ditto for sent messages. So the daily inbox and sent messages
folders remain small.

This problem began after a compacting. I have copies of the folders on
another computer, so I tried deleting all but one message from all the
past years with no help. Up til this problem started my archive method
has been working great for 8 years. Any other ideas? Is there a way to
have OR rebuild the indexes and so on if I copy the backup copied of
inbox(1), inbox(2) and so on back into my store directory?

Thanks again,
Bill


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Problem #2:

For IE6:

Clear the Temporary Internet Files: In IE | Tools | Internet Options |
Delete Files button. And check the box to Delete Offline content.

For IE7:

Tools | Internet Options | General Tab | Browsing History | Delete
Temporary Internet Files.

Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978

Problem #1. May just need some tidying up.

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
are open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in
the Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
anything until the compacting is completed.

Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
problems such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date
A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.

And backup often.

Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/

This is a great two click program:

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
Hi everyone ...

I have two problems with OE6 on Windows XP SP2.

For some reason, it now takes about 30 seconds to display the first
message. The messages download fine, but when it gets ready to display
it the system appears to just hang for almost 30 seconds, with no
network activity. Once it's displayed that first message, other
messages appear quickly as they should.

Second problem is right-click to "Save As ..." I no longer get any
options except to save it as "untitled.bmp", which I can rename, but
I'm trying to save .jpg images. If I click on the paperclip and
select Save Attachments it presents me with the correct filename and
extension to save it to. I want to restore my right-click ability to
save it as named and as type.

Thanks for any guidance here.

Bill Stewart
Cape Coral, FL



--

====================
JUST IN FROM MEXICO:

President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico will not
participate in the next Summer Olympics. He said that, "Anyone who can
run, jump, or swim has already left the country."

After you move messages to other folders, do you compact the folders?
How often do you compact the folders?
--
Ronald Sommer

"No One" wrote in message
...
: .dbx folders are present. What I do is move the messages into an archive
: folder. The messages are there with no problem. The problem I'm having
: with OE6 is that when I first start it up, it receives messages from the
: email accounts that I have, both POP3 and hotmail. When it goes to
display
: the FIRST message in the reading pane the system does nothing for about 30
: seconds. There is no network activity and only sporadic hard drive
: activity. It's like the system has to think about something before it
: displays that first message that it just received. Once the first message
: is displayed, all other messages appear in the reading pane at proper
: speeds.
:
: Thanks again,
: Bill
:
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: I'm not sure if I am following you with the archiving. Do you have dbx
: files for folders that do not exist in OE's folder tree? Were they lost
: after you compacted? Or did you do something?
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: Imperial Beach, CA
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: . ..
: I have cleaned up the temp file in IE 7 and restored my right-click
: options. Thank you.
:
: I have a huge archive of old mail dating back to 1999. Each year is
: archived in a separate folder, named archive/past years/2006/inbox for
: example. In addition, in the archive folder I have an inbox folder for
: the current year that I move messages into regularly from the everyday
: inbox. Ditto for sent messages. So the daily inbox and sent messages
: folders remain small.
:
: This problem began after a compacting. I have copies of the folders on
: another computer, so I tried deleting all but one message from all the
: past years with no help. Up til this problem started my archive method
: has been working great for 8 years. Any other ideas? Is there a way
to
: have OR rebuild the indexes and so on if I copy the backup copied of
: inbox(1), inbox(2) and so on back into my store directory?
:
: Thanks again,
: Bill
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: Problem #2:
:
: For IE6:
:
: Clear the Temporary Internet Files: In IE | Tools | Internet Options |
: Delete Files button. And check the box to Delete Offline content.
:
: For IE7:
:
: Tools | Internet Options | General Tab | Browsing History | Delete
: Temporary Internet Files.
:
: Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978
:
: Problem #1. May just need some tidying up.
:
: General precautions for Outlook Express:
:
: Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
: corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move
: your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
: created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
: feasible.
:
: After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while
: working *offline* and do it often.
:
: Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
are
: open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
: Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
: until the compacting is completed.
:
: Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
: layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
problems
: such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V
: program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
:
: In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background
: and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
:
: And backup often.
:
: Backup & Resto
: http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
:
: This is a great two click program:
:
: Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: Imperial Beach, CA
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: . ..
: Hi everyone ...
:
: I have two problems with OE6 on Windows XP SP2.
:
: For some reason, it now takes about 30 seconds to display the first
: message. The messages download fine, but when it gets ready to
display
: it the system appears to just hang for almost 30 seconds, with no
: network activity. Once it's displayed that first message, other
: messages appear quickly as they should.
:
: Second problem is right-click to "Save As ..." I no longer get any
: options except to save it as "untitled.bmp", which I can rename, but
: I'm trying to save .jpg images. If I click on the paperclip and
select
: Save Attachments it presents me with the correct filename and
extension
: to save it to. I want to restore my right-click ability to save it
as
: named and as type.
:
: Thanks for any guidance here.
:
: Bill Stewart
: Cape Coral, FL
:
:
:
: --
:
: ====================
: JUST IN FROM MEXICO:
:
: President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico will
not
: participate in the next Summer Olympics. He said that, "Anyone who
can
: run, jump, or swim has already left the country."
:
:
:
:
:
:
:

OK, I've created several identities in various tries and her's what happens.

First, to answer Ronald's question, yes they were compacted, and in the
usual 100 runs. The sizes of the past year files were all much greater than
100MB, but that has not been a problem until recently, and has worked for 8
years now. These folders have been compacted and re-compacted at the 100
run interval any number of times now since it became forced. Prior to that
I never compacted them.

On creating a new identity and importing the account settings for mail and
newsgroups from the Main Identity all appears to be fine. Messages appear
promptly. When I begin importing messages, though, the hang-time
re-appears. Also, when importing, say, Archive/Past Years/2002/Inbox from
the Main Identity I may get 2005 instead. The store directory has
Inbox.dbx, Inbox (1).dbx, Inbox (2).dbx and so on through Inbox (9).dbx.
Ditto for Sent Items. There are folders for each of the years
1999-2006.dbx, and so on. Apparently Inbox (3).dbx in Main Identity does
not correspond to Inbox (3) in the new Identity. Deleting the past years
altogether does not resolve the issue. Deleteing all but one message from
each year also did not resolve it.

I'd have to guess there must be something in the message folders creating
the problem since until I start importing the problem doesn't exist.
However, the problem re-appears no matter what folder I import. This may
mean all folders became corrupted in compacting, or something else
altogether is causing it through the import routine.

I've spent several hours now trying to rebuild identities and various
imports. The ONLY way so far to avoid the problem is to start a new
identity and import NO messages, thus abandoning the archives I been keeping
for 8 years. I repeat, there never was a problem before the compacting
became mandatory after 100 runs.

So I'm still stuck. I hate to lose 8 years of messages, or even THIS years
messages if I let the 8 go. What next?

THANKS for comtinuing to look at this,
Bill






"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
After you move messages to other folders, do you compact the folders?
How often do you compact the folders?
--
Ronald Sommer

"No One" wrote in message
...
: .dbx folders are present. What I do is move the messages into an
archive
: folder. The messages are there with no problem. The problem I'm having
: with OE6 is that when I first start it up, it receives messages from the
: email accounts that I have, both POP3 and hotmail. When it goes to
display
: the FIRST message in the reading pane the system does nothing for about
30
: seconds. There is no network activity and only sporadic hard drive
: activity. It's like the system has to think about something before it
: displays that first message that it just received. Once the first
message
: is displayed, all other messages appear in the reading pane at proper
: speeds.
:
: Thanks again,
: Bill
:
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: I'm not sure if I am following you with the archiving. Do you have dbx
: files for folders that do not exist in OE's folder tree? Were they
lost
: after you compacted? Or did you do something?
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: Imperial Beach, CA
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: . ..
: I have cleaned up the temp file in IE 7 and restored my right-click
: options. Thank you.
:
: I have a huge archive of old mail dating back to 1999. Each year is
: archived in a separate folder, named archive/past years/2006/inbox
for
: example. In addition, in the archive folder I have an inbox folder
for
: the current year that I move messages into regularly from the
everyday
: inbox. Ditto for sent messages. So the daily inbox and sent messages
: folders remain small.
:
: This problem began after a compacting. I have copies of the folders
on
: another computer, so I tried deleting all but one message from all
the
: past years with no help. Up til this problem started my archive
method
: has been working great for 8 years. Any other ideas? Is there a way
to
: have OR rebuild the indexes and so on if I copy the backup copied of
: inbox(1), inbox(2) and so on back into my store directory?
:
: Thanks again,
: Bill
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: Problem #2:
:
: For IE6:
:
: Clear the Temporary Internet Files: In IE | Tools | Internet Options
|
: Delete Files button. And check the box to Delete Offline content.
:
: For IE7:
:
: Tools | Internet Options | General Tab | Browsing History | Delete
: Temporary Internet Files.
:
: Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978
:
: Problem #1. May just need some tidying up.
:
: General precautions for Outlook Express:
:
: Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become
: corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move
: your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
: created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
: feasible.
:
: After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while
: working *offline* and do it often.
:
: Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
are
: open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in
the
: Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
anything
: until the compacting is completed.
:
: Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a
redundant
: layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
problems
: such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V
: program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
:
: In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background
: and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
:
: And backup often.
:
: Backup & Resto
: http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
:
: This is a great two click program:
:
: Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: Imperial Beach, CA
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: . ..
: Hi everyone ...
:
: I have two problems with OE6 on Windows XP SP2.
:
: For some reason, it now takes about 30 seconds to display the first
: message. The messages download fine, but when it gets ready to
display
: it the system appears to just hang for almost 30 seconds, with no
: network activity. Once it's displayed that first message, other
: messages appear quickly as they should.
:
: Second problem is right-click to "Save As ..." I no longer get any
: options except to save it as "untitled.bmp", which I can rename,
but
: I'm trying to save .jpg images. If I click on the paperclip and
select
: Save Attachments it presents me with the correct filename and
extension
: to save it to. I want to restore my right-click ability to save it
as
: named and as type.
:
: Thanks for any guidance here.
:
: Bill Stewart
: Cape Coral, FL
:
:
:
: --
:
: ====================
: JUST IN FROM MEXICO:
:
: President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico will
not
: participate in the next Summer Olympics. He said that, "Anyone who
can
: run, jump, or swim has already left the country."
:
:
:
:
:
:
:

After you get the folders into OE, why not archive the folders on your HDD?
This will keep OE clean and you will still have access to the messages.

One way to save an entire folder to your HDD quickly is this. You can store
them any place you want, but I'll use the Desktop as an example.

Right click on the Desktop | New | Folder. Create as many as needed, and for
now, put them on the left side of the Desktop.

Open OE and drag the window to the right enough to see the folder you
created on the Desktop. Open the folder in OE and click on one message.
Ctrl+A will highlight them all. Left click on the messages and drag them to
the folder on the Desktop.

You can also be selective by holding the Ctrl key and just highlight certain
messages and then drag them to the folder on the Desktop.

Once you confirm they are in these folders, you can delete them from OE if
you wish, and follow up with a Compact All Folders.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
OK, I've created several identities in various tries and her's what
happens.

First, to answer Ronald's question, yes they were compacted, and in the
usual 100 runs. The sizes of the past year files were all much greater
than 100MB, but that has not been a problem until recently, and has worked
for 8 years now. These folders have been compacted and re-compacted at
the 100 run interval any number of times now since it became forced.
Prior to that I never compacted them.

On creating a new identity and importing the account settings for mail and
newsgroups from the Main Identity all appears to be fine. Messages appear
promptly. When I begin importing messages, though, the hang-time
re-appears. Also, when importing, say, Archive/Past Years/2002/Inbox from
the Main Identity I may get 2005 instead. The store directory has
Inbox.dbx, Inbox (1).dbx, Inbox (2).dbx and so on through Inbox (9).dbx.
Ditto for Sent Items. There are folders for each of the years
1999-2006.dbx, and so on. Apparently Inbox (3).dbx in Main Identity does
not correspond to Inbox (3) in the new Identity. Deleting the past years
altogether does not resolve the issue. Deleteing all but one message from
each year also did not resolve it.

I'd have to guess there must be something in the message folders creating
the problem since until I start importing the problem doesn't exist.
However, the problem re-appears no matter what folder I import. This may
mean all folders became corrupted in compacting, or something else
altogether is causing it through the import routine.

I've spent several hours now trying to rebuild identities and various
imports. The ONLY way so far to avoid the problem is to start a new
identity and import NO messages, thus abandoning the archives I been
keeping for 8 years. I repeat, there never was a problem before the
compacting became mandatory after 100 runs.

So I'm still stuck. I hate to lose 8 years of messages, or even THIS
years messages if I let the 8 go. What next?

THANKS for comtinuing to look at this,
Bill






"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
After you move messages to other folders, do you compact the folders?
How often do you compact the folders?
--
Ronald Sommer

"No One" wrote in message
...
: .dbx folders are present. What I do is move the messages into an
archive
: folder. The messages are there with no problem. The problem I'm
having
: with OE6 is that when I first start it up, it receives messages from
the
: email accounts that I have, both POP3 and hotmail. When it goes to
display
: the FIRST message in the reading pane the system does nothing for about
30
: seconds. There is no network activity and only sporadic hard drive
: activity. It's like the system has to think about something before it
: displays that first message that it just received. Once the first
message
: is displayed, all other messages appear in the reading pane at proper
: speeds.
:
: Thanks again,
: Bill
:
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: I'm not sure if I am following you with the archiving. Do you have
dbx
: files for folders that do not exist in OE's folder tree? Were they
lost
: after you compacted? Or did you do something?
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: Imperial Beach, CA
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: . ..
: I have cleaned up the temp file in IE 7 and restored my right-click
: options. Thank you.
:
: I have a huge archive of old mail dating back to 1999. Each year is
: archived in a separate folder, named archive/past years/2006/inbox
for
: example. In addition, in the archive folder I have an inbox folder
for
: the current year that I move messages into regularly from the
everyday
: inbox. Ditto for sent messages. So the daily inbox and sent
messages
: folders remain small.
:
: This problem began after a compacting. I have copies of the folders
on
: another computer, so I tried deleting all but one message from all
the
: past years with no help. Up til this problem started my archive
method
: has been working great for 8 years. Any other ideas? Is there a
way
to
: have OR rebuild the indexes and so on if I copy the backup copied of
: inbox(1), inbox(2) and so on back into my store directory?
:
: Thanks again,
: Bill
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: Problem #2:
:
: For IE6:
:
: Clear the Temporary Internet Files: In IE | Tools | Internet
Options |
: Delete Files button. And check the box to Delete Offline content.
:
: For IE7:
:
: Tools | Internet Options | General Tab | Browsing History | Delete
: Temporary Internet Files.
:
: Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978
:
: Problem #1. May just need some tidying up.
:
: General precautions for Outlook Express:
:
: Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become
: corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move
: your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
: created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
: feasible.
:
: After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while
: working *offline* and do it often.
:
: Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders
are
: open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in
the
: Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
anything
: until the compacting is completed.
:
: Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a
redundant
: layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
problems
: such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V
: program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
:
: In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background
: and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
:
: And backup often.
:
: Backup & Resto
: http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
:
: This is a great two click program:
:
: Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: Imperial Beach, CA
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: . ..
: Hi everyone ...
:
: I have two problems with OE6 on Windows XP SP2.
:
: For some reason, it now takes about 30 seconds to display the
first
: message. The messages download fine, but when it gets ready to
display
: it the system appears to just hang for almost 30 seconds, with no
: network activity. Once it's displayed that first message, other
: messages appear quickly as they should.
:
: Second problem is right-click to "Save As ..." I no longer get
any
: options except to save it as "untitled.bmp", which I can rename,
but
: I'm trying to save .jpg images. If I click on the paperclip and
select
: Save Attachments it presents me with the correct filename and
extension
: to save it to. I want to restore my right-click ability to save
it
as
: named and as type.
:
: Thanks for any guidance here.
:
: Bill Stewart
: Cape Coral, FL
:
:
:
: --
:
: ====================
: JUST IN FROM MEXICO:
:
: President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico will
not
: participate in the next Summer Olympics. He said that, "Anyone who
can
: run, jump, or swim has already left the country."
:
:
:
:
:
:
:

Gonna play with this ...


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
After you get the folders into OE, why not archive the folders on your
HDD? This will keep OE clean and you will still have access to the
messages.

One way to save an entire folder to your HDD quickly is this. You can
store them any place you want, but I'll use the Desktop as an example.

Right click on the Desktop | New | Folder. Create as many as needed, and
for now, put them on the left side of the Desktop.

Open OE and drag the window to the right enough to see the folder you
created on the Desktop. Open the folder in OE and click on one message.
Ctrl+A will highlight them all. Left click on the messages and drag them
to the folder on the Desktop.

You can also be selective by holding the Ctrl key and just highlight
certain messages and then drag them to the folder on the Desktop.

Once you confirm they are in these folders, you can delete them from OE if
you wish, and follow up with a Compact All Folders.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until the compacting is completed.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
OK, I've created several identities in various tries and her's what
happens.

First, to answer Ronald's question, yes they were compacted, and in the
usual 100 runs. The sizes of the past year files were all much greater
than 100MB, but that has not been a problem until recently, and has
worked for 8 years now. These folders have been compacted and
re-compacted at the 100 run interval any number of times now since it
became forced. Prior to that I never compacted them.

On creating a new identity and importing the account settings for mail
and newsgroups from the Main Identity all appears to be fine. Messages
appear promptly. When I begin importing messages, though, the hang-time
re-appears. Also, when importing, say, Archive/Past Years/2002/Inbox
from the Main Identity I may get 2005 instead. The store directory has
Inbox.dbx, Inbox (1).dbx, Inbox (2).dbx and so on through Inbox (9).dbx.
Ditto for Sent Items. There are folders for each of the years
1999-2006.dbx, and so on. Apparently Inbox (3).dbx in Main Identity does
not correspond to Inbox (3) in the new Identity. Deleting the past years
altogether does not resolve the issue. Deleteing all but one message
from each year also did not resolve it.

I'd have to guess there must be something in the message folders creating
the problem since until I start importing the problem doesn't exist.
However, the problem re-appears no matter what folder I import. This may
mean all folders became corrupted in compacting, or something else
altogether is causing it through the import routine.

I've spent several hours now trying to rebuild identities and various
imports. The ONLY way so far to avoid the problem is to start a new
identity and import NO messages, thus abandoning the archives I been
keeping for 8 years. I repeat, there never was a problem before the
compacting became mandatory after 100 runs.

So I'm still stuck. I hate to lose 8 years of messages, or even THIS
years messages if I let the 8 go. What next?

THANKS for comtinuing to look at this,
Bill






"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
After you move messages to other folders, do you compact the folders?
How often do you compact the folders?
--
Ronald Sommer

"No One" wrote in message
...
: .dbx folders are present. What I do is move the messages into an
archive
: folder. The messages are there with no problem. The problem I'm
having
: with OE6 is that when I first start it up, it receives messages from
the
: email accounts that I have, both POP3 and hotmail. When it goes to
display
: the FIRST message in the reading pane the system does nothing for
about 30
: seconds. There is no network activity and only sporadic hard drive
: activity. It's like the system has to think about something before it
: displays that first message that it just received. Once the first
message
: is displayed, all other messages appear in the reading pane at proper
: speeds.
:
: Thanks again,
: Bill
:
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: I'm not sure if I am following you with the archiving. Do you have
dbx
: files for folders that do not exist in OE's folder tree? Were they
lost
: after you compacted? Or did you do something?
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: Imperial Beach, CA
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: . ..
: I have cleaned up the temp file in IE 7 and restored my right-click
: options. Thank you.
:
: I have a huge archive of old mail dating back to 1999. Each year
is
: archived in a separate folder, named archive/past years/2006/inbox
for
: example. In addition, in the archive folder I have an inbox folder
for
: the current year that I move messages into regularly from the
everyday
: inbox. Ditto for sent messages. So the daily inbox and sent
messages
: folders remain small.
:
: This problem began after a compacting. I have copies of the
folders on
: another computer, so I tried deleting all but one message from all
the
: past years with no help. Up til this problem started my archive
method
: has been working great for 8 years. Any other ideas? Is there a
way
to
: have OR rebuild the indexes and so on if I copy the backup copied
of
: inbox(1), inbox(2) and so on back into my store directory?
:
: Thanks again,
: Bill
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: Problem #2:
:
: For IE6:
:
: Clear the Temporary Internet Files: In IE | Tools | Internet
Options |
: Delete Files button. And check the box to Delete Offline content.
:
: For IE7:
:
: Tools | Internet Options | General Tab | Browsing History | Delete
: Temporary Internet Files.
:
: Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978
:
: Problem #1. May just need some tidying up.
:
: General precautions for Outlook Express:
:
: Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become
: corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move
: your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
: created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
: feasible.
:
: After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while
: working *offline* and do it often.
:
: Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders
are
: open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in
the
: Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
anything
: until the compacting is completed.
:
: Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a
redundant
: layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
problems
: such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V
: program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
:
: In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background
: and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
:
: And backup often.
:
: Backup & Resto
: http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
:
: This is a great two click program:
:
: Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: Imperial Beach, CA
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: . ..
: Hi everyone ...
:
: I have two problems with OE6 on Windows XP SP2.
:
: For some reason, it now takes about 30 seconds to display the
first
: message. The messages download fine, but when it gets ready to
display
: it the system appears to just hang for almost 30 seconds, with no
: network activity. Once it's displayed that first message, other
: messages appear quickly as they should.
:
: Second problem is right-click to "Save As ..." I no longer get
any
: options except to save it as "untitled.bmp", which I can rename,
but
: I'm trying to save .jpg images. If I click on the paperclip and
select
: Save Attachments it presents me with the correct filename and
extension
: to save it to. I want to restore my right-click ability to save
it
as
: named and as type.
:
: Thanks for any guidance here.
:
: Bill Stewart
: Cape Coral, FL
:
:
:
: --
:
: ====================
: JUST IN FROM MEXICO:
:
: President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico
will
not
: participate in the next Summer Olympics. He said that, "Anyone
who
can
: run, jump, or swim has already left the country."
:
:
:
:
:
:
:

OK, that works to store the messages, but you cannot tell who they're from
that way if you're looking for all mail from so-and-so. Can I then drag the
folder from the desktop, or wherever, back into OE to get full search
features back?




"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
After you get the folders into OE, why not archive the folders on your
HDD? This will keep OE clean and you will still have access to the
messages.

One way to save an entire folder to your HDD quickly is this. You can
store them any place you want, but I'll use the Desktop as an example.

Right click on the Desktop | New | Folder. Create as many as needed, and
for now, put them on the left side of the Desktop.

Open OE and drag the window to the right enough to see the folder you
created on the Desktop. Open the folder in OE and click on one message.
Ctrl+A will highlight them all. Left click on the messages and drag them
to the folder on the Desktop.

You can also be selective by holding the Ctrl key and just highlight
certain messages and then drag them to the folder on the Desktop.

Once you confirm they are in these folders, you can delete them from OE if
you wish, and follow up with a Compact All Folders.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until the compacting is completed.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
OK, I've created several identities in various tries and her's what
happens.

First, to answer Ronald's question, yes they were compacted, and in the
usual 100 runs. The sizes of the past year files were all much greater
than 100MB, but that has not been a problem until recently, and has
worked for 8 years now. These folders have been compacted and
re-compacted at the 100 run interval any number of times now since it
became forced. Prior to that I never compacted them.

On creating a new identity and importing the account settings for mail
and newsgroups from the Main Identity all appears to be fine. Messages
appear promptly. When I begin importing messages, though, the hang-time
re-appears. Also, when importing, say, Archive/Past Years/2002/Inbox
from the Main Identity I may get 2005 instead. The store directory has
Inbox.dbx, Inbox (1).dbx, Inbox (2).dbx and so on through Inbox (9).dbx.
Ditto for Sent Items. There are folders for each of the years
1999-2006.dbx, and so on. Apparently Inbox (3).dbx in Main Identity does
not correspond to Inbox (3) in the new Identity. Deleting the past years
altogether does not resolve the issue. Deleteing all but one message
from each year also did not resolve it.

I'd have to guess there must be something in the message folders creating
the problem since until I start importing the problem doesn't exist.
However, the problem re-appears no matter what folder I import. This may
mean all folders became corrupted in compacting, or something else
altogether is causing it through the import routine.

I've spent several hours now trying to rebuild identities and various
imports. The ONLY way so far to avoid the problem is to start a new
identity and import NO messages, thus abandoning the archives I been
keeping for 8 years. I repeat, there never was a problem before the
compacting became mandatory after 100 runs.

So I'm still stuck. I hate to lose 8 years of messages, or even THIS
years messages if I let the 8 go. What next?

THANKS for comtinuing to look at this,
Bill






"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
After you move messages to other folders, do you compact the folders?
How often do you compact the folders?
--
Ronald Sommer

"No One" wrote in message
...
: .dbx folders are present. What I do is move the messages into an
archive
: folder. The messages are there with no problem. The problem I'm
having
: with OE6 is that when I first start it up, it receives messages from
the
: email accounts that I have, both POP3 and hotmail. When it goes to
display
: the FIRST message in the reading pane the system does nothing for
about 30
: seconds. There is no network activity and only sporadic hard drive
: activity. It's like the system has to think about something before it
: displays that first message that it just received. Once the first
message
: is displayed, all other messages appear in the reading pane at proper
: speeds.
:
: Thanks again,
: Bill
:
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: I'm not sure if I am following you with the archiving. Do you have
dbx
: files for folders that do not exist in OE's folder tree? Were they
lost
: after you compacted? Or did you do something?
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: Imperial Beach, CA
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: . ..
: I have cleaned up the temp file in IE 7 and restored my right-click
: options. Thank you.
:
: I have a huge archive of old mail dating back to 1999. Each year
is
: archived in a separate folder, named archive/past years/2006/inbox
for
: example. In addition, in the archive folder I have an inbox folder
for
: the current year that I move messages into regularly from the
everyday
: inbox. Ditto for sent messages. So the daily inbox and sent
messages
: folders remain small.
:
: This problem began after a compacting. I have copies of the
folders on
: another computer, so I tried deleting all but one message from all
the
: past years with no help. Up til this problem started my archive
method
: has been working great for 8 years. Any other ideas? Is there a
way
to
: have OR rebuild the indexes and so on if I copy the backup copied
of
: inbox(1), inbox(2) and so on back into my store directory?
:
: Thanks again,
: Bill
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: Problem #2:
:
: For IE6:
:
: Clear the Temporary Internet Files: In IE | Tools | Internet
Options |
: Delete Files button. And check the box to Delete Offline content.
:
: For IE7:
:
: Tools | Internet Options | General Tab | Browsing History | Delete
: Temporary Internet Files.
:
: Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978
:
: Problem #1. May just need some tidying up.
:
: General precautions for Outlook Express:
:
: Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become
: corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
move
: your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
: created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
: feasible.
:
: After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while
: working *offline* and do it often.
:
: Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders
are
: open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in
the
: Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
anything
: until the compacting is completed.
:
: Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a
redundant
: layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
problems
: such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V
: program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
:
: In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background
: and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
:
: And backup often.
:
: Backup & Resto
: http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
:
: This is a great two click program:
:
: Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: Imperial Beach, CA
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: . ..
: Hi everyone ...
:
: I have two problems with OE6 on Windows XP SP2.
:
: For some reason, it now takes about 30 seconds to display the
first
: message. The messages download fine, but when it gets ready to
display
: it the system appears to just hang for almost 30 seconds, with no
: network activity. Once it's displayed that first message, other
: messages appear quickly as they should.
:
: Second problem is right-click to "Save As ..." I no longer get
any
: options except to save it as "untitled.bmp", which I can rename,
but
: I'm trying to save .jpg images. If I click on the paperclip and
select
: Save Attachments it presents me with the correct filename and
extension
: to save it to. I want to restore my right-click ability to save
it
as
: named and as type.
:
: Thanks for any guidance here.
:
: Bill Stewart
: Cape Coral, FL
:
:
:
: --
:
: ====================
: JUST IN FROM MEXICO:
:
: President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico
will
not
: participate in the next Summer Olympics. He said that, "Anyone
who
can
: run, jump, or swim has already left the country."
:
:
:
:
:
:
:

Yes. Open OE and create a folder with the *exact* same name as the one on
the Desktop. Open the new folder and then close OE. Go to Windows Explorer
and locate the Message Store folder for your OE identity, but don't open it.
Click on the Desktop and drag the file from the Desktop in the right hand
pane to the OE store folder in the left pane. Prompt - "Do you want to
overwrite......."? Click Yes.

But if you are going to have to do this often, then I stand by my second
suggestion. Create a new identity and import only your active folders. Leave
this identity solely for the archived folders.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
OK, that works to store the messages, but you cannot tell who they're from
that way if you're looking for all mail from so-and-so. Can I then drag
the folder from the desktop, or wherever, back into OE to get full search
features back?




"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
After you get the folders into OE, why not archive the folders on your
HDD? This will keep OE clean and you will still have access to the
messages.

One way to save an entire folder to your HDD quickly is this. You can
store them any place you want, but I'll use the Desktop as an example.

Right click on the Desktop | New | Folder. Create as many as needed, and
for now, put them on the left side of the Desktop.

Open OE and drag the window to the right enough to see the folder you
created on the Desktop. Open the folder in OE and click on one message.
Ctrl+A will highlight them all. Left click on the messages and drag them
to the folder on the Desktop.

You can also be selective by holding the Ctrl key and just highlight
certain messages and then drag them to the folder on the Desktop.

Once you confirm they are in these folders, you can delete them from OE
if you wish, and follow up with a Compact All Folders.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until the compacting is completed.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
OK, I've created several identities in various tries and her's what
happens.

First, to answer Ronald's question, yes they were compacted, and in the
usual 100 runs. The sizes of the past year files were all much greater
than 100MB, but that has not been a problem until recently, and has
worked for 8 years now. These folders have been compacted and
re-compacted at the 100 run interval any number of times now since it
became forced. Prior to that I never compacted them.

On creating a new identity and importing the account settings for mail
and newsgroups from the Main Identity all appears to be fine. Messages
appear promptly. When I begin importing messages, though, the hang-time
re-appears. Also, when importing, say, Archive/Past Years/2002/Inbox
from the Main Identity I may get 2005 instead. The store directory has
Inbox.dbx, Inbox (1).dbx, Inbox (2).dbx and so on through Inbox (9).dbx.
Ditto for Sent Items. There are folders for each of the years
1999-2006.dbx, and so on. Apparently Inbox (3).dbx in Main Identity
does not correspond to Inbox (3) in the new Identity. Deleting the past
years altogether does not resolve the issue. Deleteing all but one
message from each year also did not resolve it.

I'd have to guess there must be something in the message folders
creating the problem since until I start importing the problem doesn't
exist. However, the problem re-appears no matter what folder I import.
This may mean all folders became corrupted in compacting, or something
else altogether is causing it through the import routine.

I've spent several hours now trying to rebuild identities and various
imports. The ONLY way so far to avoid the problem is to start a new
identity and import NO messages, thus abandoning the archives I been
keeping for 8 years. I repeat, there never was a problem before the
compacting became mandatory after 100 runs.

So I'm still stuck. I hate to lose 8 years of messages, or even THIS
years messages if I let the 8 go. What next?

THANKS for comtinuing to look at this,
Bill






"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
After you move messages to other folders, do you compact the folders?
How often do you compact the folders?
--
Ronald Sommer

"No One" wrote in message
...
: .dbx folders are present. What I do is move the messages into an
archive
: folder. The messages are there with no problem. The problem I'm
having
: with OE6 is that when I first start it up, it receives messages from
the
: email accounts that I have, both POP3 and hotmail. When it goes to
display
: the FIRST message in the reading pane the system does nothing for
about 30
: seconds. There is no network activity and only sporadic hard drive
: activity. It's like the system has to think about something before
it
: displays that first message that it just received. Once the first
message
: is displayed, all other messages appear in the reading pane at proper
: speeds.
:
: Thanks again,
: Bill
:
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: I'm not sure if I am following you with the archiving. Do you have
dbx
: files for folders that do not exist in OE's folder tree? Were they
lost
: after you compacted? Or did you do something?
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: Imperial Beach, CA
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: . ..
: I have cleaned up the temp file in IE 7 and restored my right-click
: options. Thank you.
:
: I have a huge archive of old mail dating back to 1999. Each year
is
: archived in a separate folder, named archive/past years/2006/inbox
for
: example. In addition, in the archive folder I have an inbox
folder for
: the current year that I move messages into regularly from the
everyday
: inbox. Ditto for sent messages. So the daily inbox and sent
messages
: folders remain small.
:
: This problem began after a compacting. I have copies of the
folders on
: another computer, so I tried deleting all but one message from all
the
: past years with no help. Up til this problem started my archive
method
: has been working great for 8 years. Any other ideas? Is there a
way
to
: have OR rebuild the indexes and so on if I copy the backup copied
of
: inbox(1), inbox(2) and so on back into my store directory?
:
: Thanks again,
: Bill
:
:
: "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: ...
: Problem #2:
:
: For IE6:
:
: Clear the Temporary Internet Files: In IE | Tools | Internet
Options |
: Delete Files button. And check the box to Delete Offline content.
:
: For IE7:
:
: Tools | Internet Options | General Tab | Browsing History |
Delete
: Temporary Internet Files.
:
: Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978
:
: Problem #1. May just need some tidying up.
:
: General precautions for Outlook Express:
:
: Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become
: corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail
and
move
: your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep
user
: created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
: feasible.
:
: After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
while
: working *offline* and do it often.
:
: Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders
are
: open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online
in the
: Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
anything
: until the compacting is completed.
:
: Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a
redundant
: layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
problems
: such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date
A/V
: program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
:
: In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
background
: and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
:
: And backup often.
:
: Backup & Resto
: http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
:
: This is a great two click program:
:
: Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: Imperial Beach, CA
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: . ..
: Hi everyone ...
:
: I have two problems with OE6 on Windows XP SP2.
:
: For some reason, it now takes about 30 seconds to display the
first
: message. The messages download fine, but when it gets ready to
display
: it the system appears to just hang for almost 30 seconds, with
no
: network activity. Once it's displayed that first message, other
: messages appear quickly as they should.
:
: Second problem is right-click to "Save As ..." I no longer get
any
: options except to save it as "untitled.bmp", which I can rename,
but
: I'm trying to save .jpg images. If I click on the paperclip and
select
: Save Attachments it presents me with the correct filename and
extension
: to save it to. I want to restore my right-click ability to save
it
as
: named and as type.
:
: Thanks for any guidance here.
:
: Bill Stewart
: Cape Coral, FL
:
:
:
: --
:
: ====================
: JUST IN FROM MEXICO:
:
: President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico
will
not
: participate in the next Summer Olympics. He said that, "Anyone
who
can
: run, jump, or swim has already left the country."
:
:
:
:
:
:
:

I hope I have misread your post.
Do you have Inbox(1), Inbox(2), Inbox(3), ..........?
Or do you have inbox(1).dbx, inbox(2).dbx, inbox(3).dbx..........?

Email dbx files with parenthesis and a number are an indication that the
original inbox.dbx has become corrupted.
Newgroup dbx files with parenthesis and a number can be from corruption or
having the same news account on different servers.

Corrupt dbx files will not import.
If in the new Identity, you are getting folders with a parenthesis and a
number, then you are getting corrupted folders.
--
Ronald Sommer

"No One" wrote in message
. ..
: OK, I've created several identities in various tries and her's what
happens.
:
: First, to answer Ronald's question, yes they were compacted, and in the
: usual 100 runs. The sizes of the past year files were all much greater
than
: 100MB, but that has not been a problem until recently, and has worked for
8
: years now. These folders have been compacted and re-compacted at the 100
: run interval any number of times now since it became forced. Prior to
that
: I never compacted them.
:
: On creating a new identity and importing the account settings for mail and
: newsgroups from the Main Identity all appears to be fine. Messages appear
: promptly. When I begin importing messages, though, the hang-time
: re-appears. Also, when importing, say, Archive/Past Years/2002/Inbox from
: the Main Identity I may get 2005 instead. The store directory has
: Inbox.dbx, Inbox (1).dbx, Inbox (2).dbx and so on through Inbox (9).dbx.
: Ditto for Sent Items. There are folders for each of the years
: 1999-2006.dbx, and so on. Apparently Inbox (3).dbx in Main Identity does
: not correspond to Inbox (3) in the new Identity. Deleting the past years
: altogether does not resolve the issue. Deleteing all but one message from
: each year also did not resolve it.
:
: I'd have to guess there must be something in the message folders creating
: the problem since until I start importing the problem doesn't exist.
: However, the problem re-appears no matter what folder I import. This may
: mean all folders became corrupted in compacting, or something else
: altogether is causing it through the import routine.
:
: I've spent several hours now trying to rebuild identities and various
: imports. The ONLY way so far to avoid the problem is to start a new
: identity and import NO messages, thus abandoning the archives I been
keeping
: for 8 years. I repeat, there never was a problem before the compacting
: became mandatory after 100 runs.
:
: So I'm still stuck. I hate to lose 8 years of messages, or even THIS
years
: messages if I let the 8 go. What next?
:
: THANKS for comtinuing to look at this,
: Bill
:
:
:
:
:
:
: "Ron Sommer" wrote in message
: ...
: After you move messages to other folders, do you compact the folders?
: How often do you compact the folders?
: --
: Ronald Sommer
:
: "No One" wrote in message
: ...
: : .dbx folders are present. What I do is move the messages into an
: archive
: : folder. The messages are there with no problem. The problem I'm
having
: : with OE6 is that when I first start it up, it receives messages from
the
: : email accounts that I have, both POP3 and hotmail. When it goes to
: display
: : the FIRST message in the reading pane the system does nothing for
about
: 30
: : seconds. There is no network activity and only sporadic hard drive
: : activity. It's like the system has to think about something before it
: : displays that first message that it just received. Once the first
: message
: : is displayed, all other messages appear in the reading pane at proper
: : speeds.
: :
: : Thanks again,
: : Bill
: :
: :
: :
: : "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: : ...
: : I'm not sure if I am following you with the archiving. Do you have
dbx
: : files for folders that do not exist in OE's folder tree? Were they
: lost
: : after you compacted? Or did you do something?
: : --
: : Bruce Hagen
: : MS-MVP Outlook Express
: : Imperial Beach, CA
: :
: : "No One" wrote in message
: : . ..
: : I have cleaned up the temp file in IE 7 and restored my right-click
: : options. Thank you.
: :
: : I have a huge archive of old mail dating back to 1999. Each year
is
: : archived in a separate folder, named archive/past years/2006/inbox
: for
: : example. In addition, in the archive folder I have an inbox folder
: for
: : the current year that I move messages into regularly from the
: everyday
: : inbox. Ditto for sent messages. So the daily inbox and sent
messages
: : folders remain small.
: :
: : This problem began after a compacting. I have copies of the
folders
: on
: : another computer, so I tried deleting all but one message from all
: the
: : past years with no help. Up til this problem started my archive
: method
: : has been working great for 8 years. Any other ideas? Is there a
way
: to
: : have OR rebuild the indexes and so on if I copy the backup copied
of
: : inbox(1), inbox(2) and so on back into my store directory?
: :
: : Thanks again,
: : Bill
: :
: :
: : "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Problem #2:
: :
: : For IE6:
: :
: : Clear the Temporary Internet Files: In IE | Tools | Internet
Options
: |
: : Delete Files button. And check the box to Delete Offline content.
: :
: : For IE7:
: :
: : Tools | Internet Options | General Tab | Browsing History | Delete
: : Temporary Internet Files.
: :
: : Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
: : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978
: :
: : Problem #1. May just need some tidying up.
: :
: : General precautions for Outlook Express:
: :
: : Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
: become
: : corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and
: move
: : your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
: : created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
: : feasible.
: :
: : After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually
: while
: : working *offline* and do it often.
: :
: : Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders
: are
: : open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in
: the
: : Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
: anything
: : until the compacting is completed.
: :
: : Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a
: redundant
: : layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
: problems
: : such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V
: : program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
: : http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
: :
: : In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
: background
: : and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
: :
: : And backup often.
: :
: : Backup & Resto
: : http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
: :
: : This is a great two click program:
: :
: : Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
: : http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
: : --
: : Bruce Hagen
: : MS-MVP Outlook Express
: : Imperial Beach, CA
: :
: : "No One" wrote in message
: : . ..
: : Hi everyone ...
: :
: : I have two problems with OE6 on Windows XP SP2.
: :
: : For some reason, it now takes about 30 seconds to display the
first
: : message. The messages download fine, but when it gets ready to
: display
: : it the system appears to just hang for almost 30 seconds, with no
: : network activity. Once it's displayed that first message, other
: : messages appear quickly as they should.
: :
: : Second problem is right-click to "Save As ..." I no longer get
any
: : options except to save it as "untitled.bmp", which I can rename,
: but
: : I'm trying to save .jpg images. If I click on the paperclip and
: select
: : Save Attachments it presents me with the correct filename and
: extension
: : to save it to. I want to restore my right-click ability to save
it
: as
: : named and as type.
: :
: : Thanks for any guidance here.
: :
: : Bill Stewart
: : Cape Coral, FL
: :
: :
: :
: : --
: :
: : ====================
: : JUST IN FROM MEXICO:
: :
: : President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico
will
: not
: : participate in the next Summer Olympics. He said that, "Anyone
who
: can
: : run, jump, or swim has already left the country."
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
:
:
: