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Hello,
I'm using OE6 to access the MS Usenet groups (primarily MS's own servers, news.microsoft.com) and this is the second time this problem has occurred so I'm hoping I can find some help. When I "opened" the newsgroup (vista.general) it seems to have ignored my existing .dbx file and creating a new listing of all messages (losing all my watched and read threads). Looking in the message store location (\D&S\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{very-long-string}\Microsoft\Outlook Express) I see that it has made a new .dbx file. So I now have two: "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general.dbx" and "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general (1).dbx". I closed OE and deleted the new, smaller one (...vista.general(1).dbx) and restarted OE but it didn't seem to make any difference. The original file is still there but the message listing is brand new, and it did not make a new file this time around. All other newsgroups I read are fine and have not experienced this problem. Is there something that would trigger this into happening? Is there any way I can get OE to read the contents of the old .dbx? I'm assuming the contents are still there as the file is close to 20MB. I've been using OE for Usenet for years and have never experienced this before, other than now and about a month ago. TIA, Greg |
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The dbx file with the (1) is the new file. delete the other. If need be,
unsubscribe from the groups and resubscribe after checking that all dbx files have been deleted. Make sure get xxx headers at a time is not checked. But before you do anything, get over to Windows Updates. I'm not sure what your Windows version is, but from your message headers: X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 you are obviously running an outdated and less secure version of OE, and that may be part of the problem. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA "GO" wrote in message ... Hello, I'm using OE6 to access the MS Usenet groups (primarily MS's own servers, news.microsoft.com) and this is the second time this problem has occurred so I'm hoping I can find some help. When I "opened" the newsgroup (vista.general) it seems to have ignored my existing .dbx file and creating a new listing of all messages (losing all my watched and read threads). Looking in the message store location (\D&S\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{very-long-string}\Microsoft\Outlook Express) I see that it has made a new .dbx file. So I now have two: "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general.dbx" and "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general (1).dbx". I closed OE and deleted the new, smaller one (...vista.general(1).dbx) and restarted OE but it didn't seem to make any difference. The original file is still there but the message listing is brand new, and it did not make a new file this time around. All other newsgroups I read are fine and have not experienced this problem. Is there something that would trigger this into happening? Is there any way I can get OE to read the contents of the old .dbx? I'm assuming the contents are still there as the file is close to 20MB. I've been using OE for Usenet for years and have never experienced this before, other than now and about a month ago. TIA, Greg |
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Hi Bruce,
Thanks for the reply. The dbx file with the (1) is the new file. delete the other. If need be, unsubscribe from the groups and resubscribe after checking that all dbx files have been deleted. I've done this and a completely new .dbx has been created. But is there any way to recover and/or read the contents of the original .dbx? Any idea what would trigger this problem? Could something have corrupted the dbx? Is there a file size limit for dbx's? That's the only thing that's similar between the two incidents. They were two different dbx's but both around 20MB in size. Make sure get xxx headers at a time is not checked. I'm not sure what this will accomplish (other than the obvious ![]() this feature checked since I've started using OE. What is the benefit of doing this, or what is the problem caused by leaving it checked? But before you do anything, get over to Windows Updates. I'm not sure what your Windows version is, but from your message headers: X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 you are obviously running an outdated and less secure version of OE, and that may be part of the problem. Yeah, I'm aware OE is not up to date and unfortunately will have to remain that way (the updates breaks several things in OE). I am running Win2k and other than that my system is up to date as far as security patches. OE is locked down sufficiently that I have no fear of being comprimised. I can't see this as causing the problem though as I would have encountered it much sooner. Thanks again, Greg "GO" wrote in message ... Hello, I'm using OE6 to access the MS Usenet groups (primarily MS's own servers, news.microsoft.com) and this is the second time this problem has occurred so I'm hoping I can find some help. When I "opened" the newsgroup (vista.general) it seems to have ignored my existing .dbx file and creating a new listing of all messages (losing all my watched and read threads). Looking in the message store location (\D&S\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{very-long-string}\Microsoft\Outlook Express) I see that it has made a new .dbx file. So I now have two: "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general.dbx" and "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general (1).dbx". I closed OE and deleted the new, smaller one (...vista.general(1).dbx) and restarted OE but it didn't seem to make any difference. The original file is still there but the message listing is brand new, and it did not make a new file this time around. All other newsgroups I read are fine and have not experienced this problem. Is there something that would trigger this into happening? Is there any way I can get OE to read the contents of the old .dbx? I'm assuming the contents are still there as the file is close to 20MB. I've been using OE for Usenet for years and have never experienced this before, other than now and about a month ago. TIA, Greg |
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"GO" wrote in message ... Hi Bruce, Thanks for the reply. I've done this and a completely new .dbx has been created. But is there any way to recover and/or read the contents of the original .dbx? Any idea what would trigger this problem? Could something have corrupted the dbx? Is there a file size limit for dbx's? That's the only thing that's similar between the two incidents. They were two different dbx's but both around 20MB in size. You /were/ talking about newsgroups. correct? OE only mirrors what is on the server, so there is nothing to recover in the normal sense. Tools | Options | Read. Uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time. Then, right click on the newsgroup in the Folder Tree | Properties | Local File | Reset. Switch to another folder and then back and all available messages will be downloaded again. It would be a good idea to compact your folders when you're done. Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until the compacting is completed. Make sure get xxx headers at a time is not checked. I'm not sure what this will accomplish (other than the obvious ![]() had this feature checked since I've started using OE. What is the benefit of doing this, or what is the problem caused by leaving it checked? You will get all messages currently on the server. If you want to limit the ammount: If you want to download newsgroups, but don't want hundreds, or thousands, of messages, you can create a message rule such as this: Tools | Message Rules | News. Box 1: Where the message was sent more than days ago Box 2: Delete it & Stop processing more rules Box 3: Click on "Days" and choose the # of days you want. Name the rule. In Tools | Options | Read - Uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time. When you go to, or subscribe to a newsgroup, it will only download the messages for the number of days you selected. Opinions on this vary, but in Tools | Accounts | News | Properties | General, I have Include this account when checking for new messages checked. When OE automatically checks for mail, (however often you have it set for), it will also download any new news messages at the same time. But before you do anything, get over to Windows Updates. I'm not sure what your Windows version is, but from your message headers: X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 you are obviously running an outdated and less secure version of OE, and that may be part of the problem. Yeah, I'm aware OE is not up to date and unfortunately will have to remain that way (the updates breaks several things in OE). I am running Win2k and other than that my system is up to date as far as security patches. OE is locked down sufficiently that I have no fear of being comprimised. I can't see this as causing the problem though as I would have encountered it much sooner. Look for the obvious. It may not be the cause, but if updates break OE functions, you have two possible remidies. 1: Turn off your anti-virus program when you download and install /anything/. Your AV can prevent a clean install. 2: You may be infested with some type of Hijackware. Courtesy of MVP Robear Dyer (PA Bear): Checking for/Help with Hijackware http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878 http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_R...:_Introduction http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/ http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware When all else fails, HijackThis v1.99.1(http://aumha.net/downloads/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred tool to use. It will help you to both identify and remove any hijackware/spyware. **Post your log to http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, http://castlecops.com/forum67.html, http://forums.subratam.org/index.php?showforum=7, or other appropriate forums for expert analysis, not here.** -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA Thanks again, Greg "GO" wrote in message ... Hello, I'm using OE6 to access the MS Usenet groups (primarily MS's own servers, news.microsoft.com) and this is the second time this problem has occurred so I'm hoping I can find some help. When I "opened" the newsgroup (vista.general) it seems to have ignored my existing .dbx file and creating a new listing of all messages (losing all my watched and read threads). Looking in the message store location (\D&S\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{very-long-string}\Microsoft\Outlook Express) I see that it has made a new .dbx file. So I now have two: "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general.dbx" and "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general (1).dbx". I closed OE and deleted the new, smaller one (...vista.general(1).dbx) and restarted OE but it didn't seem to make any difference. The original file is still there but the message listing is brand new, and it did not make a new file this time around. All other newsgroups I read are fine and have not experienced this problem. Is there something that would trigger this into happening? Is there any way I can get OE to read the contents of the old .dbx? I'm assuming the contents are still there as the file is close to 20MB. I've been using OE for Usenet for years and have never experienced this before, other than now and about a month ago. TIA, Greg |
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Hi Bruce,
Thanks again for your assistance, it's greatly appreciated. I understand what you were getting at now with the "Get XXX headers at a time", that is, to download all the headers again. I was originally thinking that you were saying that this option could be the cause of the problem. But downloading all the headers leads back to my original problem, not that it's a huge deal but it is an annoyance, is that I lose what messages have been read and/or watched. And from what I understand this is being monitored by the .dbx itself. The file is still there and I'm assuming still contains all the original data, I was hoping there was a way to get OE to recognize and/or recover it again. As for my non-updated OE: I realize doing so can put me at a higher risk but I am confident enough that my computer is sufficiently secured and that my safe computer habits will and have kept me malware/virus free (but out of paranoia I still run AV and anti-malware software). And I also don't believe this would be the cause of the problem as I would have seen it a long time ago. And regarding the installation of new softwa This computer my "working" computer is fairly static, ie it rarely gets any new software installed or any other changes. Ultimately I just think it is some hiccup with OE as I subscribe to numerous other newsgroups and it has only happened to two of the .dbx files, both of which are the largest in terms of file sizes, possibly just a coincidence. Bruce Hagen wrote: Inline "GO" wrote in message ... Hi Bruce, Thanks for the reply. I've done this and a completely new .dbx has been created. But is there any way to recover and/or read the contents of the original .dbx? Any idea what would trigger this problem? Could something have corrupted the dbx? Is there a file size limit for dbx's? That's the only thing that's similar between the two incidents. They were two different dbx's but both around 20MB in size. You /were/ talking about newsgroups. correct? OE only mirrors what is on the server, so there is nothing to recover in the normal sense. Tools | Options | Read. Uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time. Then, right click on the newsgroup in the Folder Tree | Properties | Local File | Reset. Switch to another folder and then back and all available messages will be downloaded again. It would be a good idea to compact your folders when you're done. Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until the compacting is completed. Make sure get xxx headers at a time is not checked. I'm not sure what this will accomplish (other than the obvious ![]() I've had this feature checked since I've started using OE. What is the benefit of doing this, or what is the problem caused by leaving it checked? You will get all messages currently on the server. If you want to limit the ammount: If you want to download newsgroups, but don't want hundreds, or thousands, of messages, you can create a message rule such as this: Tools | Message Rules | News. Box 1: Where the message was sent more than days ago Box 2: Delete it & Stop processing more rules Box 3: Click on "Days" and choose the # of days you want. Name the rule. In Tools | Options | Read - Uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time. When you go to, or subscribe to a newsgroup, it will only download the messages for the number of days you selected. Opinions on this vary, but in Tools | Accounts | News | Properties | General, I have Include this account when checking for new messages checked. When OE automatically checks for mail, (however often you have it set for), it will also download any new news messages at the same time. But before you do anything, get over to Windows Updates. I'm not sure what your Windows version is, but from your message headers: X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 you are obviously running an outdated and less secure version of OE, and that may be part of the problem. Yeah, I'm aware OE is not up to date and unfortunately will have to remain that way (the updates breaks several things in OE). I am running Win2k and other than that my system is up to date as far as security patches. OE is locked down sufficiently that I have no fear of being comprimised. I can't see this as causing the problem though as I would have encountered it much sooner. Look for the obvious. It may not be the cause, but if updates break OE functions, you have two possible remidies. 1: Turn off your anti-virus program when you download and install /anything/. Your AV can prevent a clean install. 2: You may be infested with some type of Hijackware. Courtesy of MVP Robear Dyer (PA Bear): Checking for/Help with Hijackware http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878 http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_R...:_Introduction http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/ http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware When all else fails, HijackThis v1.99.1(http://aumha.net/downloads/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred tool to use. It will help you to both identify and remove any hijackware/spyware. **Post your log to http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, http://castlecops.com/forum67.html, http://forums.subratam.org/index.php?showforum=7, or other appropriate forums for expert analysis, not here.** Thanks again, Greg "GO" wrote in message ... Hello, I'm using OE6 to access the MS Usenet groups (primarily MS's own servers, news.microsoft.com) and this is the second time this problem has occurred so I'm hoping I can find some help. When I "opened" the newsgroup (vista.general) it seems to have ignored my existing .dbx file and creating a new listing of all messages (losing all my watched and read threads). Looking in the message store location (\D&S\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{very-long-string}\Microsoft\Outlook Express) I see that it has made a new .dbx file. So I now have two: "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general.dbx" and "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general (1).dbx". I closed OE and deleted the new, smaller one (...vista.general(1).dbx) and restarted OE but it didn't seem to make any difference. The original file is still there but the message listing is brand new, and it did not make a new file this time around. All other newsgroups I read are fine and have not experienced this problem. Is there something that would trigger this into happening? Is there any way I can get OE to read the contents of the old .dbx? I'm assuming the contents are still there as the file is close to 20MB. I've been using OE for Usenet for years and have never experienced this before, other than now and about a month ago. TIA, Greg |
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From this reply, do you realize that once messages are removed from the
server, they will not be viewable by you unless you saved them to a user created local folder? I /believe/ the current retention for MSNews is 90 days using OE as your newsreader. IOW, if you reset, sync, or whatever, anything over the retention number of days will be lost. Does this shed any light on your current problem? -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA "GO" wrote in message ... Hi Bruce, Thanks again for your assistance, it's greatly appreciated. I understand what you were getting at now with the "Get XXX headers at a time", that is, to download all the headers again. I was originally thinking that you were saying that this option could be the cause of the problem. But downloading all the headers leads back to my original problem, not that it's a huge deal but it is an annoyance, is that I lose what messages have been read and/or watched. And from what I understand this is being monitored by the .dbx itself. The file is still there and I'm assuming still contains all the original data, I was hoping there was a way to get OE to recognize and/or recover it again. As for my non-updated OE: I realize doing so can put me at a higher risk but I am confident enough that my computer is sufficiently secured and that my safe computer habits will and have kept me malware/virus free (but out of paranoia I still run AV and anti-malware software). And I also don't believe this would be the cause of the problem as I would have seen it a long time ago. And regarding the installation of new softwa This computer my "working" computer is fairly static, ie it rarely gets any new software installed or any other changes. Ultimately I just think it is some hiccup with OE as I subscribe to numerous other newsgroups and it has only happened to two of the .dbx files, both of which are the largest in terms of file sizes, possibly just a coincidence. Bruce Hagen wrote: Inline "GO" wrote in message ... Hi Bruce, Thanks for the reply. I've done this and a completely new .dbx has been created. But is there any way to recover and/or read the contents of the original .dbx? Any idea what would trigger this problem? Could something have corrupted the dbx? Is there a file size limit for dbx's? That's the only thing that's similar between the two incidents. They were two different dbx's but both around 20MB in size. You /were/ talking about newsgroups. correct? OE only mirrors what is on the server, so there is nothing to recover in the normal sense. Tools | Options | Read. Uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time. Then, right click on the newsgroup in the Folder Tree | Properties | Local File | Reset. Switch to another folder and then back and all available messages will be downloaded again. It would be a good idea to compact your folders when you're done. Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until the compacting is completed. Make sure get xxx headers at a time is not checked. I'm not sure what this will accomplish (other than the obvious ![]() I've had this feature checked since I've started using OE. What is the benefit of doing this, or what is the problem caused by leaving it checked? You will get all messages currently on the server. If you want to limit the ammount: If you want to download newsgroups, but don't want hundreds, or thousands, of messages, you can create a message rule such as this: Tools | Message Rules | News. Box 1: Where the message was sent more than days ago Box 2: Delete it & Stop processing more rules Box 3: Click on "Days" and choose the # of days you want. Name the rule. In Tools | Options | Read - Uncheck: Get XXX headers at a time. When you go to, or subscribe to a newsgroup, it will only download the messages for the number of days you selected. Opinions on this vary, but in Tools | Accounts | News | Properties | General, I have Include this account when checking for new messages checked. When OE automatically checks for mail, (however often you have it set for), it will also download any new news messages at the same time. But before you do anything, get over to Windows Updates. I'm not sure what your Windows version is, but from your message headers: X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 you are obviously running an outdated and less secure version of OE, and that may be part of the problem. Yeah, I'm aware OE is not up to date and unfortunately will have to remain that way (the updates breaks several things in OE). I am running Win2k and other than that my system is up to date as far as security patches. OE is locked down sufficiently that I have no fear of being comprimised. I can't see this as causing the problem though as I would have encountered it much sooner. Look for the obvious. It may not be the cause, but if updates break OE functions, you have two possible remidies. 1: Turn off your anti-virus program when you download and install /anything/. Your AV can prevent a clean install. 2: You may be infested with some type of Hijackware. Courtesy of MVP Robear Dyer (PA Bear): Checking for/Help with Hijackware http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878 http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_R...:_Introduction http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/ http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware When all else fails, HijackThis v1.99.1(http://aumha.net/downloads/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred tool to use. It will help you to both identify and remove any hijackware/spyware. **Post your log to http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, http://castlecops.com/forum67.html, http://forums.subratam.org/index.php?showforum=7, or other appropriate forums for expert analysis, not here.** Thanks again, Greg "GO" wrote in message ... Hello, I'm using OE6 to access the MS Usenet groups (primarily MS's own servers, news.microsoft.com) and this is the second time this problem has occurred so I'm hoping I can find some help. When I "opened" the newsgroup (vista.general) it seems to have ignored my existing .dbx file and creating a new listing of all messages (losing all my watched and read threads). Looking in the message store location (\D&S\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{very-long-string}\Microsoft\Outlook Express) I see that it has made a new .dbx file. So I now have two: "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general.dbx" and "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general (1).dbx". I closed OE and deleted the new, smaller one (...vista.general(1).dbx) and restarted OE but it didn't seem to make any difference. The original file is still there but the message listing is brand new, and it did not make a new file this time around. All other newsgroups I read are fine and have not experienced this problem. Is there something that would trigger this into happening? Is there any way I can get OE to read the contents of the old .dbx? I'm assuming the contents are still there as the file is close to 20MB. I've been using OE for Usenet for years and have never experienced this before, other than now and about a month ago. TIA, Greg |
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"GO" schreef in bericht ... Hello, I'm using OE6 to access the MS Usenet groups (primarily MS's own servers, news.microsoft.com) and this is the second time this problem has occurred so I'm hoping I can find some help. When I "opened" the newsgroup (vista.general) it seems to have ignored my existing .dbx file and creating a new listing of all messages (losing all my watched and read threads). Looking in the message store location (\D&S\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{very-long-string}\Microsoft\Outlook Express) I see that it has made a new .dbx file. So I now have two: "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general.dbx" and "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general (1).dbx". I closed OE and deleted the new, smaller one (...vista.general(1).dbx) and restarted OE but it didn't seem to make any difference. The original file is still there but the message listing is brand new, and it did not make a new file this time around. All other newsgroups I read are fine and have not experienced this problem. Is there something that would trigger this into happening? Is there any way I can get OE to read the contents of the old .dbx? I'm assuming the contents are still there as the file is close to 20MB. I've been using OE for Usenet for years and have never experienced this before, other than now and about a month ago. TIA, Greg |
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My "Find" option on Outlok oesn't work. Please, tell me what to do. HP will
not help and the Outlok fix did not work either. Please. assist -- -- I hate outsourcing. Jobs for Americans first and foremost. "GO" wrote: Hello, I'm using OE6 to access the MS Usenet groups (primarily MS's own servers, news.microsoft.com) and this is the second time this problem has occurred so I'm hoping I can find some help. When I "opened" the newsgroup (vista.general) it seems to have ignored my existing .dbx file and creating a new listing of all messages (losing all my watched and read threads). Looking in the message store location (\D&S\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{very-long-string}\Microsoft\Outlook Express) I see that it has made a new .dbx file. So I now have two: "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general.dbx" and "microsoft.public.windows.vista.general (1).dbx". I closed OE and deleted the new, smaller one (...vista.general(1).dbx) and restarted OE but it didn't seem to make any difference. The original file is still there but the message listing is brand new, and it did not make a new file this time around. All other newsgroups I read are fine and have not experienced this problem. Is there something that would trigger this into happening? Is there any way I can get OE to read the contents of the old .dbx? I'm assuming the contents are still there as the file is close to 20MB. I've been using OE for Usenet for years and have never experienced this before, other than now and about a month ago. TIA, Greg |
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