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Old September 19th 07, 01:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.msn.discussion,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
...winston
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Default Hotmail

No...grandfathered accounts maintained access via OE and OL but not the
Pop3 option.

The only accounts that provide pop3 retrieval are fee based accounts or
sub-accounts of an msn.com subscription(dial up/dsl).

A free hotmail account and a grandfathered hotmail/msn.com
account(grandpa's account still accessible in OE, OL or Windows Live
Mail) have this notice in the options for gaining access to pop3
accounts.
" To receive mail from other accounts without POP3 access, go to your
other account and set up automatic forwarding"
Note: Without Pop3 access means that the hotmail account does not
provide pop3 access(i.e. requires a Plus fee based account which is
enabled once the $20 annual payment is validated).

--
...winston
MS-MVP Windows Live Mail

"someone" wrote in message
...
Except for those who were "grandfathered" in. I don't recall the
cut-off date.

"mae" wrote in message
...
Approx. June 2002, they stopped that service for free accounts and
required a
paid subscription.
--
mae

"TNRoadHog" wrote in message
...
| Thanks all of you for your responses but I still believe that
hotmail can be
| configured to accept non hotmail accounts having previously seen an
article
| describing the process (Cannot locate the source). What happened
prior to
| Live hotmail?
|
| "...winston" wrote:
|
| Hotmail Plus provides the ability to access other pop3 accounts
provided
| those accounts permit pop3 access.
| The Pop3 option is only available after confirmation of payment
for the
| Live Hotmail Plus account.
|
| If SSL is required, it is suggested that the Hotmail account be
| converted, if not already done, to a Live Hotmail account
especially if
| a different incoming port number(besides 110) and SSL
| connection/encryption are required.
|
| ...winston
| MS-MVP Windows Live Mail
|
|
| "PA Bear" wrote in message
| ...
| Forwarded to MSN Discussion newsgroup via crosspost.
|
| Hotmail Plus *might* include POP3 forwarding.
|
| If you're running WinXP or Vista, you can access your Hotmail
and POP3
| accounts in Windows Live Mail (still in beta):
| http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) since 2002
| AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net; DTS-L http://dts-l.org/
|
|
| TNRoadHog wrote:
| How do I configure hotmail to accept messages from a non
hotmail
| server,
| pop-server.triad.rr.com?
|
|
|
|




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Old September 19th 07, 01:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.msn.discussion,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
...winston
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Default Hotmail

Kind of .. The terminology and history can get confusing and run on
top of each other.

Hotmail becomes Windows Live Hotmail

Windows Live Mail is a new free email client from Msft that is an
alternative to OE, OL and Vista's Windows Mail capable of both http and
pop3 retrieval unlike OE and OL which only provides pop3 and fee based
http access, and unlike Vista's client which only is pop3 capable. A
separate download and install is required to obtain Windows Live Mail
i.e. it is not a conversion based. Installation of Windows Live Mail in
XP or Vista will replace the shortcuts(startmenu, orb menu, programs
menu) for OE or Windows Mail.

At one time Hotmail free had a pop3 retrieval option that was later on
available in fee based pop3 accounts. Hotmail Classic's interface for a
fee based http account provided pop3 retrieval but was limited to port
110 and without SSL security encryption. Windows Live Hotmail's
interface when used with a fee based http account provides pop3
retrieval with the option to manually configure the port and SSL
settings.

The user apparently found a way to forward mail to overcome the
shortcomings of the free Hotmail interface.
...winston
MS-MVP Windows Live Mail

"Earle Horton" wrote in message
...
We're all getting older. ;^) I too "remember" having previously read
articles that I can never find later.

Afaik, Hotmail is turning into Windows Live Mail, or Live Hotmail,
whatever
they want to call it, which can harvest mail from pop3 accounts. If
yours
hasn't converted yet, there should be a button offering to do it for
you.

Saludos,

Earle


  #13  
Old September 19th 07, 04:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.msn.discussion,microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Earle Horton
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Posts: 8
Default Hotmail

Gotcha. My online mail is now called "Qwest Mail by Windows Live". This
does seem to overlap a bit with "Windows Live Mail".

Cheers,

Earle

"...winston" wrote in message
...
Kind of .. The terminology and history can get confusing and run on
top of each other.

Hotmail becomes Windows Live Hotmail

Windows Live Mail is a new free email client from Msft that is an
alternative to OE, OL and Vista's Windows Mail capable of both http and
pop3 retrieval unlike OE and OL which only provides pop3 and fee based
http access, and unlike Vista's client which only is pop3 capable. A
separate download and install is required to obtain Windows Live Mail
i.e. it is not a conversion based. Installation of Windows Live Mail in
XP or Vista will replace the shortcuts(startmenu, orb menu, programs
menu) for OE or Windows Mail.

At one time Hotmail free had a pop3 retrieval option that was later on
available in fee based pop3 accounts. Hotmail Classic's interface for a
fee based http account provided pop3 retrieval but was limited to port
110 and without SSL security encryption. Windows Live Hotmail's
interface when used with a fee based http account provides pop3
retrieval with the option to manually configure the port and SSL
settings.

The user apparently found a way to forward mail to overcome the
shortcomings of the free Hotmail interface.
...winston
MS-MVP Windows Live Mail

"Earle Horton" wrote in message
...
We're all getting older. ;^) I too "remember" having previously read
articles that I can never find later.

Afaik, Hotmail is turning into Windows Live Mail, or Live Hotmail,
whatever
they want to call it, which can harvest mail from pop3 accounts. If
yours
hasn't converted yet, there should be a button offering to do it for
you.

Saludos,

Earle




 




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