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On Nov 6, 9:33 am, "PA Bear" wrote:
wrote: On Oct 22, 5:05 am, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote: ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior: If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell me so. Thanks. PA Bear, I have the same problem and am running Windows Defender. Put together this summary for your information: I have been experiencing a range of 'cannot display folder/message' for about two months. Have searched the web for a solution without success; this site seems to offer the most pertinent information aong with the promise that the 'fix' will be psoted here when found. My computer specs are XP Home SP2 with all updates, dual core CPU, 2 GB RAM, two 250 GB HDs, Vista/DX10 compatible video card all of which makes a mockery of the warnings I get about low disk space and memory as a likely cause of this problem. I have tried most of the suggestions mentioned on this and other web sites, new identity, compacting folders offline and reducing large folders by moving emails, etc without any success. My latest and most drastic experiment was as follows: I closed OE6, moved all the mail folders (dbx files) to another folder and re-opened OE6 which gave me a pristine set of default folders. When some mail arrived and I replied to a few messages it wasnotlong before the 'display' problem occurred again! A friend suggested I use Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express so installed the latest version and, after some fiddling with Gmail settings, got it working but I have to say I much prefer Outlook Express and thus returned to the quest for a 'fix' to this current frustrating problem. Was using AVG-Free antivirus - email scanning disabled - now trying Avast with no change to the 'cannot display' situation. Read somewhere that lack of 'resources' is often the cause of strange behaviour with some programs so I opened Task Manager and, on the Processes tab, added columns for Handles, User Objects and GDI Objects.Notbeing a Windows programmer I don't know what these terms mean but I can understand numbers and when, say, the Handles used by msimn.exe rises to 55,000+ and the next highest number is 1,500 (svchost.exe) I am left wondering if just maybe this is an area worth investigating? The current Task Manager figures for my Outlook Express and Thunderbird (just for comparison) a Comparing OE6 and Thunderbird2: Mem Usage 42 MB 24MB VM Usage 16MB 15MB Handles 55,421 189 User Objects 135 61 GDI Objects 229 96 With only the default mail folders, with 22 emails in the Inbox and 1 in Drafts, restarting OE6 reduced the Handles figure to 374, User Objects to 112 and GDI objects to 172. By the way, when the "Cannot display...'messageoccurs now I can restore normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return to the Inbox where previously I would have to close and re-open OE6 or sometimes reboot the computer. Hope this is of some help and that Microsoft, or somebody somewhere resolves this problem in the near future!!!! [OE's got a wry sense of humor: When I tried to reply to your post, I got that d*** error again!] If you read through the posts to this thread, you'll find that nothing you've mentioned (i.e., Defender; anti-virus app installed; computer specs) appears to be the cause of the behavior. What the size of your entiremessagestore folder (http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)? ...By the way, when the "Cannot display...'messageoccurs now I can restore normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return to the Inbox... Doesn't fix it here, and I suspect that, for you, it's only a temporary fix. I've had OE up and running for well over 24 hours (using it almost constantly while I'm awake) before encountering the behavior. Conversely, I've seen the behavior occur several times in 1 hour or less. sigh Again, if and when a resolution is found, I'll post about it in this thread. Thanks for adding yourself to the every-growing list of sufferers, which certainly doesNOTappear to include all OE/WinXP SP2 users. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.org/ Thanks for the quick response. My current Mail Folder is 3,79 MBs (The stuff I moved out of that folder to C:\Backup is 666 MBs). And yes, I know many people with XP who do NOT have this problem. Weird! JackR |
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On Nov 7, 3:21 am, "PA Bear" wrote:
wrote: On Nov 6, 9:33 am, "PA Bear" wrote: wrote: On Oct 22, 5:05 am, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote: ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior: If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell me so. Thanks. PA Bear, I have the same problem and am running Windows Defender. Put together this summary for your information: I have been experiencing a range of 'cannot display folder/message' for about two months. Have searched the web for a solution without success; this site seems to offer the most pertinent information aong with the promise that the 'fix' will be psoted here when found. My computer specs are XP Home SP2 with all updates, dual core CPU, 2 GB RAM, two 250 GB HDs, Vista/DX10 compatible video card all of which makes a mockery of the warnings I get about low disk space and memory as a likely cause of this problem. I have tried most of the suggestions mentioned on this and other web sites, new identity, compacting folders offline and reducing large folders by moving emails, etc without any success. My latest and most drastic experiment was as follows: I closed OE6, moved all the mail folders (dbx files) to another folder and re-opened OE6 which gave me a pristine set of default folders. When some mail arrived and I replied to a few messages it wasnotlong before the 'display' problem occurred again! A friend suggested I use Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express so installed the latest version and, after some fiddling with Gmail settings, got it working but I have to say I much prefer Outlook Express and thus returned to the quest for a 'fix' to this current frustrating problem. Was using AVG-Free antivirus - email scanning disabled - now trying Avast with no change to the 'cannot display' situation. Read somewhere that lack of 'resources' is often the cause of strange behaviour with some programs so I opened Task Manager and, on the Processes tab, added columns for Handles, User Objects and GDI Objects.Notbeing a Windows programmer I don't know what these terms mean but I can understand numbers and when, say, the Handles used by msimn.exe rises to 55,000+ and the next highest number is 1,500 (svchost.exe) I am left wondering if just maybe this is an area worth investigating? The current Task Manager figures for my Outlook Express and Thunderbird (just for comparison) a Comparing OE6 and Thunderbird2: Mem Usage 42 MB 24MB VM Usage 16MB 15MB Handles 55,421 189 User Objects 135 61 GDI Objects 229 96 With only the default mail folders, with 22 emails in the Inbox and 1 in Drafts, restarting OE6 reduced the Handles figure to 374, User Objects to 112 and GDI objects to 172. By the way, when the "Cannot display...'messageoccurs now I can restore normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return to the Inbox where previously I would have to close and re-open OE6 or sometimes reboot the computer. Hope this is of some help and that Microsoft, or somebody somewhere resolves this problem in the near future!!!! [OE's got a wry sense of humor: When I tried to reply to your post, I got that d*** error again!] If you read through the posts to this thread, you'll find that nothing you've mentioned (i.e., Defender; anti-virus app installed; computer specs) appears to be the cause of the behavior. What the size of your entiremessagestore folder (http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)? ...By the way, when the "Cannot display...'messageoccurs now I can restore normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return to the Inbox... Doesn't fix it here, and I suspect that, for you, it's only a temporary fix. I've had OE up and running for well over 24 hours (using it almost constantly while I'm awake) before encountering the behavior. Conversely, I've seen the behavior occur several times in 1 hour or less. sigh Again, if and when a resolution is found, I'll post about it in this thread. Thanks for adding yourself to the every-growing list of sufferers, which certainly doesNOTappear to include all OE/WinXP SP2 users. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.org/ Thanks for the quick response. My current Mail Folder is 3,79 MBs (The stuff I moved out of that folder to C:\Backup is 666 MBs). And yes, I know many people with XP who do NOT have this problem. That's an OK size for your store. -- ~PA Bear Hi PA Bear, Yesterday I tried to send you an update but can't see it here so had better repeat it just in case! I was able to induce the 'cannot display' condition as follows: An incoming email with small picture tiled vertically down left side and enough text to produce a smallish scroll bar on the right. Using the mouse scroll wheel, scroll up/down madly for a while and then see if you can select another email. I 'exited' the problem condition via End Process in Task Manager. Repeated this several times and noted 'handles' number over 20,000 when 'cannot display' occurred. Today I reformatted and reinstalled XP and so far OE6 has not put a foot wrong. JackR |
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snip Hi PA Bear, Yesterday I tried to send you an update but can't see it here so had better repeat it just in case! I was able to induce the 'cannot display' condition as follows: An incoming email with small picture tiled vertically down left side and enough text to produce a smallish scroll bar on the right. Using the mouse scroll wheel, scroll up/down madly for a while and then see if you can select another email. I 'exited' the problem condition via End Process in Task Manager. Repeated this several times and noted 'handles' number over 20,000 when 'cannot display' occurred. Today I reformatted and reinstalled XP and so far OE6 has not put a foot wrong. JackR Is the machine currently fully patched at Windows Update? Another fellow suffer did a wipe & reload, got the machine fully patched, and encountered the same problem shortly thereafter. NB: This does NOT necessarily mean that one or more updates is the cause of the problem. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.org/ |
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On Nov 9, 2:13 am, "PA Bear" wrote:
wrote: snip Hi PA Bear, Yesterday I tried to send you an update but can't see it here so had better repeat it just in case! I was able to induce the 'cannot display' condition as follows: An incoming email with small picture tiled vertically down left side and enough text to produce a smallish scroll bar on the right. Using the mouse scroll wheel, scroll up/down madly for a while and then see if you can select another email. I 'exited' the problem condition via End Process in Task Manager. Repeated this several times and noted 'handles' number over 20,000 when 'cannot display' occurred. Today I reformatted and reinstalled XP and so far OE6 has not put a foot wrong. JackR Is the machine currently fully patched at Windows Update? Another fellow suffer did a wipe & reload, got the machine fully patched, and encountered the same problem shortly thereafter. NB: This does NOT necessarily mean that one or more updates is the cause of the problem. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.org/ Just got 4 more High Priority updates, incl IE7. THere might be one more to come, something about KB892130 on the summary screen. That makes about 80 updates installed yesterday and today. Have to reboot so will do so and then check OE6 as best I can before replying to your query. Did my 'inducing' exercise but could not get a result - can select other folders and emails without any 'cannot display' messges appearing. The number of 'handles' for msimn.exe remained constant at 266. JackR |
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![]() a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion : ... On Nov 7, 3:21 am, "PA Bear" wrote: wrote: On Nov 6, 9:33 am, "PA Bear" wrote: wrote: On Oct 22, 5:05 am, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote: ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior: If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell me so. Thanks. PA Bear, I have the same problem and am running Windows Defender. Put together this summary for your information: I have been experiencing a range of 'cannot display folder/message' for about two months. Have searched the web for a solution without success; this site seems to offer the most pertinent information aong with the promise that the 'fix' will be psoted here when found. My computer specs are XP Home SP2 with all updates, dual core CPU, 2 GB RAM, two 250 GB HDs, Vista/DX10 compatible video card all of which makes a mockery of the warnings I get about low disk space and memory as a likely cause of this problem. I have tried most of the suggestions mentioned on this and other web sites, new identity, compacting folders offline and reducing large folders by moving emails, etc without any success. My latest and most drastic experiment was as follows: I closed OE6, moved all the mail folders (dbx files) to another folder and re-opened OE6 which gave me a pristine set of default folders. When some mail arrived and I replied to a few messages it wasnotlong before the 'display' problem occurred again! A friend suggested I use Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express so installed the latest version and, after some fiddling with Gmail settings, got it working but I have to say I much prefer Outlook Express and thus returned to the quest for a 'fix' to this current frustrating problem. Was using AVG-Free antivirus - email scanning disabled - now trying Avast with no change to the 'cannot display' situation. Read somewhere that lack of 'resources' is often the cause of strange behaviour with some programs so I opened Task Manager and, on the Processes tab, added columns for Handles, User Objects and GDI Objects.Notbeing a Windows programmer I don't know what these terms mean but I can understand numbers and when, say, the Handles used by msimn.exe rises to 55,000+ and the next highest number is 1,500 (svchost.exe) I am left wondering if just maybe this is an area worth investigating? The current Task Manager figures for my Outlook Express and Thunderbird (just for comparison) a Comparing OE6 and Thunderbird2: Mem Usage 42 MB 24MB VM Usage 16MB 15MB Handles 55,421 189 User Objects 135 61 GDI Objects 229 96 With only the default mail folders, with 22 emails in the Inbox and 1 in Drafts, restarting OE6 reduced the Handles figure to 374, User Objects to 112 and GDI objects to 172. By the way, when the "Cannot display...'messageoccurs now I can restore normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return to the Inbox where previously I would have to close and re-open OE6 or sometimes reboot the computer. Hope this is of some help and that Microsoft, or somebody somewhere resolves this problem in the near future!!!! [OE's got a wry sense of humor: When I tried to reply to your post, I got that d*** error again!] If you read through the posts to this thread, you'll find that nothing you've mentioned (i.e., Defender; anti-virus app installed; computer specs) appears to be the cause of the behavior. What the size of your entiremessagestore folder (http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)? ...By the way, when the "Cannot display...'messageoccurs now I can restore normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return to the Inbox... Doesn't fix it here, and I suspect that, for you, it's only a temporary fix. I've had OE up and running for well over 24 hours (using it almost constantly while I'm awake) before encountering the behavior. Conversely, I've seen the behavior occur several times in 1 hour or less. sigh Again, if and when a resolution is found, I'll post about it in this thread. Thanks for adding yourself to the every-growing list of sufferers, which certainly doesNOTappear to include all OE/WinXP SP2 users. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.org/ Thanks for the quick response. My current Mail Folder is 3,79 MBs (The stuff I moved out of that folder to C:\Backup is 666 MBs). And yes, I know many people with XP who do NOT have this problem. That's an OK size for your store. -- ~PA Bear Hi PA Bear, Yesterday I tried to send you an update but can't see it here so had better repeat it just in case! I was able to induce the 'cannot display' condition as follows: An incoming email with small picture tiled vertically down left side and enough text to produce a smallish scroll bar on the right. Using the mouse scroll wheel, scroll up/down madly for a while and then see if you can select another email. I 'exited' the problem condition via End Process in Task Manager. Repeated this several times and noted 'handles' number over 20,000 when 'cannot display' occurred. Today I reformatted and reinstalled XP and so far OE6 has not put a foot wrong. JackR |
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![]() escribió en el mensaje oups.com... On Nov 9, 2:13 am, "PA Bear" wrote: wrote: snip Hi PA Bear, Yesterday I tried to send you an update but can't see it here so had better repeat it just in case! I was able to induce the 'cannot display' condition as follows: An incoming email with small picture tiled vertically down left side and enough text to produce a smallish scroll bar on the right. Using the mouse scroll wheel, scroll up/down madly for a while and then see if you can select another email. I 'exited' the problem condition via End Process in Task Manager. Repeated this several times and noted 'handles' number over 20,000 when 'cannot display' occurred. Today I reformatted and reinstalled XP and so far OE6 has not put a foot wrong. JackR Is the machine currently fully patched at Windows Update? Another fellow suffer did a wipe & reload, got the machine fully patched, and encountered the same problem shortly thereafter. NB: This does NOT necessarily mean that one or more updates is the cause of the problem. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.org/ Just got 4 more High Priority updates, incl IE7. THere might be one more to come, something about KB892130 on the summary screen. That makes about 80 updates installed yesterday and today. Have to reboot so will do so and then check OE6 as best I can before replying to your query. Did my 'inducing' exercise but could not get a result - can select other folders and emails without any 'cannot display' messges appearing. The number of 'handles' for msimn.exe remained constant at 266. JackR |
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![]() groups.com... On Nov 9, 2:13 am, "PA Bear" wrote: wrote: snip Hi PA Bear, Yesterday I tried to send you an update but can't see it here so had better repeat it just in case! I was able to induce the 'cannot display' condition as follows: An incoming email with small picture tiled vertically down left side and enough text to produce a smallish scroll bar on the right. Using the mouse scroll wheel, scroll up/down madly for a while and then see if you can select another email. I 'exited' the problem condition via End Process in Task Manager. Repeated this several times and noted 'handles' number over 20,000 when 'cannot display' occurred. Today I reformatted and reinstalled XP and so far OE6 has not put a foot wrong. JackR Is the machine currently fully patched at Windows Update? Another fellow suffer did a wipe & reload, got the machine fully patched, and encountered the same problem shortly thereafter. NB: This does NOT necessarily mean that one or more updates is the cause of the problem. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.org/ Just got 4 more High Priority updates, incl IE7. THere might be one more to come, something about KB892130 on the summary screen. That makes about 80 updates installed yesterday and today. Have to reboot so will do so and then check OE6 as best I can before replying to your query. Did my 'inducing' exercise but could not get a result - can select other folders and emails without any 'cannot display' messges appearing. The number of 'handles' for msimn.exe remained constant at 266. JackR |
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On Nov 9, 4:27 pm, wrote:
On Nov 9, 2:13 am, "PA Bear" wrote: wrote: snip Hi PA Bear, Yesterday I tried to send you an update but can't see it here so had better repeat it just in case! I was able to induce the 'cannot display' condition as follows: An incoming email with small picture tiled vertically down left side and enough text to produce a smallish scroll bar on the right. Using the mouse scroll wheel, scroll up/down madly for a while and then see if you can select another email. I 'exited' the problem condition via End Process in Task Manager. Repeated this several times and noted 'handles' number over 20,000 when 'cannot display' occurred. Today I reformatted and reinstalled XP and so far OE6 hasnotput a foot wrong. JackR Is the machine currently fully patched at Windows Update? Another fellow suffer did a wipe & reload, got the machine fully patched, and encountered the same problem shortly thereafter. NB: This doesNOTnecessarily mean that one or more updates is the cause of the problem. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.org/ Just got 4 more High Priority updates, incl IE7. THere might be one more to come, something about KB892130 on the summary screen. That makes about 80 updates installed yesterday and today. Have to reboot so will do so and then check OE6 as best I can before replying to your query. Did my 'inducing' exercise butcouldnotget a result - can select other folders and emails without any 'cannot display' messges appearing. The number of 'handles' for msimn.exe remained constant at 266. JackR Hi PA Bear, Am glad to say that I have not had the 'cannot display' problem since Nov 8 when I reformatted and reinstalled XP Home SP2 (with all 90+ updates). I read sj...'s post that he can induce the problem in the same manner as I could (madly scrolling an HTML email) before my reinstall BUT he goes further and suggests the cause may be McAfee Site Advisor build 2.5. I think he may be on to something in that I had IE6 with McAfee Site Advisor on my computer pre the reinstall and now have IE7 BUT WITHOUT the McAfee SA addon which could explain why I am now free of the OE6 "cannot display" problem. Sure hope sj... is right. BTW I use Firefox, with McAfee Site Advisor, as my default browser. JackR |
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snip Hi PA Bear, Am glad to say that I have not had the 'cannot display' problem since Nov 8 when I reformatted and reinstalled XP Home SP2 (with all 90+ updates). I read sj...'s post that he can induce the problem in the same manner as I could (madly scrolling an HTML email) before my reinstall BUT he goes further and suggests the cause may be McAfee Site Advisor build 2.5. I think he may be on to something in that I had IE6 with McAfee Site Advisor on my computer pre the reinstall and now have IE7 BUT WITHOUT the McAfee SA addon which could explain why I am now free of the OE6 "cannot display" problem. Sure hope sj... is right. BTW I use Firefox, with McAfee Site Advisor, as my default browser. JackR QED: Did you back-up your OE data and then import it into OE after the wipe & reload? -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.org/ |
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