"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Welcome, fellow sufferer!

I have unisnstalled protection software and it seems to alleivate the issue.
Then when I reinstall it comes back.

What "protection software" did you uninstall/reinstall, please? Please be specific and thorough.


Related to this perhaps: are you running as a standard user or as an admin?
If the latter perhaps you should try running under DropMyRights at least?
(or vice versa. w)


Good luck

Robert
---


--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.org/


Peter wrote:
I am glad to see I too am not the only one having this issue and it seems to
be fairly recent that this has occurred. Recent to the point, that I think
this occurred around an update of some sort with in the last 2 months. I get
the same error message, Can't open, low memory, low disk space.

I have unisnstalled protection software and it seems to alleivate the issue.
Then when I reinstall it comes back. Very frustrating. Only way around it so
far is to close OE and open up again. Then it will work for a time and ...
same issue. Very frustrated.
snip

McAfee

"PA Bear" wrote:

Welcome, fellow sufferer!

I have unisnstalled protection software and it seems to alleivate the
issue.
Then when I reinstall it comes back.

What "protection software" did you uninstall/reinstall, please? Please be
specific and thorough.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.org/


Peter wrote:
I am glad to see I too am not the only one having this issue and it seems
to
be fairly recent that this has occurred. Recent to the point, that I think
this occurred around an update of some sort with in the last 2 months. I
get
the same error message, Can't open, low memory, low disk space.

I have unisnstalled protection software and it seems to alleivate the
issue.
Then when I reinstall it comes back. Very frustrating. Only way around it
so
far is to close OE and open up again. Then it will work for a time and ...
same issue. Very frustrated.
snip

That's not very specific, Peter. McAfee VirusScan, McAfeeVirusScan Plus,
McAfee Internet Security, McAfee Security Center, or...?

How long did you run OE with "McAfee" uninstalled? Did you also run the
McAfee Consumer Removal Tool2 [sic]? Did you install another anti-virus
application (and third-party firewall, if applicable) temporarily? If so,
did you uninstall it/them before reinstalling "McAfee"?

Did you purchase this McAfee application or is it a freebie provided by your
ISP?
--
~PA Bear

Peter wrote:
McAfee
"PA Bear" wrote:

Welcome, fellow sufferer!

I have unisnstalled protection software and it seems to alleivate the
issue.
Then when I reinstall it comes back.

What "protection software" did you uninstall/reinstall, please? Please
be
specific and thorough.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.org/


Peter wrote:
I am glad to see I too am not the only one having this issue and it
seems
to
be fairly recent that this has occurred. Recent to the point, that I
think
this occurred around an update of some sort with in the last 2 months. I
get
the same error message, Can't open, low memory, low disk space.

I have unisnstalled protection software and it seems to alleivate the
issue.
Then when I reinstall it comes back. Very frustrating. Only way around
it
so
far is to close OE and open up again. Then it will work for a time and
...
same issue. Very frustrated.
snip

"Peter" wrote in message
...
McAfee

"PA Bear" wrote:

Welcome, fellow sufferer!

I have unisnstalled protection software and it seems to alleivate the
issue.
Then when I reinstall it comes back.

What "protection software" did you uninstall/reinstall, please? Please
be
specific and thorough.


Uninstall McAfee and replace it with Avast!. Do a Custom install and don't
install email scanning.

--
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
www.fjsmjs.com
Do not send email

On Oct 22, 5:05 am, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:
ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior:
If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell
me so. Thanks.

PA Bear,
I have the same problem and am running Windows Defender. Put together
this summary for your information:
I have been experiencing a range of 'cannot display folder/message'
for about two months. Have searched the web for a
solution without success; this site seems to offer the most pertinent
information aong with the promise that the 'fix' will be
psoted here when found.
My computer specs are XP Home SP2 with all updates, dual core CPU, 2
GB RAM, two 250 GB HDs, Vista/DX10 compatible video
card all of which makes a mockery of the warnings I get about low
disk space and memory as a likely cause of this problem.
I have tried most of the suggestions mentioned on this and other web
sites, new identity, compacting folders offline and reducing large
folders by moving emails, etc without any success. My latest and most
drastic experiment was as follows: I closed OE6, moved all the mail
folders (dbx files) to another folder and re-opened OE6 which gave me
a pristine set of default folders. When some mail arrived and I
replied to a few messages it was not long before the 'display' problem
occurred again!
A friend suggested I use Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express so
installed the latest version and, after some fiddling with
Gmail settings, got it working but I have to say I much prefer Outlook
Express and thus returned to the quest for a 'fix' to this
current frustrating problem. Was using AVG-Free antivirus - email
scanning disabled - now trying Avast with no change to the
'cannot display' situation.
Read somewhere that lack of 'resources' is often the cause of strange
behaviour with some programs so I opened Task
Manager and, on the Processes tab, added columns for Handles, User
Objects and GDI Objects. Not being a Windows

programmer I don't know what these terms mean but I can understand
numbers and when, say, the Handles used by
msimn.exe rises to 55,000+ and the next highest number is 1,500
(svchost.exe) I am left wondering if just maybe this is an area
worth investigating? The current Task Manager figures for my Outlook
Express and Thunderbird (just for comparison) a
Comparing OE6 and Thunderbird2:
Mem Usage 42 MB 24MB
VM Usage 16MB 15MB
Handles 55,421 189
User Objects 135 61
GDI Objects 229 96

With only the default mail folders, with 22 emails in the Inbox and 1
in Drafts, restarting OE6 reduced the Handles figure to
374, User Objects to 112 and GDI objects to 172. By the way, when the
"Cannot display...' message occurs now I can restore
normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return
to the Inbox where previously I would have to close and
re-open OE6 or sometimes reboot the computer.
Hope this is of some help and that Microsoft, or somebody somewhere
resolves this problem in the near future!!!!
JackR

wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:05 am, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:
ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior:
If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell
me so. Thanks.

PA Bear,
I have the same problem and am running Windows Defender. Put together
this summary for your information:
I have been experiencing a range of 'cannot display folder/message'
for about two months. Have searched the web for a
solution without success; this site seems to offer the most pertinent
information aong with the promise that the 'fix' will be
psoted here when found.
My computer specs are XP Home SP2 with all updates, dual core CPU, 2
GB RAM, two 250 GB HDs, Vista/DX10 compatible video
card all of which makes a mockery of the warnings I get about low
disk space and memory as a likely cause of this problem.
I have tried most of the suggestions mentioned on this and other web
sites, new identity, compacting folders offline and reducing large
folders by moving emails, etc without any success. My latest and most
drastic experiment was as follows: I closed OE6, moved all the mail
folders (dbx files) to another folder and re-opened OE6 which gave me
a pristine set of default folders. When some mail arrived and I
replied to a few messages it was not long before the 'display' problem
occurred again!
A friend suggested I use Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express so
installed the latest version and, after some fiddling with
Gmail settings, got it working but I have to say I much prefer Outlook
Express and thus returned to the quest for a 'fix' to this
current frustrating problem. Was using AVG-Free antivirus - email
scanning disabled - now trying Avast with no change to the
'cannot display' situation.
Read somewhere that lack of 'resources' is often the cause of strange
behaviour with some programs so I opened Task
Manager and, on the Processes tab, added columns for Handles, User
Objects and GDI Objects. Not being a Windows

programmer I don't know what these terms mean but I can understand
numbers and when, say, the Handles used by
msimn.exe rises to 55,000+ and the next highest number is 1,500
(svchost.exe) I am left wondering if just maybe this is an area
worth investigating? The current Task Manager figures for my Outlook
Express and Thunderbird (just for comparison) a
Comparing OE6 and Thunderbird2:
Mem Usage 42 MB 24MB
VM Usage 16MB 15MB
Handles 55,421 189
User Objects 135 61
GDI Objects 229 96

With only the default mail folders, with 22 emails in the Inbox and 1
in Drafts, restarting OE6 reduced the Handles figure to
374, User Objects to 112 and GDI objects to 172. By the way, when the
"Cannot display...' message occurs now I can restore
normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return
to the Inbox where previously I would have to close and
re-open OE6 or sometimes reboot the computer.
Hope this is of some help and that Microsoft, or somebody somewhere
resolves this problem in the near future!!!!

[OE's got a wry sense of humor: When I tried to reply to your post, I got
that d*** error again!]

If you read through the posts to this thread, you'll find that nothing
you've mentioned (i.e., Defender; anti-virus app installed; computer specs)
appears to be the cause of the behavior.

What the size of your entire message store folder
(http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

...By the way, when the
"Cannot display...' message occurs now I can restore
normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return
to the Inbox...

Doesn't fix it here, and I suspect that, for you, it's only a temporary fix.

I've had OE up and running for well over 24 hours (using it almost
constantly while I'm awake) before encountering the behavior. Conversely,
I've seen the behavior occur several times in 1 hour or less. sigh

Again, if and when a resolution is found, I'll post about it in this thread.
Thanks for adding yourself to the every-growing list of sufferers, which
certainly does NOT appear to include all OE/WinXP SP2 users.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.org/

On Nov 6, 9:33 am, "PA Bear" wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:05 am, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:
ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior:
If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell
me so. Thanks.

PA Bear,
I have the same problem and am running Windows Defender. Put together
this summary for your information:
I have been experiencing a range of 'cannot display folder/message'
for about two months. Have searched the web for a
solution without success; this site seems to offer the most pertinent
information aong with the promise that the 'fix' will be
psoted here when found.
My computer specs are XP Home SP2 with all updates, dual core CPU, 2
GB RAM, two 250 GB HDs, Vista/DX10 compatible video
card all of which makes a mockery of the warnings I get about low
disk space and memory as a likely cause of this problem.
I have tried most of the suggestions mentioned on this and other web
sites, new identity, compacting folders offline and reducing large
folders by moving emails, etc without any success. My latest and most
drastic experiment was as follows: I closed OE6, moved all the mail
folders (dbx files) to another folder and re-opened OE6 which gave me
a pristine set of default folders. When some mail arrived and I
replied to a few messages it wasnotlong before the 'display' problem
occurred again!
A friend suggested I use Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express so
installed the latest version and, after some fiddling with
Gmail settings, got it working but I have to say I much prefer Outlook
Express and thus returned to the quest for a 'fix' to this
current frustrating problem. Was using AVG-Free antivirus - email
scanning disabled - now trying Avast with no change to the
'cannot display' situation.
Read somewhere that lack of 'resources' is often the cause of strange
behaviour with some programs so I opened Task
Manager and, on the Processes tab, added columns for Handles, User
Objects and GDI Objects.Notbeing a Windows

programmer I don't know what these terms mean but I can understand
numbers and when, say, the Handles used by
msimn.exe rises to 55,000+ and the next highest number is 1,500
(svchost.exe) I am left wondering if just maybe this is an area
worth investigating? The current Task Manager figures for my Outlook
Express and Thunderbird (just for comparison) a
Comparing OE6 and Thunderbird2:
Mem Usage 42 MB 24MB
VM Usage 16MB 15MB
Handles 55,421 189
User Objects 135 61
GDI Objects 229 96

With only the default mail folders, with 22 emails in the Inbox and 1
in Drafts, restarting OE6 reduced the Handles figure to
374, User Objects to 112 and GDI objects to 172. By the way, when the
"Cannot display...'messageoccurs now I can restore
normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return
to the Inbox where previously I would have to close and
re-open OE6 or sometimes reboot the computer.
Hope this is of some help and that Microsoft, or somebody somewhere
resolves this problem in the near future!!!!

[OE's got a wry sense of humor: When I tried to reply to your post, I got
that d*** error again!]

If you read through the posts to this thread, you'll find that nothing
you've mentioned (i.e., Defender; anti-virus app installed; computer specs)
appears to be the cause of the behavior.

What the size of your entiremessagestore folder
(http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

...By the way, when the
"Cannot display...'messageoccurs now I can restore
normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return
to the Inbox...

Doesn't fix it here, and I suspect that, for you, it's only a temporary fix.

I've had OE up and running for well over 24 hours (using it almost
constantly while I'm awake) before encountering the behavior. Conversely,
I've seen the behavior occur several times in 1 hour or less. sigh

Again, if and when a resolution is found, I'll post about it in this thread.
Thanks for adding yourself to the every-growing list of sufferers, which
certainly doesNOTappear to include all OE/WinXP SP2 users.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net
DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.org/

Thanks for the quick response.
My current Mail Folder is 3,79 MBs (The stuff I moved out of that
folder to C:\Backup is 666 MBs).
And yes, I know many people with XP who do NOT have this problem.
Weird!
JackR

wrote:
On Nov 6, 9:33 am, "PA Bear" wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:05 am, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:
ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior:
If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell
me so. Thanks.

PA Bear,
I have the same problem and am running Windows Defender. Put together
this summary for your information:
I have been experiencing a range of 'cannot display folder/message'
for about two months. Have searched the web for a
solution without success; this site seems to offer the most pertinent
information aong with the promise that the 'fix' will be
psoted here when found.
My computer specs are XP Home SP2 with all updates, dual core CPU, 2
GB RAM, two 250 GB HDs, Vista/DX10 compatible video
card all of which makes a mockery of the warnings I get about low
disk space and memory as a likely cause of this problem.
I have tried most of the suggestions mentioned on this and other web
sites, new identity, compacting folders offline and reducing large
folders by moving emails, etc without any success. My latest and most
drastic experiment was as follows: I closed OE6, moved all the mail
folders (dbx files) to another folder and re-opened OE6 which gave me
a pristine set of default folders. When some mail arrived and I
replied to a few messages it wasnotlong before the 'display' problem
occurred again!
A friend suggested I use Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express so
installed the latest version and, after some fiddling with
Gmail settings, got it working but I have to say I much prefer Outlook
Express and thus returned to the quest for a 'fix' to this
current frustrating problem. Was using AVG-Free antivirus - email
scanning disabled - now trying Avast with no change to the
'cannot display' situation.
Read somewhere that lack of 'resources' is often the cause of strange
behaviour with some programs so I opened Task
Manager and, on the Processes tab, added columns for Handles, User
Objects and GDI Objects.Notbeing a Windows

programmer I don't know what these terms mean but I can understand
numbers and when, say, the Handles used by
msimn.exe rises to 55,000+ and the next highest number is 1,500
(svchost.exe) I am left wondering if just maybe this is an area
worth investigating? The current Task Manager figures for my Outlook
Express and Thunderbird (just for comparison) a
Comparing OE6 and Thunderbird2:
Mem Usage 42 MB 24MB
VM Usage 16MB 15MB
Handles 55,421 189
User Objects 135 61
GDI Objects 229 96

With only the default mail folders, with 22 emails in the Inbox and 1
in Drafts, restarting OE6 reduced the Handles figure to
374, User Objects to 112 and GDI objects to 172. By the way, when the
"Cannot display...'messageoccurs now I can restore
normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return
to the Inbox where previously I would have to close and
re-open OE6 or sometimes reboot the computer.
Hope this is of some help and that Microsoft, or somebody somewhere
resolves this problem in the near future!!!!

[OE's got a wry sense of humor: When I tried to reply to your post, I got
that d*** error again!]

If you read through the posts to this thread, you'll find that nothing
you've mentioned (i.e., Defender; anti-virus app installed; computer
specs)
appears to be the cause of the behavior.

What the size of your entiremessagestore folder
(http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

...By the way, when the
"Cannot display...'messageoccurs now I can restore
normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return
to the Inbox...

Doesn't fix it here, and I suspect that, for you, it's only a temporary
fix.

I've had OE up and running for well over 24 hours (using it almost
constantly while I'm awake) before encountering the behavior.
Conversely,
I've seen the behavior occur several times in 1 hour or less. sigh

Again, if and when a resolution is found, I'll post about it in this
thread. Thanks for adding yourself to the every-growing list of
sufferers,
which certainly doesNOTappear to include all OE/WinXP SP2 users.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net
DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.org/

Thanks for the quick response.
My current Mail Folder is 3,79 MBs (The stuff I moved out of that
folder to C:\Backup is 666 MBs).
And yes, I know many people with XP who do NOT have this problem.

That's an OK size for your store.
--
~PA Bear

On Nov 7, 3:21 am, "PA Bear" wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 6, 9:33 am, "PA Bear" wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 22, 5:05 am, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:
ATTN anyone who's monitoring this thread or seeing the same behavior:
If you're running Windows Defender, please reply to this post and tell
me so. Thanks.

PA Bear,
I have the same problem and am running Windows Defender. Put together
this summary for your information:
I have been experiencing a range of 'cannot display folder/message'
for about two months. Have searched the web for a
solution without success; this site seems to offer the most pertinent
information aong with the promise that the 'fix' will be
psoted here when found.
My computer specs are XP Home SP2 with all updates, dual core CPU, 2
GB RAM, two 250 GB HDs, Vista/DX10 compatible video
card all of which makes a mockery of the warnings I get about low
disk space and memory as a likely cause of this problem.
I have tried most of the suggestions mentioned on this and other web
sites, new identity, compacting folders offline and reducing large
folders by moving emails, etc without any success. My latest and most
drastic experiment was as follows: I closed OE6, moved all the mail
folders (dbx files) to another folder and re-opened OE6 which gave me
a pristine set of default folders. When some mail arrived and I
replied to a few messages it wasnotlong before the 'display' problem
occurred again!
A friend suggested I use Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express so
installed the latest version and, after some fiddling with
Gmail settings, got it working but I have to say I much prefer Outlook
Express and thus returned to the quest for a 'fix' to this
current frustrating problem. Was using AVG-Free antivirus - email
scanning disabled - now trying Avast with no change to the
'cannot display' situation.
Read somewhere that lack of 'resources' is often the cause of strange
behaviour with some programs so I opened Task
Manager and, on the Processes tab, added columns for Handles, User
Objects and GDI Objects.Notbeing a Windows

programmer I don't know what these terms mean but I can understand
numbers and when, say, the Handles used by
msimn.exe rises to 55,000+ and the next highest number is 1,500
(svchost.exe) I am left wondering if just maybe this is an area
worth investigating? The current Task Manager figures for my Outlook
Express and Thunderbird (just for comparison) a
Comparing OE6 and Thunderbird2:
Mem Usage 42 MB 24MB
VM Usage 16MB 15MB
Handles 55,421 189
User Objects 135 61
GDI Objects 229 96

With only the default mail folders, with 22 emails in the Inbox and 1
in Drafts, restarting OE6 reduced the Handles figure to
374, User Objects to 112 and GDI objects to 172. By the way, when the
"Cannot display...'messageoccurs now I can restore
normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return
to the Inbox where previously I would have to close and
re-open OE6 or sometimes reboot the computer.
Hope this is of some help and that Microsoft, or somebody somewhere
resolves this problem in the near future!!!!

[OE's got a wry sense of humor: When I tried to reply to your post, I got
that d*** error again!]

If you read through the posts to this thread, you'll find that nothing
you've mentioned (i.e., Defender; anti-virus app installed; computer
specs)
appears to be the cause of the behavior.

What the size of your entiremessagestore folder
(http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

...By the way, when the
"Cannot display...'messageoccurs now I can restore
normal operation by selecting, say, the Drafts folder and then return
to the Inbox...

Doesn't fix it here, and I suspect that, for you, it's only a temporary
fix.

I've had OE up and running for well over 24 hours (using it almost
constantly while I'm awake) before encountering the behavior.
Conversely,
I've seen the behavior occur several times in 1 hour or less. sigh

Again, if and when a resolution is found, I'll post about it in this
thread. Thanks for adding yourself to the every-growing list of
sufferers,
which certainly doesNOTappear to include all OE/WinXP SP2 users.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net
DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.org/

Thanks for the quick response.
My current Mail Folder is 3,79 MBs (The stuff I moved out of that
folder to C:\Backup is 666 MBs).
And yes, I know many people with XP who do NOT have this problem.

That's an OK size for your store.
--
~PA Bear

Hi PA Bear, Yesterday I tried to send you an update but can't see it
here so had better repeat it just in case! I was able to induce the
'cannot display' condition as follows: An incoming email with small
picture tiled vertically down left side and enough text to produce a
smallish scroll bar on the right. Using the mouse scroll wheel, scroll
up/down madly for a while and then see if you can select another
email. I 'exited' the problem condition via End Process in Task
Manager. Repeated this several times and noted 'handles' number over
20,000 when 'cannot display' occurred.
Today I reformatted and reinstalled XP and so far OE6 has not put a
foot wrong. JackR