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Old January 15th 06, 02:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
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Actually you can. When the messages with images are opened, then they all
get put into the Temporary Internet Files folder and OE references them from
there. Their filenames do not represent the attachment filenames however,
so you would have a hard time finding them. Also they are deleted when OE
is closed.

steve

"AK" wrote in message
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Ok Thanks

Too bad. Sometimes I can recover email attachments in Outlook by using the
temp folders and a graphics thumbnailing program like ThumbsPlus. Just was
wondering about if such could be done for the OutlookExpress. Apparently
not.

AK

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
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All attachments are embedded and encoded in the original message. Each
newsgroup has a corresponding DBX file holding all the messages for that
newsgroup.

DBX files are not in a format that is easily accessible outside of OE.


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Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"AK" wrote in message
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Where are the newsreader graphics temp files stored? I know where they
are in MS Outlook but cant find them in the Outlook Express. When I read
a NG message with binary attachments they take a while to load but then
when I go back to that message they load very fast, indicating that they
binarp graphic files are being stored somewhere on my computer. I am
assuming that they stay on the system in a temp file but maybe not, and
maybe they are dumped after exiting. (I know that MS Outlook does not do
a dump unless it is done manually)

I found that the NG subscriptions are inthe identites folder under local
settings, Would have thought hat there would have been a temp folder
undr that but not so.


Any help would be appreciated.

WinXp






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Old January 15th 05, 03:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
marco kleine-wilke
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"Steve Cochran" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Actually you can. When the messages with images are opened, then they all
get put into the Temporary Internet Files folder and OE references them
from there. Their filenames do not represent the attachment filenames
however, so you would have a hard time finding them. Also they are
deleted when OE is closed.

steve

"AK" wrote in message
...
Ok Thanks

Too bad. Sometimes I can recover email attachments in Outlook by using
the temp folders and a graphics thumbnailing program like ThumbsPlus.
Just was wondering about if such could be done for the OutlookExpress.
Apparently not.

AK

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
All attachments are embedded and encoded in the original message. Each
newsgroup has a corresponding DBX file holding all the messages for that
newsgroup.

DBX files are not in a format that is easily accessible outside of OE.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"AK" wrote in message
...
Where are the newsreader graphics temp files stored? I know where they
are in MS Outlook but cant find them in the Outlook Express. When I
read a NG message with binary attachments they take a while to load but
then when I go back to that message they load very fast, indicating
that they binarp graphic files are being stored somewhere on my
computer. I am assuming that they stay on the system in a temp file but
maybe not, and maybe they are dumped after exiting. (I know that MS
Outlook does not do a dump unless it is done manually)

I found that the NG subscriptions are inthe identites folder under
local settings, Would have thought hat there would have been a temp
folder undr that but not so.


Any help would be appreciated.

WinXp








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Old January 15th 06, 04:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Robert Aldwinckle
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Default Temp Files

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Actually you can. When the messages with images are opened, then they all
get put into the Temporary Internet Files folder and OE references them from
there. Their filenames do not represent the attachment filenames however,
so you would have a hard time finding them. Also they are deleted when OE
is closed.



Deleted when OE is closed or when the message is closed?
FWIW I would check with FileMon filtering on Temp.

In the case of .doc attachments they are deleted (from the TIF) when
the OE message window they were launched from is closed.
BTW that suggests that when an attached file is erroneously updated
by a Word user the update might be at least somewhat recoverable,
e.g. provided the launching OE message window was closed *before*
the last Save was done from Word.


Robert Aldwinckle
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steve

"AK" wrote in message
...
Ok Thanks

Too bad. Sometimes I can recover email attachments in Outlook by using the
temp folders and a graphics thumbnailing program like ThumbsPlus. Just was
wondering about if such could be done for the OutlookExpress.


....


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Old January 15th 06, 07:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Ron Sommer
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Default Temp Files


"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message
...
"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Actually you can. When the messages with images are opened, then they
all
get put into the Temporary Internet Files folder and OE references them
from
there. Their filenames do not represent the attachment filenames
however,
so you would have a hard time finding them. Also they are deleted when
OE
is closed.



Deleted when OE is closed or when the message is closed?
FWIW I would check with FileMon filtering on Temp.

In the case of .doc attachments they are deleted (from the TIF) when
the OE message window they were launched from is closed.
BTW that suggests that when an attached file is erroneously updated
by a Word user the update might be at least somewhat recoverable,
e.g. provided the launching OE message window was closed *before*
the last Save was done from Word.


Robert Aldwinckle
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Because the Word file was opened from the TIF, isn't the save location the
TIF unless a Save As is done?
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Ron Sommer


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Old January 15th 06, 10:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Robert Aldwinckle
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"Ron Sommer" wrote in message ...

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message

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In the case of .doc attachments they are deleted (from the TIF) when
the OE message window they were launched from is closed.
BTW that suggests that when an attached file is erroneously updated
by a Word user the update might be at least somewhat recoverable,
e.g. provided the launching OE message window was closed *before*
the last Save was done from Word.




Because the Word file was opened from the TIF, isn't the save location the
TIF unless a Save As is done?



Yes. Exactly. But the problem is that OE deletes the file when the
message window is closed. My speculation was that if the message
window was closed when Word had the file open, either the delete
would not succeed or the changed file would still be in memory so that
if the user saved it before closing Word or if the user tried to close Word
expecting Word to notify them to save it then either the user would become
aware that the file was no longer there (in the TIF) or they would be saving
it when it would be less susceptible to being deleted (e.g. no longer would be
deleted immediately by OE.)

E.g. then when the user came here moaning about losing all their work
there could actually be a possibility of being able to recover it. eg
BTW how many cycles of automatic backup does Word keep anyway?
Perhaps that would be another source of recovery in the same scenario.


Robert
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Old January 16th 06, 12:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
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Default Temp Files


"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message
...
"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Actually you can. When the messages with images are opened, then they
all
get put into the Temporary Internet Files folder and OE references them
from
there. Their filenames do not represent the attachment filenames
however,
so you would have a hard time finding them. Also they are deleted when
OE
is closed.



Deleted when OE is closed or when the message is closed?
FWIW I would check with FileMon filtering on Temp.


I have my own utility.

The files are only deleted when OE is closed, not when the message is
closed.

In the case of .doc attachments they are deleted (from the TIF) when
the OE message window they were launched from is closed.
BTW that suggests that when an attached file is erroneously updated
by a Word user the update might be at least somewhat recoverable,
e.g. provided the launching OE message window was closed *before*
the last Save was done from Word.



That is not the case with images. There is a difference between opening a
multipart message and its pieces and opening an attachment with another
program.

steve



Robert Aldwinckle
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steve

"AK" wrote in message
...
Ok Thanks

Too bad. Sometimes I can recover email attachments in Outlook by using
the
temp folders and a graphics thumbnailing program like ThumbsPlus. Just
was
wondering about if such could be done for the OutlookExpress.


...


 




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