I Can send but can not receice. I am using a hotmail HTTP for out look.
This is what my ISP said that I have. What can I get incoming and outgoing
emails?
Also do I have to use the HTTP email server as a prefix in my email number.
For instance I am using @msn.com
can I use my own? For

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Please post any error messages you're getting in their entirety.
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MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
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DTS-L http://dts-l.org/

Jeff wrote:
I Can send but can not receice. I am using a hotmail HTTP for out look.
This is what my ISP said that I have. What can I get incoming and
outgoing
emails?
Also do I have to use the HTTP email server as a prefix in my email
number.
For instance I am using @msn.com
can I use my own? For

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
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Please post any error messages you're getting in their entirety.
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~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.org/

Jeff wrote:
I Can send but can not receice. I am using a hotmail HTTP for out
look.
This is what my ISP said that I have. What can I get incoming and
outgoing emails?
Also do I have to use the HTTP email server as a prefix in my email
number.
For instance I am using @msn.com
can I use my own? For

One doesn't exactly "receive" Hotmail HTTP mail in Outlook. It is
displayed in the All Mail Folders pane with its own folders, from whence
you can preview or download individual messages. Do you mean that
nothing is showing up in your Hotmail folder in Outlook?

Who is your ISP exactly?

It may help to post which version of Outlook and operating system you
are using.

No, you cannot use Hotmail HTTP to spoof other addresses.

Cheers,

Earle

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:27:23 -0700, Earle Horton wrote:

Who is your ISP exactly?

According to his headers, Qwest:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 75-166-191-205.hlrn.qwest.net

Probably that ******* service where Qwest provisions the DSL line,
but the subscriber signs up for Internet content from an "ISP"; most
common would be Qwest + MSN.

I have that service. It works great. But yeah, I have some computer
expertise. If you just put in the CD and read mail using MSN Explorer,
that works great too. If that is indeed the case, everything you need
to know about setting up Microsoft email clients is right he

http://www.qwest.com/internethelp/msn/mail.html


It may help to post which version of Outlook and operating
system you are using.

Wondering if he is trying to use MS Outlook with the Hotmail
connector,
or MS Outlook Express. It is common for ordinary users, without
special knowledge of the idiotic MSFT propensity for using confusingly
similar nomenclature for distinctly different products to be confused
about which product they are actually using.

No, you cannot use Hotmail HTTP to spoof other addresses.

Are you certain?

Tried it a few times. No go. It wants the sender address to agree with
the account holder. Maybe someone with more knowledge and more spare
time could make it work. It's not like it was a few years ago, where
SMTP servers didn't even require user authentication and would let you
spoof any address.

Cheers,

Earle

Guys, please refrain from hijacking OP's thread any further. If you simply
can't resist, please at least discontinue the crosspost to OE6 newsgroup.
Thanks.
--
~PA Bear

N. Miller wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:47:07 -0700, Earle Horton wrote:

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:27:23 -0700, Earle Horton wrote:

Who is your ISP exactly?

According to his headers, Qwest:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 75-166-191-205.hlrn.qwest.net

Probably that ******* service where Qwest provisions the DSL line,
but the subscriber signs up for Internet content from an "ISP"; most
common would be Qwest + MSN.

I have that service. It works great. But yeah, I have some computer
expertise. If you just put in the CD and read mail using MSN Explorer,
that works great too. If that is indeed the case, everything you need
to know about setting up Microsoft email clients is right he

http://www.qwest.com/internethelp/msn/mail.html

Qwest has always been an odd duck in the ISP business.

snip

No, you cannot use Hotmail HTTP to spoof other addresses.

Are you certain?

Tried it a few times. No go. It wants the sender address to agree with
the account holder. Maybe someone with more knowledge and more spare
time could make it work. It's not like it was a few years ago, where
SMTP servers didn't even require user authentication and would let you
spoof any address.

You can't just make up any email domain, of course. And to get it to work
with an ', or ' requires configuration. You have to
tell MSN which email address you want to appear as the sender. They then
send a verification email to that address. Keeps people from trying to
"spoof" email addresses they don't control. Your proposed sender account
receives the verification email with a link. You click on the link to
verify
that it is, indeed, your account. Once MSN has verified that you are the
authorized user of the proposed sender account, you can substitute that
email address in the "From:" field of your message. The headers will still
identify the actual MSN account used for sending ("Return-Path:" entry):

Return-Path:
Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com
[172.20.83.110])
by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id
MAILINMG082-a0b473753f026c; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:11:48 -0400
Received: from bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com
(bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.146]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com
(v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG045-a0b473753f026c; Sun, 11 Nov 2007
14:11:44 -0400
Received: from BAY122-DS3 ([207.46.10.158]) by
bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
Sun,
11 Nov 2007 11:11:43 -0800
X-Originating-IP: [68.127.136.80]
X-Originating-Email: ]
Message-ID:
From: "Proper Name"
To:
Subject: [TEST] Just checking if this works through WLM
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:08:42 -0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C82453.3849DF30"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
Importance: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2007 19:11:43.0654 (UTC)
FILETIME=[B2624C60:01C82496]
X-AOL-IP: 65.54.246.146
X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo :
X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from :

Notice that the "Return-Path:" and "X-Originating-Email:" header lines
show
the actual MSN account used, but the "From:" email address is *not* in the
'msn.com' domain. As you can see, this one was sent using Windows Live
Mail.

I have also done this with a Hotmail account. I initially verified that it
would work by sending from the Hotmail account web interface; but I wanted
to demonstrate that it also works with a mail client.

GMail and Yahoo! also can be configured for a sender domain other than
'gmail.com', or 'yahoo.com'. I haven't checked whether AOL will allow it
from 'aim.com', 'aol.com', and 'netscape.net' accounts, but I would be
surprised if they didn't allow it. As with MSN accounts, GMail and Yahoo!
will send an email with a verification link to the proposed sender email
address. MSN won't allow you to configure another 'hotmail.com',
'msn.com',
and (presumably) 'live.com' email address as a sender email address. They
now scan from the '@' symbol, so my 'msn.aosake.net' domain isn't allowed
any more, either.

Uh, Miller appears to have answered one of OP's questions, how you
change the From: field to something else. We are not hijacking the
thread at all. Just because you don't understand Miller's answer,
doesn't mean you have to start throwing out random unfounded accusations
of bad netiquette.

¿Por qué no te callas? Lo que realmente me hincha las pelotas, son los
tíos que empiezan los hilos crosputeados, y entonces ¡se atreven a
quejarse de la crosprostitución!

Saludos,

Earle

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Guys, please refrain from hijacking OP's thread any further. If you
simply
can't resist, please at least discontinue the crosspost to OE6
newsgroup.
Thanks.
--
~PA Bear

N. Miller wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:47:07 -0700, Earle Horton wrote:

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:27:23 -0700, Earle Horton wrote:

Who is your ISP exactly?

According to his headers, Qwest:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 75-166-191-205.hlrn.qwest.net

Probably that ******* service where Qwest provisions the DSL line,
but the subscriber signs up for Internet content from an "ISP";
most
common would be Qwest + MSN.

I have that service. It works great. But yeah, I have some
computer
expertise. If you just put in the CD and read mail using MSN
Explorer,
that works great too. If that is indeed the case, everything you
need
to know about setting up Microsoft email clients is right he

http://www.qwest.com/internethelp/msn/mail.html

Qwest has always been an odd duck in the ISP business.

snip

No, you cannot use Hotmail HTTP to spoof other addresses.

Are you certain?

Tried it a few times. No go. It wants the sender address to agree
with
the account holder. Maybe someone with more knowledge and more
spare
time could make it work. It's not like it was a few years ago,
where
SMTP servers didn't even require user authentication and would let
you
spoof any address.

You can't just make up any email domain, of course. And to get it to
work
with an ', or ' requires configuration. You
have to
tell MSN which email address you want to appear as the sender. They
then
send a verification email to that address. Keeps people from trying
to
"spoof" email addresses they don't control. Your proposed sender
account
receives the verification email with a link. You click on the link
to
verify
that it is, indeed, your account. Once MSN has verified that you are
the
authorized user of the proposed sender account, you can substitute
that
email address in the "From:" field of your message. The headers will
still
identify the actual MSN account used for sending ("Return-Path:"
entry):

Return-Path:
Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com
[172.20.83.110])
by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id
MAILINMG082-a0b473753f026c; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:11:48 -0400
Received: from bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com
(bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.146]) by
rly-mg04.mx.aol.com
(v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG045-a0b473753f026c; Sun, 11
Nov 2007
14:11:44 -0400
Received: from BAY122-DS3 ([207.46.10.158]) by
bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft
SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
Sun,
11 Nov 2007 11:11:43 -0800
X-Originating-IP: [68.127.136.80]
X-Originating-Email: ]
Message-ID:
From: "Proper Name"
To:
Subject: [TEST] Just checking if this works through WLM
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:08:42 -0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C82453.3849DF30"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
Importance: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2007 19:11:43.0654 (UTC)
FILETIME=[B2624C60:01C82496]
X-AOL-IP: 65.54.246.146
X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo :
X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from :

Notice that the "Return-Path:" and "X-Originating-Email:" header
lines
show
the actual MSN account used, but the "From:" email address is *not*
in the
'msn.com' domain. As you can see, this one was sent using Windows
Live
Mail.

I have also done this with a Hotmail account. I initially verified
that it
would work by sending from the Hotmail account web interface; but I
wanted
to demonstrate that it also works with a mail client.

GMail and Yahoo! also can be configured for a sender domain other
than
'gmail.com', or 'yahoo.com'. I haven't checked whether AOL will
allow it
from 'aim.com', 'aol.com', and 'netscape.net' accounts, but I would
be
surprised if they didn't allow it. As with MSN accounts, GMail and
Yahoo!
will send an email with a verification link to the proposed sender
email
address. MSN won't allow you to configure another 'hotmail.com',
'msn.com',
and (presumably) 'live.com' email address as a sender email address.
They
now scan from the '@' symbol, so my 'msn.aosake.net' domain isn't
allowed
any more, either.