See Steve's reply (http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4).

For best results (don't get your hopes up), you do *not* want to compact all
OE folders until you've (1) closed OE and (2) moved 'Hotmail-Sent Items.dbx'
to another, non-OE folder.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org


rock9995 wrote:
that's right PA Bear. Exactly that.

rock


"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Repost: Are you attempting to recover messages from Hotmail-Sent Items
folder? [My CrystalBall© is out being polished.]

It seems
mighty co-incidental that all the sent files in OE disappeared right
after
that.

Don't be so paranoid. When was the last time you accessed the rock9995
account in OE? ...at www.hotmail.com?

Except for the paid account of course

What "paid account"? Have you subscribed to Hotmail Plus or MSN Premium
(not that it matters, really)?
--
~PA Bear

rock9995 wrote:
Bear, I made rock9995 my default email this afternoon after removing
an old bellsouth address that had been the default for a long time. It
seems
mighty co-incidental that all the sent files in OE disappeared right
after
that. Except for the paid account of course.

after piddling around for awhile looking for them, I hit "synchronize
all"
and watched some files get downloaded in the various accounts but if
that also compacted them I don't know. I didn't actually compact
anything by clicking something as far as I know.

they're gone aren't they? gone Gone GONE!

rock

ps. thanks



"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Are you attempting to recover messages from Hotmail-Sent Items
folder (per your original thread here, "what the? BEAR and the
other pros...are you there??") ?

Have you compacted all OE folders since they went missing?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP,
DTS-L.org rock9995 wrote:
try getting a free dbx viewer from snapfish.com to try to find and
recover
lost (maybe) OE files.

I did all that and installed a program (freeware) called OE View
but now I
don't know where to look in the computer.

I"ve looked in the Outlook Express folder in the Program Files
folder but no dbx files or any kind of OE database.

Where the Sam Hill are the OE emails stored on the computer?? What
directory? Anybody know?

rock

(sorry, got cut off early PA Bear)

yes, exactly that trying to recover the seemingly lost sent messages.

yeah, once a paranoid, always a paranoid is a psychological fact...let's
see..about a dozen times now both in OE and at hotmail.com and yes, the
"deleted in 30 days" was up there, but I SWEAR to you those sent messages
have been in there since before October!!

I subscribe to hotmail plus (I think...it's $20/yr and allows 2gig storage
and 25meg file sizes) that account still has the sent messages.



"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Repost: Are you attempting to recover messages from Hotmail-Sent Items
folder? [My CrystalBall© is out being polished.]

It seems
mighty co-incidental that all the sent files in OE disappeared right
after
that.

Don't be so paranoid. When was the last time you accessed the rock9995
account in OE? ...at www.hotmail.com?

Except for the paid account of course

What "paid account"? Have you subscribed to Hotmail Plus or MSN Premium
(not that it matters, really)?
--
~PA Bear

rock9995 wrote:
Bear, I made rock9995 my default email this afternoon after removing an
old bellsouth address that had been the default for a long time. It
seems
mighty co-incidental that all the sent files in OE disappeared right
after
that. Except for the paid account of course.

after piddling around for awhile looking for them, I hit "synchronize
all"
and watched some files get downloaded in the various accounts but if that
also compacted them I don't know. I didn't actually compact anything by
clicking something as far as I know.

they're gone aren't they? gone Gone GONE!

rock

ps. thanks



"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Are you attempting to recover messages from Hotmail-Sent Items folder
(per your original thread here, "what the? BEAR and the other
pros...are you there??") ?

Have you compacted all OE folders since they went missing?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

rock9995 wrote:
try getting a free dbx viewer from snapfish.com to try to find and
recover
lost (maybe) OE files.

I did all that and installed a program (freeware) called OE View but
now I
don't know where to look in the computer.

I"ve looked in the Outlook Express folder in the Program Files folder
but no dbx files or any kind of OE database.

Where the Sam Hill are the OE emails stored on the computer?? What
directory? Anybody know?

rock

I subscribe to hotmail plus (I think...it's $20/yr and allows 2gig storage
and 25meg file sizes) that account still has the sent messages.

Log on to the subscribed account at www.hotmail.com and open to Sent Items:
Does the same 30-day warning display there?

I have no idea how you go about getting 'em all covered, but supposedly your
annual subscription covers all of your MSN/Hotmail accounts (e.g.,
rock9995[at]hotmail.com, too).

If the utility you're using can recover anything from "Hotmail-Sent
Items.dbx" (once you've closed OE and moved it to another non-OE folder), do
*not* drag the messages into a Hotmail-in-OE folder!

To archive Hotmail messages, either Move them to another user-created
Hotmail-in-OE folder or to a user-created Local OE folder.
--
~PA Bear


rock9995 wrote:
(sorry, got cut off early PA Bear)

yes, exactly that trying to recover the seemingly lost sent messages.

yeah, once a paranoid, always a paranoid is a psychological fact...let's
see..about a dozen times now both in OE and at hotmail.com and yes, the
"deleted in 30 days" was up there, but I SWEAR to you those sent messages
have been in there since before October!!

I subscribe to hotmail plus (I think...it's $20/yr and allows 2gig storage
and 25meg file sizes) that account still has the sent messages.



"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Repost: Are you attempting to recover messages from Hotmail-Sent Items
folder? [My CrystalBall© is out being polished.]

It seems
mighty co-incidental that all the sent files in OE disappeared right
after
that.

Don't be so paranoid. When was the last time you accessed the rock9995
account in OE? ...at www.hotmail.com?

Except for the paid account of course

What "paid account"? Have you subscribed to Hotmail Plus or MSN Premium
(not that it matters, really)?
--
~PA Bear

rock9995 wrote:
Bear, I made rock9995 my default email this afternoon after removing
an old bellsouth address that had been the default for a long time. It
seems
mighty co-incidental that all the sent files in OE disappeared right
after
that. Except for the paid account of course.

after piddling around for awhile looking for them, I hit "synchronize
all"
and watched some files get downloaded in the various accounts but if
that also compacted them I don't know. I didn't actually compact
anything by clicking something as far as I know.

they're gone aren't they? gone Gone GONE!

rock

ps. thanks



"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Are you attempting to recover messages from Hotmail-Sent Items
folder (per your original thread here, "what the? BEAR and the
other pros...are you there??") ?

Have you compacted all OE folders since they went missing?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP,
DTS-L.org rock9995 wrote:
try getting a free dbx viewer from snapfish.com to try to find and
recover
lost (maybe) OE files.

I did all that and installed a program (freeware) called OE View
but now I
don't know where to look in the computer.

I"ve looked in the Outlook Express folder in the Program Files
folder but no dbx files or any kind of OE database.

Where the Sam Hill are the OE emails stored on the computer?? What
directory? Anybody know?

rock

In ,
rock9995 had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

1. Well, thanks to Galen, I now have a free OE Viewer for later use.

2. PA Bear told me how to do user-created files to store my stuff and
how the cow ate the cabbage with regard to what probaby is my
reality: all sent letters lost but...

3. Thanks to Bruce Hagen, I now know how to find the location of all
the OE files and make 'em visible (unfortunately the sent files
weren't there anymore)

4. Steve Cochran turned me on to oehelp.com which has some good tips
about what to do if all else fails. Since all else has failed (so
far) I'll give it a try. Can't hurt.

I WILL back up more often to dvd and

THANKS OE PROFESSIONALS IN THIS NEWSGROUP. I speak for a lot of
not-that-illiterate guys out there that sincerely appreciate the time
you put in to try to help us out when s**t happens.

Really. Thank all of you very much.

rock


"rock9995" wrote in message
...
try getting a free dbx viewer from snapfish.com to try to find and
recover lost (maybe) OE files.

I did all that and installed a program (freeware) called OE View but
now I don't know where to look in the computer.

I"ve looked in the Outlook Express folder in the Program Files
folder but no dbx files or any kind of OE database.

Where the Sam Hill are the OE emails stored on the computer?? What
directory? Anybody know?

rock

Okay but...

It's now a LONG time later and you should respond to the thread that it
started in if you want Galen to see it. g However, this will teach you to
listen to a Galen!!!

Actually the subject line - found by searching and entirely by accident - is
the absolute greatest subject line ever and you're now my hero even if you
don't see this. This is, shall I say, absolutely perfect and I'm so going to
save this entire thread for archiving!

"Galen told me to" -- I love it!

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"We approached the case, you remember, with an absolutely blank mind,
which is always an advantage. We had formed no theories. We were simply
there to observe and to draw inferences from our observations." -
Sherlock Holmes

ROFL

"Galen" wrote in message
...
In ,
rock9995 had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

1. Well, thanks to Galen, I now have a free OE Viewer for later use.

2. PA Bear told me how to do user-created files to store my stuff and
how the cow ate the cabbage with regard to what probaby is my
reality: all sent letters lost but...

3. Thanks to Bruce Hagen, I now know how to find the location of all
the OE files and make 'em visible (unfortunately the sent files
weren't there anymore)

4. Steve Cochran turned me on to oehelp.com which has some good tips
about what to do if all else fails. Since all else has failed (so
far) I'll give it a try. Can't hurt.

I WILL back up more often to dvd and

THANKS OE PROFESSIONALS IN THIS NEWSGROUP. I speak for a lot of
not-that-illiterate guys out there that sincerely appreciate the time
you put in to try to help us out when s**t happens.

Really. Thank all of you very much.

rock


"rock9995" wrote in message
...
try getting a free dbx viewer from snapfish.com to try to find and
recover lost (maybe) OE files.

I did all that and installed a program (freeware) called OE View but
now I don't know where to look in the computer.

I"ve looked in the Outlook Express folder in the Program Files
folder but no dbx files or any kind of OE database.

Where the Sam Hill are the OE emails stored on the computer?? What
directory? Anybody know?

rock

Okay but...

It's now a LONG time later and you should respond to the thread that it
started in if you want Galen to see it. g However, this will teach you
to listen to a Galen!!!

Actually the subject line - found by searching and entirely by accident -
is the absolute greatest subject line ever and you're now my hero even if
you don't see this. This is, shall I say, absolutely perfect and I'm so
going to save this entire thread for archiving!

"Galen told me to" -- I love it!

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"We approached the case, you remember, with an absolutely blank mind,
which is always an advantage. We had formed no theories. We were simply
there to observe and to draw inferences from our observations." -
Sherlock Holmes

In ,
Steve Cochran had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

ROFL

At least it wasn't something I'd told someone to do and it'd hosed their PC.
One of the reasons that I try to double check everything (and still make
posts) is I don't really WANT to ever see that - mostly 'cause it'd just
look bad and I'm sure someone would point it out to me. VBG Oh, yes. I
really printed this thread out and saved it to DVD archive and HDD.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"I am glad of all details, whether they seem to you to be relevant or
not." - Sherlock Holmes

Yeah, that's the "first do no harm" principal that one of your colleagues
became famous for. VBG


"Galen" wrote in message
...
In ,
Steve Cochran had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

ROFL

At least it wasn't something I'd told someone to do and it'd hosed their
PC. One of the reasons that I try to double check everything (and still
make posts) is I don't really WANT to ever see that - mostly 'cause it'd
just look bad and I'm sure someone would point it out to me. VBG Oh,
yes. I really printed this thread out and saved it to DVD archive and HDD.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"I am glad of all details, whether they seem to you to be relevant or
not." - Sherlock Holmes