I'm quite sure this has nothing to do with OE. It's just curiosity. In
various newsgroups, I'll sometimes see a subject line like " Whatever the
subject was", but the message I'm seeing isn't displayed in a hierarchy
beneath the original post. At the same time, other threads *are* arranged
correctly (original post, with responses in steps beneath). What causes this
disconnection? Posting from google or something?

That and many other newsgroup weirdnesses have to do with the structure of
usenet itself and the capabilities of your ISP's news server. IMHO, usenet
was not originally designed for the volume of traffic it processes now.

--
Ted Zieglar
"You can do it if you try."

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I'm quite sure this has nothing to do with OE. It's just curiosity. In
various newsgroups, I'll sometimes see a subject line like " Whatever
the
subject was", but the message I'm seeing isn't displayed in a hierarchy
beneath the original post. At the same time, other threads *are* arranged
correctly (original post, with responses in steps beneath). What causes
this
disconnection? Posting from google or something?

Assuming you have "Group messages by conversation" enabled:

It usually occurs when the "references" in a Reply To posts headers have
been stripped out somehow. (Here's the references line from Ted's reply to
your post: "References: ").

It can also occur when someone makes a new post with a subject identical to
one of an already ongoing thread (though oddly enough sometimes these do get
threaded into the old thread).
--
~PA Bear


Doug Kanter wrote:
I'm quite sure this has nothing to do with OE. It's just curiosity. In
various newsgroups, I'll sometimes see a subject line like " Whatever
the subject was", but the message I'm seeing isn't displayed in a
hierarchy beneath the original post. At the same time, other threads
*are* arranged correctly (original post, with responses in steps
beneath). What causes this disconnection? Posting from google or
something?

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Assuming you have "Group messages by conversation" enabled:

Yep, and it works fine for the vast majority. It's these posts which have
drifted away from the original threads that are so annoying.

Oh well. I'm just bitching. I know the problem's not in my computer. Done
bitching now.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

I'm quite sure this has nothing to do with OE. It's just curiosity. In
various newsgroups, I'll sometimes see a subject line like "
Whatever the subject was", but the message I'm seeing isn't displayed
in a hierarchy beneath the original post. At the same time, other
threads *are* arranged correctly (original post, with responses in
steps beneath). What causes this disconnection? Posting from google
or something?

And besides those, sometimes OE just gets confused and doesn't thread
properly.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Outfitting a new computer for the Net
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...wcomputer.mspx
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

Besides what the others have said, some people start a new thread with a
subject that starts .

If you look at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3) and there is no
References:
header, then this is the first message of the thread

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I'm quite sure this has nothing to do with OE. It's just curiosity. In
various newsgroups, I'll sometimes see a subject line like "
Whatever the subject was", but the message I'm seeing isn't displayed
in a hierarchy beneath the original post. At the same time, other
threads *are* arranged correctly (original post, with responses in
steps beneath). What causes this disconnection? Posting from google or
something?

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Besides what the others have said, some people start a new thread with a
subject that starts .

If you look at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3) and there is no
References:
header, then this is the first message of the thread

So, it's OK to say obscene things to these monkeys? I'd very much like to,
sometimes.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I'm quite sure this has nothing to do with OE. It's just curiosity. In
various newsgroups, I'll sometimes see a subject line like " Whatever the
subject was", but the message I'm seeing isn't displayed in a hierarchy
beneath the original post. At the same time, other threads *are* arranged
correctly (original post, with responses in steps beneath). What causes this
disconnection? Posting from google or something?


There are several common causes, some of which have been
mentioned already by previous responders. The most likely cause
is people doing a search using the MS web interface to newsgroups
and adding a "Me too!" to an ancient thread which has been retained
longer than the retention period of the NNTP server that you are using.

E.g., open the newsgroup in the web interface and do a search with
some of the message's distinctive words or names. You will probably find
that the new post has a recent date and the messages in the rest of the
thread have a date which is over 3 months old.

Tip: you can also use a Message-ID from the References: header
as a search term for the Google Groups Advanced search page to find
the origin of even older threads or prove that posts originated via
cross-posting, etc.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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