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  #1  
Old February 14th 08, 09:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Nick
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Default PDF Attachment not showing in Inbox

I'm using OE 6 with XP Home SP2 and all recent updates, Norton A/V
14.4.0.12. (email scanning now disabled).

A sender is trying to send me a PDF attachment. Not certain what mailer
he's using but I think it's Yahoo. However, I never see the attachment.

If I view the incoming message source I can see the encoded attachment but
there is no attachment icon showing in the inbox.

I can send a PDF to myself without a problem, the sender says other people
can receive the PDF from him. I have received similar files before from the
same sender without problems.

This problem appears to be similar to that raised in a recent earlier
thread.

Grateful for any ideas or suggestions.
Nick


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  #2  
Old February 14th 08, 10:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Default PDF Attachment not showing in Inbox

1. Sender's probably using MS Outlook.

2. Ask Sender to re-send using Plain Text format.

3. Ask Sender (and any other correspondents who use MS Outlook) to only send
messages to your using Plain Text.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Nick wrote:
I'm using OE 6 with XP Home SP2 and all recent updates, Norton A/V
14.4.0.12. (email scanning now disabled).

A sender is trying to send me a PDF attachment. Not certain what mailer
he's using but I think it's Yahoo. However, I never see the attachment.

If I view the incoming message source I can see the encoded attachment but
there is no attachment icon showing in the inbox.

I can send a PDF to myself without a problem, the sender says other people
can receive the PDF from him. I have received similar files before from
the
same sender without problems.

This problem appears to be similar to that raised in a recent earlier
thread.

Grateful for any ideas or suggestions.
Nick


  #3  
Old February 15th 08, 08:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Nick
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Posts: 7
Default PDF Attachment not showing in Inbox

Thanks for the reply. I've checked with the sender.

1. The sender is using Yahoo (web based) email.

2. I don't think the user has any control over the message format with this
email client.
Looking in the message source I see the message text is sent both as plain
text:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

and HTML:

Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Headers for the attachment a

Content-Type: application/pdf; name="Publisher newsletter FEBRUARY
2008.pdf"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Description: 2126997828-Publisher newsletter FEBRUARY 2008.pdf
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Publisher newsletter FEBRUARY
2008.pdf"

Nick



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
1. Sender's probably using MS Outlook.

2. Ask Sender to re-send using Plain Text format.

3. Ask Sender (and any other correspondents who use MS Outlook) to only
send messages to your using Plain Text.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Nick wrote:
I'm using OE 6 with XP Home SP2 and all recent updates, Norton A/V
14.4.0.12. (email scanning now disabled).

A sender is trying to send me a PDF attachment. Not certain what mailer
he's using but I think it's Yahoo. However, I never see the attachment.

If I view the incoming message source I can see the encoded attachment
but
there is no attachment icon showing in the inbox.

I can send a PDF to myself without a problem, the sender says other
people
can receive the PDF from him. I have received similar files before from
the
same sender without problems.

This problem appears to be similar to that raised in a recent earlier
thread.

Grateful for any ideas or suggestions.
Nick




  #4  
Old February 15th 08, 10:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Default PDF Attachment not showing in Inbox

Three possibilites that I can think of:

1. Yahoo's serverside scanning of outgoing mail is causing the problem; or

2. NAV's Email Protection "horked" your current identity = Try one or more
of your accounts in a new Named Identity (File Identities Add new
identity) and have the same correspondent send you a message with a PDF
attachment.

Assuming all is well, (1) compact all folders in the old identity, (2)
import messages from the old identity into the new one, and then (3) delete
the old one (File Identities Manage Identities).

3. Ask your correspondent to send you a message with a PDF attachment from
an account other than his Yahoo acount and see if the behavior persists *in
the new identity or the original one*.
--
~PA Bear

Nick wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I've checked with the sender.

1. The sender is using Yahoo (web based) email.

2. I don't think the user has any control over the message format with
this
email client.
Looking in the message source I see the message text is sent both as plain
text:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

and HTML:

Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Headers for the attachment a

Content-Type: application/pdf; name="Publisher newsletter FEBRUARY
2008.pdf"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Description: 2126997828-Publisher newsletter FEBRUARY 2008.pdf
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Publisher newsletter FEBRUARY
2008.pdf"

Nick



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
1. Sender's probably using MS Outlook.

2. Ask Sender to re-send using Plain Text format.

3. Ask Sender (and any other correspondents who use MS Outlook) to only
send messages to your using Plain Text.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Nick wrote:
I'm using OE 6 with XP Home SP2 and all recent updates, Norton A/V
14.4.0.12. (email scanning now disabled).

A sender is trying to send me a PDF attachment. Not certain what mailer
he's using but I think it's Yahoo. However, I never see the attachment.

If I view the incoming message source I can see the encoded attachment
but
there is no attachment icon showing in the inbox.

I can send a PDF to myself without a problem, the sender says other
people
can receive the PDF from him. I have received similar files before from
the
same sender without problems.

This problem appears to be similar to that raised in a recent earlier
thread.

Grateful for any ideas or suggestions.
Nick


  #5  
Old February 16th 08, 12:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Michael Santovec
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Posts: 2,875
Default PDF Attachment not showing in Inbox

Are you using any anti-spam software, such as SpamKiller? It's been
know to corrupt the MIME boundary headers with message from some mail
programs. Lotus Notes in particular. But I seem to recall that it can
screw up mail from the Yahoo web mail as well.

See the Problems and Complications section of
Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...de.htm#problem


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Nick" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the reply. I've checked with the sender.

1. The sender is using Yahoo (web based) email.

2. I don't think the user has any control over the message format with
this email client.
Looking in the message source I see the message text is sent both as
plain text:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

and HTML:

Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Headers for the attachment a

Content-Type: application/pdf; name="Publisher newsletter FEBRUARY
2008.pdf"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Description: 2126997828-Publisher newsletter FEBRUARY
2008.pdf
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Publisher newsletter
FEBRUARY 2008.pdf"

Nick



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
1. Sender's probably using MS Outlook.

2. Ask Sender to re-send using Plain Text format.

3. Ask Sender (and any other correspondents who use MS Outlook) to
only send messages to your using Plain Text.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Nick wrote:
I'm using OE 6 with XP Home SP2 and all recent updates, Norton A/V
14.4.0.12. (email scanning now disabled).

A sender is trying to send me a PDF attachment. Not certain what
mailer
he's using but I think it's Yahoo. However, I never see the
attachment.

If I view the incoming message source I can see the encoded
attachment but
there is no attachment icon showing in the inbox.

I can send a PDF to myself without a problem, the sender says other
people
can receive the PDF from him. I have received similar files before
from the
same sender without problems.

This problem appears to be similar to that raised in a recent
earlier
thread.

Grateful for any ideas or suggestions.
Nick






  #6  
Old February 19th 08, 02:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Nick
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Posts: 7
Default PDF Attachment not showing in Inbox

Thanks for your replies.

I am not using any anti-spam software. From the MIME headers it looks as
though Yahoo is using Cloudmark on their outgoing mail.

I haven't had a chance to do a test using a new identity in OE yet.

The message is structured as multipart/mixed and contains a
multipart/alternative section and the application/pdf section. The
multipart/alternative section consists of text/plain and text/html parts. I
have successfully received a similarly structured message from the same
sender containing a Word (.doc) file.

I noticed that in the message source display the MIME headers for the
application/pdf attachment are not highlighted in bold as all the rest are.

I also noticed that the pdf file had a long filename containing quite a few
spaces which I thought could have caused problems. However the sender tried
using a shorter filename but the result was the same.

Nick


  #7  
Old February 19th 08, 07:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Michael Santovec
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Posts: 2,875
Default PDF Attachment not showing in Inbox

If you would like, you may send me one of the problem messages and I'll
take a look at it. It's best if you zip the message so that I get an
exact copy of it. To do that, do a File, Save As to an EML file of a
problem message. Then Right click the saved EML file and select Send
To, Compressed (zipped) folder. Then e-mail me the resulting ZIP file.
Alternately, you can do a Message, Forward As Attachment of a problem
message. This is not as good as the zip file since the headers can be
modified in transit which may obscure the problem. A simple Forward is
worthless since it does not include the headers.


e-mail:

--

Mike -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Nick" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your replies.

I am not using any anti-spam software. From the MIME headers it looks
as though Yahoo is using Cloudmark on their outgoing mail.

I haven't had a chance to do a test using a new identity in OE yet.

The message is structured as multipart/mixed and contains a
multipart/alternative section and the application/pdf section. The
multipart/alternative section consists of text/plain and text/html
parts. I have successfully received a similarly structured message
from the same sender containing a Word (.doc) file.

I noticed that in the message source display the MIME headers for the
application/pdf attachment are not highlighted in bold as all the rest
are.

I also noticed that the pdf file had a long filename containing quite
a few spaces which I thought could have caused problems. However the
sender tried using a shorter filename but the result was the same.

Nick



  #8  
Old February 20th 08, 10:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Michael Santovec
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Posts: 2,875
Default PDF Attachment not showing in Inbox

For those following this issue, I got the sample message from the
poster.

The problem is caused by the Cloudmark anti-spam program, which is
presumably running at his ISP ntlworld.com.

In some cases, it is inserting an incomplete header and losing the blank
line that indicates the end of header causing the following boundary
marker to be ignored.

So what was sent as ----

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1444092360-1203364590=:44990"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID: xxxxx

--0-1444092360-1203364590=:44990
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="0-1770661725-1203364590=:44990"


Arrived as ----

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1444092360-1203364590=:44990"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID: xxxxx
X-Cloudmark-Analysis:
--0-1444092360-1203364590=:44990
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="0-1770661725-1203364590=:44990"

when it should have arrived as ---

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1444092360-1203364590=:44990"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID: xxxxx
X-Cloudmark-Analysis: {cloudmark analysis data}

--0-1444092360-1203364590=:44990
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="0-1770661725-1203364590=:44990"

A workaround for the issue is to save the message to an EML file, then
open in Notepad and insert a blank line after the cloudmark header then
save and double click the fixed EML file to open.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
If you would like, you may send me one of the problem messages and
I'll take a look at it. It's best if you zip the message so that I
get an exact copy of it. To do that, do a File, Save As to an EML
file of a problem message. Then Right click the saved EML file and
select Send To, Compressed (zipped) folder. Then e-mail me the
resulting ZIP file. Alternately, you can do a Message, Forward As
Attachment of a problem message. This is not as good as the zip file
since the headers can be modified in transit which may obscure the
problem. A simple Forward is worthless since it does not include the
headers.


e-mail:

--

Mike -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Nick" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your replies.

I am not using any anti-spam software. From the MIME headers it looks
as though Yahoo is using Cloudmark on their outgoing mail.

I haven't had a chance to do a test using a new identity in OE yet.

The message is structured as multipart/mixed and contains a
multipart/alternative section and the application/pdf section. The
multipart/alternative section consists of text/plain and text/html
parts. I have successfully received a similarly structured message
from the same sender containing a Word (.doc) file.

I noticed that in the message source display the MIME headers for the
application/pdf attachment are not highlighted in bold as all the
rest are.

I also noticed that the pdf file had a long filename containing quite
a few spaces which I thought could have caused problems. However the
sender tried using a shorter filename but the result was the same.

Nick





  #9  
Old April 6th 08, 05:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Alan124
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On Feb 16, 7:22*am, "Michael Santovec"
wrote:
Are you using any anti-spam software, such as SpamKiller? *It's been
know tocorruptthe MIME boundary headers with message from some mail
programs. *Lotus Notes in particular. *But I seem to recall that it can
screw up mail from the Yahoo web mail as well.

See the Problems and Complications section of
Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorialhttp://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/decode.htm#problem

--

Mike -http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

"Nick" wrote in message

...



Thanks for the reply. I've checked with the sender.


1. The sender is using Yahoo (web based) email.


2. I don't think the user has any control over the message format with
this email client.
Looking in the message source I see the message text is sent both as
plain text:


Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


and HTML:


Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


Headers for the attachment a


Content-Type: application/pdf; name="Publisher newsletter *FEBRUARY
2008.pdf"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Description: 2126997828-Publisher newsletter *FEBRUARY
2008.pdf
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Publisher newsletter
FEBRUARY 2008.pdf"


Nick


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
1. Sender's probably using MS Outlook.


2. Ask Sender to re-send using Plain Text format.


3. Ask Sender (and any other correspondents who use MS Outlook) to
only send messages to your using Plain Text.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net
DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/


Nick wrote:
I'm using OE 6 with XP Home SP2 and all recent updates, Norton A/V
14.4.0.12. (email scanning now disabled).


A sender is trying to send *me aPDFattachment. Not certain what
mailer
he's using but I think it's Yahoo. However, I never see the
attachment.


If I view the incoming message source I can see the encoded
attachment but
there is no attachment icon showing in the inbox.


I can send aPDFto myself without a problem, the sender says other
people
can receive thePDFfrom him. I have received similar files before
from the
same sender without problems.


This problem appears to be similar to that raised in a recent
earlier
thread.


Grateful for any ideas or suggestions.
Nick- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hi,

Maybe the pdf attachment is corrupt or something. If it's true, you
can try a utility called Advanced PDF Repair to repair your PDF file.
It works rather well for my corrupt PDF files. Its web address is
http://www.datanumen.com/apdfr/

Hope this will help.

Alan

 




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