A neighbor has a problem forwarding. The email she sends is received and the
subject line indicates it is forwarded, but there is no forwarded message
included.

WIN XP and hotmail

Suggestions please

Charlie

Are you saying that your neighbor is using Hotmail or your are or both?

Is she and/or you using Outlook Express to access Hotmail or the Hotmail
web site?

Once she starts the forward and before sending, does she see the message
text in the message composition window?

After sending, does she see the message text in the Sent Items folder?

I presume that you are receiving one of these messages and not seeing
the message text. If you look at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3 in OE) do
you see the missing text?

Do you see any indication of an attachment?

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"Charlie Bress" wrote in message
...
A neighbor has a problem forwarding. The email she sends is received
and the subject line indicates it is forwarded, but there is no
forwarded message included.

WIN XP and hotmail

Suggestions please

Charlie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Santovec"
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:20 PM
Subject: Forwarding mail


Are you saying that your neighbor is using Hotmail or your are or both?

She is using Hotmail. I am not.

Is she and/or you using Outlook Express to access Hotmail or the Hotmail
web site?

She gets to hotmail via MSN.com

Once she starts the forward and before sending, does she see the message
text in the message composition window?

The message to be forwarded appears in the composition window.


After sending, does she see the message text in the Sent Items folder?

No! and sending it to herself also comes up empty.


I presume that you are receiving one of these messages and not seeing the
message text. If you look at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3 in OE) do you
see the missing text?

I looked at one she sent to me and there was no text


Do you see any indication of an attachment?

Not at all.

Something I noticed (I just got back from a first hand look) is that the
Hotmail screen says "text only". Looking at OE the option for email is
checked for HTML. I could not find any place in the Hotmail setup that would
have set it to text only. This whole problem started about 10 days ago. She
had twoAV programs installed. I tried deleting them both. The free one left
peacefully, but good old Norton leaves pieces of itelf everywhere. Some
files can't easily be removed because they are in use even though I removed
Norton from the start menu and rebooted

Below is the source from one she sent to me. The email addys have been
scrubbed a bit for privacy.


From: Marlene
To: cbress@
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: FW: MOSQUITOES


This is where the email should be

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
Express yourself with free Messenger emoticons. Get them today!
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C890C3.72D0D410
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"
HTMLHEAD
META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1"
STYLE.hmmessage P {
PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: =
0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px
}
BODY.hmmessage {
FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma
}
/STYLE

META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16608" name=3DGENERATOR/HEAD
BODY class=3Dhmmessage bgColor=3D#ffffff
DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D3/FONT /DIV
DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"----- Original Message -----=20
DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"BFrom:/B A=20
title=3D =
"Marlene St.=20
Pierre/A /DIV
DIVBTo:/B A =20
href=3D"mailto:cbress@"cbress@/A /DIV
DIVBSent:/B Friday, March 28, 2008 10:56 AM/DIV
DIVBSubject:/B FW: MOSQUITOES/DIV/DIV
DIVBR/DIVBR
HR
Express yourself with free Messenger emoticons. A=20
href=3D"http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207" target=3D_newGet them today!/A =
/BODY/HTML

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C890C3.72D0D410--









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Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

I've seen several reports in other newsgroups of Hotmail users saying
that messages that they are sending are arriving empty. They hadn't
mentioned that they were forwarded messages. But sounds more like a
Hotmail issue and not specific to your friend.

I'm a little confused by your example. I presume that your friend is
Marlene and you are cbress.

I'm guessing that you cut out a lot at the top of the message source.
From the look of it, there should have been a section

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C890C3.72D0D410
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----
From: Marlene
To: cbress@
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: FW: MOSQUITOES

It looks like Marlene is forwarding a message from her Sent folder that
she previously forwarded to you. Perhaps you had her do that as a test.

Is there any problem if she starts a new message rather than forwarding?

What about replies?

What if you send her a simple text message and have her forward it back
to you?

In any case, this doesn't seem related to Outlook Express and is a
Hotmail web problem.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Charlie Bress" wrote in message
...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Santovec"
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:20 PM
Subject: Forwarding mail


Are you saying that your neighbor is using Hotmail or your are or
both?

She is using Hotmail. I am not.

Is she and/or you using Outlook Express to access Hotmail or the
Hotmail web site?

She gets to hotmail via MSN.com

Once she starts the forward and before sending, does she see the
message text in the message composition window?

The message to be forwarded appears in the composition window.


After sending, does she see the message text in the Sent Items
folder?

No! and sending it to herself also comes up empty.


I presume that you are receiving one of these messages and not seeing
the message text. If you look at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3 in OE)
do you see the missing text?

I looked at one she sent to me and there was no text


Do you see any indication of an attachment?

Not at all.

Something I noticed (I just got back from a first hand look) is that
the Hotmail screen says "text only". Looking at OE the option for
email is checked for HTML. I could not find any place in the Hotmail
setup that would have set it to text only. This whole problem started
about 10 days ago. She had twoAV programs installed. I tried deleting
them both. The free one left peacefully, but good old Norton leaves
pieces of itelf everywhere. Some files can't easily be removed because
they are in use even though I removed Norton from the start menu and
rebooted

Below is the source from one she sent to me. The email addys have been
scrubbed a bit for privacy.


From: Marlene
To: cbress@
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: FW: MOSQUITOES


This is where the email should be

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
Express yourself with free Messenger emoticons. Get them today!
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C890C3.72D0D410
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"
HTMLHEAD
META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1"
STYLE.hmmessage P {
PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: =
0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px
}
BODY.hmmessage {
FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma
}
/STYLE

META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16608" name=3DGENERATOR/HEAD
BODY class=3Dhmmessage bgColor=3D#ffffff
DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D3/FONT /DIV
DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"----- Original Message -----=20
DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"BFrom:/B
A=20
title=3D =
"Marlene St.=20
Pierre/A /DIV
DIVBTo:/B A =20
href=3D"mailto:cbress@"cbress@/A /DIV
DIVBSent:/B Friday, March 28, 2008 10:56 AM/DIV
DIVBSubject:/B FW: MOSQUITOES/DIV/DIV
DIVBR/DIVBR
HR
Express yourself with free Messenger emoticons. A=20
href=3D"http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207" target=3D_newGet them today!/A =
/BODY/HTML

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C890C3.72D0D410--









--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

From MSN Discussions newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...42e9f367bc5520
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
I've seen several reports in other newsgroups of Hotmail users saying that
messages that they are sending are arriving empty. They hadn't mentioned
that they were forwarded messages. But sounds more like a Hotmail issue
and not specific to your friend.

I'm a little confused by your example. I presume that your friend is
Marlene and you are cbress.

I'm guessing that you cut out a lot at the top of the message source. From
the look of it, there should have been a section

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C890C3.72D0D410
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----
From: Marlene
To: cbress@
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: FW: MOSQUITOES

It looks like Marlene is forwarding a message from her Sent folder that
she previously forwarded to you. Perhaps you had her do that as a test.

Is there any problem if she starts a new message rather than forwarding?

What about replies?

What if you send her a simple text message and have her forward it back to
you?

In any case, this doesn't seem related to Outlook Express and is a Hotmail
web problem.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Charlie Bress" wrote in message
...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Santovec"
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:20 PM
Subject: Forwarding mail


Are you saying that your neighbor is using Hotmail or your are or both?

She is using Hotmail. I am not.

Is she and/or you using Outlook Express to access Hotmail or the Hotmail
web site?

She gets to hotmail via MSN.com

Once she starts the forward and before sending, does she see the message
text in the message composition window?

The message to be forwarded appears in the composition window.


After sending, does she see the message text in the Sent Items folder?

No! and sending it to herself also comes up empty.


I presume that you are receiving one of these messages and not seeing
the message text. If you look at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3 in OE) do
you see the missing text?

I looked at one she sent to me and there was no text


Do you see any indication of an attachment?

Not at all.

Something I noticed (I just got back from a first hand look) is that the
Hotmail screen says "text only". Looking at OE the option for email is
checked for HTML. I could not find any place in the Hotmail setup that
would have set it to text only. This whole problem started about 10 days
ago. She had twoAV programs installed. I tried deleting them both. The
free one left peacefully, but good old Norton leaves pieces of itelf
everywhere. Some files can't easily be removed because they are in use
even though I removed Norton from the start menu and rebooted

Below is the source from one she sent to me. The email addys have been
scrubbed a bit for privacy.


From: Marlene
To: cbress@
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: FW: MOSQUITOES


This is where the email should be

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
Express yourself with free Messenger emoticons. Get them today!
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C890C3.72D0D410
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"
HTMLHEAD
META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1"
STYLE.hmmessage P {
PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: =
0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px
}
BODY.hmmessage {
FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma
}
/STYLE

META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16608" name=3DGENERATOR/HEAD
BODY class=3Dhmmessage bgColor=3D#ffffff
DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D3/FONT /DIV
DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"----- Original Message -----=20
DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"BFrom:/B A=20
title=3D =
"Marlene St.=20
Pierre/A /DIV
DIVBTo:/B A =20
href=3D"mailto:cbress@"cbress@/A /DIV
DIVBSent:/B Friday, March 28, 2008 10:56 AM/DIV
DIVBSubject:/B FW: MOSQUITOES/DIV/DIV
DIVBR/DIVBR
HR
Express yourself with free Messenger emoticons. A=20
href=3D"http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207" target=3D_newGet them today!/A =
/BODY/HTML

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C890C3.72D0D410--









--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

cf. http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!4961.entry
--
~PA Bear

Michael Santovec wrote:
I've seen several reports in other newsgroups of Hotmail users saying
that messages that they are sending are arriving empty. They hadn't
mentioned that they were forwarded messages. But sounds more like a
Hotmail issue and not specific to your friend.

I'm a little confused by your example. I presume that your friend is
Marlene and you are cbress.

I'm guessing that you cut out a lot at the top of the message source.
From the look of it, there should have been a section

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C890C3.72D0D410
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----
From: Marlene
To: cbress@
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: FW: MOSQUITOES

It looks like Marlene is forwarding a message from her Sent folder that
she previously forwarded to you. Perhaps you had her do that as a test.

Is there any problem if she starts a new message rather than forwarding?

What about replies?

What if you send her a simple text message and have her forward it back
to you?

In any case, this doesn't seem related to Outlook Express and is a
Hotmail web problem.


"Charlie Bress" wrote in message
...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Santovec"
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:20 PM
Subject: Forwarding mail


Are you saying that your neighbor is using Hotmail or your are or
both?

She is using Hotmail. I am not.

Is she and/or you using Outlook Express to access Hotmail or the
Hotmail web site?

She gets to hotmail via MSN.com

Once she starts the forward and before sending, does she see the
message text in the message composition window?

The message to be forwarded appears in the composition window.


After sending, does she see the message text in the Sent Items
folder?

No! and sending it to herself also comes up empty.


I presume that you are receiving one of these messages and not seeing
the message text. If you look at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3 in OE)
do you see the missing text?

I looked at one she sent to me and there was no text


Do you see any indication of an attachment?

Not at all.

Something I noticed (I just got back from a first hand look) is that
the Hotmail screen says "text only". Looking at OE the option for
email is checked for HTML. I could not find any place in the Hotmail
setup that would have set it to text only. This whole problem started
about 10 days ago. She had twoAV programs installed. I tried deleting
them both. The free one left peacefully, but good old Norton leaves
pieces of itelf everywhere. Some files can't easily be removed because
they are in use even though I removed Norton from the start menu and
rebooted

Below is the source from one she sent to me. The email addys have been
scrubbed a bit for privacy.


From: Marlene
To: cbress@
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: FW: MOSQUITOES


This is where the email should be

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
Express yourself with free Messenger emoticons. Get them today!
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C890C3.72D0D410
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"
HTMLHEAD
META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1"
STYLE.hmmessage P {
PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: =
0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px
}
BODY.hmmessage {
FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma
}
/STYLE

META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16608" name=3DGENERATOR/HEAD
BODY class=3Dhmmessage bgColor=3D#ffffff
DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D3/FONT /DIV
DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"----- Original Message -----=20
DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"BFrom:/B
A=20
title=3D =
"Marlene St.=20
Pierre/A /DIV
DIVBTo:/B A =20
href=3D"mailto:cbress@"cbress@/A /DIV
DIVBSent:/B Friday, March 28, 2008 10:56 AM/DIV
DIVBSubject:/B FW: MOSQUITOES/DIV/DIV
DIVBR/DIVBR
HR
Express yourself with free Messenger emoticons. A=20
href=3D"http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207" target=3D_newGet them today!/A =
/BODY/HTML

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C890C3.72D0D410--









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Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm