[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To
set for OE General]

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
quote
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no
longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via
Outlook Express...
/quote
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry

======================

Please Note:

1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
Express.

2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client from
Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.

3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows
Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
installation!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via the web-interface:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...mail .desktop

Via your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To
set for OE General]

Note: FollowUp-To ignored. Reply posted to all newsgroups since,
according to PA Bear, they should all be related groups in which
continued discussion is on-topic.

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
quote
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no
longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via
Outlook Express...
/quote
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry

Hmm, so they dropped WebDAV access for freebie accounts created after
November 2004. Now they're dropping WebDAV access even for paid
accounts (any create date) and forcing users to their Windows Live Mail
client which has security flaws and defects just so they can push their
Hotmail users to use a client and connect to their HTTP servers that now
support DeltaSync (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeltaSync). All so
Microsoft doesn't have to support already established e-mail protocols
and lock their Hotmail users into using Microsoft e-mail clients.

Well, the microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop group should be
getting a lot more busy. Wonder how many will simply choose to dump a
local e-mail client and just go with the Windows Live Hotmail "full"
webmail interface? Might be what Microsoft intends to happen, anyway,
so they can push their Ajax-enabled webmail interface.

I can get free Hotmail in OE, hehehe!


ju.c


"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
Followup-To
set for OE General]

Note: FollowUp-To ignored. Reply posted to all newsgroups since,
according to PA Bear, they should all be related groups in which
continued discussion is on-topic.

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook
Express
quote
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you
will no
longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail
folders] via
Outlook Express...
/quote
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry

Hmm, so they dropped WebDAV access for freebie accounts created after
November 2004. Now they're dropping WebDAV access even for paid
accounts (any create date) and forcing users to their Windows Live
Mail
client which has security flaws and defects just so they can push
their
Hotmail users to use a client and connect to their HTTP servers that
now
support DeltaSync (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeltaSync). All so
Microsoft doesn't have to support already established e-mail protocols
and lock their Hotmail users into using Microsoft e-mail clients.

Well, the microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop group should be
getting a lot more busy. Wonder how many will simply choose to dump a
local e-mail client and just go with the Windows Live Hotmail "full"
webmail interface? Might be what Microsoft intends to happen, anyway,
so they can push their Ajax-enabled webmail interface.

"ju.c" wrote in message
...
I can get free Hotmail in OE, hehehe!


Well I can get free Hotmail in Thunderbird. So there.

Gordon wrote:

"ju.c" wrote in message
...
I can get free Hotmail in OE, hehehe!


Well I can get free Hotmail in Thunderbird. So there.

Not without using additional software, like the Webmail extension
(http://webmail.mozdev.org/index.html) or FreePOPs (don't know if that
still works). Thunderbird alone, the way you mention, doesn't do
Hotmail.

ju.c wrote:

I can get free Hotmail in OE, hehehe!

And it is after June 30, 2008 wherever you are? What planet would that
be?

HOW ???

Please tell the rest of us who don't want Windows Live Mail
--



"ju.c" wrote:

I can get free Hotmail in OE, hehehe!


ju.c


"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
Followup-To
set for OE General]

Note: FollowUp-To ignored. Reply posted to all newsgroups since,
according to PA Bear, they should all be related groups in which
continued discussion is on-topic.

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook
Express
quote
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you
will no
longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail
folders] via
Outlook Express...
/quote
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry

Hmm, so they dropped WebDAV access for freebie accounts created after
November 2004. Now they're dropping WebDAV access even for paid
accounts (any create date) and forcing users to their Windows Live
Mail
client which has security flaws and defects just so they can push
their
Hotmail users to use a client and connect to their HTTP servers that
now
support DeltaSync (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeltaSync). All so
Microsoft doesn't have to support already established e-mail protocols
and lock their Hotmail users into using Microsoft e-mail clients.

Well, the microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop group should be
getting a lot more busy. Wonder how many will simply choose to dump a
local e-mail client and just go with the Windows Live Hotmail "full"
webmail interface? Might be what Microsoft intends to happen, anyway,
so they can push their Ajax-enabled webmail interface.

You really should get out more often, my dear. First of all, see
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5745.entry (05
Jun-08), which is a follow-up to
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry (17
Apr-08).

Now see
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...e-hotmail.aspx
(13 Jan-09)
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Nancy wrote:
HOW ???

Please tell the rest of us who don't want Windows Live Mail

I can get free Hotmail in OE, hehehe!


ju.c


"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
Followup-To
set for OE General]

Note: FollowUp-To ignored. Reply posted to all newsgroups since,
according to PA Bear, they should all be related groups in which
continued discussion is on-topic.

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook
Express
quote
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you
will no
longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail
folders] via
Outlook Express...
/quote
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry

Hmm, so they dropped WebDAV access for freebie accounts created after
November 2004. Now they're dropping WebDAV access even for paid
accounts (any create date) and forcing users to their Windows Live
Mail
client which has security flaws and defects just so they can push
their
Hotmail users to use a client and connect to their HTTP servers that
now
support DeltaSync (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeltaSync). All so
Microsoft doesn't have to support already established e-mail protocols
and lock their Hotmail users into using Microsoft e-mail clients.

Well, the microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop group should be
getting a lot more busy. Wonder how many will simply choose to dump a
local e-mail client and just go with the Windows Live Hotmail "full"
webmail interface? Might be what Microsoft intends to happen, anyway,
so they can push their Ajax-enabled webmail interface.

VanguardLH wrote:
snip
Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
quote
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will
no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders]
via Outlook Express...
/quote
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry

Hmm, so they dropped WebDAV access for freebie accounts created after
November 2004. Now they're dropping WebDAV access even for paid
accounts (any create date) and forcing users to their Windows Live Mail
client...

NB: There are Windows Live Hotmail subscribers who currently access their
account(s) in OE via POP3. This change will not affect them.
--
~PA Bear

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:


NB: There are Windows Live Hotmail subscribers who currently access
their account(s) in OE via POP3. This change will not affect them.


In fact Windows Live Mail allows you to access hotmail account free of
charge even if it is a new account. The idea is MS wants everybody to
use Windows Live Email. OE is a dated technology and it is time to put
it in the museum!!

hth