For some reason, the "To free up disk space, Outlook Express can compact
messages" reminder is popping up on my computer within two days of my last
compacting. Plus, it doesn't wait until I'm closing out of Outlook. It just
pops up and, if I cancel it, pops up again in about three minutes or less.

The only change I've made to my system recently is installing as new, much
larger hard drive.

I can see the value of compacting messages, but this is becoming bothersome.
What can I do?

Have you compacted and still see the prompt? And are you running XP with
Service Pack 3 installed? If yes to both, the following may apply.

There is a growing number of programs that may be causing this after
installing SP3. Do you have any of the following?

IBM Rapid Access keyboard.
Windows Desktop Search
Window Live Mail
Mailwasher.
Nero.

Various anti-virus, anti-spyware and third party firewalls, especially if
they were running when you installed SP3.

You could also download RegMon:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896652.aspx.

Run the program and monitor the Compact Count Check registry value by
filtering on: Compact Count Check.

This should identify the program that is causing the rapid increase in the
Compact Check Count registry value.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Bobm0001" wrote in message
...
For some reason, the "To free up disk space, Outlook Express can compact
messages" reminder is popping up on my computer within two days of my last
compacting. Plus, it doesn't wait until I'm closing out of Outlook. It
just
pops up and, if I cancel it, pops up again in about three minutes or less.

The only change I've made to my system recently is installing as new, much
larger hard drive.

I can see the value of compacting messages, but this is becoming
bothersome.
What can I do?

I recently installed Windows Desktop Search--I don't remember why, but it was
part of something elso I installed. Should I just remove it?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you compacted and still see the prompt? And are you running XP with
Service Pack 3 installed? If yes to both, the following may apply.

There is a growing number of programs that may be causing this after
installing SP3. Do you have any of the following?

IBM Rapid Access keyboard.
Windows Desktop Search
Window Live Mail
Mailwasher.
Nero.

Various anti-virus, anti-spyware and third party firewalls, especially if
they were running when you installed SP3.

You could also download RegMon:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896652.aspx.

Run the program and monitor the Compact Count Check registry value by
filtering on: Compact Count Check.

This should identify the program that is causing the rapid increase in the
Compact Check Count registry value.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Bobm0001" wrote in message
...
For some reason, the "To free up disk space, Outlook Express can compact
messages" reminder is popping up on my computer within two days of my last
compacting. Plus, it doesn't wait until I'm closing out of Outlook. It
just
pops up and, if I cancel it, pops up again in about three minutes or less.

The only change I've made to my system recently is installing as new, much
larger hard drive.

I can see the value of compacting messages, but this is becoming
bothersome.
What can I do?

Do the symptoms match what I posted? Then yes. It could be something else,
but you need to start somewhere. (This /is/ a relatively new bug).

After you remove it, compact manually, reboot and compact again.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Bobm0001" wrote in message
...
I recently installed Windows Desktop Search--I don't remember why, but it
was
part of something elso I installed. Should I just remove it?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you compacted and still see the prompt? And are you running XP with
Service Pack 3 installed? If yes to both, the following may apply.

There is a growing number of programs that may be causing this after
installing SP3. Do you have any of the following?

IBM Rapid Access keyboard.
Windows Desktop Search
Window Live Mail
Mailwasher.
Nero.

Various anti-virus, anti-spyware and third party firewalls, especially if
they were running when you installed SP3.

You could also download RegMon:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896652.aspx.

Run the program and monitor the Compact Count Check registry value by
filtering on: Compact Count Check.

This should identify the program that is causing the rapid increase in
the
Compact Check Count registry value.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Bobm0001" wrote in message
...
For some reason, the "To free up disk space, Outlook Express can
compact
messages" reminder is popping up on my computer within two days of my
last
compacting. Plus, it doesn't wait until I'm closing out of Outlook.
It
just
pops up and, if I cancel it, pops up again in about three minutes or
less.

The only change I've made to my system recently is installing as new,
much
larger hard drive.

I can see the value of compacting messages, but this is becoming
bothersome.
What can I do?

Bruce

Wouldn't it help when you deal with this problem to point out that the
count is recorded in the Registry. A search on my computer for "Compact
Check Count" gets "0x00000014 (20)" This changes to "0x00000015 (21)"
on a restart. I am not sure, which is the relevant number. If the user
has more than one identity it is necessary to match the guid in the
Registry to that recorded for the Store folder in Outlook Express. Steve
Cochran has written on this topic and provides a tool for manual
compaction etc.
http://www.oehelp.com/OETool/Default.aspx

I expect you know all this but I thought it was worth a mention if users
are seeing the count messed up.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bruce Hagen wrote:
Do the symptoms match what I posted? Then yes. It could be something
else, but you need to start somewhere. (This /is/ a relatively new
bug).
After you remove it, compact manually, reboot and compact again.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
are open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online
in the Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
anything until the compacting is completed.

"Bobm0001" wrote in message
...
I recently installed Windows Desktop Search--I don't remember why,
but it was
part of something elso I installed. Should I just remove it?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you compacted and still see the prompt? And are you running XP
with Service Pack 3 installed? If yes to both, the following may
apply. There is a growing number of programs that may be causing
this after
installing SP3. Do you have any of the following?

IBM Rapid Access keyboard.
Windows Desktop Search
Window Live Mail
Mailwasher.
Nero.

Various anti-virus, anti-spyware and third party firewalls,
especially if they were running when you installed SP3.

You could also download RegMon:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896652.aspx.

Run the program and monitor the Compact Count Check registry value
by filtering on: Compact Count Check.

This should identify the program that is causing the rapid increase
in the
Compact Check Count registry value.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Bobm0001" wrote in message
...
For some reason, the "To free up disk space, Outlook Express can
compact
messages" reminder is popping up on my computer within two days of
my last
compacting. Plus, it doesn't wait until I'm closing out of
Outlook. It
just
pops up and, if I cancel it, pops up again in about three minutes
or less.

The only change I've made to my system recently is installing as
new, much
larger hard drive.

I can see the value of compacting messages, but this is becoming
bothersome.
What can I do?

Repeat: Is WinXP SP3 installed?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Bobm0001 wrote:
I recently installed Windows Desktop Search--I don't remember why, but it
was part of something elso I installed. Should I just remove it?

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you compacted and still see the prompt? And are you running XP with
Service Pack 3 installed? If yes to both, the following may apply.

There is a growing number of programs that may be causing this after
installing SP3. Do you have any of the following?

IBM Rapid Access keyboard.
Windows Desktop Search
Window Live Mail
Mailwasher.
Nero.

Various anti-virus, anti-spyware and third party firewalls, especially if
they were running when you installed SP3.

You could also download RegMon:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896652.aspx.

Run the program and monitor the Compact Count Check registry value by
filtering on: Compact Count Check.

This should identify the program that is causing the rapid increase in
the
Compact Check Count registry value.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Bobm0001" wrote in message
...
For some reason, the "To free up disk space, Outlook Express can compact
messages" reminder is popping up on my computer within two days of my
last
compacting. Plus, it doesn't wait until I'm closing out of Outlook. It
just
pops up and, if I cancel it, pops up again in about three minutes or
less.

The only change I've made to my system recently is installing as new,
much
larger hard drive.

I can see the value of compacting messages, but this is becoming
bothersome.
What can I do?

I've run the REGMON but the only program causing the query is outlook
express. It's very undesirable to compact as this just creates an entire
backup of any saved emails in another directory; buring up valuable hard
drive space. This requires a hunt and search thru the Identities folder to
find these backups and delete them to free up space... or selecting the
Recycle Bin as the 'store folder' and then going thru a process of purging it
as it fills up during the process so as to not 'stall' out the 40GB drive of
the laptop.

So, how do you just turn off the annoying backup/compact message.. or reset
the counter?

Bill

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you compacted and still see the prompt? And are you running XP with
Service Pack 3 installed? If yes to both, the following may apply.

There is a growing number of programs that may be causing this after
installing SP3. Do you have any of the following?

IBM Rapid Access keyboard.
Windows Desktop Search
Window Live Mail
Mailwasher.
Nero.

Various anti-virus, anti-spyware and third party firewalls, especially if
they were running when you installed SP3.

You could also download RegMon:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896652.aspx.

Run the program and monitor the Compact Count Check registry value by
filtering on: Compact Count Check.

This should identify the program that is causing the rapid increase in the
Compact Check Count registry value.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Bobm0001" wrote in message
...
For some reason, the "To free up disk space, Outlook Express can compact
messages" reminder is popping up on my computer within two days of my last
compacting. Plus, it doesn't wait until I'm closing out of Outlook. It
just
pops up and, if I cancel it, pops up again in about three minutes or less.

The only change I've made to my system recently is installing as new, much
larger hard drive.

I can see the value of compacting messages, but this is becoming
bothersome.
What can I do?

Fro more on the key, see:

OE Compacting
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

If you set the key to 0, that will temporarily stop the prompt, until OE
has been opened and closed 100 ore times.

That it keeps coming up indicates that something on your system is
repeatedly opening and closing OE (MSIMN.EXE). To solve the problem,
you need to determine what is causing that.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"wabarron" wrote in message
...
I've run the REGMON but the only program causing the query is outlook
express. It's very undesirable to compact as this just creates an
entire
backup of any saved emails in another directory; buring up valuable
hard
drive space. This requires a hunt and search thru the Identities
folder to
find these backups and delete them to free up space... or selecting
the
Recycle Bin as the 'store folder' and then going thru a process of
purging it
as it fills up during the process so as to not 'stall' out the 40GB
drive of
the laptop.

So, how do you just turn off the annoying backup/compact message.. or
reset
the counter?

Bill

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Have you compacted and still see the prompt? And are you running XP
with
Service Pack 3 installed? If yes to both, the following may apply.

There is a growing number of programs that may be causing this after
installing SP3. Do you have any of the following?

IBM Rapid Access keyboard.
Windows Desktop Search
Window Live Mail
Mailwasher.
Nero.

Various anti-virus, anti-spyware and third party firewalls,
especially if
they were running when you installed SP3.

You could also download RegMon:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896652.aspx.

Run the program and monitor the Compact Count Check registry value by
filtering on: Compact Count Check.

This should identify the program that is causing the rapid increase
in the
Compact Check Count registry value.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Bobm0001" wrote in message
...
For some reason, the "To free up disk space, Outlook Express can
compact
messages" reminder is popping up on my computer within two days of
my last
compacting. Plus, it doesn't wait until I'm closing out of
Outlook. It
just
pops up and, if I cancel it, pops up again in about three minutes
or less.

The only change I've made to my system recently is installing as
new, much
larger hard drive.

I can see the value of compacting messages, but this is becoming
bothersome.
What can I do?

Dear Mike~~

Very useful reply.

There's no other program using MSIMN.exe-- it's me.
I must open/close the program 10 times a day -- closing it
while I run other amateur radio-based programs on the laptop
with its 12 USB ports running all manner of TCP/ip programs..

So.. every 10 days this annoying 'reminder' comes up.

So-- here's the question.
Exactly what keyboard commands do I give to reset the counter?
I'm not a registry edit expert.
Is there a command to eliminate the counter?!

*****
On a longer term issue, Microsoft should consider reversing this
SP2 'addition' for its users.

Best regards,
Bill Barron

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

Fro more on the key, see:

OE Compacting
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

If you set the key to 0, that will temporarily stop the prompt, until OE
has been opened and closed 100 ore times.

That it keeps coming up indicates that something on your system is
repeatedly opening and closing OE (MSIMN.EXE). To solve the problem,
you need to determine what is causing that.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

"wabarron" wrote in message
...
Dear Mike~~

Very useful reply.

There's no other program using MSIMN.exe-- it's me.
I must open/close the program 10 times a day -- closing it
while I run other amateur radio-based programs on the laptop
with its 12 USB ports running all manner of TCP/ip programs..

So.. every 10 days this annoying 'reminder' comes up.

So-- here's the question.
Exactly what keyboard commands do I give to reset the counter?


Alt-F,F,F once a week would do it.
For most reliable results do it with no other OE windows open,
while the main application window is open at the root,
and in a Working Offline state.


---


I'm not a registry edit expert.
Is there a command to eliminate the counter?!

*****
On a longer term issue, Microsoft should consider reversing this
SP2 'addition' for its users.

Best regards,
Bill Barron

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

Fro more on the key, see:

OE Compacting
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

If you set the key to 0, that will temporarily stop the prompt, until OE
has been opened and closed 100 ore times.

That it keeps coming up indicates that something on your system is
repeatedly opening and closing OE (MSIMN.EXE). To solve the problem,
you need to determine what is causing that.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm