Strange issue: usenet threads disappearing after a while (but still on server)

Hi,

My preference is to use the threaded view in OE6.
It might be a wrong setting on user's side, or simply because I have not yet
fully understood the principle of "synchronising."

My default setting is "do not synchronise."

Once a thread does not get any new posts after awhile ( = all read), it
auto-disappears from the list!
However, it always works to reset all and redownload new headers.
Unfortunately, this happens with almost any usenet group and it is about to
get fairly annoying.
Note: the view is set to "Show all news", so this is not the culprit.

I mainly do "auto-synchronising", i. e. I simply click on the name of the
group and the headers are auto-downloaded.

Did anyone notice this behavior too?

-Andreas

Windows version?

My default setting is "do not synchronise."

Select "headers only" and see if the behavior persists.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Andreas Eibach wrote:
My preference is to use the threaded view in OE6.
It might be a wrong setting on user's side, or simply because I have not
yet
fully understood the principle of "synchronising."

My default setting is "do not synchronise."

Once a thread does not get any new posts after awhile ( = all read), it
auto-disappears from the list!
However, it always works to reset all and redownload new headers.
Unfortunately, this happens with almost any usenet group and it is about
to
get fairly annoying.
Note: the view is set to "Show all news", so this is not the culprit.

I mainly do "auto-synchronising", i. e. I simply click on the name of the
group and the headers are auto-downloaded.

Did anyone notice this behavior too?

-Andreas

What do you have for View, Current View for the newsgroup? Are you
hiding read messages?

Also look at Tools, Options, Maintenance. Have you told OE to delete
news posts after a given number of days?


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Andreas Eibach" wrote in message
...
Hi,

My preference is to use the threaded view in OE6.
It might be a wrong setting on user's side, or simply because I have
not yet
fully understood the principle of "synchronising."

My default setting is "do not synchronise."

Once a thread does not get any new posts after awhile ( = all read),
it
auto-disappears from the list!
However, it always works to reset all and redownload new headers.
Unfortunately, this happens with almost any usenet group and it is
about to
get fairly annoying.
Note: the view is set to "Show all news", so this is not the culprit.

I mainly do "auto-synchronising", i. e. I simply click on the name of
the
group and the headers are auto-downloaded.

Did anyone notice this behavior too?

-Andreas

"Michael Santovec" wrote:
What do you have for View, Current View for the newsgroup? Are you
hiding read messages?
No, as I said.


Also look at Tools, Options, Maintenance. Have you told OE to delete
news posts after a given number of days?

ARGH, YES!
I activated this to save disk space, but I was about sure it will delete the
posting _contents_ but keep the headers!!
But it won't. However, it is not clear what it does - it just writes "Delete
news posts". This could as well mean the contents only.

Thank you very much!

-Andreas

Andreas Eibach wrote:
"Michael Santovec" wrote:
What do you have for View, Current View for the newsgroup? Are you
hiding read messages?
No, as I said.


Also look at Tools, Options, Maintenance. Have you told OE to delete
news posts after a given number of days?

ARGH, YES!

But it won't. However, it is not clear what it does - it just writes
"Delete
news posts". This could as well mean the contents only.

That settings DOES delete downloaded message bodies but it does NOT delete
the headers. If the headers have gone missing, they must have been deleted
from the newsserver in question.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
But it won't. However, it is not clear what it does - it just writes
"Delete
news posts". This could as well mean the contents only.

That settings DOES delete downloaded message bodies but it does NOT delete
the headers.

But it did. Well ...

If the headers have gone missing, they must have been deleted
from the newsserver in question.

No they mustn't. (Maybe a malfunction)
Since I can still re-retrieve them with a full reset.
(Properties - Local File -Reset)

I will simply change the "delete news posts" setting to ~1 month - this
should suffice to comply with the "usenet discussion life cycle"

-Andreas

Andreas Eibach wrote:
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
But it won't. However, it is not clear what it does - it just writes
"Delete
news posts". This could as well mean the contents only.

That settings DOES delete downloaded message bodies but it does NOT
delete
the headers.

But it did. Well ...

If the headers have gone missing, they must have been deleted
from the newsserver in question.

No they mustn't. (Maybe a malfunction)
Since I can still re-retrieve them with a full reset.
(Properties - Local File -Reset)

I will simply change the "delete news posts" setting to ~1 month - this
should suffice to comply with the "usenet discussion life cycle"

Don't be so sure. Some newsservers (e.g., the one you used to post your
message) have a very short retention policy (e.g., 24 hours or less).
Messages on the free public MS newssever (news://msnews.microsoft.com) are
retained for a minimum of 90 days by default.

OE can only display messages on the server. If they've been removed from
the server, they WILL be removed in OE the next time OE syncs with the
server. If Resetting the newsgroup doesn't give you the messages, they've
been deleted from the server.

Repost: OE Tools | Options | Maintenance | Delete news messages... will ONLY
remove downloaded message bodies, not the headers.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

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"Michael Santovec" wrote:
What do you have for View, Current View for the newsgroup? Are you
hiding read messages?
No, as I said.


Also look at Tools, Options, Maintenance. Have you told OE to delete
news posts after a given number of days?

ARGH, YES!
I activated this to save disk space, but I was about sure it will delete
the
posting _contents_ but keep the headers!!
But it won't. However, it is not clear what it does - it just writes
"Delete
news posts". This could as well mean the contents only.

Thank you very much!

-Andreas