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  #11  
Old May 16th 09, 09:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Default OE6 and Internet Explorer 8

...I did have
Spybot Search and Destroy immunization active and Spyware Blaster.


See this related discussion:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...9478566ac1ee9b

Also see:

Internet Explorer 8 takes longer than expected to start:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969938
--
IE-specific newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...plorer.general

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Andrea wrote:
I don't use automatic updates, but I realize that doesn't mean that I
didn't
install a corrupted version. I don't use any third-party toolbars or
Windows
themes, so that wouldn't be the cause. I did close all applications, but I
didn't disable the antivirus, which I probably should have done. I did
have
Spybot Search and Destroy immunization active and Spyware Blaster. It
hadn't
occurred to me that they would cause a problem becasue I wasn't running
any
scans at the time, but thanks for the heads up. I didn't have any software
firewalls installed at the time. I'll probably try to upgrade to IE8
another
time, but for now I'm going to just stay with 7. Thanks for your support.

Andrea

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Installing IE8 *properly* shouldn't have had any effect whatsoever on
OE, Andrea.

My personal recommendations include:

= Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!!

= Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows
Live) and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.

= Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon)
before installing or uninstalling IE8.

= I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application
and any anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than
Defender's) before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If
you're running a third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it
and then enabling the Windows Firewall before installing (or
uninstalling) an IE upgrade.
= Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8. [Do NOT use
System Restore to remove/uninstall IE8; instead, see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700. Then use the Restore Point
prior to reinstalling IE8 per these recommendations. Norton users
will need to see http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html.]

= Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.

= For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your
anti-virus application, any anti-spyware applications (other than
Defender), and your third-party firewall (if any) are supported in
IE8 Final before you decide install it.

====================
General OE Caveats for best reliability:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to
local folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not
attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
Automatic Compacting is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional
protection:
Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm


Andrea wrote:
Thanks for the link, but everything else besides OE wasn't normal.
The upgraded IE8 loaded extremely slowly and then took another 3 or
so minutes to connect to the Internet. I didn't notice this at first
because IE isn't my default browser. I also noticed that CPU usage
increased, sometimes to 100%, when I opened OE or anything else. And
when I opened MS Word, I kept getting an error about the printer not
responding even though I wasn't trying to print. I didn't notice all
of this right away. I ended up calling
MS today, which is offering free support around IE8 until December.
They suggested that I uninstall IE8 and revert to IE7, which they
helped me to do, and this solved all the above problems. There's
most likely a conflict with one or more programs on my computer, but
that would take a lot of time
and effort to figure out. I use IE so rarely that it didn't seem
important to upgrade right now.

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Start he http://www.insideoe.com/problems/performance.htm

Andrea wrote:
Since upgrading to IE8, it takes several minutes for Outlook
Express to open
and then another 2 or 3 minutes to open an email or newsgroup post
that's already downloaded to my hard drive. Is there a conflict? If
so, any solutions? Thanks.


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Old May 17th 09, 03:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 15:37:22 -0400, Andrea wrote:

I did have Spybot Search and Destroy immunization active and Spyware
Blaster.


Either of which could have interfered with the proper installation of MSIE
8. Internet Explorer is more than just a browser, it is a part of the
operating system. So any Microsoft update is going to be changing underlying
OS files. Anti malware applications, such as Spybot S&D, or Spyware Blaster,
could see OS file changes as a malicious threat, and interfere with the
changes the update is trying to make. Resulting in a corrupted install of
the update.

--
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Are you going to pull those pistols, or whistle Dixie?
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Old May 17th 09, 03:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 15:37:22 -0400, Andrea wrote:

I did have Spybot Search and Destroy immunization active and Spyware
Blaster.


Either of which could have interfered with the proper installation of MSIE
8. Internet Explorer is more than just a browser, it is a part of the
operating system. So any Microsoft update is going to be changing underlying
OS files. Anti malware applications, such as Spybot S&D, or Spyware Blaster,
could see OS file changes as a malicious threat, and interfere with the
changes the update is trying to make. Resulting in a corrupted install of
the update.

--
Josey Wales
Are you going to pull those pistols, or whistle Dixie?
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Old May 17th 09, 07:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Default OE6 and Internet Explorer 8

[Finally, somebody drinks the Kool Aid! eg ]

Josey Wales wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 15:37:22 -0400, Andrea wrote:

I did have Spybot Search and Destroy immunization active and Spyware
Blaster.


Either of which could have interfered with the proper installation of MSIE
8. Internet Explorer is more than just a browser, it is a part of the
operating system. So any Microsoft update is going to be changing
underlying
OS files. Anti malware applications, such as Spybot S&D, or Spyware
Blaster,
could see OS file changes as a malicious threat, and interfere with the
changes the update is trying to make. Resulting in a corrupted install of
the update.


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Old May 17th 09, 07:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Default OE6 and Internet Explorer 8

[Finally, somebody drinks the Kool Aid! eg ]

Josey Wales wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 15:37:22 -0400, Andrea wrote:

I did have Spybot Search and Destroy immunization active and Spyware
Blaster.


Either of which could have interfered with the proper installation of MSIE
8. Internet Explorer is more than just a browser, it is a part of the
operating system. So any Microsoft update is going to be changing
underlying
OS files. Anti malware applications, such as Spybot S&D, or Spyware
Blaster,
could see OS file changes as a malicious threat, and interfere with the
changes the update is trying to make. Resulting in a corrupted install of
the update.


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Old May 31st 09, 09:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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"Andrea" wrote in message
...
Since upgrading to IE8, it takes several minutes for Outlook Express to
open and then another 2 or 3 minutes to open an email or newsgroup post
that's already downloaded to my hard drive. Is there a conflict? If so,
any solutions? Thanks.



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Old May 31st 09, 09:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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"Andrea" wrote in message
...
Since upgrading to IE8, it takes several minutes for Outlook Express to
open and then another 2 or 3 minutes to open an email or newsgroup post
that's already downloaded to my hard drive. Is there a conflict? If so,
any solutions? Thanks.



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Old May 31st 09, 11:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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noorhussain wrote:
"Andrea" wrote in message
...
Since upgrading to IE8, it takes several minutes for Outlook Express
to open and then another 2 or 3 minutes to open an email or
newsgroup post that's already downloaded to my hard drive. Is there
a conflict? If so, any solutions? Thanks.


I'm not sure what the story is with IE8 but it's bogging my system too.
I've uninstalled it and 7 still worked fine, reinstalled it and
everything bogged down again. If I can't find out what's slowing things
down I'm going back to 7 shortly until an SP or something makes it work
right.

Twayne`


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Old May 31st 09, 11:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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noorhussain wrote:
"Andrea" wrote in message
...
Since upgrading to IE8, it takes several minutes for Outlook Express
to open and then another 2 or 3 minutes to open an email or
newsgroup post that's already downloaded to my hard drive. Is there
a conflict? If so, any solutions? Thanks.


I'm not sure what the story is with IE8 but it's bogging my system too.
I've uninstalled it and 7 still worked fine, reinstalled it and
everything bogged down again. If I can't find out what's slowing things
down I'm going back to 7 shortly until an SP or something makes it work
right.

Twayne`


  #20  
Old June 1st 09, 05:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Andrea
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If you read the previous posts in this thread and the links that are
provided (and discussions about this in various other non-Microsoft
newsgroups), you'll see that IE8 doesn't play nicely with several
anti-spyware programs that provide protection, e.g., IE-Spyad, Spyware
Blaster, the immunization from Spybot S&D. What has apparently happened is
that these programs together with IE8's new Loosely Couple IE (LCIE) feature
place too many domains in the restricted sites zone, causing the slowness
and the CPU spiking. This was known from beta testing, so I'm not sure why
it wasn't made clear to people before we installed IE8 and slowed our
systems to a crawl. It looks as if we have to choose between the protection
we've been using in the past--and either uninstall IE8 and stay with IE7
and/or use a different browser--or uninstall the other programs and use IE8.
Of course Microsoft expects all the other programs to create revised
versions that are compatible with IE8, but many people are calling on MS to
make the needed changes. I can't see that happening anytime soon.

Zone Twayne wrote:
noorhussain wrote:
"Andrea" wrote in message
...
Since upgrading to IE8, it takes several minutes for Outlook Express
to open and then another 2 or 3 minutes to open an email or
newsgroup post that's already downloaded to my hard drive. Is there
a conflict? If so, any solutions? Thanks.


I'm not sure what the story is with IE8 but it's bogging my system
too. I've uninstalled it and 7 still worked fine, reinstalled it and
everything bogged down again. If I can't find out what's slowing
things down I'm going back to 7 shortly until an SP or something
makes it work right.

Twayne`



 




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