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  #1  
Old March 22nd 06, 06:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Jim Pickering
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Posts: 230
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The only thing to remember is that any change to the primary account will
have to be copied/merged into the registry of the cloned machine to keep
everything happy. Other than that, it works quite well. Good luck.

Also, another trick that works for many is just to set both accounts to
leave a copy of messages on the server (deleting them after 'xx' days so
they don't accumulate) and then just download them to both machine on a
regular basis. (Tools/Accounts - Mail tab, double click the desired
account, look on the Advanced tab at the bottom of the page.)
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Sorry Jim I couldn't get the first link to work till now that is just what
I have been looking for .
Thanks

Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Well, cloning (same identity on two machines) is not that difficult. Did
you even read how to do it at the website I posted? There are only 4
keys involved that need to exported. If you're unwilling to do it, then
I don't know of another way that would work.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
thanks Jim but I am only using the laptop I don't use A desktop machine
as well I have tried using a file to transfer the messages to but it
doesn't work that well.
I have to keep transferring messages back & forth constantly as I can be
connected to the domain for 2hrs in the morning then go on site then
back on the domain
so I have to keep transferring messages both ways 3 or 4 times a day.
What I need to do is be able to use the same identity when I am
connected to the domain or standalone on site ,most of my messages are
cad drawings or pictures which I need to be able to access all the time
for working on & sending back to clients
Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only way to do that is to make the laptop a "clone" of the Desktop
machine. For how to clone Outlook Express on two machines, see the
info at this link:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm

And, any changes to the Desktop setup, such as adding/deleting local
folders, or adding/deleting a newsgroup subscription will require a
"Re-cloning" of the laptop. It's not too much work but it can become a
PITA trying to keep two machines in sync. Do you really have to do
this? Why not just copy the desired messages to a Transfer folder for
this purpose? If you want to try that, see the info in the last
paragraph at this link for details:
http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Could anybody please tell me how I can use the same identity in
outlook express when my laptop top is connected to my server or when I
am off site with it , as at the moment I cannot see any emails I
received when connected to the server when I am not in the office &
visa versa

Tiny








  #2  
Old March 23rd 06, 02:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Ron Sommer
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Posts: 1,463
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Jim,
Tiny only has the laptop.
When at work he connects using a domain and uses one Identity.
He uses another Identity when off the domain.
Transferring sent and received messages between the two Identities is what
Tiny is trying to eliminate.
Cloning the Identities will not solve the problem.
This would also mean that if he clones the domain Identity, then he won't
have access when off the domain.
And cloning the off domain Identity, will mean that he may not connect when
in the office.
Have the two Identities use the same message store is what Tiny needs.
Or he needs to have OE set to not make a connection and make the connection
before opening OE.
--
Ron Sommer

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only thing to remember is that any change to the primary account will
have to be copied/merged into the registry of the cloned machine to keep
everything happy. Other than that, it works quite well. Good luck.

Also, another trick that works for many is just to set both accounts to
leave a copy of messages on the server (deleting them after 'xx' days so
they don't accumulate) and then just download them to both machine on a
regular basis. (Tools/Accounts - Mail tab, double click the desired
account, look on the Advanced tab at the bottom of the page.)
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Sorry Jim I couldn't get the first link to work till now that is just
what I have been looking for .
Thanks

Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Well, cloning (same identity on two machines) is not that difficult.
Did you even read how to do it at the website I posted? There are only
4 keys involved that need to exported. If you're unwilling to do it,
then I don't know of another way that would work.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
thanks Jim but I am only using the laptop I don't use A desktop machine
as well I have tried using a file to transfer the messages to but it
doesn't work that well.
I have to keep transferring messages back & forth constantly as I can
be connected to the domain for 2hrs in the morning then go on site
then back on the domain
so I have to keep transferring messages both ways 3 or 4 times a day.
What I need to do is be able to use the same identity when I am
connected to the domain or standalone on site ,most of my messages are
cad drawings or pictures which I need to be able to access all the time
for working on & sending back to clients
Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only way to do that is to make the laptop a "clone" of the Desktop
machine. For how to clone Outlook Express on two machines, see the
info at this link:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm

And, any changes to the Desktop setup, such as adding/deleting local
folders, or adding/deleting a newsgroup subscription will require a
"Re-cloning" of the laptop. It's not too much work but it can become
a PITA trying to keep two machines in sync. Do you really have to do
this? Why not just copy the desired messages to a Transfer folder for
this purpose? If you want to try that, see the info in the last
paragraph at this link for details:
http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
helped.
Thanks.


"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Could anybody please tell me how I can use the same identity in
outlook express when my laptop top is connected to my server or when
I am off site with it , as at the moment I cannot see any emails I
received when connected to the server when I am not in the office &
visa versa

Tiny










  #3  
Old March 23rd 06, 04:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Jim Pickering
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Posts: 230
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Ron:

It won't work though. He cannot use the message store on another machine
without physically moving the complete set of DBX files and importing them,
whether by telling Outlook Express to use the copied files or by using OE
File/Import.

How then do you propose that he keep them current with each other? Either
leave a copy on the server and download to both machines or forget about it
since he does not want to spend time copying files. The info is not going
to "fly" with any type of pixie of magic dust between the machines, just
because he at one time copied over the same message store, i.e., it will
work for that one moment that is frozen in time, but that's it.

Now if you know of some other way it's going to work, share it with all of
us. He can either (1) use the method of leaving copies of all messages on
the server, or (2) use Briefcase or something similar to transfer info, or
(3) use a Transfer.dbx folder and copy Transfer.dbx between the machines to
overwrite the older one on the laptop.

The only reason I suggested cloning is his initial request was to have the
identities be the same.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Jim,
Tiny only has the laptop.
When at work he connects using a domain and uses one Identity.
He uses another Identity when off the domain.
Transferring sent and received messages between the two Identities is what
Tiny is trying to eliminate.
Cloning the Identities will not solve the problem.
This would also mean that if he clones the domain Identity, then he won't
have access when off the domain.
And cloning the off domain Identity, will mean that he may not connect
when in the office.
Have the two Identities use the same message store is what Tiny needs.
Or he needs to have OE set to not make a connection and make the
connection before opening OE.
--
Ron Sommer

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only thing to remember is that any change to the primary account will
have to be copied/merged into the registry of the cloned machine to keep
everything happy. Other than that, it works quite well. Good luck.

Also, another trick that works for many is just to set both accounts to
leave a copy of messages on the server (deleting them after 'xx' days so
they don't accumulate) and then just download them to both machine on a
regular basis. (Tools/Accounts - Mail tab, double click the desired
account, look on the Advanced tab at the bottom of the page.)
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Sorry Jim I couldn't get the first link to work till now that is just
what I have been looking for .
Thanks

Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Well, cloning (same identity on two machines) is not that difficult.
Did you even read how to do it at the website I posted? There are only
4 keys involved that need to exported. If you're unwilling to do it,
then I don't know of another way that would work.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
thanks Jim but I am only using the laptop I don't use A desktop
machine as well I have tried using a file to transfer the messages to
but it doesn't work that well.
I have to keep transferring messages back & forth constantly as I can
be connected to the domain for 2hrs in the morning then go on site
then back on the domain
so I have to keep transferring messages both ways 3 or 4 times a day.
What I need to do is be able to use the same identity when I am
connected to the domain or standalone on site ,most of my messages are
cad drawings or pictures which I need to be able to access all the
time for working on & sending back to clients
Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only way to do that is to make the laptop a "clone" of the
Desktop machine. For how to clone Outlook Express on two machines,
see the info at this link:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm

And, any changes to the Desktop setup, such as adding/deleting local
folders, or adding/deleting a newsgroup subscription will require a
"Re-cloning" of the laptop. It's not too much work but it can become
a PITA trying to keep two machines in sync. Do you really have to do
this? Why not just copy the desired messages to a Transfer folder for
this purpose? If you want to try that, see the info in the last
paragraph at this link for details:
http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
helped.
Thanks.


"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Could anybody please tell me how I can use the same identity in
outlook express when my laptop top is connected to my server or when
I am off site with it , as at the moment I cannot see any emails I
received when connected to the server when I am not in the office &
visa versa

Tiny











  #4  
Old March 23rd 06, 05:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Ron Sommer
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Posts: 1,463
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Jim:

There is no other machine.
This is from Tiny's second email:
thanks Jim but I am only using the laptop I don't use A desktop machine as
well
--
Ron Sommer

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Ron:

It won't work though. He cannot use the message store on another machine
without physically moving the complete set of DBX files and importing
them, whether by telling Outlook Express to use the copied files or by
using OE File/Import.

How then do you propose that he keep them current with each other? Either
leave a copy on the server and download to both machines or forget about
it since he does not want to spend time copying files. The info is not
going to "fly" with any type of pixie of magic dust between the machines,
just because he at one time copied over the same message store, i.e., it
will work for that one moment that is frozen in time, but that's it.

Now if you know of some other way it's going to work, share it with all of
us. He can either (1) use the method of leaving copies of all messages on
the server, or (2) use Briefcase or something similar to transfer info, or
(3) use a Transfer.dbx folder and copy Transfer.dbx between the machines
to overwrite the older one on the laptop.

The only reason I suggested cloning is his initial request was to have the
identities be the same.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Jim,
Tiny only has the laptop.
When at work he connects using a domain and uses one Identity.
He uses another Identity when off the domain.
Transferring sent and received messages between the two Identities is
what Tiny is trying to eliminate.
Cloning the Identities will not solve the problem.
This would also mean that if he clones the domain Identity, then he won't
have access when off the domain.
And cloning the off domain Identity, will mean that he may not connect
when in the office.
Have the two Identities use the same message store is what Tiny needs.
Or he needs to have OE set to not make a connection and make the
connection before opening OE.
--
Ron Sommer

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only thing to remember is that any change to the primary account
will have to be copied/merged into the registry of the cloned machine to
keep everything happy. Other than that, it works quite well. Good
luck.

Also, another trick that works for many is just to set both accounts to
leave a copy of messages on the server (deleting them after 'xx' days so
they don't accumulate) and then just download them to both machine on a
regular basis. (Tools/Accounts - Mail tab, double click the desired
account, look on the Advanced tab at the bottom of the page.)
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Sorry Jim I couldn't get the first link to work till now that is just
what I have been looking for .
Thanks

Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Well, cloning (same identity on two machines) is not that difficult.
Did you even read how to do it at the website I posted? There are
only 4 keys involved that need to exported. If you're unwilling to do
it, then I don't know of another way that would work.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
thanks Jim but I am only using the laptop I don't use A desktop
machine as well I have tried using a file to transfer the messages to
but it doesn't work that well.
I have to keep transferring messages back & forth constantly as I can
be connected to the domain for 2hrs in the morning then go on site
then back on the domain
so I have to keep transferring messages both ways 3 or 4 times a day.
What I need to do is be able to use the same identity when I am
connected to the domain or standalone on site ,most of my messages
are cad drawings or pictures which I need to be able to access all
the time for working on & sending back to clients
Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only way to do that is to make the laptop a "clone" of the
Desktop machine. For how to clone Outlook Express on two machines,
see the info at this link:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm

And, any changes to the Desktop setup, such as adding/deleting local
folders, or adding/deleting a newsgroup subscription will require a
"Re-cloning" of the laptop. It's not too much work but it can
become a PITA trying to keep two machines in sync. Do you really
have to do this? Why not just copy the desired messages to a
Transfer folder for this purpose? If you want to try that, see the
info in the last paragraph at this link for details:
http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
helped.
Thanks.


"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Could anybody please tell me how I can use the same identity in
outlook express when my laptop top is connected to my server or
when I am off site with it , as at the moment I cannot see any
emails I received when connected to the server when I am not in the
office & visa versa

Tiny













  #5  
Old March 23rd 06, 04:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
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Posts: 2,353
Default Identities

You forgot about OEX (www.oehelp.com/OEX/). You can point to a dbx file
across a network and with a button click import it into another message
store.

steve


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Ron:

It won't work though. He cannot use the message store on another machine
without physically moving the complete set of DBX files and importing
them, whether by telling Outlook Express to use the copied files or by
using OE File/Import.

How then do you propose that he keep them current with each other? Either
leave a copy on the server and download to both machines or forget about
it since he does not want to spend time copying files. The info is not
going to "fly" with any type of pixie of magic dust between the machines,
just because he at one time copied over the same message store, i.e., it
will work for that one moment that is frozen in time, but that's it.

Now if you know of some other way it's going to work, share it with all of
us. He can either (1) use the method of leaving copies of all messages on
the server, or (2) use Briefcase or something similar to transfer info, or
(3) use a Transfer.dbx folder and copy Transfer.dbx between the machines
to overwrite the older one on the laptop.

The only reason I suggested cloning is his initial request was to have the
identities be the same.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Jim,
Tiny only has the laptop.
When at work he connects using a domain and uses one Identity.
He uses another Identity when off the domain.
Transferring sent and received messages between the two Identities is
what Tiny is trying to eliminate.
Cloning the Identities will not solve the problem.
This would also mean that if he clones the domain Identity, then he won't
have access when off the domain.
And cloning the off domain Identity, will mean that he may not connect
when in the office.
Have the two Identities use the same message store is what Tiny needs.
Or he needs to have OE set to not make a connection and make the
connection before opening OE.
--
Ron Sommer

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only thing to remember is that any change to the primary account
will have to be copied/merged into the registry of the cloned machine to
keep everything happy. Other than that, it works quite well. Good
luck.

Also, another trick that works for many is just to set both accounts to
leave a copy of messages on the server (deleting them after 'xx' days so
they don't accumulate) and then just download them to both machine on a
regular basis. (Tools/Accounts - Mail tab, double click the desired
account, look on the Advanced tab at the bottom of the page.)
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Sorry Jim I couldn't get the first link to work till now that is just
what I have been looking for .
Thanks

Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Well, cloning (same identity on two machines) is not that difficult.
Did you even read how to do it at the website I posted? There are
only 4 keys involved that need to exported. If you're unwilling to do
it, then I don't know of another way that would work.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
thanks Jim but I am only using the laptop I don't use A desktop
machine as well I have tried using a file to transfer the messages to
but it doesn't work that well.
I have to keep transferring messages back & forth constantly as I can
be connected to the domain for 2hrs in the morning then go on site
then back on the domain
so I have to keep transferring messages both ways 3 or 4 times a day.
What I need to do is be able to use the same identity when I am
connected to the domain or standalone on site ,most of my messages
are cad drawings or pictures which I need to be able to access all
the time for working on & sending back to clients
Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only way to do that is to make the laptop a "clone" of the
Desktop machine. For how to clone Outlook Express on two machines,
see the info at this link:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm

And, any changes to the Desktop setup, such as adding/deleting local
folders, or adding/deleting a newsgroup subscription will require a
"Re-cloning" of the laptop. It's not too much work but it can
become a PITA trying to keep two machines in sync. Do you really
have to do this? Why not just copy the desired messages to a
Transfer folder for this purpose? If you want to try that, see the
info in the last paragraph at this link for details:
http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
helped.
Thanks.


"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Could anybody please tell me how I can use the same identity in
outlook express when my laptop top is connected to my server or
when I am off site with it , as at the moment I cannot see any
emails I received when connected to the server when I am not in the
office & visa versa

Tiny












  #6  
Old March 23rd 06, 05:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Ron Sommer
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,463
Default Identities

Sorry Steve.
OEX is not needed because in this case there are two Identities on one
computer, not two computers as Jim thinks.
--
Ron Sommer

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
You forgot about OEX (www.oehelp.com/OEX/). You can point to a dbx file
across a network and with a button click import it into another message
store.

steve


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Ron:

It won't work though. He cannot use the message store on another machine
without physically moving the complete set of DBX files and importing
them, whether by telling Outlook Express to use the copied files or by
using OE File/Import.

How then do you propose that he keep them current with each other?
Either leave a copy on the server and download to both machines or forget
about it since he does not want to spend time copying files. The info is
not going to "fly" with any type of pixie of magic dust between the
machines, just because he at one time copied over the same message store,
i.e., it will work for that one moment that is frozen in time, but that's
it.

Now if you know of some other way it's going to work, share it with all
of us. He can either (1) use the method of leaving copies of all
messages on the server, or (2) use Briefcase or something similar to
transfer info, or (3) use a Transfer.dbx folder and copy Transfer.dbx
between the machines to overwrite the older one on the laptop.

The only reason I suggested cloning is his initial request was to have
the identities be the same.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Jim,
Tiny only has the laptop.
When at work he connects using a domain and uses one Identity.
He uses another Identity when off the domain.
Transferring sent and received messages between the two Identities is
what Tiny is trying to eliminate.
Cloning the Identities will not solve the problem.
This would also mean that if he clones the domain Identity, then he
won't have access when off the domain.
And cloning the off domain Identity, will mean that he may not connect
when in the office.
Have the two Identities use the same message store is what Tiny needs.
Or he needs to have OE set to not make a connection and make the
connection before opening OE.
--
Ron Sommer

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only thing to remember is that any change to the primary account
will have to be copied/merged into the registry of the cloned machine
to keep everything happy. Other than that, it works quite well. Good
luck.

Also, another trick that works for many is just to set both accounts to
leave a copy of messages on the server (deleting them after 'xx' days
so they don't accumulate) and then just download them to both machine
on a regular basis. (Tools/Accounts - Mail tab, double click the
desired account, look on the Advanced tab at the bottom of the page.)
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Sorry Jim I couldn't get the first link to work till now that is just
what I have been looking for .
Thanks

Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Well, cloning (same identity on two machines) is not that difficult.
Did you even read how to do it at the website I posted? There are
only 4 keys involved that need to exported. If you're unwilling to
do it, then I don't know of another way that would work.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
thanks Jim but I am only using the laptop I don't use A desktop
machine as well I have tried using a file to transfer the messages
to but it doesn't work that well.
I have to keep transferring messages back & forth constantly as I
can be connected to the domain for 2hrs in the morning then go on
site then back on the domain
so I have to keep transferring messages both ways 3 or 4 times a
day.
What I need to do is be able to use the same identity when I am
connected to the domain or standalone on site ,most of my messages
are cad drawings or pictures which I need to be able to access all
the time for working on & sending back to clients
Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only way to do that is to make the laptop a "clone" of the
Desktop machine. For how to clone Outlook Express on two machines,
see the info at this link:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm

And, any changes to the Desktop setup, such as adding/deleting
local folders, or adding/deleting a newsgroup subscription will
require a "Re-cloning" of the laptop. It's not too much work but
it can become a PITA trying to keep two machines in sync. Do you
really have to do this? Why not just copy the desired messages to a
Transfer folder for this purpose? If you want to try that, see the
info in the last paragraph at this link for details:
http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
helped.
Thanks.


"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Could anybody please tell me how I can use the same identity in
outlook express when my laptop top is connected to my server or
when I am off site with it , as at the moment I cannot see any
emails I received when connected to the server when I am not in
the office & visa versa

Tiny














  #7  
Old March 23rd 06, 06:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Jim Pickering
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 230
Default Identities

Let's just wait until Tiny comes back and tells us what he really needs or
if he's straightened things out. This is not really helpful to the original
poster.
--
Jim Pickering


"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Sorry Steve.
OEX is not needed because in this case there are two Identities on one
computer, not two computers as Jim thinks.
--
Ron Sommer

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
You forgot about OEX (www.oehelp.com/OEX/). You can point to a dbx file
across a network and with a button click import it into another message
store.

steve


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Ron:

It won't work though. He cannot use the message store on another
machine without physically moving the complete set of DBX files and
importing them, whether by telling Outlook Express to use the copied
files or by using OE File/Import.

How then do you propose that he keep them current with each other?
Either leave a copy on the server and download to both machines or
forget about it since he does not want to spend time copying files. The
info is not going to "fly" with any type of pixie of magic dust between
the machines, just because he at one time copied over the same message
store, i.e., it will work for that one moment that is frozen in time,
but that's it.

Now if you know of some other way it's going to work, share it with all
of us. He can either (1) use the method of leaving copies of all
messages on the server, or (2) use Briefcase or something similar to
transfer info, or (3) use a Transfer.dbx folder and copy Transfer.dbx
between the machines to overwrite the older one on the laptop.

The only reason I suggested cloning is his initial request was to have
the identities be the same.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Jim,
Tiny only has the laptop.
When at work he connects using a domain and uses one Identity.
He uses another Identity when off the domain.
Transferring sent and received messages between the two Identities is
what Tiny is trying to eliminate.
Cloning the Identities will not solve the problem.
This would also mean that if he clones the domain Identity, then he
won't have access when off the domain.
And cloning the off domain Identity, will mean that he may not connect
when in the office.
Have the two Identities use the same message store is what Tiny needs.
Or he needs to have OE set to not make a connection and make the
connection before opening OE.
--
Ron Sommer

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only thing to remember is that any change to the primary account
will have to be copied/merged into the registry of the cloned machine
to keep everything happy. Other than that, it works quite well. Good
luck.

Also, another trick that works for many is just to set both accounts
to leave a copy of messages on the server (deleting them after 'xx'
days so they don't accumulate) and then just download them to both
machine on a regular basis. (Tools/Accounts - Mail tab, double click
the desired account, look on the Advanced tab at the bottom of the
page.)
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Sorry Jim I couldn't get the first link to work till now that is just
what I have been looking for .
Thanks

Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Well, cloning (same identity on two machines) is not that difficult.
Did you even read how to do it at the website I posted? There are
only 4 keys involved that need to exported. If you're unwilling to
do it, then I don't know of another way that would work.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
thanks Jim but I am only using the laptop I don't use A desktop
machine as well I have tried using a file to transfer the messages
to but it doesn't work that well.
I have to keep transferring messages back & forth constantly as I
can be connected to the domain for 2hrs in the morning then go on
site then back on the domain
so I have to keep transferring messages both ways 3 or 4 times a
day.
What I need to do is be able to use the same identity when I am
connected to the domain or standalone on site ,most of my messages
are cad drawings or pictures which I need to be able to access all
the time for working on & sending back to clients
Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only way to do that is to make the laptop a "clone" of the
Desktop machine. For how to clone Outlook Express on two
machines, see the info at this link:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm

And, any changes to the Desktop setup, such as adding/deleting
local folders, or adding/deleting a newsgroup subscription will
require a "Re-cloning" of the laptop. It's not too much work but
it can become a PITA trying to keep two machines in sync. Do you
really have to do this? Why not just copy the desired messages to
a Transfer folder for this purpose? If you want to try that, see
the info in the last paragraph at this link for details:
http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
helped.
Thanks.


"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Could anybody please tell me how I can use the same identity in
outlook express when my laptop top is connected to my server or
when I am off site with it , as at the moment I cannot see any
emails I received when connected to the server when I am not in
the office & visa versa

Tiny















  #8  
Old March 23rd 06, 10:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Steve Cochran
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,353
Default Identities

Regardless, with OEX he could point to the files on the one Identity and
import them without having to switch to the other Identity. But he might be
able to do that using File | Import as well.

But he won't be able to receive any messages from one ID unless he logs onto
it and does a send and receive, so like Jim said, let's wait and see if he
returns.

cheers,

steve

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Sorry Steve.
OEX is not needed because in this case there are two Identities on one
computer, not two computers as Jim thinks.
--
Ron Sommer

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
You forgot about OEX (www.oehelp.com/OEX/). You can point to a dbx file
across a network and with a button click import it into another message
store.

steve


"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Ron:

It won't work though. He cannot use the message store on another
machine without physically moving the complete set of DBX files and
importing them, whether by telling Outlook Express to use the copied
files or by using OE File/Import.

How then do you propose that he keep them current with each other?
Either leave a copy on the server and download to both machines or
forget about it since he does not want to spend time copying files. The
info is not going to "fly" with any type of pixie of magic dust between
the machines, just because he at one time copied over the same message
store, i.e., it will work for that one moment that is frozen in time,
but that's it.

Now if you know of some other way it's going to work, share it with all
of us. He can either (1) use the method of leaving copies of all
messages on the server, or (2) use Briefcase or something similar to
transfer info, or (3) use a Transfer.dbx folder and copy Transfer.dbx
between the machines to overwrite the older one on the laptop.

The only reason I suggested cloning is his initial request was to have
the identities be the same.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Jim,
Tiny only has the laptop.
When at work he connects using a domain and uses one Identity.
He uses another Identity when off the domain.
Transferring sent and received messages between the two Identities is
what Tiny is trying to eliminate.
Cloning the Identities will not solve the problem.
This would also mean that if he clones the domain Identity, then he
won't have access when off the domain.
And cloning the off domain Identity, will mean that he may not connect
when in the office.
Have the two Identities use the same message store is what Tiny needs.
Or he needs to have OE set to not make a connection and make the
connection before opening OE.
--
Ron Sommer

"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only thing to remember is that any change to the primary account
will have to be copied/merged into the registry of the cloned machine
to keep everything happy. Other than that, it works quite well. Good
luck.

Also, another trick that works for many is just to set both accounts
to leave a copy of messages on the server (deleting them after 'xx'
days so they don't accumulate) and then just download them to both
machine on a regular basis. (Tools/Accounts - Mail tab, double click
the desired account, look on the Advanced tab at the bottom of the
page.)
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Sorry Jim I couldn't get the first link to work till now that is just
what I have been looking for .
Thanks

Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
Well, cloning (same identity on two machines) is not that difficult.
Did you even read how to do it at the website I posted? There are
only 4 keys involved that need to exported. If you're unwilling to
do it, then I don't know of another way that would work.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



"Tiny" wrote in message
...
thanks Jim but I am only using the laptop I don't use A desktop
machine as well I have tried using a file to transfer the messages
to but it doesn't work that well.
I have to keep transferring messages back & forth constantly as I
can be connected to the domain for 2hrs in the morning then go on
site then back on the domain
so I have to keep transferring messages both ways 3 or 4 times a
day.
What I need to do is be able to use the same identity when I am
connected to the domain or standalone on site ,most of my messages
are cad drawings or pictures which I need to be able to access all
the time for working on & sending back to clients
Tiny
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
The only way to do that is to make the laptop a "clone" of the
Desktop machine. For how to clone Outlook Express on two
machines, see the info at this link:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm

And, any changes to the Desktop setup, such as adding/deleting
local folders, or adding/deleting a newsgroup subscription will
require a "Re-cloning" of the laptop. It's not too much work but
it can become a PITA trying to keep two machines in sync. Do you
really have to do this? Why not just copy the desired messages to
a Transfer folder for this purpose? If you want to try that, see
the info in the last paragraph at this link for details:
http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
helped.
Thanks.


"Tiny" wrote in message
...
Could anybody please tell me how I can use the same identity in
outlook express when my laptop top is connected to my server or
when I am off site with it , as at the moment I cannot see any
emails I received when connected to the server when I am not in
the office & visa versa

Tiny















 




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