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Unless you flag the original post, you won't see the flag until you expand
the thread with that message in it. In: Tools | Options | Read you can Automatically Expand Grouped Messages. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "WhatsUp31415" wrote in message ... "Bruce Hagen" wrote: Only one thread? No reasonable way for me know. I am not about to make a list of all threads visible when "Group Messages" is not set, then crossreference them to all threads visible when "Group Messages" is set (my normal mode). (But if you can suggest a way that I could automate such a crossreference, I would be happy to try. I am curious, too, about how many threads I might not be seeing when "Group Messages" is set.) I can only know about "interesting" threads. I stumbled across this one when someone in another thread complained that the OP had posted two essentially identical inquiries in separate threads. I used Find to locate the other thread, then I set the flag. But when I returned to the NG listing with "Group Messages" set, I did not see anything with the flag set. As an experiment, I unset "Group Messages", and voila!, there was my flagged posting. Of course, the intent of flagging the posting and setting "Group Messages" was to find the responses easily. Fortunately, in this case, they were not difficult to spot even with "Group Messages" unset. But I am still concerned about the situation. What newsgroup? microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions. The "invisible" thread has the subject "Formula", author Jules, date 7/27/09 5:18 PM, with responses posted at 5:42 PM and 7:05 PM. (All times are PDT.) The "duplicate" thread has the subject "How to write a formulae" [sic], author Jules, date 7/27/09 5:38 PM, with responses posted at 5:43 PM and 5:47 PM. I have no problem seeing the "duplicate" thread with and without "Group Messages" set. ----- original message ----- "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... Only one thread? What newsgroup? -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "WhatsUp31415" wrote in message ... There is a thread that I can see (in pieces) when "Group Messages by Conversation" is not set, but I cannot see it when "Group Messages by Conversation" is set. I assume I am doing something wrong. But what is it? |
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I wrote: The "invisible" thread has the subject "Formula", author Jules, date 7/27/09 5:18 PM, with responses posted at 5:42 PM and 7:05 PM. (All times are PDT.) In case I was unclear, the entire thread is "invisible" when "Group Messages" is set -- the two responses as well as the initial posting. Likewise, the entire thread becomes visible when "Group Messages" is unset. I could try removing the NG from the account, then re-subscribing to see if the thread becomes visible when "Group Messages" is set. I could also first try subscribing to the NG to another account to see if the thread is visible there when "Group Messages" is set. But since both actions might change state, I want to wait before trying them in case you or someone else wants me to look at the current state. ----- original messages ----- "WhatsUp31415" wrote in message ... "Bruce Hagen" wrote: Only one thread? No reasonable way for me know. I am not about to make a list of all threads visible when "Group Messages" is not set, then crossreference them to all threads visible when "Group Messages" is set (my normal mode). (But if you can suggest a way that I could automate such a crossreference, I would be happy to try. I am curious, too, about how many threads I might not be seeing when "Group Messages" is set.) I can only know about "interesting" threads. I stumbled across this one when someone in another thread complained that the OP had posted two essentially identical inquiries in separate threads. I used Find to locate the other thread, then I set the flag. But when I returned to the NG listing with "Group Messages" set, I did not see anything with the flag set. As an experiment, I unset "Group Messages", and voila!, there was my flagged posting. Of course, the intent of flagging the posting and setting "Group Messages" was to find the responses easily. Fortunately, in this case, they were not difficult to spot even with "Group Messages" unset. But I am still concerned about the situation. What newsgroup? microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions. The "invisible" thread has the subject "Formula", author Jules, date 7/27/09 5:18 PM, with responses posted at 5:42 PM and 7:05 PM. (All times are PDT.) The "duplicate" thread has the subject "How to write a formulae" [sic], author Jules, date 7/27/09 5:38 PM, with responses posted at 5:43 PM and 5:47 PM. I have no problem seeing the "duplicate" thread with and without "Group Messages" set. ----- original message ----- "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... Only one thread? What newsgroup? -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "WhatsUp31415" wrote in message ... There is a thread that I can see (in pieces) when "Group Messages by Conversation" is not set, but I cannot see it when "Group Messages by Conversation" is set. I assume I am doing something wrong. But what is it? |
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Unless you flag the original post, you won't see the flag until you expand
the thread with that message in it. In: Tools | Options | Read you can Automatically Expand Grouped Messages. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "WhatsUp31415" wrote in message ... "Bruce Hagen" wrote: Only one thread? No reasonable way for me know. I am not about to make a list of all threads visible when "Group Messages" is not set, then crossreference them to all threads visible when "Group Messages" is set (my normal mode). (But if you can suggest a way that I could automate such a crossreference, I would be happy to try. I am curious, too, about how many threads I might not be seeing when "Group Messages" is set.) I can only know about "interesting" threads. I stumbled across this one when someone in another thread complained that the OP had posted two essentially identical inquiries in separate threads. I used Find to locate the other thread, then I set the flag. But when I returned to the NG listing with "Group Messages" set, I did not see anything with the flag set. As an experiment, I unset "Group Messages", and voila!, there was my flagged posting. Of course, the intent of flagging the posting and setting "Group Messages" was to find the responses easily. Fortunately, in this case, they were not difficult to spot even with "Group Messages" unset. But I am still concerned about the situation. What newsgroup? microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions. The "invisible" thread has the subject "Formula", author Jules, date 7/27/09 5:18 PM, with responses posted at 5:42 PM and 7:05 PM. (All times are PDT.) The "duplicate" thread has the subject "How to write a formulae" [sic], author Jules, date 7/27/09 5:38 PM, with responses posted at 5:43 PM and 5:47 PM. I have no problem seeing the "duplicate" thread with and without "Group Messages" set. ----- original message ----- "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... Only one thread? What newsgroup? -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "WhatsUp31415" wrote in message ... There is a thread that I can see (in pieces) when "Group Messages by Conversation" is not set, but I cannot see it when "Group Messages by Conversation" is set. I assume I am doing something wrong. But what is it? |
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"Bruce Hagen" wrote:
Only one thread? No reasonable way for me know. I am not about to make a list of all threads visible when "Group Messages" is not set, then crossreference them to all threads visible when "Group Messages" is set (my normal mode). (But if you can suggest a way that I could automate such a crossreference, I would be happy to try. I am curious, too, about how many threads I might not be seeing when "Group Messages" is set.) I can only know about "interesting" threads. I stumbled across this one when someone in another thread complained that the OP had posted two essentially identical inquiries in separate threads. I used Find to locate the other thread, then I set the flag. But when I returned to the NG listing with "Group Messages" set, I did not see anything with the flag set. As an experiment, I unset "Group Messages", and voila!, there was my flagged posting. Of course, the intent of flagging the posting and setting "Group Messages" was to find the responses easily. Fortunately, in this case, they were not difficult to spot even with "Group Messages" unset. But I am still concerned about the situation. What newsgroup? microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions. The "invisible" thread has the subject "Formula", author Jules, date 7/27/09 5:18 PM, with responses posted at 5:42 PM and 7:05 PM. (All times are PDT.) The "duplicate" thread has the subject "How to write a formulae" [sic], author Jules, date 7/27/09 5:38 PM, with responses posted at 5:43 PM and 5:47 PM. I have no problem seeing the "duplicate" thread with and without "Group Messages" set. ----- original message ----- "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... Only one thread? What newsgroup? -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "WhatsUp31415" wrote in message ... There is a thread that I can see (in pieces) when "Group Messages by Conversation" is not set, but I cannot see it when "Group Messages by Conversation" is set. I assume I am doing something wrong. But what is it? |
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Make sure View | Current View | "Show all messages" is checked and "Show
replies to my messages" is NOT checked. WhatsUp31415 wrote: There is a thread that I can see (in pieces) when "Group Messages by Conversation" is not set, but I cannot see it when "Group Messages by Conversation" is set. I assume I am doing something wrong. But what is it? |
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
Make sure View | Current View | "Show all messages" is checked and "Show replies to my messages" is NOT checked. Yes to both. Also, Customize Current View is set to "For all messages, Show the message". ----- original message ----- "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... Make sure View | Current View | "Show all messages" is checked and "Show replies to my messages" is NOT checked. WhatsUp31415 wrote: There is a thread that I can see (in pieces) when "Group Messages by Conversation" is not set, but I cannot see it when "Group Messages by Conversation" is set. I assume I am doing something wrong. But what is it? |
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
Make sure View | Current View | "Show all messages" is checked and "Show replies to my messages" is NOT checked. Yes to both. Also, Customize Current View is set to "For all messages, Show the message". ----- original message ----- "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... Make sure View | Current View | "Show all messages" is checked and "Show replies to my messages" is NOT checked. WhatsUp31415 wrote: There is a thread that I can see (in pieces) when "Group Messages by Conversation" is not set, but I cannot see it when "Group Messages by Conversation" is set. I assume I am doing something wrong. But what is it? |
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"WhatsUp31415" wrote in message
There is a thread that I can see (in pieces) when "Group Messages by Conversation" is not set, but I cannot see it when "Group Messages by Conversation" is set. I assume I am doing something wrong. But what is it? When messages are Grouped by Conversation, then ALL messages in that conversation are show under only one message Subject. That will be the earliest message still on the server. Then, under that, if you click the + to the left, are all the unred responses to the one showing on top. Since it's a group, all the posts in the group are represented by only the one earliest one, with the others rolled up under it. But if messages are not grouped by conversation, then every message is shown and there is no grouping of messages by the Subject Line to show which ones are responses or later then the preceding one. You see every message available to you all at the same time. Grouped: message 1 (shows in pane) Click the + on the left and the following message 2 message 3 message 4 and so on will roll down. 4 responds to 3, 3 to 2, 2 to 1, or whomever they decide they wish to respond to. Ungrouped: Message 10 Message 4 Message 1 Message 8 Message 3 Message 6 Message 2 and so on. Here you can't really tell which messages are part of one thread or stand on their own or what. That help any? Unfortunately, setting the flag on a message down inside a group, doesn't flag earlier posts in that thred, nor anything earlier than the message flagged by the user; only older message get the flag. I think it's dumb too, since flagging every message would make the entire group easier to find. I usually do that by using Edit; Find and looking for the subject. HTH, Twayne` |
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![]() "Twayne" wrote in message ... "WhatsUp31415" wrote in message There is a thread that I can see (in pieces) when "Group Messages by Conversation" is not set, but I cannot see it when "Group Messages by Conversation" is set. I assume I am doing something wrong. But what is it? When messages are Grouped by Conversation, then ALL messages in that conversation are show under only one message Subject. That will be the earliest message still on the server. Then, under that, if you click the + to the left, are all the unred responses to the one showing on top. Since it's a group, all the posts in the group are represented by only the one earliest one, with the others rolled up under it. But if messages are not grouped by conversation, then every message is shown and there is no grouping of messages by the Subject Line to show which ones are responses or later then the preceding one. You see every message available to you all at the same time. Grouped: message 1 (shows in pane) Click the + on the left and the following message 2 message 3 message 4 and so on will roll down. 4 responds to 3, 3 to 2, 2 to 1, or whomever they decide they wish to respond to. Ungrouped: Message 10 Message 4 Message 1 Message 8 Message 3 Message 6 Message 2 and so on. Here you can't really tell which messages are part of one thread or stand on their own or what. That help any? Unfortunately, setting the flag on a message down inside a group, doesn't flag earlier posts in that thred, nor anything earlier than the message flagged by the user; only older message get the flag. I think it's dumb too, since flagging every message would make the entire group easier to find. I usually do that by using Edit; Find and looking for the subject. HTH, Twayne` What messages are seen, depends on whether Hide unread messages is selected. Lets assume that Show all messages is selected. 'earliest message still on the server' should be 'earliest message still on the your computer'. Not all of the messages may have been downloaded or some may have been deleted. -- Ron Sommer |
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"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
"Twayne" wrote in message ... "WhatsUp31415" wrote in message There is a thread that I can see (in pieces) when "Group Messages by Conversation" is not set, but I cannot see it when "Group Messages by Conversation" is set. I assume I am doing something wrong. But what is it? When messages are Grouped by Conversation, then ALL messages in that conversation are show under only one message Subject. That will be the earliest message still on the server. Then, under that, if you click the + to the left, are all the unred responses to the one showing on top. Since it's a group, all the posts in the group are represented by only the one earliest one, with the others rolled up under it. But if messages are not grouped by conversation, then every message is shown and there is no grouping of messages by the Subject Line to show which ones are responses or later then the preceding one. You see every message available to you all at the same time. Grouped: message 1 (shows in pane) Click the + on the left and the following message 2 message 3 message 4 and so on will roll down. 4 responds to 3, 3 to 2, 2 to 1, or whomever they decide they wish to respond to. Ungrouped: Message 10 Message 4 Message 1 Message 8 Message 3 Message 6 Message 2 and so on. Here you can't really tell which messages are part of one thread or stand on their own or what. That help any? Unfortunately, setting the flag on a message down inside a group, doesn't flag earlier posts in that thred, nor anything earlier than the message flagged by the user; only older message get the flag. I think it's dumb too, since flagging every message would make the entire group easier to find. I usually do that by using Edit; Find and looking for the subject. HTH, Twayne` What messages are seen, depends on whether Hide unread messages is selected. Lets assume that Show all messages is selected. 'earliest message still on the server' should be 'earliest message still on the your computer'. Not all of the messages may have been downloaded or some may have been deleted. True. |
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