We've gotten MS emails saying that on Sep 1 Outlook Express must be
reconfigured for POP3 only in order to get Hotmail web mail. I've done this
already and it works. HOWEVER, I have 2 Hotmail web accounts and when I
receive mail for both separate accounts, it puts BOTH account mail in one
inbox location (the Local Folders location). Dumb. Is there ANY way to
separate my two Hotmail web accounts so they can be viewed from their own
locations?

Thanks.

EW

Tools, Message rules, Mail, New
Select Where the mail is from 'specified' account, Move to 'specified'
folder and Stop processing more rules.
Click on 'specified' account, select an account.
Click on 'specified' folder, click New folder, create your folder.....
--
Ron Sommer
MVP-Mail

"Lonestar" wrote in message
...
We've gotten MS emails saying that on Sep 1 Outlook Express must be
reconfigured for POP3 only in order to get Hotmail web mail. I've done
this
already and it works. HOWEVER, I have 2 Hotmail web accounts and when I
receive mail for both separate accounts, it puts BOTH account mail in one
inbox location (the Local Folders location). Dumb. Is there ANY way to
separate my two Hotmail web accounts so they can be viewed from their own
locations?

Thanks.

EW

Ron, thanks a bunch! Much appreciated.

This solves a whole lot of potential problems....

EW

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Tools, Message rules, Mail, New
Select Where the mail is from 'specified' account, Move to 'specified'
folder and Stop processing more rules.
Click on 'specified' account, select an account.
Click on 'specified' folder, click New folder, create your folder.....
--
Ron Sommer
MVP-Mail

Me again, Ron........

I've done what you recommended (see below). It works!

Now for a final question. When I send/receive the mail to the new POP3
Hotmail accounts in OE6, it downloads the WHOLE message, attachments and
all, unlike my other non-POP3 Outlook Express Hotmail messages (invalid
after 1 Sep) which only download the header info (To, From, Subject
line...).

Is there any way to get only the header info w/o downloading the entire
contents? Thanks again.

EW

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Tools, Message rules, Mail, New
Select Where the mail is from 'specified' account, Move to 'specified'
folder and Stop processing more rules.
Click on 'specified' account, select an account.
Click on 'specified' folder, click New folder, create your folder.....
--
Ron Sommer
MVP-Mail

With pop email, it is all or none. You do not download or you download the
whole message.
--
Ron Sommer
MVP-Mail

"Lonestar" wrote in message
...
Me again, Ron........

I've done what you recommended (see below). It works!

Now for a final question. When I send/receive the mail to the new POP3
Hotmail accounts in OE6, it downloads the WHOLE message, attachments and
all, unlike my other non-POP3 Outlook Express Hotmail messages (invalid
after 1 Sep) which only download the header info (To, From, Subject
line...).

Is there any way to get only the header info w/o downloading the entire
contents? Thanks again.

EW

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Tools, Message rules, Mail, New
Select Where the mail is from 'specified' account, Move to 'specified'
folder and Stop processing more rules.
Click on 'specified' account, select an account.
Click on 'specified' folder, click New folder, create your folder.....
--
Ron Sommer
MVP-Mail

No, nor are those previous Hotmail-specific folders
(http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif)
available in OE now.

Mo
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a7d2d5b76b171a


Lonestar wrote:
Me again, Ron........

I've done what you recommended (see below). It works!

Now for a final question. When I send/receive the mail to the new POP3
Hotmail accounts in OE6, it downloads the WHOLE message, attachments and
all, unlike my other non-POP3 Outlook Express Hotmail messages (invalid
after 1 Sep) which only download the header info (To, From, Subject
line...).

Is there any way to get only the header info w/o downloading the entire
contents? Thanks again.

EW

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Tools, Message rules, Mail, New
Select Where the mail is from 'specified' account, Move to 'specified'
folder and Stop processing more rules.
Click on 'specified' account, select an account.
Click on 'specified' folder, click New folder, create your folder.....
--
Ron Sommer
MVP-Mail

On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:23:17 -0500, Lonestar wrote:

Now for a final question. When I send/receive the mail to the new POP3
Hotmail accounts in OE6, it downloads the WHOLE message, attachments and
all, unlike my other non-POP3 Outlook Express Hotmail messages (invalid
after 1 Sep) which only download the header info (To, From, Subject
line...).

Is there any way to get only the header info w/o downloading the entire
contents? Thanks again.

MS Outlook Express does not download headers only from POP3 accounts. There
are clients capable of downloading just the POP3 headers, but you would have
to learn how to use the client all over again; they are not similar to MSOE.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:23:17 -0500, Lonestar wrote:

MS Outlook Express does not download headers only from POP3 accounts.
There
are clients capable of downloading just the POP3 headers, but you would
have
to learn how to use the client all over again; they are not similar to
MSOE.


Mr. Miller, I know now that using OE with the "new" POP3-only service will
not download just headers. But I was hoping. I know that my "old" service
with OE would get my legacy Hotmail email with headers only. Seems like a
step backwards as of Sep 1!

In any case, I installed Thunderbird email client and it does everything! I
set it up to get multiple Hotmail POP-3 accounts and it (optionally) to
downloads headers only -- not the entire message contents -- in their own
folders even! It's great. Sending and receiving mail is flawless. Such a
deal.

Anyway, thanks for your comments.

EW

On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:21:01 -0500, ELW wrote:

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:23:17 -0500, Lonestar wrote:

MS Outlook Express does not download headers only from POP3 accounts.
There are clients capable of downloading just the POP3 headers, but you
would have to learn how to use the client all over again; they are not
similar to MSOE.

Mr. Miller, I know now that using OE with the "new" POP3-only service will
not download just headers. But I was hoping. I know that my "old" service
with OE would get my legacy Hotmail email with headers only. Seems like a
step backwards as of Sep 1!

Not really. A step backwards. MS Outlook Express uses an older, proprietary
Microsoft protocol, called, "WebDAV" to access accounts which use the server
side of that protocol. The older protocol is actually less secure, and has
been replace with a new protocol called, "DeltaSync". Alas, MS Outlook
Express, itself, is as obsolete as the protocol it uses, and is no longer
supported by Microsoft, except for security patches. And support for that
will end in 2010 (for Windows XP with SP2), or 2014 (for Windows XP with
SP3). In order to keep up with Microsoft's security upgrades to their
protocols will require upgrading both the OS (Windows Vista, Windwows 7),
and the client (Windows Live Mail).

POP3, itself, is an older, and mature protocol. Another open standard
protocol, which is similar to Microsoft's proprietary HTTPMail (formerly
with WebDAV, now deprecated by DeltaSync), is IMAP4. Alas, Microsoft is not
going to provide IMAP support while they have their own proprietary protocol
in play. Just chalk it up to the "Microsoft Way" (or, more correctly,
Microsoft's attempt to "own" the Internet).

In any case, I installed Thunderbird email client and it does everything! I
set it up to get multiple Hotmail POP-3 accounts and it (optionally) to
downloads headers only -- not the entire message contents -- in their own
folders even! It's great. Sending and receiving mail is flawless. Such a
deal.

Anyway, thanks for your comments.

I use Thunderbird on occasion, but have not explored whether it was capable
of downloading headers only on POP3 accounts. The client I use which
downloads headers, Pegasus Mail, is sufficiently different from MSOE to
present a fairly steep learning curve in transition.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

ELW wrote:


In any case, I installed Thunderbird email client and it does everything! I
set it up to get multiple Hotmail POP-3 accounts and it (optionally) to
downloads headers only -- not the entire message contents -- in their own
folders even! It's great. Sending and receiving mail is flawless. Such a
deal.





You could have tried Windows Live Mail as well.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=7A50F43C-B007-4904-B9C5-7B47F3007346&displaylang=en#Requirements

Although I still use old version of Mozilla TB!!