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Ron Sommer wrote: There is a problem with your advice on the Hotmail Community Forum: "If you're already accessing your Hotmail account in Windows Live Mail, you don't need to do anything." That statement is true only if you add a Hotmail account to WLM. If you import the Hotmail settings from OE either by manually importing an iaf file or having WLM import the settings during the WLM install, the WebDav server url will be imported. Tools, Accounts, highlight, Properties, Server tab, DeltaSync must be listed as the server url. If you setup Hotmail in WLM using http, the server will be http://mail.services.live.com/DeltaS....0.0/sync.aspx . This will continue to work after Sept 1. If you imported from Outlook Express, the server was http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp . That will have to been changed to the DeltaSync server. I am not registered on the Hotmail Community Forum site. "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... [crosspost to OE General & OE6 newsgroups] This message is a follow-up to my post of 02 June 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a7d2d5b76b171a Microsoft is changing the way Outlook Express users access Hotmail accounts. This change will require all Hotmail-in-OE users to take action /before/ Tuesday, 01 September 2009. If you use Outlook Express to access a Hotmail or MSN account, you will need to set up a NEW MAIL ACCOUNT (OE: Tools | Accounts | Add | Mail) per the instructions he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx = NOTE: In Step #11 on the above page, select Port 587 in the Outgoing mail (SMTP) box, not Port 25! = After you've gotten the new (POP3) account set-up and working properly or after 01 September, you should REMOVE (delete) your old (WebDAV) Hotmail account he Tools | Accounts | Mail. = When you access your Hotmail account via POP3, only the messages in your inbox on the Hotmail web-page (http://mail.live.com) will download into OE. Furthermore, these messages will download into OE's default Inbox and the Hotmail-specific set of folders you're used to (cf. http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif) will no longer be available. Have more questions? See the FAQ page he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx Need more help? Visit the Hotmail Community Forum: http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx Why is this happening? Outlook Express [uses] a legacy communications method (known as the WebDAV protocol) to access Hotmail. Because the WebDAV protocol is not optimally suited for programs to access large inboxes such as Hotmail, new alternatives have been built. Last year, user-feedback led MS to postpone plans to retire the WebDAV protocol until more options were available. Now that these options (including POP3 access) are available, MS is ready to retire the WebDAV protocol. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com |
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Ron...to supplement your comments...any of the following may be in use in OE or migrated/imported from OE into WLM
WebDAV Servers to be retired in Sept 2009 http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata (used with Msn.com accounts) http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp (used with Hotmail.com accounts0 http://oe.hotmail.com/secure/hmdata (old server, very rare pre 2002 account creation , used with Hotmail.com accounts) -- ...winston ms-mvp mail "Ron Sommer" wrote in message ... If you imported from Outlook Express, the server was http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp . That will have to been changed to the DeltaSync server. |
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I am new to all this, pls be patient if I don't word this properly. I
couldn't see how to contact hotmail so I found this page. I followed the instr from the final notice, didn't see your advise here about not using 25, so I don't know if I can change it to what you typed. Also, I see, as you worded below, that it took ALL of my messages and put them in the local folder and not in my hotmail folder, which you say can no longer be available. I have two questions about that please: (and I hope I can find my way back here to find your reply) 1) all of my emails (994) went into the local folder, which is a different provider not hotmail. They all went in as unread, and how do I know which is which since two different providers? 2) I also use OE at work. I sure don't want my personal emails going into my work email folder. Do you know how I can/if I can set it up so hotmail doesn't go into my local folder??? thanks "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: [crosspost to OE General & OE6 newsgroups] This message is a follow-up to my post of 02 June 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a7d2d5b76b171a Microsoft is changing the way Outlook Express users access Hotmail accounts. This change will require all Hotmail-in-OE users to take action /before/ Tuesday, 01 September 2009. If you use Outlook Express to access a Hotmail or MSN account, you will need to set up a NEW MAIL ACCOUNT (OE: Tools | Accounts | Add | Mail) per the instructions he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx = NOTE: In Step #11 on the above page, select Port 587 in the Outgoing mail (SMTP) box, not Port 25! = After you've gotten the new (POP3) account set-up and working properly or after 01 September, you should REMOVE (delete) your old (WebDAV) Hotmail account he Tools | Accounts | Mail. = When you access your Hotmail account via POP3, only the messages in your inbox on the Hotmail web-page (http://mail.live.com) will download into OE. Furthermore, these messages will download into OE's default Inbox and the Hotmail-specific set of folders you're used to (cf. http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif) will no longer be available. Have more questions? See the FAQ page he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx Need more help? Visit the Hotmail Community Forum: http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx Why is this happening? Outlook Express [uses] a legacy communications method (known as the WebDAV protocol) to access Hotmail. Because the WebDAV protocol is not optimally suited for programs to access large inboxes such as Hotmail, new alternatives have been built. Last year, user-feedback led MS to postpone plans to retire the WebDAV protocol until more options were available. Now that these options (including POP3 access) are available, MS is ready to retire the WebDAV protocol. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com |
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By default, all incoming messages will download into OE's default Inbox
folder. You can create & use a Message Rule to filter incoming Hotmail messages to another folder you've created for this purpose. Such a rule would read, "Where the TO line contains , Move it to [name of folder], and Stop processing more rules." Message Rules Tips http://www.insideoe.com/tips/rules.htm Why doesn't my rule work? http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#rules Once you've (a) created the new folder and then (b) created the rule, you can apply the rule manually to your Inbox folder to move the Hotmail messages to the new folder. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com Gloria wrote: I am new to all this, pls be patient if I don't word this properly. I couldn't see how to contact hotmail so I found this page. I followed the instr from the final notice, didn't see your advise here about not using 25, so I don't know if I can change it to what you typed. Also, I see, as you worded below, that it took ALL of my messages and put them in the local folder and not in my hotmail folder, which you say can no longer be available. I have two questions about that please: (and I hope I can find my way back here to find your reply) 1) all of my emails (994) went into the local folder, which is a different provider not hotmail. They all went in as unread, and how do I know which is which since two different providers? 2) I also use OE at work. I sure don't want my personal emails going into my work email folder. Do you know how I can/if I can set it up so hotmail doesn't go into my local folder??? thanks "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: [crosspost to OE General & OE6 newsgroups] This message is a follow-up to my post of 02 June 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a7d2d5b76b171a Microsoft is changing the way Outlook Express users access Hotmail accounts. This change will require all Hotmail-in-OE users to take action /before/ Tuesday, 01 September 2009. If you use Outlook Express to access a Hotmail or MSN account, you will need to set up a NEW MAIL ACCOUNT (OE: Tools | Accounts | Add | Mail) per the instructions he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx = NOTE: In Step #11 on the above page, select Port 587 in the Outgoing mail (SMTP) box, not Port 25! = After you've gotten the new (POP3) account set-up and working properly or after 01 September, you should REMOVE (delete) your old (WebDAV) Hotmail account he Tools | Accounts | Mail. = When you access your Hotmail account via POP3, only the messages in your inbox on the Hotmail web-page (http://mail.live.com) will download into OE. Furthermore, these messages will download into OE's default Inbox and the Hotmail-specific set of folders you're used to (cf. http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif) will no longer be available. Have more questions? See the FAQ page he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx Need more help? Visit the Hotmail Community Forum: http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx Why is this happening? Outlook Express [uses] a legacy communications method (known as the WebDAV protocol) to access Hotmail. Because the WebDAV protocol is not optimally suited for programs to access large inboxes such as Hotmail, new alternatives have been built. Last year, user-feedback led MS to postpone plans to retire the WebDAV protocol until more options were available. Now that these options (including POP3 access) are available, MS is ready to retire the WebDAV protocol. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com |
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For work, I would suggest that you setup Hotmail in a new Identity.
A new Identity will let Hotmail use Inbox, Sent Items, Drafts, Deleted Items. If you add Hotmail to the current Identity, you can create a message rule to keep downloaded message out of the Inbox. Tools, Message Rules, New, Mail, Where the message if form 'specific' account, Move to 'specific' folder and Stop processing more rules. Click on 'specific' account, select Hotmail. Click on 'specific' folder, New folder, create a folder. Sent Items, Drafts, and Deleted Items will be shared with your work account. Be sure to check Leave a copy on the server, so the Hotmail emails will be available for your home computer. -- Ron Sommer MVP-Mail "Gloria" wrote in message ... I am new to all this, pls be patient if I don't word this properly. I couldn't see how to contact hotmail so I found this page. I followed the instr from the final notice, didn't see your advise here about not using 25, so I don't know if I can change it to what you typed. Also, I see, as you worded below, that it took ALL of my messages and put them in the local folder and not in my hotmail folder, which you say can no longer be available. I have two questions about that please: (and I hope I can find my way back here to find your reply) 1) all of my emails (994) went into the local folder, which is a different provider not hotmail. They all went in as unread, and how do I know which is which since two different providers? 2) I also use OE at work. I sure don't want my personal emails going into my work email folder. Do you know how I can/if I can set it up so hotmail doesn't go into my local folder??? thanks "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: [crosspost to OE General & OE6 newsgroups] This message is a follow-up to my post of 02 June 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a7d2d5b76b171a Microsoft is changing the way Outlook Express users access Hotmail accounts. This change will require all Hotmail-in-OE users to take action /before/ Tuesday, 01 September 2009. If you use Outlook Express to access a Hotmail or MSN account, you will need to set up a NEW MAIL ACCOUNT (OE: Tools | Accounts | Add | Mail) per the instructions he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx = NOTE: In Step #11 on the above page, select Port 587 in the Outgoing mail (SMTP) box, not Port 25! = After you've gotten the new (POP3) account set-up and working properly or after 01 September, you should REMOVE (delete) your old (WebDAV) Hotmail account he Tools | Accounts | Mail. = When you access your Hotmail account via POP3, only the messages in your inbox on the Hotmail web-page (http://mail.live.com) will download into OE. Furthermore, these messages will download into OE's default Inbox and the Hotmail-specific set of folders you're used to (cf. http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif) will no longer be available. Have more questions? See the FAQ page he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx Need more help? Visit the Hotmail Community Forum: http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx Why is this happening? Outlook Express [uses] a legacy communications method (known as the WebDAV protocol) to access Hotmail. Because the WebDAV protocol is not optimally suited for programs to access large inboxes such as Hotmail, new alternatives have been built. Last year, user-feedback led MS to postpone plans to retire the WebDAV protocol until more options were available. Now that these options (including POP3 access) are available, MS is ready to retire the WebDAV protocol. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com |
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By default, all incoming messages will download into OE's default Inbox
folder. You can create & use a Message Rule to filter incoming Hotmail messages to another folder you've created for this purpose. Such a rule would read, "Where the TO line contains , Move it to [name of folder], and Stop processing more rules." Message Rules Tips http://www.insideoe.com/tips/rules.htm Why doesn't my rule work? http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#rules Once you've (a) created the new folder and then (b) created the rule, you can apply the rule manually to your Inbox folder to move the Hotmail messages to the new folder. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com Gloria wrote: I am new to all this, pls be patient if I don't word this properly. I couldn't see how to contact hotmail so I found this page. I followed the instr from the final notice, didn't see your advise here about not using 25, so I don't know if I can change it to what you typed. Also, I see, as you worded below, that it took ALL of my messages and put them in the local folder and not in my hotmail folder, which you say can no longer be available. I have two questions about that please: (and I hope I can find my way back here to find your reply) 1) all of my emails (994) went into the local folder, which is a different provider not hotmail. They all went in as unread, and how do I know which is which since two different providers? 2) I also use OE at work. I sure don't want my personal emails going into my work email folder. Do you know how I can/if I can set it up so hotmail doesn't go into my local folder??? thanks "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: [crosspost to OE General & OE6 newsgroups] This message is a follow-up to my post of 02 June 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a7d2d5b76b171a Microsoft is changing the way Outlook Express users access Hotmail accounts. This change will require all Hotmail-in-OE users to take action /before/ Tuesday, 01 September 2009. If you use Outlook Express to access a Hotmail or MSN account, you will need to set up a NEW MAIL ACCOUNT (OE: Tools | Accounts | Add | Mail) per the instructions he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx = NOTE: In Step #11 on the above page, select Port 587 in the Outgoing mail (SMTP) box, not Port 25! = After you've gotten the new (POP3) account set-up and working properly or after 01 September, you should REMOVE (delete) your old (WebDAV) Hotmail account he Tools | Accounts | Mail. = When you access your Hotmail account via POP3, only the messages in your inbox on the Hotmail web-page (http://mail.live.com) will download into OE. Furthermore, these messages will download into OE's default Inbox and the Hotmail-specific set of folders you're used to (cf. http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif) will no longer be available. Have more questions? See the FAQ page he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx Need more help? Visit the Hotmail Community Forum: http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx Why is this happening? Outlook Express [uses] a legacy communications method (known as the WebDAV protocol) to access Hotmail. Because the WebDAV protocol is not optimally suited for programs to access large inboxes such as Hotmail, new alternatives have been built. Last year, user-feedback led MS to postpone plans to retire the WebDAV protocol until more options were available. Now that these options (including POP3 access) are available, MS is ready to retire the WebDAV protocol. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com |
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For work, I would suggest that you setup Hotmail in a new Identity.
A new Identity will let Hotmail use Inbox, Sent Items, Drafts, Deleted Items. If you add Hotmail to the current Identity, you can create a message rule to keep downloaded message out of the Inbox. Tools, Message Rules, New, Mail, Where the message if form 'specific' account, Move to 'specific' folder and Stop processing more rules. Click on 'specific' account, select Hotmail. Click on 'specific' folder, New folder, create a folder. Sent Items, Drafts, and Deleted Items will be shared with your work account. Be sure to check Leave a copy on the server, so the Hotmail emails will be available for your home computer. -- Ron Sommer MVP-Mail "Gloria" wrote in message ... I am new to all this, pls be patient if I don't word this properly. I couldn't see how to contact hotmail so I found this page. I followed the instr from the final notice, didn't see your advise here about not using 25, so I don't know if I can change it to what you typed. Also, I see, as you worded below, that it took ALL of my messages and put them in the local folder and not in my hotmail folder, which you say can no longer be available. I have two questions about that please: (and I hope I can find my way back here to find your reply) 1) all of my emails (994) went into the local folder, which is a different provider not hotmail. They all went in as unread, and how do I know which is which since two different providers? 2) I also use OE at work. I sure don't want my personal emails going into my work email folder. Do you know how I can/if I can set it up so hotmail doesn't go into my local folder??? thanks "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: [crosspost to OE General & OE6 newsgroups] This message is a follow-up to my post of 02 June 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a7d2d5b76b171a Microsoft is changing the way Outlook Express users access Hotmail accounts. This change will require all Hotmail-in-OE users to take action /before/ Tuesday, 01 September 2009. If you use Outlook Express to access a Hotmail or MSN account, you will need to set up a NEW MAIL ACCOUNT (OE: Tools | Accounts | Add | Mail) per the instructions he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx = NOTE: In Step #11 on the above page, select Port 587 in the Outgoing mail (SMTP) box, not Port 25! = After you've gotten the new (POP3) account set-up and working properly or after 01 September, you should REMOVE (delete) your old (WebDAV) Hotmail account he Tools | Accounts | Mail. = When you access your Hotmail account via POP3, only the messages in your inbox on the Hotmail web-page (http://mail.live.com) will download into OE. Furthermore, these messages will download into OE's default Inbox and the Hotmail-specific set of folders you're used to (cf. http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif) will no longer be available. Have more questions? See the FAQ page he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx Need more help? Visit the Hotmail Community Forum: http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx Why is this happening? Outlook Express [uses] a legacy communications method (known as the WebDAV protocol) to access Hotmail. Because the WebDAV protocol is not optimally suited for programs to access large inboxes such as Hotmail, new alternatives have been built. Last year, user-feedback led MS to postpone plans to retire the WebDAV protocol until more options were available. Now that these options (including POP3 access) are available, MS is ready to retire the WebDAV protocol. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com |
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There is a problem with your advice on the Hotmail Community Forum: "If
you're already accessing your Hotmail account in Windows Live Mail, you don't need to do anything." That statement is true only if you add a Hotmail account to WLM. If you import the Hotmail settings from OE either by manually importing an iaf file or having WLM import the settings during the WLM install, the WebDav server url will be imported. Tools, Accounts, highlight, Properties, Server tab, DeltaSync must be listed as the server url. If you setup Hotmail in WLM using http, the server will be http://mail.services.live.com/DeltaS....0.0/sync.aspx . This will continue to work after Sept 1. If you imported from Outlook Express, the server was http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp . That will have to been changed to the DeltaSync server. I am not registered on the Hotmail Community Forum site. -- Ron Sommer MVP-Mail "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... [crosspost to OE General & OE6 newsgroups] This message is a follow-up to my post of 02 June 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a7d2d5b76b171a Microsoft is changing the way Outlook Express users access Hotmail accounts. This change will require all Hotmail-in-OE users to take action /before/ Tuesday, 01 September 2009. If you use Outlook Express to access a Hotmail or MSN account, you will need to set up a NEW MAIL ACCOUNT (OE: Tools | Accounts | Add | Mail) per the instructions he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx = NOTE: In Step #11 on the above page, select Port 587 in the Outgoing mail (SMTP) box, not Port 25! = After you've gotten the new (POP3) account set-up and working properly or after 01 September, you should REMOVE (delete) your old (WebDAV) Hotmail account he Tools | Accounts | Mail. = When you access your Hotmail account via POP3, only the messages in your inbox on the Hotmail web-page (http://mail.live.com) will download into OE. Furthermore, these messages will download into OE's default Inbox and the Hotmail-specific set of folders you're used to (cf. http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif) will no longer be available. Have more questions? See the FAQ page he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx Need more help? Visit the Hotmail Community Forum: http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx Why is this happening? Outlook Express [uses] a legacy communications method (known as the WebDAV protocol) to access Hotmail. Because the WebDAV protocol is not optimally suited for programs to access large inboxes such as Hotmail, new alternatives have been built. Last year, user-feedback led MS to postpone plans to retire the WebDAV protocol until more options were available. Now that these options (including POP3 access) are available, MS is ready to retire the WebDAV protocol. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com |
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I am new to all this, pls be patient if I don't word this properly. I
couldn't see how to contact hotmail so I found this page. I followed the instr from the final notice, didn't see your advise here about not using 25, so I don't know if I can change it to what you typed. Also, I see, as you worded below, that it took ALL of my messages and put them in the local folder and not in my hotmail folder, which you say can no longer be available. I have two questions about that please: (and I hope I can find my way back here to find your reply) 1) all of my emails (994) went into the local folder, which is a different provider not hotmail. They all went in as unread, and how do I know which is which since two different providers? 2) I also use OE at work. I sure don't want my personal emails going into my work email folder. Do you know how I can/if I can set it up so hotmail doesn't go into my local folder??? thanks "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: [crosspost to OE General & OE6 newsgroups] This message is a follow-up to my post of 02 June 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a7d2d5b76b171a Microsoft is changing the way Outlook Express users access Hotmail accounts. This change will require all Hotmail-in-OE users to take action /before/ Tuesday, 01 September 2009. If you use Outlook Express to access a Hotmail or MSN account, you will need to set up a NEW MAIL ACCOUNT (OE: Tools | Accounts | Add | Mail) per the instructions he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx = NOTE: In Step #11 on the above page, select Port 587 in the Outgoing mail (SMTP) box, not Port 25! = After you've gotten the new (POP3) account set-up and working properly or after 01 September, you should REMOVE (delete) your old (WebDAV) Hotmail account he Tools | Accounts | Mail. = When you access your Hotmail account via POP3, only the messages in your inbox on the Hotmail web-page (http://mail.live.com) will download into OE. Furthermore, these messages will download into OE's default Inbox and the Hotmail-specific set of folders you're used to (cf. http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif) will no longer be available. Have more questions? See the FAQ page he http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx Need more help? Visit the Hotmail Community Forum: http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx Why is this happening? Outlook Express [uses] a legacy communications method (known as the WebDAV protocol) to access Hotmail. Because the WebDAV protocol is not optimally suited for programs to access large inboxes such as Hotmail, new alternatives have been built. Last year, user-feedback led MS to postpone plans to retire the WebDAV protocol until more options were available. Now that these options (including POP3 access) are available, MS is ready to retire the WebDAV protocol. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com |
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